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Barcelona Hash Church Part II: Rosin Revolution and Museum Conversations

Barcelona Hash Church Part II: Hash Church, streamed live on March 22, 2015. With Bubbleman.

March 22, 2015 · 56 minutes · 199 transcript paragraphs

Barcelona Hash Church Part II: Rosin Revolution and Museum Conversations, the full livestream on Bubbleman’s World

What this episode covers

What this episode covers, from the HashBible.org notes: Bubbleman and guests discuss rosin pressing techniques, the quality of different hash grades, and the impact of terpenes on the final product. They also touch on the importance of proper curing and the potential for industrial-scale production of rosin.

Chapters

Chapters in this episode, 10 of them, each with the minute it starts. Tap a time to play the video from there.

  1. Technical Discussion on Rosin PressingBubbleman and guests discuss the differences between using parchment and Teflon for rosin pressing, the importance of temperature and pressure, and the quality of the final product.
  2. Hash Quality and GradingDiscussion on the quality of different hash grades and the impact of starting material on the final rosin product.
  3. Curing and ProductionDiscussion on the importance of proper curing and the potential for industrial-scale production of rosin.
  4. Event and Community UpdatesBubbleman discusses the museum and upcoming events, including the Secret Cup and other competitions.
  5. Chat and DabbingCasual chat and dabbing session with guests.
  6. Introduction and Technical IssuesBubbleman introduces the episode and discusses technical issues with the stream. He mentions losing his voice and the absence of his crew.
  7. Cannabis Prices in BarcelonaBubbleman and an unidentified speaker discuss the rising prices of hash in Barcelona, comparing current prices to those from the previous year.
  8. Hemp Museum in BarcelonaA guest describes the historical significance of the Hemp Museum in Barcelona, its origins, and its importance in cannabis culture.
  9. THC Expo AnnouncementA guest announces the return of the THC Expo in Los Angeles, detailing the event's plans and the involvement of Tommy Chong.
  10. Technical Difficulties and Secret CupThe group experiences technical difficulties and discusses the Secret Cup competition, including the potential regional biases in judging Full Melt versus BHO.

Who was on this episode

Who was on this episode, matched from the voices in the transcript: Bubbleman.

Read the full transcript (199 paragraphs, machine transcribed)

BubblemanAnd then you can send it to Cuban and Rob. Rob might not be able to make it, but I always feel like you got to send it to Rob. You got to send it to Rob. Hey guys, welcome back. That was a little bit stressful. I was showing you guys the museum. I knew I shouldn't have my own bad mistake. I jacked the whole internet and made everyone's internet stop working, but we got it.

BubblemanWe got it working again. So let's see if I can't figure out a way live event. Back up on YouTube. I think we're good. Boom. Hashtag. Facebook. Here is the new link.

BubblemanHello. We both need to talk.

BubblemanLike you're muting you and I'm muting you? And then I'm muting you. Because it won't let me right now. I'm trying. All right. There we go. D420K, you made it back, dude. Culties.

BubblemanCan you hear us, buddy? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. We have zero. Oh, no, we got 21 viewers that we just got happening. So maybe that's from the YouTube. Let's see if they can find it. Oh, yeah. People are like, I was about to be sad. I'm glad I hung around. We are loyal. Who's Wally? He works at the museum. And why have they not...

BubblemanChange that smoke alarm battery. Alarm battery. Can you hear? Yeah, well, we'll keep them all up. I'm glad you guys came back. I was telling everyone to shut up, but I'm sorry.

BubblemanWe got good. Thank you for coming back. I see three people, so, I mean, we lost a lot. We had a pretty good conversation. Excellent. Thanks, Johnny B.

SpeakerNo problem. Yeah, we had a really good conversation going on about parchment and the Teflon oil. Yeah, I was in Cuba, so I was telling him, yeah, I was telling him, like, I used to use parchment a year ago. Two years ago, I used PFTA or something. It's like a Teflon clear telephone. I made a one-to-one CBD pineapple tsunami and turned it into high times. They didn't know what to do with it because they don't have ratio categories, but it was more of a gift.

SpeakerThat paper... Thank you so much for joining us today.

SpeakerThis is going to transfer like cotton just pushes the heat through. This is going to spread that heat across the surface area so you can even take lower temperatures with more pressure and be able to get this type of quality. So we were talking about the difference in using, because this was a pro rosin conversation about utilizing a screen like you were doing last time, but then taking it a step further and trying to oxidize and seal this and get a rosin that looks more like a finished A finished product, you know?

BubblemanYeah, we made some yesterday with Barb, and I also, Jeff is very, he loves his parchments. When you try to give him the Teflon, he's very sort of standoffish about it, but I think he'll come to the conclusion that the Teflon has some incredible, has to take a higher temperature, and the way it distributes, that rosin that came out from the Barb was insane. 90 micron Barb full melt rosin.

SpeakerYou guys are insane. You're taking already a six star and trying to make it into what, a seven or eight like Horatio was saying?

SpeakerYes. I have a feeling that it could concentrate it further. Tony, you've got to understand the power of Cleaning it up is addictive. So even, that's the thing, is can we get rosin tech to really just be a decontamination method at low temperatures is really what everyone's striving for. I mean, I saw people posting heated press rollers, which would then allow you to kind of pull sheets through and roll it and build up a huge wad.

SpeakerPeople are treating it like closed loop investments, like people are ready to spend a thousand bucks on You know what, everybody, before I went this weekend, we were sitting around

SpeakerThere's a lot of... There's a lot of...

SpeakerI guess like controversy with pressing high grade hash, a lot of the internet is kind of up in the air with it, man. The tech was first introduced to make half melt to no melt into full melt, but I think where it really shines is getting high grade hash that has a very low melt point, like that'll grease or melt easily, you know what I mean? So that you can filter it through the screen at lower temperatures or higher pressures.

SpeakerIt makes a very attractive oil.

BubblemanIn my opinion, it's good, bro. When we put the rosin, when we put the barb into the screen and all Jeff did was twist it. We didn't apply any heat. Grease came out of the screen.

SpeakerYeah. That's where it shines, you see. So that's making an oil with maximum terpene retention when you're using absolutely no heat. And that's where I think the research really needs to go to make like a connoisseur quality solvent-free oil. So right now I've made a lot of slabs as you've seen on the Instagram. We just sent a couple of the samples out to Steep Hill to get tested.

SpeakerAll out of 99% dry sift and 5 and 6 star water hash. So I'm really excited to see how that comes out.

SpeakerI think you're going to be really surprised that your results are identical if not even stronger because it hasn't been purged. Yeah. I'm going to go with even stronger, bro. Just because of the way the test was made, I used, you know, like 230, 240 degrees on the PID, a shit ton of pressure, and it took longer, but at the end of the day, what I was left with in the filter was like a very thin, waxy wafer.

SpeakerAnd this is from high-grade hash, so to me it's almost like a de-waxing process that the hash is going through. Absolutely. That's kind of, I was like, you know, if it takes longer and more pressure, we'll eventually design it so that we get away from this heat. And It absolutely, there's no purge. So just you've got, compared to a 48 hour purge, you've got a few seconds at high temp.

SpeakerSo as soon as you solve that, the game is set. So it's just a matter of going through industrial equipment until we see something that meets the physical demands of large scale production. Man, like I wish I didn't have to fold a piece of parchment. And like take it out every press and shit. Even though using a pneumatic press, I start to do the same thing somebody with a hair iron is doing.

SpeakerI wish there was a way to make like the oil drip down through with pressure. You know what I mean? Or something easier, a little easier. But the process is easier. Well, pressure equals heat. Yeah, the process is definitely very easy. I think that it could be… Thank you for watching.

SpeakerSome flower rosin, Soil Grown style. And of course, I'm just sitting here with my rub warm. Just another little dab. Of rosin. Nice work, Cuban. You saw that? That was, okay, so I grabbed some.

BubblemanYou held a slab of rosin.

SpeakerI made like 90%. Yeah, I made like a 90% dry sift and then ended up with rosin. Boom. We got you, dude.

BubblemanThat's a sheet. Holy sheet. Look at that.

SpeakerDamn.

BubblemanRawson.

SpeakerDamn. So you know, we're going hard at it.

BubblemanAs you should. Just wait till you see Jamaican Rawson.

SpeakerOoh, that'll be dope. Yeah, so what I was saying to you earlier when we got cut off was the other thing I've been doing when you were talking about no heat was making this little packet was just made. I took that and put it on the fire, like a fireplace mantle, something that's warm. So if you could touch the warmth with your hand, then it's generally a pretty good And then, you know, from there, because that paper spreads the temperature out really well, the more pressure you put on that, you're not going to break it up like fibers, like the way parchment is.

SpeakerYou're going to just push on it. That's why it's Teflon. And so that's how I'm getting it to do that. We're interested to see what happens. I'm going to try to send you, I'll try to get you a roll, and I'll send you some so you can work with it. And... Besides, I have to come see you anyway. Remember, we're going to be doing something here soon together.

SpeakerYeah. Are we?

BubblemanCuban.

SpeakerI'm talking about Cuban. Nice. Yeah. I'm doing a Terpsif project with them.

BubblemanNice. We've had a couple of discussions as well, but our shit's not ready for public.

SpeakerAlright, so Mark, one thing you've missed in the Chipping Out, it'd be the third time we bring it up, but John's ball rig, he's in the Mothership clan now. But John has a ball rig?

BubblemanAre you saying Johnny B has a ball rig?

SpeakerYeah, did you see it? There he is.

BubblemanWhat about Darren? You mean Darren.

SpeakerHe went and saw Darren.

BubblemanSo John, who told me a week ago he would never get a mothership, bought a ball rig.

SpeakerTold me Friday he would never get a mothership, bought a ball rig. Let's see it, Johnny. Hey, goodbye. Goodbye, John. That's awesome, bro. Congrats, dog. I've always wanted a ball rig. Those things rip.

SpeakerHell yeah. So I got the inverted, like I would never get a piece.

BubblemanI'm not, that's not my thing. I'm not going to get a mothership. I'm like, I should always get a mothership.

SpeakerI would, I never thought I would ever, ever, ever get this. It's an inverted imaging sandblasting. There's, it's a kind of a very unique piece. It shows me it is what it is, and I'm very, very happy and pleased and honored to be able to own such a beautiful piece.

BubblemanAnd it hits like a champ, and it's beautiful. That's awesome.

SpeakerThanks. You know what, I owe it all to everybody here, so it's really, it's just wonderful. You know, I'm making epic cash, and I've got to be able to get the nice money, and I've got a really nice ring to appreciate the medicine that I make for myself. And it's just one more step of being able to enjoy what I love so much.

SpeakerAnd you know what? I started with a D now. And I was looking for a ring that I could actually properly put this deep dish banger on.

SpeakerMoney well spent, man.

SpeakerOn that note, I'm hitting some hash. This is a 99.9% dry sift. The reason why I got this was specifically for this right here.

SpeakerIt's...

SpeakerIt hits you really nicely, really hard.

BubblemanYeah, I know. I'm well-versed in the mothership rips, I have to say. I've hit all of them. I love them all, from the ball rig to the exosphere to the FTK to the fab to the street fine. I think they're all great. I'm a big supporter of mothership, and... Definitely glad that everyone's picking one up and enjoying the goodness because it definitely hits way better than cheap, swag, Chinese glass.

SpeakerIt's just the way to do it. I definitely get the benefits from this, right?

SpeakerWhat's going on with Brad?

BubblemanBrad Higgins. You literally have to go talk in the other room. Hey, how's it going? It's a sweep, so I won't hear it.

SpeakerYeah.

BubblemanPretty good. If I didn't say that to him, he'd talk. And my speakers are so shitty.

SpeakerCan you hear me?

SpeakerI can hear you guys. All right.

SpeakerJohn just killed it all.

SpeakerYo, so I know I don't have a YouTube channel. I know you guys like to ask that every time in the chat. No YouTube. I just do Instagram. No Grove. Only on the Hash Church. That's the only time you'll see my pretty mug on video. Low resolution, but you'll see me.

SpeakerSo yeah, somebody on the chat was asking me about, I posted a product called Water Sift last week on my Instagram. And all it is, it's water hash that I caught from a 160 to a 45 to make like, you know, a giant range patty. I broke it down with a card. I stuck it in the vac. A vac dried for, you know, about a day and a half or two.

SpeakerIt was like completely dry and brittly. I put my dry sieve screens. In order, you know, 61, or actually I think I ran like an 86, a 125, a 180, and a 196, and a 230, which is just like copying microns on bubble bags. You see a 125 LPI is like a 120, a 180 is like an 80 something micron, the 196 is like a 73, so on and so forth.

SpeakerAnd what I did is just like I carded the resin through the screens. Now because I did it microplane and I took a lot of care on the patty after I pulled it from the bags, the heads, the majority of them didn't break. So I was able to treat the resin like dry sift and although I caught a big range from 160 to 45, I could properly isolate it back to head sizes.

SpeakerSo I was able to get a product and make a 6 star out of it, a 5 star and a 4 star just based on trichome sizes. So that's what water sift is and it doesn't go for any higher of a price than water hash. It was just for fun to see how well I could preserve the trichome throughout the extraction to the drying process. And I felt, you know, felt very good with the results, man.

SpeakerI'm taking good care of those resin heads that, you know, work hard to grow. Yes, a vac. I do vac dry my hash, bro. At about 45 to 50 degrees. And if you think there's terpene loss, man, then it's a good thing because my house is really terpy. You know what I mean? I'll be more than happy to share with you guys.

BubblemanThere can't be that much terpene loss if some of the sesquiterpenes, the ones that are the most volatile, are still present and testing after the heating. That says a lot.

SpeakerAlso, Hardcore Dabhead. Love it. Yeah, now the rosin, in retrospect, the heat that the rosin is getting is not real high, guys. When you're pressing out a dab on a hair iron, making a patty, you're subjecting it to the same thing, you know what I mean? Not everybody, because a lot of people go low temp on the pressing. But I was guilty of pressing my patties hot as hell and really thin.

SpeakerAnd pressed hash tastes the same to me as lightly pressed hash.

BubblemanWhat I laughed about was how people say, well, you're going to destroy it if you heat it. I'm like, well, how do you smoke yours?

SpeakerWell, I heat it. Oh, isn't it destroyed?

BubblemanIt's like, how are you going to say heat's going to just smoke it and it gets you high?

SpeakerPeople have to look past what it is. I mean, if we're pressing 99% dry sift through a screen to make an oil, it's a good thing. It's all for research. We're not trying to ruin dry sift. And let me tell you, the end product, although never will be available commercially, is definitely nice to smoke. And I'd love to share it with you guys, man. Hey, Mark, you inspired me, bro.

SpeakerLet me tell you, I would have never pressed dry sift ever until I saw you do it on video. And the Rev too with the filter. You guys changed my life, man.

BubblemanThanks, brother. Thanks for the good words. Always happy to pass on some inspiration.

BubblemanMore dabs. 350 people. I wish our internet connection was better. We can barely hear most of what you guys are saying. Oh, and I just crashed. So there we go, we're done. Oh, you're there, you're there, I can hear you. Oh, really?

SpeakerYeah. Dude, how can you hear me? The page is closed. I don't know, bro, but I can. And I can see you, too. Oh, he lagged out, no. I don't know if you can hear me, but what just happened, I just posted on the Instagram page. Uh, what used to be River Rock's page is now my Blue River page. And, uh, it went crazy. It was like... Yeah, it says we're still live.

SpeakerWhat's your name? Yeah, it says we're live, so we're good. Alright. So good. I'm posting a show everywhere, but hopefully the internet will stay on because there's really good stuff earlier. And some people are just tuning in. The, uh, A lot of heavy stuff about rosin technique, and if you're just tuning in, you guys should watch the show after Bubble Man pushes it out there.

BubblemanYeah, I think it's better if you guys do more of the talking is all because it's still being recorded perfectly. It's just we're not as able to engage with you guys because I don't hear... Tony, I hear you pretty good. I was hearing Horatio good. Cuban was cutting in and out as was John for me and I just wasn't able to hear everything that everyone's saying so I'll try to be a part of the conversation but...

BubblemanI think if you guys just continue the church and keep the conversation going, that's the 371 people that are watching right now. We really appreciate that. And the 10,000 people that are going to watch it in the next 48 hours, well, they will also appreciate it.

SpeakerYeah. Love you, Mark, bro. Have fun in Spain and tell everybody I said what's up. I wish I was in those tables, man. Spanavis is so dope. Next year, for sure.

BubblemanNext year.

SpeakerSo I'm doing the reclaim from the Rosen that I've collected in the deep dish banger. And this reclaim from the Rosen is another level. You're smoking reclaim out of your banger? What? It's... I mean, oh gosh, right? I mean, it's... Yeah.

SpeakerBut yeah, guys, okay, so rosin is like this, right? If you use three-star rosin or three-star material and you make it into rosin, you're not going to get a six-star quality rosin, okay? Thank you for watching.

SpeakerYou're going to change your opinion. And let me tell you, my first rosin that I started doing with the filter was using a hair iron. I would be able to fit like two grams of hash in a tiny square and just put it in the middle and squeeze up against something at like 300 degrees and the oil would just seep out. Super fire.

SpeakerSo that becomes the next debate, the flower rosin oil versus the two star to four star or the four star to five or the upgrade oil. Because I guess currently I'm only smoking flower rosin and most people are getting excited about being able to bring life back to stuff they wouldn't smoke. So there's kind of two worlds happening. There's the world of the flower rosin high end but there's the world of oh my god I have so much new hash that I never had before.

SpeakerWhen it comes to taking that two star and bringing it to something you can at least dab. So it's got a lot of different dimensions because some people are just dealing with taking their old bubble hash. Some people are dealing, like me, I'm dealing with 45U SIFT. And other people are dealing with straight flowers. So that's kind of where the different text and the different images are a bit confusing because people see the huge slab and they're like, he made that out of flour.

SpeakerHoly shit, Cuban's a god. And I'm like, relax everybody, it must be, he must have SIF that he's cleaning up. There's confusion over... Basically the source of material that produces your rosin because it's easier to produce a ton of key if you can clean up and then rosin then obviously dealing with bud by bud in a t-shirt press.

SpeakerSo... Yeah, Krista Kush, bro. I'm glad you have the candid cam in my bath, player. So anyways, flour versus three stars. This is the way I look at it, right? If you're pressing flours, you're getting a full range of heads. So the quality of the oil coming out of the flours overall is going to be higher. But think about what you're doing. When you're squishing flours, all you're doing is juicing a trichome, right?

SpeakerSo that's why I don't agree with flower rosin. You might as well just do a two-part extraction. Like I did yesterday, I dry sifted a pound, got it to about 90% purity, and then rosined it, and it made that slab I was showing. Or you could just wash a bunch of hash and then make rosin with it after. The flower is more, I guess it's geared towards, hey, you can stick some flowers and make a dab in like 10 to 15 seconds, right?

SpeakerBut the yields are so small and it's just not, it's counterproductive. Much easier and better results, higher yields and just overall less time consumed doing it with large amounts of hash. A lot of people don't have the pound to talk about. And getting into actually doing a proper little hit, I get a nice little favor from doing the rose and bud than what I get from the different sifts.

SpeakerFrom like when I collect underneath the 110, I press that out, that's a different high. I'm pressing different things, so the butt itself is like everything in pizza, in the oil or the chowder business, and then pressing all those different microns gives you different activities. So, I mean, you're getting a different medical value from so many different gland heads, and with the butt, for me, it's quick.

SpeakerIt's easy. A lot of people can do it. I do like it, but I prefer my sift 100%. So, I mean, there's going to be different variables with it. I mean, the butt itself, for me, Nice little relief, 100%. I'm going to gear towards that before I go and start pressing out with my 4501s.

SpeakerIt's quicker, it's easier, and it's more effective. Awesome. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, go ahead, Tony. I mean, that's just how I, I mean, I'm here. We went deep into like 15 profiles, so if we look at, If we look at the surface of the leaf, we know that there's different types of resin heads in the distance of them. So some of them are, like Bubbleman and I were talking about, some of them are closer to the leaf, some of them are mid, and some of them have the long stalks with the bigger heads.

SpeakerIf you just look at it as a one, two, three, being it further away and being able to isolate it versus closer to the leaf, and then you have different uniformities that happen among that. So when we use a polar, a non-polar, or a semi-polar, We're going to be pulling out those different levels of cannabinoids, phytocannabinoids, terpene levels, depending also on the type of temperature that we're using and the starting material.

SpeakerIf the starting material is dry and aged, your reclaim in your bowl that you're looking at right there that you were talking about will be much different than my reclaim that's inside this. If you look at the edge of my reclaim, how How bright yellow that is. So that's because everything that I'm smoking is taking off of fresh plants and fresh materials. And in that process, we're keeping it cold and we're keeping it preserved the entire way.

SpeakerAnd then when there's that vaporization happening at very low temperatures, the reclaim isn't going to be like a CBN, like a dark red or a dark brown, because the starting material wasn't aged. So that's what this is going to get into. There's two things like Horatio said that's going on. I think it's fantastic, amazing, and awesome that people now in their home and people with old, dry bud like myself have got bud laying around and you want to get the best out of it.

SpeakerIf it's old and really, really old and dry, you can imagine what that press and resin would be like versus fresh and clear. What happened?

SpeakerYou said bird. I said bird.

BubblemanBird! Dude, you guys, you guys are missed.

SpeakerOh, I miss being there. You guys are missed. I'll tell you that for sure. You got Dean over here too. Oh, hey, can somebody bang Crystal Kush? He's annoying. Yeah. Anyway, I do think that the way Cuban's going about it, This Cuban grows for resin production. He's meticulous about his curing process. He's meticulous about every little detail on that. Again, what's going to happen is he's going to find that perfect harmony between as the bud's curing, as the chirps are curing, and when to press it, how much pressure, what the temperature would be, the surface area of all those things.

SpeakerI think you will see competition grade, absolutely. Like in high times and everything else. I think you're going to see that. And then imagine someone like Horatio and I come along and we add Terps back into it. Then it's game over. I would like to share with you some of my rosin when I'm in Denver. What I found out, we tried every strain that we were considering entering into the Denver Cup and we rosined a sample, right, to see, you know, what was up.

SpeakerAbout 80% of the strains lost their initial nose. Like if the terpene that we were smelling from the resin itself was lost at lower temperatures. There was only one strain out of everything we tried that after making it into a rosin retained its, you know, I would say full terpene profile, but I haven't tested it. So, you know, that's kind of premature to say, but some strains do better in rosin than others.

SpeakerOthers lose their taste almost completely. Also, that's the same way in terpene extractions. I'm sure Horatio would say the same thing, that there's some strains that just don't quite come out the same way. When I did a Death Star, there's a certain aroma and there's a certain put-off, almost like a frequency, if you would, from the smell that's coming off of when the plant's alive versus when you just have the pure essence.

SpeakerIt's the way it interacts with, I think, the plant material. There's a natural... Well I mean I even noticed that some terpenes are so caustic and thick that

SpeakerThey're not worth isolating. They're just not worth it. I'm like, now I kind of have a little bit of what must have been spread out so thinly over the entire mass that now I pretty much ruined it by isolating it into three drops. This is stuck as flour if it's ever going to be the ultimate blueberry. But other strains, they just give and give and give until I'm like, I don't know what to do with all this liquid.

SpeakerI end up with spare. But the one last point I wanted to make on that rosin debate was when we were originally talking about why the hit of flower rosin could be so amazing, it was mainly because there was the introduction of the bulbous heads in that milking process that a lot of people haven't experienced that maybe oil people are used to because it's in that profile.

SpeakerBut for flower rosin people... Yeah, it's the first time you've actually experienced that included that head, so that was why I was like, well, yes, for production, being able to convert three-star or four-star is the most intelligent and efficient, but rosin has that potential to unlock a different medicinal value in its flower format, even if it's Every person has to press their own. I don't know if I could ever think of a way to industrially produce 100 grams of flour rosin, but I can with SIFT, but I might be interested in working really hard at it just to see what that other profile that people don't necessarily always get, getting that included in their oil.

SpeakerYeah, and I think where you'll see a production is, think about this, man. Look at how much is being cultivated and how much is Being hand trimmed in California alone, when you think about all of the hand trim coming off of a fresh cure, right? Think about that's part of labor. You're trimming a plant. So if you're collecting hand trim, you know, centers can sit on 100, 200, 300 pounds of hand trim.

SpeakerAnd if you hand trim and you hand trim over a screen and you do everything proper and collected, you know, then there's lots of things you can do with that. And I think that's when it becomes More worth it when you can get your hand trim game up higher enough. Then you have a byproduct and you can clean that, you can press it. Also, when you're doing greenhouses, there's a lot of lower larv and buds.

SpeakerIf you're growing big plants and you've got tons of this, like the smalls, if you will, and those things will lower the cost per pound and that's when you'll get, you'll see the more production of it. And that's kind of what we're trying to attempt now. In Colorado, that was the whole Blue River thing, was taking specific strains, breeding for resin for specific products, not just the medical grade and the product, but the high-end connoisseurs as well that are out there.

BubblemanWell, that certainly sounds great to me. And I think we're going to take this opportunity to switch the conversation slightly and talk to Sophia. No, she doesn't want to? She got dabbed out? Aww, she got all dabbed out. She was going to tell us a little bit about the museum, but that's okay. We're going to switch the conversation back to DTFO.

SpeakerDTFO.

BubblemanDTFO.

BubblemanOh, should we take the camera and show you guys?

SpeakerProbably not.

BubblemanI'm just... She's all laid out in the corner. There she is. There she is over in the corner on the floor.

BubblemanJust being silly. Alright, well I'm going to get DTFO'd then.

BubblemanWe sure did a lot of raws and yesterday Jeff and I at the booth for probably eight or nine hours, well maybe six or seven hours. Six or seven hours at least. People just brought hash and brought bud and... Either involved in which was Barb 90 Micron from Matt the Great Gardener. We squeezed that into rosin. That was completely psychotic and insane. And just I can't even tell you how insane it was.

BubblemanBut then from there it was every type of bud, every type of hash from Indian, Manali, Parvati. Some of them had contaminant and the rosin would come out like black. Other ones, the bud were too fresh, and we would squeeze water-soluble chlorophyll out into the gold resin, and it would literally be blue. Blue. Blue fucking resin. Yeah, that was crazy shit, dude. It looked like ink. But I guess when you take green and gold, you get blue.

BubblemanThat's pretty trippy. What are you puffing on, some flower rosin?

SpeakerYes, some amnesia here is from... HQ Barcelona that I just pressed into arousing.

SpeakerHey there. Welcome, welcome. Are you alone? Yeah, just got myself. Let me grab you for a minute before we get on. She wants to leave, so let me. Okay, yeah, sure.

BubblemanThat's good. What was his name? Steven? Steve? What was his name again? You guys don't know? Steven. No? Jeremy? Wow, that was way off.

SpeakerJeremy Norrie.

BubblemanJeremy Norrie. He's one of the dudes that throws the secret cup. So he was here, and he's going to come hang out and chat with us in a little bit as well. I guess they had their event yesterday, didn't they? Secret cup?

SpeakerWhere does it go for the next? Oh, and then they announce here tomorrow.

BubblemanRight, so they're going to announce their awards tomorrow here at the Hemp and Marijuana and Hash Museum. So that'll be cool. I think everyone seemed to be having a good time. I personally don't hit the oils myself, but lots of my friends have been smoking all the Secret Cup entries as well as Dabadoo entries. And, God, wasn't there one or two other ones? There was the cannabinoid contest one, and I think there was four contests out here in this four-day period.

BubblemanSo people are in the competitive spirits. I'm just hitting dabs.

BubblemanJust ripping dabs. Man, a lot of people gave me a beautiful lunch. Things have come far in Spain. If you're wondering, okay, sure, if you come and you don't know anyone and you try to buy just herb at any old association, it might not be the happiest experience. But yes, there are people here that take this very, very seriously on all levels, from hydrocarbon extractions, chemical extractions, alcohol extractions, dry sifting, wet washing, a More than 20 people came up to me and showed me full melt dry sift.

BubblemanA lot of people have stepped up their game with the parchment static trick and with the carding and with the 10 second trick. So more people are making fire dry sift. More people have learned how to dry water hash and of course here in Spain they have the advantage of having a very powerful almost tropical sun throughout their summer months especially down in the south. And they can grow great resin here.

BubblemanBasque Country grows incredible resin. I've seen some really nice things from Basque. And, yeah, I have to say the full melt situation here, obviously I am bubble man and people are coming to me to give it to me, but I still think that you could find it here without, you know, being someone that was involved in hash, that you could come to Barcelona and you could potentially, you know, buy some nice full melts.

BubblemanWhich has come a long way, two, three years ago. I can actually come there and friends that are growing his strains and stuff have beautiful on-point resin.

BubblemanBumped into Soma a little earlier as well as Noel Van Schyack, invited them both, but... They're busy as well.

SpeakerHey, I'd really like Crystal Kush to be banned. Please and thank you. Crystal Kush? Crystal Kush. He seems to be a hater for Washington, hiding behind a spoof handle. I've never heard of it.

BubblemanI've never heard of it. What are you saying? You want me to pick you up some Crystal Kush or are we making fun of someone? I can't tell.

SpeakerNo, no. I want to have Crystal Kush banned from the chat. All right. I'll do it right now. Sweet. Thanks.

BubblemanYeah, that's easy.

BubblemanWe can do that real easy.

SpeakerHere's a dab for your ban, buddy.

BubblemanLet me just find him in here and we'll get rid of him. Where did he go?

BubblemanCrystal Kush. Oh, you want to call him a rookie? Well, why don't you don't let the door hit you on the way out, bro. I doubt it's for you. Goodbye, my friend. Sayonara, Crystal. Have a good one. Hope you get some better hash, bro, because clearly yours is better.

SpeakerYeah, he was mad. He was really mad about something. I have no idea what.

BubblemanI didn't read it, but if you're asking me to kick him out, I'm guessing he's being a dick.

SpeakerHe was, bro. He was. And you know what? I haven't even had my dab of the day, so that's not fair, bro. To troll me before I even get high.

SpeakerI've done like 25 dabs in the last hour or so.

BubblemanTo troll me before I even get high.

BubblemanThat's awesome. Hey man, we're just trying to chill. Crystal Kush.

SpeakerWow, you've been in the chat a long time for not having a pop, bro. Can I get you an amnesia?

BubblemanI'll have a little dab and of course hit barb or anything you want on my... You can smoke this shit chronic right now. Yeah.

BubblemanChronic. Bird. I can't believe. I was so excited to chill out and hang out with Bird. And then he just, they lost his passport. That's some bullshit. Hitting the eggs. I was wondering why you were leaning over him like that, Tony. I clicked on your camera and you guys were like one shadow.

BubblemanI'm going to dress up as a pastor for Ash Church as a father. You guys are hilarious. By the way, I unmuted you so we can hear you.

SpeakerWhat happened was, Bart was like using the torch on an angle and trying to get the whole thing lit up, and I go, bro, it's so much easier than that. It's actually placed at the perfect height so that the torch and it can burn at the perfect same height like this, look.

SpeakerSo it just sits. And it's perfectly, perfect, at the perfect level. And so Dane was making fun of me. My man, you're waiting too long to hit that. To hit that. And I was like, no, it's got to be timed perfectly. So I leaned over and did it to Bert in that moment. Pretty fun.

BubblemanWell, we've got almost 500 people watching Hash Church right now. We thank you guys for coming back. I've had some technical difficulties. I've almost lost my voice here.

SpeakerIt's rough. It's rough. So tell me, from last year's experience to this year's experience, remember when we got there where the non-solvent game was at and where they were at with the, I guess with the solvent extractions, and the quality of the flowers and the pricing was pretty cheap, like Has pricing gone up? What would you say your evaluation is?

BubblemanWell, I was telling someone that I got some nice hash at HQ for 35 a gram, and they were like, no, man, that's half a gram. And I was like, what? 70 euros for a gram? Holy Christ. But then again, I didn't pay for it. David gave it to me, so I didn't realize that it was like that much. So I think they do have good price stuff as well.

BubblemanLike you could walk into HQ and buy some 15 euro a gram shit, sit down with your sister's hair straightener and squeeze Six Star out of that shit. You know what I mean? And literally turn around and sell it back to them for 40 wholesale.

SpeakerDo you have an outlet? Do you have an outlet in the couch? I'm going to start making you wholesale.

BubblemanYeah, I just go to associations, hang out for three hours, spend $200 and make $1,000.

SpeakerSo, yeah, last year, just so you know, last year when we were there, I believe, wasn't it like $20 or $30? Maybe it was $20 and a half a grand.

SpeakerIt was pretty cheap.

BubblemanIt was around that. Dude, I'm telling you, I'm crewless. I'm crewless here. None of you guys are here, basically. I saw Giddy up once. He was out in front of HQ, and he was like, dude, you've got to help me pull some strings. I can't get my girlfriend in. I'm like, well, okay, what's the problem? He's like, she's not old enough. I was like, how old is your girlfriend, dude?

BubblemanJust making sure I'm not getting a 14-year-old into HQ here, boy.

SpeakerOh, my God.

BubblemanNo, she was a 20-year-old girl. Apparently, you got to be 21. I didn't know it was 21. I would have thought 18. Yeah, 21 you got to be to go in there. I was like, damn, I don't have that much weight to push.

SpeakerHey, where's your camera pointing? Oh, I can see all you guys good. Why don't you tell us some things, Todd? We haven't heard from you in a bit. Can you hear me? I'm muted, right?

BubblemanYou gotta mute, you do.

SpeakerCan you guys hear me? Alright, hold on. You know what you might have to do? Turn down your volume. I think I was. Yeah. Well, it's really great in Barcelona. This place is a real milestone in cannabis culture. It It is born out of Ben's Drunkard's Hemp Collection in Amsterdam. As many of us here know, he started the museum. Well, he purchased the museum back in the 80s and renovated it and added to his collection constantly.

SpeakerAnd back, well, 12, now 13, 14, 15 years ago, Ben decided he wanted to expand the museum and he decided to get another place for it. And he found this beautiful palace that's 500 years old. And he renovated. It took 12 years to renovate this place and turned it into really the world's most beautiful hemp collection. I don't know how else to put it. And now it's been open since 2012 and it's only €7.50 to get in.

SpeakerAnd anyone that travels to Barcelona that loves cannabis should come here. It is amazing. It is absolutely amazing. It's over 1,000 square meters of history and artifacts. And just fun stuff, really. It's actually really great. Yeah. And so I said a few things about the museum. Dude, of course you did. Please do. You should tell people a little bit about your event.

SpeakerWell, I'm going to hold off on that a little bit. What do you call it? That is going to be pretty epic. And I'll tell you why in a minute. But...

SpeakerYeah. Well, I guess we can talk about it now. Are you there? Can you hear me? No. You did just fry it. You did. Wow. Well, can you guys still hear me or is everybody frozen? No. The whole room is frozen. Tony, can you hear me? Tony, can you hear me? That's affirmative. All right, Tony, love you. Yeah, we can hear. All right, Mark's coming back. Well, everybody, what I've been working on for the past few months is renting the Los Angeles Coliseum to bring back the THC Expo again this June.

SpeakerThey have so far been very, very kind and considerate about this, and they're going to let me rent the entire place and turn most of it into a compliance area so we'll have the freedom to use cannabis in accordance with California law. We're going to turn most of the field into booths, and we're going to have music going on Saturday and Sunday with also speakers and presenters, and we're also going to do the Cannabis Culture Awards, and Tommy Chong has agreed to attend and accept the Cannabis Culture Award for his work as an activist and as just an all-around great guy in cannabis.

SpeakerSo, yeah. That's awesome. You coming back on, Mark? I'm trying. My computer's like 10% loaded. It's white-screened with an Apple. Awesome. Like I crashed hard, bro.

BubblemanMy shit went, whoa. Made that nice sound. It's like not a good sound.

SpeakerWell, that sometimes happens.

BubblemanSee, this isn't even an internet thing now. This is just my computer.

SpeakerThis is just the computer.

BubblemanBecause I prefer my computer like I was a teenage boy driving a muscle car.

SpeakerRight.

BubblemanIt's just like red light all the time. Right. My computer's like too hot all the time. I have to put ice packs and stuff under it because it's just like turning. I'm rendering photos. I'm rendering video. I'm uploading. I'm downloading. This is too much. Clearly.

SpeakerWell, you know what? I think I'm still on, man. You can come sit here while your computer sets up and stay. Thank you so much. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye-bye. Thank you. What is it, Todd? There it is. Yes, there it is.

SpeakerTony, did you want to mute yourself, Tony? Hold on, let me see if I got... Tony, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you loud and clear. Oh, now I can hear you too, Tony. It's good to see you, bro. You look great. Yeah, we're just having technical difficulties this whole time. That guy has a shirt on that says Terp. Terps? Yeah, that's ATN. This one.

SpeakerYeah, ATN owns a group. All right, cool, cool. They can see you. Hi, everybody. Enjoying the selection of past year in Barcelona. I have to say that the representation at the Secret Cup was quite amazing, especially to see the international entries. Who won on the Secret Cup? That's still to be decided. I was fortunate enough to get a kit, but I'm not an official judge, so I've been able to...

SpeakerWe've been able to get quite a perspective on what's going on here in Europe compared to what we have going on in Europe. What was me just coming back? I'm muted though. My mic is muted. Bring up your sound, though. Okay, sorry. Me? I don't want to bring up my sound. Technical difficulties, people. Just a minor feedback. Hey, everybody.

BubblemanI don't know if we're live, though.

SpeakerAre we live? Can you hear me? It says live. Tony, can you still hear me? I linked up the Hash Church on my Instagram, and people are telling me that they can't access it. They cannot access it. I don't know. I don't know what that means. People in the chat, I guess they can see us. I'm seeing it on YouTube. It says 54 minutes, and people say yes when you're live.

SpeakerOkay. All right.

BubblemanI don't know how that one worked out, because my computer, the one that's controlling everything, died.

SpeakerWow. That's trippy, bro. You're muted, but I can still hear you. You know what? It's coming through, Mike.

SpeakerOh, no. No, I'm not lagging. Cool. So, Secret Cup. Right? I follow those guys on Instagram, and they were posting all the entries, you know, BHO, and they got to like a piece of some, looked like to me some fire full melt, like some grease, and then immediately everybody was like, soup, taint soup, that's the soup, like they weren't even able to like recognize it was some full melt.

SpeakerNow, That makes me think, bro, is that a competition geared more towards BHO than Full Melt? Does Full Melt have like a disadvantage at the Secret Cup just because it's like a blind panel type of test? Do you need to pick a certain type of Full Melt to even be competitive so it won't get confused as shitty BHO? That might be something that's only happening in Spain because that's region to region because in the PNW it's not an issue when I...

SpeakerLike it won second place, I think it was SoCal. It's not an issue in California. Everybody knows, you know, you smoke both. It's probably something coming from a region that's just adopting solvent extracts. So they're really only focused on, the only thing they're going to judge is shatter. That's usually where it's the first round. But in the more mature secret cups... I'm expecting to have serious problems with you entering rosin in Pacific Northwest, so it's not going to be an issue.

SpeakerIn fact, in your case, it's going

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Earlier: Barcelona Spannabis Hash Church: Hemp Museum Session (March 22, 2015). Later: Whistler Blackcomb: Trichome Science and Rosin Deep Dive (March 29, 2015).