Whistler Glass Church: Terpene Extraction and Steam Distillation

0:02BubblemanHey, guys. Welcome to Hash Church. Welcome to a freshly shaved head bubble man. I am over with Nate Cirque and Wins in the house.

0:13SpeakerWhat's up?

0:15BubblemanThese guys, well, we have a little bit of glass on the table today. Maybe today it's glass church. You never know what's going to happen on Hash Church. You just never know. Back to the DNA hat. I guess DNA is not going to be in the house today. Aaron has some birthday celebrations. So we'll be seeing them maybe next week. I just sent out the link and I want to welcome everyone.

0:41BubblemanGot a big old chat room full of people. Brian Church, Kramer Cosmo, Martin Clifford, Kevin Ahern, Tree Nail, Trendy's Dabber. What's up, Trendy? How you doing, Nate? Nice to see you in church. Yes, shaved bubble except not shaved face. Morning. Gerthakian, Raphael, Hipster Meister, K-Town Jr. and Sarah. Welcome. Rastafari, Halei Selassiei. Yes, I'm echoing. Damn. I'm sorry that I'm echoing. Hey, what's up, Tony? What's going on?

1:15BubblemanGood morning. Can you hear me okay? I can hear you perfectly. Oh, well, that's awesome. It's nice to see you, my friend. Good to see you as well. I'm going to get this post out there as well out there. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, it's always a nice idea to let people know that we're here, we're doing it. Absolutely. Probably do that as well. Do a quick little Facebook post.

1:42BubblemanYes, sir. Yeah, someone said I was echoing in the chat. I'm not sure. Maybe.

1:52BubblemanMaybe. No echo. Excellent. Thank you, Ney. So you're gearing up? You're getting excited, Tony?

1:59SpeakerI am, man. It's been a long time coming. I'm just working every day straight since I met you. But I'm looking forward to seeing everybody. We travel around the world all the time, and we get to see people, and basically this is our chance to kind of, at least my chance to, Host people and just hang out with them. This year I'm not doing anything super crazy.

2:27SpeakerWe've got kind of a super collab 12 booth thing with everybody. Nice. And then there is a party that I'm having and then there's also a party that I just got last night for Illusion Glass. And there's going to be, my phone's dead, but let me see if I can find it. There's like Joe Peter's. And it's like a list of five or six guys going to be blowing.

2:58BubblemanOh, is he a glass blower? I'm just joking. He's that guy.

3:03SpeakerFunny. But, yeah, no, he's going to be, he's headlining this whole thing at Illusions. Because the cup is, the awards are the 19th, and then they're allowing people to just, the booths to stay open on the 20th. But the, what did it say? The actual, 420, there's not like, it's not going to be per se like a cup. The awards are the night before. So what we're hoping is, what we're hoping to do is have a little party at my place, have a little party at Illusion, go back and forth, and really enjoy the whole day.

3:43SpeakerMaybe hit the rally and stuff like that. Sounds pretty good. Yeah.

3:48BubblemanWe've been getting a little bit of people roll through. I saw Jonah Tacoma from Dab Stars. I bumped into him with the Sublimator crew the other day. And then I got a call from Martin, the owner of Roor. Welcome, Horatio. Martin is coming out here in about five or six days. First time he's been out in 15 years. He's also coming out to do work with the Sublimator crew.

4:11HoratioBut of course, I'm going to end up seeing him and spending some time with him because I've been good friends with Martin for,

4:18BubblemanYou know, almost 20 years.

4:22BubblemanHey, we got 300 people in the room right now.

4:24SpeakerI am posting, my friend. I am posting, posting, posting.

4:29BubblemanHey, did you see the glass on this table here, Tony?

4:33SpeakerNo, I have not. I mean, to be honest with you, you're in another little window. Let me pull you out over here. Oh, my goodness. Wow. You've got one of my favorites here. It's Marcello's collab pieces, is that not? Little Marcella, yeah. Dale Somers. Wow. Wow. That's ridiculous.

4:54BubblemanDo you want us to pelly it up and send it out, or?

5:00BubblemanYeah. Oh, geez. Welcome, Joshua.

5:09BubblemanBizarre Brothers in the house. Bubble Ambassador. Oakland Representing. Yeah, Joshua makes more bubble in an afternoon than most people make in their life. And I'm talking about just in one mix. Oh, geez. Hey, you're muted, Joshua. You're muted. We can't hear your comic hilarity.

5:35JoshuaI am muted, and we're just having a conversation over here in the background. I didn't want to mess up the church. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, everybody. You with space?

5:45HoratioBrothers in the house.

5:47JoshuaSpace is, he's still sleeping. Yeah, yeah. Hey, turn off the YouTube. I'm going to turn off the YouTube here.

5:55HoratioThere you go. I get that from everybody every time.

5:59BubblemanIt's the same thing to me. You know what? It didn't happen to me this morning, only because for whatever reason, this computer is a little bit newer. I'm on my, I'm on an Airbook, MacBook Air. It, um, It didn't play the sounds through YouTube, I guess, because the sound was coming out through the Google Chat, so that was kind of a nice little bonus for everyone. I would have been 29 times in a row.

6:21BubblemanLook at that little dude. Is it? Chubbling in the stem? Jeez, it is. Jesus Christ. Is that some Jason Lee fucking craziness, or what? Yeah, Jason Lee is fucking from... Oh yeah, look at that. Lebo. Lebo. Lebo. I've been thinking about you. Dude, as if we're going to let Joshua take a rip like that and not take one ourselves. What piece of glass should I hit on this table?

6:57BubblemanThere's stack lows, there's acres. What is that? It's a Marcella. Should I try the Aaron Culver? Oh my God, look at that thing. Damn.

7:09SpeakerI like the way that guy's coughing. I need to get on that.

7:16BubblemanHe's hitting that brain taffy, dude. Candy. All right, so I guess I got to torch up here.

7:23SpeakerYeah, I'm just sending this little thing.

7:26JoshuaOur logo, our product, trademark. I like that.

7:46JoshuaOh, hey, I'm still on mic. All right, fellas, sweet. Smoking some tall max glass over here.

7:56SpeakerYo, what's going on? I'm just on hash charts and I got 1% of my battery.

8:03BubblemanNice with the max representing. Here, let me mute Tony real quick while he has a conversation. I'm going to do a little dunk out of this guy. Pretty excited about this.

8:32BubblemanWell, shit! That sure hits like a champion. Let's name this guy again. Aaron Colbert? East Coast? Toronto?

8:40SpeakerNo, no. Kelowna.

8:41BubblemanKelowna? West Coast. Damn. Well, thanks, Aaron.

8:47SpeakerHit up Wins West if you like his work.

8:49BubblemanYeah, you can check out Wins West on Instagram if you want to see more of this cat's work. Definitely hit like a real champion. And, I mean, it's sitting on the table with some pretty serious glass from... I know there's four motherships on the table here. We've got the little stack low, which is just real nice little unit here. These hit great. I don't know if you guys remember from our Whistler trip with DNA.

9:15BubblemanWe had Aaron from DNA, Matt, the great gardener, Flav421, and Christian came by, and he had that little stack low. He also had this little, what is this, a Dosa?

9:24SpeakerUranium, rainbow ready.

9:26BubblemanDosa, uranium, rainbow ready. Ridiculous. Sexy. Right? That thing is sexy. Dude, you would hit the shit out of this, Joshua. Oh, I'll tell you, it's weird every time you pick up a piece of glass and it's worth like 10 grand. How about this little mothership?

9:50HoratioNice little... That is a nice blue ball. Isn't that nice?

9:58BubblemanWhat color is that?

10:00JoshuaEquinox.

10:01BubblemanYeah, I was going to say, I don't know, and then the owner said, Equinox. It is Equinox.

10:06JoshuaEquinox. Who makes that color?

10:11SpeakerI've never seen it. It's like a one-on-one mothership poll.

10:14BubblemanYeah, it's a one-on-one mothership poll, so I mean, Scott Deppie would probably be the man to answer that question. Probably some random color that he fucking bought from aliens or some shit. Welcome, Matt the Great Gardener.

10:27MattMorning, everybody.

10:30BubblemanWelcome back. You got the, what's the look? Rob Clark had that look, the emperor. The emperor. Yeah, Rob had his hoodie on one time. Now Tony's got it too. A couple of emperors in the house. This is how it goes in Hash Church. If I had a hoodie, I'd be empering out.

10:47MattWhy do you have Hash Church at 9 in the morning?

10:55JoshuaIt's only nine on the west coast.

10:57BubblemanCome on. Here, this is what Borrowheads had to say about that. Got weed? Got a hair straightener? Oh my goodness. Anyways. Well, I've never seen anything grow as fast as rosin. I'm over at these guys' house and nine times out of ten these guys would have just had Oil, what is this?

11:21HoratioPurple Kush.

11:23BubblemanPurple Kush, where's your rosin? That is the rosin. This is the rosin? Okay, great. So look at this. These guys would normally only have oil.

11:29SpeakerYou didn't even know if it was shatter or rosin. That's funny.

11:32BubblemanBecause he's always got oil, and look how much he's got.

11:34SpeakerOh, my God.

11:37BubblemanThat's a lot. They made this last night, dude. That's a lot. Is it purged yet? Do they have to purge it?

11:44SpeakerIs it purged?

11:45BubblemanIt is purged, bro. Purged through the 25 micron screen, twisted, fucking squeezed, and melted.

11:53MattWhere are you? Whistler?

11:54BubblemanI'm in Whistler, yeah. Tosh, my son's having his last day of ski school today, so I came up, and I'm not at Devin's house today. I'm actually over at Nate Cirque. Nate Cirque and Wins are in the house, boys. All right. The boys. And so the glass is heady.

12:19JoshuaLet me tell you. Holy cow. Oh, man, we're going to have to bust out some pieces over here too, man. I think you should, bro.

12:27BubblemanPut some heat on the table. Dude, you guys got the heat. Let me just pick up this tiny little bit of hair that I dropped.

12:38BubblemanThis can smoke my dry sift as well.

12:41HoratioSmoked.

12:43BubblemanOh, I also owe a little jar of bar. There we go. All right, if we're showing off hash, what do we got there? What do you got, Joshua? Look at Joshua.

12:53JoshuaThat's some nice full melt sour diesel I found.

12:56BubblemanFive star or six star? It's five star. Beautiful. See how honest he is? You see how he goes?

13:04JoshuaFor only $45, you don't usually get a five star out of the $45, you know?

13:09BubblemanTrue. I have a little bit of this bubble, the Master Kush. It is eight years old.

13:22BubblemanEight-year-olds, dude.

13:25HoratioEight-year-olds.

13:26BubblemanThis is Michael Jackson's favorite hash right here.

13:31BubblemanWe call this shit the Jackson 5. It's the Jackson 8, actually.

13:38BubblemanWe know Michael Jackson likes about 28-year-olds, eh? There's 20 of them. That's right.

13:46JoshuaAll right. Ash Church, been full swing already. Yeah, fucking right, dude. You got to start and have your time. I wanted to get to a question that someone was asking on the YouTube chat. They said, has anyone tried to rosin BHO yet?

14:03BubblemanI've seen it already. I thought it was a joke, but I see it.

14:06JoshuaIs that like a quick purge process? So you don't have to purge it? You just rosin it right out of the... It sounds dangerous. I don't know.

14:18MattIf it's not purged enough, it may explode. Okay.

14:23JoshuaWell, I mean, if you think about it, though, your sister, you know, puts... Hairspray in her hair. Oh, wait, I guess they put that on after they use the straightener, so it's less of a flammable day.

14:33BubblemanHey, on that note, I watched a movie last night called The Wedding Ringer, and there's a scene in that movie that is so funny, I won't give it up, but it involves hairspray and someone literally igniting on fire.

14:47JoshuaOkay, okay.

14:49BubblemanBrilliant scene. Brilliant. All right, we're hitting the Taurus with the Corey Cottenham drop-down and the silicon carbide nail.

15:02JoshuaI guess I have to go get D-Nail, bring it out here.

15:08HoratioYeah.

15:13BubblemanIt's not even big enough, dude. Can you imagine that? This one needs to be turned up because the heat's a little low. We can do that, though. We have the power.

15:24HoratioWe got the technology.

15:26BubblemanWe got the technology. Oh, yeah, wow, that just went from, like, That went up 100 degrees in about a quarter of a second. Dabinator representing. We've got our Dabinator and our D now lit up on the table with many torch bowls. We've got the Taurus, the Egg, the Straight Fab, the AK, the little mini ball rig, the Stacklow, the little Dosa, the Marcel. And this one that I always keep forgetting the name of.

15:58BubblemanWhat kind of recycler is this? He's also got literally the smallest fucking mouthpiece ever on this piece.

16:03SpeakerIt's called a Dutchie, Dutch Decycler, Dutch Pump.

16:06BubblemanA Dutch Pump. Yep. That's pretty cool. Function Town. Function Town. I'm all about the function. I think that's why Mothership really stole the show with... With the level of, their proto is insane. Like they took proto. It's like the equivalent, Tony, when I was saying about, hey, you want to turn your B-roll into A-roll. Remember that in Jamaica when I showed that guy about the Taurus 240 frames per, you know, done super slow motion water test?

16:50BubblemanI was telling a videographer guy in Jamaica that if he wanted to make his B-roll A-roll, That he should come film these pipes in slow motion with the Caribbean Sea in the background, which, funny enough, Tony, we didn't even do. It's how it goes sometimes.

17:06SpeakerWhat are you saying we didn't actually do?

17:09BubblemanWell, remember the video of my Taurus on the deck, water turning? Yeah. Okay, well, we should have done that in Jamaica with the Caribbean Sea behind the pipe.

17:24SpeakerOh, yeah, yeah.

17:26BubblemanRight, on the sand or like whatever. Yeah.

17:32SpeakerWe did do it in Jamaica, we just didn't do it on the beach.

17:38SpeakerThat is right. I don't even know what I have here, but I know it's really good. Well, it looks see-through, completely white. Completely see-through and white. It's my BHO rosin. It's my BHO rosin. What do you need? I'm kidding. For that one, I actually don't know. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but it's definitely something that I put together. It's some kind of clear rosin that I put together and I put it in my refrigerator and forgot about it.

18:08SpeakerOh, yeah. Awesome, because when you find those little things, you're like, oh, I feel like smoking.

18:12BubblemanI got some terps from Horatio Delbert. Uh-oh. He's terpified me. I've never done anything with him because I feel like I... It's such a crazy thing to even, like, I feel like he lent them to me more than he gave them to me. Every time he gives me something, I feel like he lends it to me because I just know that he doesn't have, like, lots of it.

18:34BubblemanAnd I always feel bad, but at the same time, people really like seeing it, so thank you for letting me show this to people.

18:42SpeakerA lot. It's a lot. What's the little thing inside it? Is that made out of glass or plastic? That was when you guys went to Jamaica. I jammed a little bit of Pineapple Express into a perfume sampler. And I asked the lady, I'm like, this perfume sampler, the top is plastic. Plastic is plastic, and there's no such thing as a glass top. And I went through the history of all the perfumes I knew, and I'm like, wait a minute.

19:12SpeakerAll samplers have that bit. So she didn't know the answer if it was PTFE. Um, but it doesn't look likely. I've never seen black PTFE, so I'd assume it's plastic, but it's never degraded so far in that small vial size.

19:27BubblemanMaybe with perfume, because they just spray it on their bodies, it's not really an issue.

19:33SpeakerThat's kind of, it was this for that smelling of it, then smoking up the town at this point.

19:39BubblemanLook at you, Tony, with the happy family, rocking the girl and the dog.

19:44SpeakerYou're funny. So... Yeah, there's not a lot of turps left in here. I got some.

19:50BubblemanHey, we all have turps.

19:51SpeakerYou got to keep them in a nice little vial, and then on the bottom side, there are special types of ones that you can buy.

19:59MattLike this.

20:00SpeakerCorrect.

20:01MattLet me check.

20:02SpeakerThat's what you want to get.

20:05MattSo these are, yeah, you want it exactly like which we're all holding. So stinks, man. I'm telling you, it stunk up my whole house for days.

20:14SpeakerDid you do it with your distillation thing?

20:16MattYeah, yeah, here's the latest one I just did. And you can sort of see I haven't yet taken the top off, but this stuff is just super clear.

20:27SpeakerYeah, that's a lot. Did you boil this?

20:30MattNo, this is actually sour diesel.

20:34SpeakerDid you boil through it?

20:37MattYeah.

20:38SpeakerOkay.

20:39MattWell, I don't know, boil, simmer. We try to sort of keep it as low as we can. We don't try to like... Thank you for watching.

21:07MattSay this one does, because this one sort of sat out for a while, and I've actually frozen this one a couple times. The oil doesn't freeze, I'm just trying to get all the water out. Yeah, yeah.

21:20SpeakerAnd yeah, those temperatures have a lot to do with everything. But yeah, this last one I did was strawberry banana turps. Nice. And that's what came out to that white live resin that I posted before, the white stuff. Super loud. But yeah, I've been fine-tuning that because when I first started, and I see a lot of people doing this distillation, it can certainly leave a boiled popcorn, some kind of burn smell sometimes, you know?

21:58BubblemanWell, that's the trick with telling people what not to do instead of telling them what to do. It's much easier to tell people what to do so they know what to do than to not tell people what you're doing and then have to have them sort of guess and sort of... Well, I've always said I don't distill. Oh, yeah, no, I know. I'm just saying in general, with the cocaine process, aside from the people are...

22:23BubblemanI mean, there's hydrodiffusion. That's a method. You can Google Hydro Diffusion. We talked about it a little bit last week. It's kind of a steam distillation sort of inverted version that I guess...

22:35SpeakerI would say that's the closest thing that you've come to talking about that I do.

22:38BubblemanYeah, well I don't even know... You've told me what you do and I have to admit I don't know what you do. I even showed you a picture of my... I still don't know what you do, dude, at all.

22:48SpeakerI actually did it in front of four other people last week and they still don't know what I did. Exactly, that's what I'm saying.

22:54BubblemanAnd this is the thing that Horatio comes up with constantly when people are like, oh, just tell me what you're doing. And he's like, oh, okay, well, you know, it's a four-year course. If you study for five days a week, you should be pretty good at the end of the four years to understand the beginning of what you need to fucking do. So he gets this endlessly.

23:15BubblemanPeople are like, come on, dude, just show me how to do it, man. I'm like, fuck, it's a tech. I want to learn. It's like, ooh, well, then just don't take the chemistry class.

23:23SpeakerI'll give you this. Yeah, I'll give you this because Horatio knows this. Every strain is going to have a different type of extraction process because every type of profile or terpene profile will want to change and it will change at different temperatures as well as cured. Like I had the Lemon OG from October last year, remember? It's a Lemon G13 and so after six months of curing that out, Now all you taste is G13.

23:59SpeakerSo it started like the first profile lemon and then when you cured it and waited six months and did it in these kind of long-term cures, then you can actually change the profile of the terpenes while you cure them. And so the same thing can happen inside a product.

24:16BubblemanSure. I guess that goes right back to the fact that these are volatile. Substances, and that even though you're not exposing them to heat in your mind, like the way you would through a steam distillation, which was going to change the molecule, it's going to change the terpene. They change. And so, it's still happening at room temperature. They're evaporating. That's why we can smell them.

24:39SpeakerI am proud that Matt's got a giant pile of terpene, though.

24:44BubblemanDude, look at Hash Church, man. It's blowing up the information. It's like, Four people in church held up Terps today.

24:57BubblemanOh, Jen Doe's going to come in in a bit.

24:59SpeakerI'm going to be right back because my dog's going bananas, and she almost ruined my first Dabs Over Denver. I'm trying to edit, and she barks every 30 seconds, so I have a new program for her. So let me take her out. I'll be right back.

25:11BubblemanYeah, dude. That's awesome. I've... I've had that experience myself on a multitude of occasions with filming and my dog barking and then kind of being mad and then just being like, you know what, just bark if you need to bark. Or my neighbor with his bandsaw. Every time I go out and film a video, if it's sunny, my neighbor's bandsaw is definitely getting lit up. I think he just runs it on a remote control.

25:33BubblemanAnd then watches the videos after and just rolls on the ground.

25:43MattMaybe not. I woke up to my cat on top of me.

25:48HoratioOh no.

25:51MattAs I picked up the cat running outside, pukes all over the floor and stuff. I'm like, no. Jesus. Fucking cat.

26:00BubblemanHardwood floors though, right?

26:02MattHardwood floors, so not too bad.

26:04BubblemanNot too bad, not too bad at all.

26:05MattPuke is puke, really. Just got to really make sure you get in the cracks and get it all out.

26:12BubblemanWell, what I found about puke when it gets into the cracks is after a couple of nice days, it usually hardens and you can scrape that puke right out with a nice little dabber.

26:21HoratioTerrible.

26:24BubblemanIt mostly works on cat puke, but... Hey, what about this guy?

26:32MattNice.

26:38SpeakerHe is not feeling that.

26:40BubblemanDude, you were so excited when I first got here. Remember how excited you were?

26:44HoratioYou were all jumping up and like, woohoo, this is amazing, I'm super happy.

26:48BubblemanNow you're just lazy as fuck.

26:51HoratioIt's all good. You can be lazy. I'm Ash Church. You got a heady pendant around your neck?

26:57SpeakerCheers, dude.

26:59BubblemanYou want to go represent the Melts today? Woo!

27:08MattWhat time is it? Time for a bowl. 9.30.

27:13BubblemanIt's nice and early. It's why we still only have like a small variety of speakers. Aaron, of course, is celebrating his daughter's birthday. He won't be in today. He said to say hello to everyone. Oh, I know what I didn't do that I completely forgot. Wow, no wonder.

27:35HoratioYou didn't?

27:35BubblemanWell, no, I forgot to invite Cuban.

27:38HoratioCuban, where is he?

27:49HoratioTodd.

27:52BubblemanOh, I forgot a lot of people today. It's fine. It happens.

27:55SpeakerIt's only 9.30. It's only 9.30.

28:00BubblemanRight? All right, there we go. That's done. Now we got to do the email. I'm going to take my mask.

28:09MattThe mask of Barb.

28:11BubblemanI think because Aaron wrote me and said he didn't need the email. I assumed that nobody needed the email and I kind of spaced the rest of the gents. So sorry about that, guys. 481 people watching Hash Church today. Thank you everyone for stopping in and checking us out. I'll check the chat out for a second. Yes, Cuban, I've just sent the text, the email to Cuban.

28:42BubblemanWhat are we talking about? What are we talking about? Johnny B, I sent him the link along with D420K. They all got the link this morning, I believe. I've sent it to them, so they should...

28:59BubblemanSometimes I find the group link doesn't work for everyone. Is this something other people have noticed?

29:06MattI had a couple problems last week linking in on some of those links.

29:11BubblemanYeah, it's weird. It seems like if I send them all independently to people that they'll get them. But if I send them sometimes in a group, and this is like actually created a little bit of a mess over the weeks with Hash Church. I thought I didn't send them the link on purpose and I was like, listen, I'm not trying to keep anyone out of hash. Everyone's welcome.

29:34BubblemanIt's just obviously we're looking for inspirational stories for people to, people are watching to learn. They're watching to get turned on to new things. They want to learn. So they're basically like, if it's about growing, if it's about nutrients, if it's about the earth, if it's about the strains, the genetics, the phenos, if it's about Hash making, the processing of the resin or even down to how you finalize it, whether you extract it using coconut oils or whether you, you know, terpene extractions, whole plant extractions, all different sorts of solvents and non-solvents from rosin and dry sift and wet wash. People are interested in this stuff and everyone's at a different level and it seems like Google is only so effective for people to find the information they're looking for in this sort of Deep, vast sea of bunk, bunk information.

30:26MattThere's a lot of bunk information.

30:28BubblemanOh, dude, it's kind of a bummer.

30:33SpeakerI got a Steam question for you, because I noticed with everyone who's doing Steam processing, what do you do with your weed after? Is it destroyed? Because I've always kind of looked at it from a spinach perspective that you get way more yield than I'll get of my, you know, you could say hyper rare terps. And I was like, God, it seems like they have so much terps to give around.

30:58SpeakerAnd like I have a bottle, I've just lost it, of what I labeled burnt terps because it came from the process of cooking oil and fractionally cooking it over into activated terps. THC. So I have a bunch of Mercy and I'm like, oh my God, this shit is so strong that it's like I could spread it out among 50 people. But I find with the light Terps, you can actually dab them and it doesn't affect you in the same way where I can't even touch this stuff.

31:29SpeakerIt's really more powerful, the steam Terps, because they seem to be a whole profile.

31:37HoratioInteresting. Sorry, I'm just kidding.

31:39MattWith me, with this one, with this one, the reason why this one is so light was because before I was adding about sort of five liters of water to the system, and then I sort of waited until I sort of about three, maybe four liters of water came out of it, and it really took time. And...

32:07MattWith this one, what I did is I put in seven liters of water and I probably stopped it when like three liters came out and it was really like the first hour. The individual that taught me the process, they were making lavender essential oil with it and they always said the same of, The first hour, the first, you know, it takes about 20 minutes for the steam to be created and then sort of that first hour would always be the best hour.

32:40MattThen after that, you know, A, it wouldn't produce and B, it's just a longer period of the heat, you know, reacting with the plants. But can you do something with it after? My answer to that would be probably yes. Just like water hash, I think even making water hash, that we could take the product after water hash and put it in the slow cooker and throw some butter in there and still you're going to get a fairly psychoactive butter, right?

33:17MattOr activated butter. And you do. Absolutely.

33:21SpeakerThat's what I was thinking of actually adding the fat to the steam distillation process because if it doesn't come over, you would literally be doing both processes at once and when you take off your goo, you're pretty much done. You would just essentially add the butter into that steam distill. Yeah. Because I have a steam distillation set and I've done it for years for essential oils like lavender.

33:46SpeakerSo I wondered, because I've seen where it's essentially your water is literally getting closer to the heating element. So it's really getting, it's hotter than it needs to be. And I thought that was what was destroying those terpenes over the course of a drip. Because I just watch it drip by drip. So I could see a degradation rate. So I started re-adding fresh water so that it was always living within maximum water.

34:10SpeakerSo I never really got near the product material. But are you doing it where you boil the material or are you doing steam injection?

34:19MattNo, it's like a chamber and in the bottom of that chamber there's probably like a good three to four inches of space. And then on top of that, there's a screen where all the plant material sits. And then it sits inside the chamber. So there's within that sort of four or five inch gap, that's where all the water is sort of boiling away and everything. So flame really isn't touching the material at all.

34:50SpeakerNo, but 221 to 230 degrees is. Yeah, exactly.

34:56SpeakerSo mine takes 15 minutes, by the way. I don't go past 15, 20 minutes. Just to give you an idea. There's a really cool thing that would give you a good idea that I don't really go like 30, 40 an hour. It's usually very quick, and it's almost like rosin. You squeeze it out. Let me see if I can find something to show you guys, something that might get your brain going.

35:19SpeakerIt has to do with water freezing and boiling within four seconds of each other.

35:34BubblemanThank you for watching.

35:49BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

36:12BubblemanI wouldn't be as inspired to make oil from a whole plant. You want to see a level of medicine when a guy like Horatio starts doing his delimiting extracts with 90 micron heads or 120 micron heads as his starting material. Not a whole variety of different variety of heads. The heads that There must be a value in our bioassay, in the way we love, what we love to do.

36:40BubblemanThe strongest lovers of this plant, the people that smoke seemingly the most of it, have this intimate relationship with it, are the ones who have surprisingly, not surprisingly, pushed forward the education and the information and the level of learning that, I mean, holy shit, doctors and scientists should know about this, not just a bunch of heads from like, you know, puffing in their parents' shed when they were 16.

37:03BubblemanIt's like Paul Stamets always impressed me when he gets up to speak and all the people in front of him have been to prestigious universities and they're like, thank you, I attended Harvard and I went to Yale, Jonathan Odd and all these brilliant, you know, psychedelic visionary minds and then Paul Stamets gets up there and he's like, everything I learned, I learned from the mushroom. Boom! Standing ovation.

37:25BubblemanHe hasn't even fucking said more than a sentence. It's like, that's what I'm talking about. There is a lot to be said in the learning of Of this plant by inhaling it and consuming it.

37:46SpeakerLet's see if Matt's on the chat. That's not the best sample, but I just posted a little YouTube one.

37:52HoratioSee that little link I just sent you?

38:04BubblemanLet me check. It's in the chat there? Oh, yes.

38:06SpeakerI see it. You can actually boil water under a vacuum. You just change that pressure. You can actually freeze it as well. I just wanted you to see something that would maybe spark your brain.

38:25SpeakerBrain spark? Good. Totally. Let's see if I got another one. I think I found it, actually. Hold on. This is a better one. Let me see. Did you find the one with the ice breaking? Yeah, that's the one I'm looking for. It boils and then it breaks. Yeah, that's the one he needs to see. Okay, here's another one. Yeah, this one's not the one I wanted to show you, but it's also, it still works.

38:52SpeakerIt goes from regular water to boiling to ice. And it's kind of a do-it-yourself kind of apparatus too. It's pretty hilarious. It's got like a whole bunch of like, Glue all over the top lid. It's pretty funny.

39:14BubblemanFor some reason, the chat's not working still for everyone because apparently Johnny B hasn't... Wasn't Johnny B in here already?

39:23SpeakerI was going to say, like, the panel seems pretty light today. And I actually was supposed to have a bunch of people come over, so it's like, did we wake up at a different time or day or something?

39:33BubblemanNo, it's just the emails and everything maybe. I don't know if Cuban got the message. Jen Doe says she's got a special guest that she's bringing in here in a little bit, but they're having problems getting in on their computer. I know David Allen's been having problems with his computer for the last several months, I guess. He's missed the last six or seven hash churches at least, which is unfortunate because he's...

39:59SpeakerIt looks like Aaron, his birthday is today, so he's taking time with his family and his kids and stuff.

40:05BubblemanYes, exactly. Oh yeah, Darren says he's going to be on soon. Yeah, we shouted out Aaron earlier on. He sent me this picture of him and his daughter.

40:15SpeakerAww.

40:21SpeakerShe looks just like him. It's hilarious.

40:23BubblemanMarley!

40:25SpeakerYeah, she's cute.

40:27BubblemanAwesome. Good folks. Good folks.

40:30SpeakerHe said that he was going to come on the show?

40:33BubblemanNo, no, he said to say hi to everyone and that he was going to do the birthday thing, his birthday and then Marley's birthday.

40:39SpeakerYeah, I was going to say.

40:41BubblemanMy daughter's birthday is tomorrow as well.

40:45SpeakerWell, happy early birthday, daughter. Oh shit, that means my daughter's birthday is tomorrow.

40:52BubblemanYeah, that's exactly what that means, Horatio.

40:55SpeakerWait, I sent her to Fan Expo something last week. I think I already did everything I need to do, sort of.

41:02BubblemanNo, you didn't. Trust me.

41:09BubblemanFourteen, right?

41:11SpeakerYeah, and, you know.

41:13BubblemanDude, how true is that? You and I, okay, what time was your daughter born at?

41:17Speaker147 East Coast.

41:21BubblemanWow, okay, so my daughter was born at like 12-something or 11-something West Coast. So we were literally both doing the same thing 14 years ago. It's interesting.

41:38SpeakerAbsolutely.

41:40BubblemanAnd we both got blessed with beautiful girls.

41:49SpeakerOnly a few years to go, I used to, well, in my case, I start to notice, because I'm like, if she's like me, she could, you know, find an older guy and take off at 19.

42:00BubblemanA spaceship for every garage.

42:06BubblemanDude, look at that. Look at these guys in the room. Damn straight, Marcel. Here, here, look, we'll represent. Ahhhh. Marcel, Jen Doe. Yeah!

42:23SpeakerThat is ridiculous, bro.

42:24HoratioFreaking sweet, man! Yeah, that's very nice. Light it up! Light it up, Marcus! All right, all right. Let's light it up.

42:33BubblemanThat's just water, don't worry. We're lighting it up.

42:37SpeakerHow much does that one cost, if you don't mind me asking? Just curious.

42:42BubblemanOh, I could get you one of these. Fuck, I could get you one of these pretty cheap, man.

42:46HoratioOkay.

42:52BubblemanI know the guy, man. I know the guy that makes these.

42:58JoshuaThat's a pretty sick water bong.

43:01SpeakerSo it's that expensive, you can't tell me? Pretty much.

43:05BubblemanI mean, Marcel is in the room. What would a piece like this sell for, Marcel?

43:11SpeakerWhat, right now?

43:12BubblemanYeah, like right now, today. Hey!

43:19BubblemanThey didn't even know. That is so awesome. That's ridiculous. What's up, Eugene, Oregon?

43:28SpeakerFuck yeah. Sorry, we were having sound problems. We couldn't get our speakers. So we saw you saying stuff to us, but we couldn't hear you.

43:39BubblemanDo you know how clueless I am, Jen, that even though I've been looking at the pictures of you over there with those guys, that when you said I have a special guest, I still had no idea who you were going to come into the room with.

43:53HoratioThat's impressive.

43:54BubblemanGood to see you, brother.

43:58SpeakerGood to see you. Yeah, this Hash Church thing seems pretty awesome.

44:03BubblemanWell, you know what, it's definitely, it's about a lot of things that you're about, dude. It's definitely like this really unique way of somehow using the thing that most of us don't really feel is a big deal, which is like who we are. Like I'm sure you don't wake up in the morning and you're like, look in the mirror and be like, yeah, I'm a legend.

44:26HoratioWe're good people.

44:27BubblemanIs that a girl thing? Yeah.

44:38SpeakerSome people do wake up in the morning and do that, but they're just not cool.

44:41BubblemanBut not the people that come and chat in Hash Church. If it's a matter of getting a great group of people from the scene, from the industry, from the community together, and to share information in a really inspirational way that things are moving in our community because of things that we talk about in this room. Every Sunday for three, four, five hours. And we're definitely not exclusive.

45:07BubblemanWe love to hear from new people. We were really, you know, touched and inspired by Anna's story with Jen last week. When we had Samantha come in, LV, she came in and that was an incredibly touching story. Welcome, Johnny B.

45:23HoratioFarther away from the Wi-Fi, which is already disconnected.

45:34BubblemanListen to these guys chatting away. They don't realize they're not on mute. I'm puffing a bowl. Look at this. We got the swing. We got the rosin. We got the torch. I got my little moss sail.

45:49MattI know the conversation steered away from Tony's question. I don't know if we could steer it sort of back there.

45:55BubblemanWhy not? Let's do it.

45:57SpeakerYeah.

46:02SpeakerI mean, that's a pretty big, heavy piece. Back when I made it, it was probably like $1,000 maybe, $1,500. What was going on?

46:12MattWhat was going on at the time that you made that? Like, when was it made and sort of what's the story?

46:18SpeakerI'd say that was probably made in like 2003 or 2004 with Dale. And so at that time, probably Dale was working on one bench and then there was Jason Lee and Chris Carlson. On the other two benches, let's see, it was Dale, Jason, Chris, down the line, and then myself. So that was the four benches in the main room. And those guys used to work for me for three days a month as part of the bench rental being there.

46:54SpeakerAnd everyone, and we would do these like excessive projects. But I think actually, now that I think about it, I'm just sort of time traveling here with you guys. As I think about it more, this piece predates that. And, uh, cause Dale's like my long time apprentice. Like, he's like, he's the guy I would call my apprentice. Not like, you know, I worked with him or some shit.

47:19SpeakerLike, he spent time and he worked for me long enough to, like, learn the skill set. Like, he can build a glory hole, he can Well, I taught him to weld. I taught him to fabricate. I taught him to think about glass. Like, if you present a glass task to Dale Summers, he can accomplish it, you know, and at least as good as I could. And that's like, you know, and that's hip time.

47:45SpeakerHe invested like five, ten years in that. And so that piece is part of a body of work that we made to upgrade the shop. So, like, selling that piece originally kind of represents some time that he set aside To like help us build equipment and stuff like that.

48:05SpeakerWe made like ten pieces in this one batch and he donated his share of all of them and bought a bunch of shit that we needed.

48:13BubblemanYou know, am I alone in thinking this? Because I know for sure... That Christian beside me right now didn't know a lot of that information. He's a very serious glass collector. It means a lot to him to know that. And I wonder when we're going to get to the point where pieces come with a bio. Where they come with this piece of information from the artist with these pieces of history that are truth.

48:40BubblemanThey're not going to be created by other collectors because they've been penned by the artist.

48:47JoshuaThat's what's exciting about getting to meet Marcel and Hash Church, for instance. You get to actually hear it from the horse's mouth, as it were. Right? There is some supposed history behind this piece here that is your oil sign.

49:07MattThat must be great for you to sort of see these pieces out in the world like that. I got to have a smile like that on my face too. Everyone's throwing up a big pot of Barbara Bud, right? That's awesome.

49:18BubblemanAs he sits there with his women.

49:25SpeakerWell, I mean, that's what pictures are, you know, they're like, they're elements of church, each of these pieces, because they're speaking points, and when you use a headpiece, you know, this is what I realized, like, many years ago when I started making thousand dollar pieces, and Mark, we've talked about this all over the years, that the real function of a headpiece is, like, social tool to, like, involve your friends and Share your experience, you know, and people use it on a variety of different levels of ranging from like straight up intimidation to just like, you know, sharing a like beautiful appreciation of art, you know.

50:07SpeakerLike when you present the experience of an over-the-top people class art, you like, you give it to somebody and they're like, oh my god, I'm holding my dream car in my hands, like, and if I drop it, I'm going to owe that. You know, and so it's like a, it's a totally like intimidating and then empowering experience because then when you get one of these pieces and it functions well and you have that full experience of hitting it, it like, you end up being like uplifted by this piece of glass and then there's the stories that get told around it.

50:40SpeakerAnd so, you know, what's beautiful about this is it's not really about like being right or even accurate in the stories. It's just about sharing the story in the first place.

50:51BubblemanWell, sharing the pipe is definitely what it's about, and I can tell you, you know, when I bought, when we traded number one, 1999, the octopus heady fish bubbler, I just, I smoked that piece with so many people, dude, like thousands of people.

51:13SpeakerLegends also. Are you talking about the one from Legends?

51:16BubblemanNo, this is a piece I got, I still have this piece. I got two pieces from Marcel in 1999, and they were both just, there was nothing like them at the time. I can truly say, like, they're just, I met Jason Lee maybe one year before I met Marcel, along with Marble Slinger, and those guys had incredible, beautiful, epic glass, but it was like Marcel, this bubbler, it was just, it was like, It was something that never existed that existed now, and you were just there tripping balls about it while it sat out on the table.

51:53BubblemanAnd I just remember being like, dude, come on, that's like fucking like 5G's Canadian, bro. Like, are you fucking kidding me? And it was like three hours later, I'm puffing it, like literally breaking it in with him because of, come on.

52:07SpeakerYeah, that was awesome.

52:09BubblemanYeah, it was, dude. And it continued to be awesome and does continue to be awesome every time I pull it out. I mean, I used to literally carry that around. Now, this is old school. With a giant cardboard box full of fucking peanuts. That was how I rolled with that piece on my front seat. I'd walk into my buddy's head shop with this big box. He'd be like, what do you got there?

52:33BubblemanI'm like, dude. Every time we pulled it out, the sun shined through. Even if you were in a room with no windows, the sun just came out of nowhere. It shined down on the pipe. The whole choir full of fucking angels were like... It was an amazing experience to share with people, truly.

52:54SpeakerSeeing you share that experience is part of what helped me realize what the true function of a headpiece was, and that we were building status symbols. Not pipes. The function had evolved beyond a pipe into this more than a pipe. Whether it's a status symbol, that's kind of a jaded way to view it. It's kind of like a movie. When we see a classic movie, and for Bubble Man and I, if we saw a movie that was from our generation...

53:25SpeakerIt would spark these emotions and these feelings and sometimes you'd be giggling at the weirdest things and people are like, what's wrong? And you're like, nothing's wrong. I've got all these crazy experiences and emotions I'm reliving. So what you're talking about is this super emotional connection that gives you a consciousness of memories that you're always going to remember just like a movie and they're triggers. Right. Right, and they become community triggers where, like, you know, a group of people smokes out of it, and then a whole group of people has this experience of, like, oh, remember that one time, like, when I took Fish 2000 to the fish show?

54:07SpeakerI mean, that was just such a, like... Cool group experience. You know, we brought that down there and we got to the show and there had been some sort of like legal action that had caused there to be like no drugs, especially weed, at this fish show. And I'm like, what the fuck? New Year's? No one has weed?

54:29BubblemanMarcel, let's start that story a little earlier because I believe it was a cathartic journey for you to get there and have the experience that you had because from my perspective, when you got to watch me with the number one piece just roll around and pop everyone down and be there, you were... You're a humble dude, dude. You're not like a fucking kind of a rock star guy.

54:50BubblemanAnd I'll never forget being at that fish show with you in Vancouver, holding that sick piece. I pulled that piece out, and people were just like, they were like moths to a flame. It was like every head in the parking lot just went, zoom, looking at the piece, and all their attention was on the piece, and they were like, who did that? And myself standing right next to me, and I'm like, He did.

55:17BubblemanAnd man, I'll never forget it. You ran away.

55:23BubblemanYou split. You totally like, oh, I'm not ready for this. I can't remember if we were high on mushrooms or not, but for you to get, I don't know, within a year to the Fish 2000 show with that piece that was like, I mean, I would say that you've never done a piece like it. Thank you. Thank you.

56:11SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

56:36SpeakerAnd everybody would look at it and be like, damn, that thing is ridiculous. And then everybody's like, what do I got to do to get that? You're like, okay, I've got some NL5, I've got some Pink Panther, AK-47. I was like, how much is that going to take? That's how those shows were. And the next thing you know, you're like, all right, so how much did I trade for all this stuff?

56:58SpeakerAnd you're like, all right, this is pretty good. And it was all about the bubblers then. And if you remember, I was like snogger ass and different groups were starting to come around. What year are you talking, Tony?

57:13BubblemanLike 97, 98, 99?

57:14SpeakerYep, right in that period. And this I kept. So we're talking about glass pipes that went around and around. So this is a little oney. That I have lost three, four times giving it to people. Someone else, I'm like, here, you can have a pipe. I never thought I'd see that person. Ten years later, I'm like, oh, wow, I found this in your car. Really? So this is a Jerome Baker, 98, maybe, 97, and I was like kind of bummed that I got it because I was trying to get a different heavy piece at the time, and they were like, who's Jerome Baker?

57:52SpeakerI'm like, Jerome Baker? And...

57:55BubblemanJerome Baker.

57:56SpeakerYeah, this is when he first started. He was an apprentice and he started kind of coming up with like little clear, you know, at that time. I also had this.

58:06BubblemanI met him in 95 in Amsterdam and he was blowing glass at the KGB, which was Adam Dunn's place called the No Good Buds, as in K-N-O-W, No Good Buds, because he had just closed the CIA, which was Cannabis in Amsterdam.

58:21HoratioYep.

58:22BubblemanJason was in the back blowing glass. I have video footage of him that year, and that was the same year that I met Marbleslinger, and it was the same year that I met Zach, his old roommate, who then I never saw again for three years until I literally picked him up hitchhiking on fish tour, and he was roommates with Zach Marbleslinger. How fucking weird is that?

58:42SpeakerYeah, that's crazy. That's right in the same time frame. But yeah, this was pretty interesting because I'll never forget it because there's little fish on it. There's a little fish on it. I don't know if you can see it from that particular thing. And then these are the two pieces that I have left, but I had crazy pieces that I don't even know what happened to them, to be quite honest with you, because it was that time period and you just... Yeah.

59:08BubblemanSometimes they go out into the world.

59:10SpeakerYeah, and then this is the other one I still have from back in the day. That old schooler. So this is actually a Bob Top Hat.

59:20SpeakerNice.

59:21BubblemanRight? My first pipe was one of his apprentices. It was a Hugh Grass, and I bought it back in 94, and I ended up selling it in Amsterdam in 95 the next year because this dude just basically wasn't going to have it any other way. It was wild. I was new to glass pipes. I was kind of like, oh, I don't know. I'll just have one. It's a Hugh Grass.

59:44BubblemanIs that a good one? He said, you need to sell that to me.

59:48SpeakerBut I would say that these types of shows, dead fish and different types of shows, especially the fish because that was in a time period where there was different technologies that kind of helped move forward. But I would say that the fish band itself and the tour really inspired this whole original movement of like super heady bubblers and glass that now lead us to...

1:00:17BubblemanI remember a guy on Fish Tour. I don't know if any of you guys remember this guy. He was just a reseller. He was a big, dready dude, and his name was Poo Sue. And he resold glass on Fish Tour back in like, I don't know, like 94, 95, maybe even as early as 93, 92. I didn't meet him until around 94, 95. He lives in Sebastopol.

1:00:40MattSarah put her hand up. Sarah's got an outdoor conversation.

1:00:47SpeakerI know a guy named Pooh from Vermont who is a total fish, diehard fan, was in, like, on the islands for a little while, kind of moving around.

1:00:56JoshuaPooh's New Fowler is his name. He has a shop in Sebastopol called the Uncarved Block. He has, you know, the towel of Pooh, the Uncarved Block. Nice. Nice. He's the homie. He's the homie.

1:01:10MattHe sells good shirts and rocks. Great, great. Funny, funny.

1:01:14JoshuaSay hi from...

1:01:16Soil GrownSay hi from the bottom.

1:01:21JoshuaYeah, we'll go up there and say hi to them soon here. Actually, we've got to go visit up north.

1:01:28BubblemanVery cool. We better send that link real quick. Koo 2. Yeah, all this glass memories. See?

1:01:45MattThat's great. Why not? How many guys is the name Pooh?

1:01:49HoratioRight?

1:01:50BubblemanFrom Fish Tour? You guys both know one?

1:01:55HoratioSmall world.

1:01:59SpeakerYeah, it is crazy how much the original situation was focused on Fish Tour. Because I met Alex's brother, Marty... And he came to Saturday Market where we used to sell glass on the courthouse steps, the federal courthouse steps in Eugene was the hot glass selling spot. And we would all sit down there and it was like this crazy scene of like apprentices and like, I mean, people were really like guarded about their knowledge at that time.

1:02:30SpeakerAnd so he came down there and everyone's like out on their rope. Like, showing off their glass, and I just happened to have made this, like, super janky, double-bubbling dragon thing. It was, like, only, like, three or four months in, but it was giant. I'd made it to celebrate getting a big kiln. And it was even cracked, but it was, you know, a foot and a half long and ten inches tall and just crazy compared to everything else out there just built.

1:03:00SpeakerAnd, uh, I went down there, I met Marty, and he was like, yeah, we're trying to, we already pretty much run Fish Lot, but we're looking to diversify or whatever, and I'm just like, alright, hit it up, and they hooked it up, and started just buying glass, and that was Alex, and he was doing the water wheel thing, and just like, man, he killed it. It was like, after I met Marty, every week, as much glass as we could send down, me and everyone I knew.

1:03:33SpeakerAnd that was really the beginning of it all. And we were doing stuff like we would book, at that time anyways, you could actually make a package and then watch the flight schedule and just book it on a certain flight. So we would just pick our flight and know that we were going to go to the airport at such and such time an hour before it left and pay $250 and put a box of glass on the flight and Alex would go to the airport just like he was picking up a person from the airport and pick up this box of glass.

1:04:06SpeakerAnd that was part of how we were able to like ship glass, you know, the last like thousand dollars worth of glass into the box to get to the show.

1:04:16BubblemanAnd you're talking about Waterwheel Alex?

1:04:19SpeakerYeah.

1:04:20BubblemanOkay, so you want to hear a trippy story that I have with him? All right. I've seen him at a mazillion fish shows, obviously, and talked to him many a times, and puffed bowls with him, but didn't really know him that well. Knew him enough to be like, recognize him. And so I'm in northern India at this holy festival called the Maha Kumbh Mela. I'm in this tiny little restaurant in a little town called Haridwar, which is very close to Rishikesh, where the Beatles went in the 60s.

1:04:51BubblemanIt's right in the foothills of the Himalayas, just, you know, right below Nepal. And so I'm sitting at this restaurant with my friend Alex, a different Alex. And he's sitting across from me at the table and there's literally like four tables in this place. So we're sitting there and we haven't yet ordered food and a couple walks in and they sit down. And so Alex, my friend, looks next to him at the girl that's sitting at the table and they're like, oh, Alex?

1:05:21BubblemanOh, so and so? Like, oh, I haven't seen you in so long, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They have this big long conversation. They traveled Asia for many years and they'd seen each other in many different countries throughout Asia. And so the dude that she's with is kind of like, whatever, and I'm like, whatever, and we look at each other and I look at him and I'm like, Alex?

1:05:44BubblemanAnd it's fucking Alex from Waterwheel. I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, he's like, he's like, Mark? I'm like, yeah, dude. I'm like, I don't think I've ever seen you, like, not at a fish show.

1:06:01BubblemanAnd we'd seen each other at quite a few fish shows. It was fucking weird, dude. Particularly that the, okay, we didn't know each other. Like, he didn't know my friend Alex, and I didn't know the girl that he was with. But the two of, the four of us would go into a little town in northern India and sit down at a table next to each other and both know each other, sitting next to each other.

1:06:23BubblemanIt was so fucking weird. And I call that the coincidence. Whenever I have strong coincidence in my life, there's some weird, like, in fact, that'll be coming up in three years because my cycles are usually 20-year cycles. So probably me and Alex are bound and destined to link up here in about three years in 2018. I don't doubt it at all.

1:06:49SpeakerThat is awesome. It is a cool, strange world that we live in. Watching this whole glass... Cannabis thing like Unfold and you know.

1:07:00BubblemanAnd sitting around talking about it while 640 people watch live.

1:07:07SpeakerSay hi JJ.

1:07:09HoratioWhat up?

1:07:10BubblemanYeah. Are you making your rosin? What are you making it out of?

1:07:16HoratioThat looks darker than this one. It definitely is. It's multi-bag. What kind of hash? It's like a two bag.

1:07:22BubblemanLook at you guys go. Yeah. You guys are rosining up a storm over here.

1:07:27SpeakerI haven't even smoked any good rosin. I should have brought stuff to do ramen. Oh, look at this. I don't have a hair straightener. My girlfriend took her iron back from me. Oh, look at this. My kids took mine back from me. She goes, she goes, so what is it that you're doing with my hair iron? And I was like, Well, I'm removing cellulose of trichome heads and purifying to absolute perfection.

1:08:04SpeakerAnd then I'm terping on the weekends so I can earn some extra terps into my hash.

1:08:10BubblemanJust straight terping, eh?

1:08:12SpeakerAnd she goes, well, am I ever going to get it back? Because you've been using it nonstop for like the last month. I was like, well, it's a really nice ceramic one that goes like digitally under... Hey, Mark. Hey, what's up? What's up? What's up?

1:08:57SpeakerWhat's those guys using in your place there that you're doing that at for putting their hash in? I noticed they got a whole bunch of empty cases. 25 micron screen. They just cut it. They just cut it into pieces. Into pieces, okay.

1:09:14BubblemanYeah. A 25 micron like bubble now bag.

1:09:22SpeakerGood enough. Just curious.

1:09:25BubblemanYeah, man, welcome. Welcome Soil Grown as well. For whatever reason, Soil Grown and Darren both show up as gray for me. See that? Like if I don't have it clicked on his screen, I didn't even know Darren was in the room. He's gray, and look, he's gray. I see him flashing his rosin. Welcome both Darren and Soil Grown to the chat. Thank you. How's the rosinating going there, buddy?

1:09:51Soil GrownOh, it's going good, man. I've actually probably put out some of the best flavors I've put out in this last couple weeks on the flower rosin. Getting the temps dialed in. Oh, yeah.

1:10:03SpeakerWhat's your favorite temp?

1:10:05Soil GrownI like to play around 300. There you go. If I go a little lower than that, honestly... I don't notice too much of a difference in the taste on the smoke, but I notice a lot more sappy product. I don't know why it is that the heat's creating more of a stable product to me.

1:10:22BubblemanWhat about the moisture that would be added to the heat? Did you hear that? No.

1:10:34BubblemanThe moisture level, because I think temperature is very important, but temperature must also be connected to moisture level, at least if using bud, because a lot of people are having problems. I think it has to do with bud that's too dry and irons that are too hot or not hot enough.

1:10:52Soil GrownWell, with overly dried product, I've had, that's where I've had my more stable product, like where I get more stable rosin with the overly dried bud rather than like a bud with the good moisture content that's been dried and cured well, you know? And that is, do you just break that into powder and wrap it in a screen in a little ball, cheesecloth or something? No, no, the bud, I like to smash it down first so it's already like dense, you know, you're making the bud to the densest form.

1:11:23Soil GrownI tried, I tried, uh, I grabbed the car, I threw it in the 25, and I pressed it. It was just, uh, it was like 7% off, and then I'm hitting the 18, you know? Shit.

1:11:39SpeakerThis is probably the most important part. He got scrambled. Did everyone hear him, or did everyone get scrambled?

1:11:48BubblemanHe got scrambled a bit, but I bet you it recorded nice.

1:11:53SpeakerWell, yeah, I think it's important to hire temperatures when you're doing bud. And what he's talking about is taking dry bud and compressing it really dense and then wrapping it in a 25 and then pressing it and then having that really, really dense ball because essentially your surface area of what you're working with is greater and increased. So it makes a lot of sense on that angle.

1:12:18SpeakerSo it's like taking one bud and putting it in a screen and then smashing it That's the surface area of an actual bud, so you're only really looking at that surface area of that. What you're doing is you're actually taking the surface area of everything broken down, kind of like we used to do old school with a coffee grinder. You break it down and compress it, and now you have a lot more surface area to squeeze out of.

1:12:41SpeakerAnd 300 seems to work really good with flowers. I try to just do stuff on lower temperatures with hash.

1:12:50Soil GrownYeah, I would agree with the lower temperatures on the hash. I don't think it's necessary to have as high of a temperature with the hash.

1:13:00SpeakerI've been pressing bud solid every day ever since I learned this. So I'm really being played with a lot of the different temperatures, what you're saying. So I find like 290 really works well. I find different strains are squishing out differently too. It's really...

1:13:17Soil GrownYeah, that's a big factor. Is it strain dependent as well?

1:13:21SpeakerYeah, 100%. And I've dialed down strains with strains that weren't pressing out or gone up hot or pressed a little bit longer. I always wait. Like when you said, you always wait for that little, when you hear it steaming, you hear that little puff of smoke. That's normally when I know I'm going to get something. But it's definitely, I mean, dialing it in, I just went and pressed this out in like seconds.

1:13:43HoratioIt takes really time.

1:13:45SpeakerInstant dabs. It's instant. I mean, it's like right there. It's like, and that's two and a half years.

1:13:53HoratioIs it time for ball rig dabs? Pardon me?

1:13:58BubblemanIs it time for ball rig dabs? Ball rig dabs.

1:14:01SpeakerBall rig dabs. How high have you guys brought the pressure in this process? Have you experimented with like thousands of pounds of pressure and lower, lower heat? Not yet. That's what I would like to.

1:14:16Soil GrownSome people are pressing with two tons.

1:14:21SpeakerRight, so is that allowing the temperature to go way down? Yeah.

1:14:27Soil GrownSomeone I was talking to said they were pressing at 145, I believe.

1:14:34SpeakerUh-huh.

1:14:36Soil GrownAnd they're pressing with two tons on their pneumatic press, so... I mean, it's, but it's with hash, so I haven't really messed around with that low of temps with the hash. I've been working more on the flour rosin lately, but they're having effective results, good quality material, clean, pressing through the screen, and on their pneumatic press too, it's a small, it's a small little heating pad, so when they press the hash, the oil oozes off the side of the heating element to the coolest point, you know, onto the parchment paper, so they're collecting it and it's cooling immediately.

1:15:10Soil GrownSeems to be effective, but it's still only effective to the average consumer who's going to produce the dabs for themselves.

1:15:17BubblemanRight. Ah, the dabs for themselves. On that note, Equinox Colored Mini Ball Rig Rosin Rips.

1:15:30SpeakerBall Rig Diesel Rosin.

1:15:37Soil GrownMikado Rosin.

1:15:44SpeakerAll rig, inverted design, and sound blast. Ween. Ween. Ween.

1:15:53MattThat's good. Bowl rip, tranquil unity.

1:16:08HoratioBeautiful.

1:16:15SpeakerThat added to my bar grip. Thank you.

1:16:18BubblemanI thought there was some weird feedback there for a second. I was like, what? This is church. We can do whatever we want.

1:16:38HoratioSilence.

1:16:45SpeakerYes, the rosin has definitely been a game changer.

1:16:52SpeakerI've been finding I've been mixing a lot of the flavors and having a lot of fun that way, so.

1:16:57Soil GrownYeah, I do that occasionally. I don't really like to do it too much. You know, it seems to be like you mix one really great flavor with another great flavor and it's just not as great as those two flavors when they're separate.

1:17:12MattYeah, you get that too.

1:17:14Soil GrownDepends. Sometimes, yeah.

1:17:16MattSometimes they're better.

1:17:18Soil GrownYep. It's better alone.

1:17:22SpeakerYou know what I really like the flavor of is that barb.

1:17:26Soil GrownThat's what I like the flavor of. Right. Has anyone done any flower rosin on the barb?

1:17:33MattOf course. It's already got its own name. It's called barbson.

1:17:40JoshuaThrow another barb on the rosin.

1:17:46MattIt changes it, though. When you make the barbs, I got to the point now where I prefer just the dry sift and the water hash. It's still great. It's still fantastic. But I think in the end, the most sought after product will just be the raw, raw form, right? The moment you put that heat to the bud to make that rosin, you're taking that first essential terpy hit away.

1:18:24MattLike every time now I make rosin, it's like, oh, I could have just put that in the denail and could have been inhaling the moment that heat has been added to it. So for me anyway, I think it's great. I think it's fantastic. I've been messing around with all the old hash and stuff I have. But for me, what I'm seeking is that sort of maximum terp within the natural.

1:18:53MattWhat's that?

1:18:55Soil GrownNo denying the loss in terps.

1:18:56MattYeah. But it's, yeah, for the person at home that has a couple buds that wants to have like a dab, I think it's genius for sure.

1:19:13MattJust because like Johnny Johnny, I'd be interested in your sort of opinion now that you're making the rosin. So you have essentially what? Dry sift of MediHaze, water hash of MediHaze, and rosin of MediHaze, 99 dry sift, and probably rosin made from the 99 dry sift. Which do you prefer? How much does it change? Do you notice the change to the direct high that it causes you?

1:19:40SpeakerOkay, so I have three different... The dry sift, it's got all the turps, but it's a little bit more, I would say, I get a little bit more irritation from that, but I get more flavor. Now, when it comes to the rosin, I get abundant flavor, really... Thank you so much for joining us.

1:20:24SpeakerBefore when I used to clean the heads when Mark completely cleaned it for me and it was 99.9, I always say he got rid of that raunchiness for me, right? So I always found that it's, that's just kind of how I'm feeling right now about it, right? That's my opinion. So you're getting the best of everything. So right now I'm able to choose, but overall, I like the dry sift.

1:20:46SpeakerI mean, that's my favorite, right? That's what I really, really go for. That's what I run on the first. And then the rosin now takes place with the bubble. Now I'm just getting into squishing the bubble. I haven't really been playing with the temperatures. I'm waiting for all you guys to do it. So I'll be following what's going on with the hashes and how you're pressing out the cysts before I start diving into mine.

1:21:07SpeakerBecause I don't have a lot of it, but I do have all these little piles of it. So now that I'll be able to start dialing that, and I'll be able to really start having some fun. So yeah, it's definitely a lot of learning. And you'll be able to rosin the buds. The bubble and the sift because I know I got the one six. I got a bunch of different grades of sift too.

1:21:26SpeakerI got what's under the 73 and what's on top of the 73 screen. I've done school that yesterday. It's 73 screen. It's great.

1:21:42SpeakerDid you hear me, John? I said, you said you just started with the 73 and I said, yeah, I'm waiting for you to, uh, I'll learn from what you start squishing with all the dry stuff because you've got all the different grades. I know you've got lots of them. Well, I've got probably 15 plates full of the stuff from underneath the 73 and stuff that I saved on the side from after the static treatment with the game and the parchment paper.

1:22:12SpeakerAnd then I've got a pile of the stuff left over from that that's on top of the screen but dirty as hell. And underneath. And I've, I've used that stuff yesterday with my hair press. And holy shit, man, like, this, all this, all of this is what I'm looking at is, as, not trash, because it's good for coconut butters and salves and all that kind of stuff, tinctures, but now it's, it's not, it's, it's, it's taking that trash now and turning it into stash and, and being able to use my, uh, My full dry sift, like the full nice melt, tasty flavored terps in that, and just be able to smoke it like that, or use it in medications a lot better than, and rosining under the 73 and getting killer results from that and being able to use that instead of the raw form.

1:23:08SpeakerUse the raw form for better medicine.

1:23:11MattSo has anybody else noticed the color variation between sort of Uh, rosinating like old, or second, third hashes versus sort of 99s, right? Like I did the, I did the, the barb the other day. Actually, no, it was, uh, we were, uh, we did, uh, uh, I forget what it was. CBD Hayoma, the CBD Hayoma, right from just, uh, destocking. Single screen, but still melty as melty, and it pretty much came out clear, but if I do the older seconds and thirds, it comes out a lot darker.

1:23:48MattIs that going to be the, you know, you can tell what grade somebody rosinated by the color of it?

1:23:57SpeakerMaybe.

1:23:58MattI probably haven't done enough of it to really figure that out, but I just wonder if anybody else has seen that.

1:24:03Soil GrownProbably eventually because you have a lot of people trying to make it that are hitting high temps, pressing it too long. So that could also take a part on what's darkening up the oils as well. I would say where you're going with that makes sense. As you start to get to the lower quality hash, that's going to take a play as well. I believe that will make it darken up.

1:24:32SpeakerI found like with the first, second, and third squishes, like on everybody's been squishing their buds, I find like it's the first squish is kind of like the first bounce, and then the second one it's a different color, it's a little bit less. The people who are even squishing the third time when they can, it's even darker again. So I think it's got a lot to do maybe with the heat and how long and the decarboxylation race in between all of that that's changing it.

1:24:56SpeakerIt'd be nice if we could start getting this tested. It would really be cool if we could start really looking at this.

1:25:01Soil GrownI sent out a lot of testing yesterday. Well, not a lot, but I sent out like a shatter version from a bud and then the flower rosin version. So those can be compared. Then I sent out a flower and then the flower rosin version. So those two can be compared. Then I sent out what I would say is one of my terpiest flower rosins. So we can see the terp percentage and the...

1:25:23Soil GrownYou know, the total cannabinoid percentage and stuff.

1:25:27MattI have plans to put the barb dry sift, the barb whatever size micron, and I'll probably put in barb rosin made from both the dry sift and another one made from the water hash, and then we'll get the cannabinoid test done on those. See what's going on. Nice. And I might do it in triplicate, so get each one done three times just to sort of, you know.

1:25:55Soil GrownThat's how it needs to be, yeah.

1:25:56MattAnd let the lab know that, right? Well, maybe not let the lab know that because if they know that, then they might fudge it. For me, I like giving labs everything in triplicate because then at the end of the day, I can go back and say, listen, these are exact triplicate samples. Why are they off, right, if they're off?

1:26:14BubblemanHey, we should give a shout out to Shay Labs and Shay Labs Kids. Shay Labs just mentioned in the YouTube chat that he says that Hash Church is a family affair at his house. He blasts that shit all over while he does chores and his kids walk up to the screen every once in a while and are like, what the heck is this? They're like, hey, what's up kids?

1:26:35HoratioThis is education.

1:26:37BubblemanThis is sharing. Learning. Learning. It's just the freedom of ideas. It's the idea that maybe it's okay to come up with ideas and dialogue and put things out there rather than try to hold on to every little bit of information and sort of, I don't know, I just think that prohibition really took a A swift hit at us when we all accepted the game of hiding and deep connecting from one another.

1:27:03BubblemanAnd one of the most empowering things about the way the community is going now is that we're reconnecting. Well, we don't have to be afraid. We can like, you don't have to like, triple think all the times and like, oh, I don't want to be like on a picture or like see me smoking anything or it's just, it's just great to see the way it's come. It's just unfortunate that for so long we were fractions and unable to really access the full breadth of our power.

1:27:33BubblemanAnd there goes the bell. They're gone. Yes, pick up the heady bubbler.

1:27:44SpeakerHere, can you guys... Yep, check this out.

1:27:51MattOh, running on empty.

1:27:53SpeakerThis is a Kevin Nail, Eli Zygmunt, Kevin Nail, right? So Eli is Ez's brother, and Kevin is Ez's apprentice.

1:28:14BubblemanRight. I think I remember Kevin. I think that I have this random picture of all you guys one year in New York standing in front of a helicopter.

1:28:22SpeakerOh yeah, that was such an awesome, that's a great address, sorry.

1:28:27BubblemanIt's like, who's there? Yeah, like there's a lot of fun people in that picture.

1:28:33SpeakerYou have the picture?

1:28:35BubblemanI have it on my computer somewhere. Every once in a while I'll just be like, what the hell? Was Aaron there? Yeah, Aaron must have been there. That's how I got that picture. That's a beautiful picture.

1:28:47JoshuaHey, let's see that piece on the big screen. Say something, Marcel.

1:28:50BubblemanYeah, look at the bowl.

1:28:52SpeakerAll right. So yeah, this is a push-pull bum. So I guess you got to like, you know, melt into your buds or something. Or put a screen in it. Work well with the screen.

1:29:05MattCan't wait for that day.

1:29:06HoratioRight?

1:29:09SpeakerMatt, I think I have a little of that in my car I'm going to go find so I can show him your barb.

1:29:15MattOh, great!

1:29:16SpeakerLook at it! It worked! It worked! I'll show you guys this fume working here. This is, uh, I'm doing some new kind of with my, well, all my line work is made from canes, so I basically make, like, a small piece of color and encase it with a bunch of clear, and that's how I make my lines, because I just build tubes out of those canes. And, uh, so I've been experimenting with mixing up glasses in my furnaces that are, um, Thank you.

1:29:45SpeakerThank you. Thank you.

1:30:13SpeakerYellow, we call it extra light yellow, and that's to like a really creamy dark color. Like these tentacles up here are all made from that glass that I'm talking about. So in its pure form as an amber purple, treated the way these were, they would be like dark purple with a silver cream over the top of it. And it would kind of burn the cream off. You guys have seen it all over.

1:30:39SpeakerYou know, like Serendipity is amber purple over white. So this is just a much more dilute version of that that I home mixed in my own furnace. And I'm making the canes out of it. So if you see up here, there's sort of a veil of blue that looks like silver, or that is silver, around each of those black lines. And that's the fume effect. So it's really similar to Kevin's fuming, which is right underneath it.

1:31:05SpeakerThat's traditional gold and silver fuming. But it's all done in the glass, mixing it up in a pot.

1:31:14HoratioBeautiful.

1:31:17JoshuaUh, yeah. We're not worthy. We're not worthy.

1:31:21SpeakerTo say the least. Anyways, so yeah, I mean, that's the kind of, that's where the, I'm making some, you know, just looking for some things that'll look good opaque because I've had a lot of people asking for shrimp box lately. And, you know, I want some of that resin behind it. Hey, we have 666 viewers.

1:31:39BubblemanJust saying.

1:31:44SpeakerYeah, I got to see the whole process while I've been here, and it's fucking incredible.

1:31:52BubblemanYeah, that is pretty awesome that you are there.

1:31:57SpeakerWhat are you working on right now? Um, you know, right now I'm basically trying to keep my shop and property here for the summer. You know, all this stuff coming in with people coming to town for DFO and I want to host full situation for some super epic collabing. So I'm just kind of cleaning up the property and like studio set up for that.

1:32:27SpeakerWhy is everyone muted?

1:32:28HoratioI was just like, that's why I sighed, because I was like, dude.

1:32:32BubblemanYeah, so here's the thing. When you say, particularly you in particular, particularly, when you say super epic collabs, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's going to be super epic. What happened? Did it crash?

1:32:50SpeakerWell, hopefully it will be epic, but I mean, like everything I'm trying... Now, you know, it really wants to be like brought forth from the community and from people who want to support it. So, you know, it's going to be super epic and super awesome because a bunch of people are going to get involved and make it that way. So, you know, we're working on that, building towards that, and there's already a bunch of super awesome people involved.

1:33:21SpeakerJust saying. Cool.

1:33:26SpeakerJen, what are you working on? I've seen your picture. You're blowing some glass. What are you doing? You want to see my first project? Yes. So this is my first time ever on a torch. This is my little ice cube dabber. It's not off the stick. Hey, great one. Good job. That's my first project. Well, you made the tree, too. Oh, I made a tree, too, but... We should go get the tree.

1:33:58SpeakerYou get the tree, get the lady, too. I'm gonna go get the tree. Oh, we got the lady. Oh, we've been having so much fun. They were modeling for me. I'm like, they're like, make a naked lady. I'm like, oh, I don't know. I don't know if I've ever done that. So these guys were competing on making naked ladies, actually, because Jessica Boggs makes these... Whoa, hey now.

1:34:21SpeakerThat's sexy. Is what that is.

1:34:24HoratioJesus, look at the booty on that thing. Are you kidding me? What did you do on that?

1:34:30SpeakerNo, I didn't do anything on this. Jessica did. She did this whole thing. This is, if you ever see these.

1:34:36BubblemanWow, Jessica, that's incredible.

1:34:39SpeakerShe'll be right back. She went to go get my tree.

1:34:42BubblemanDamn, Jessica's just killing it, hey? Yeah. There's booty on that thing, too. Yeah. Perfectly.

1:34:48SpeakerShe even has a, well, there's family watching, never mind.

1:34:56BubblemanThat's how a family gets started.

1:34:59SpeakerSo we're thinking about doing a collab here. We're attaching her to the ice cubes, like so. Ice queen. Yes. She should take that. There you go. Like that. Boom. We can maybe even like bend her legs and have her sitting on top of it. Are those sunglasses? Honor, too? Nope.

1:35:26BubblemanThat was amazing. Okay. Hey, we were complimenting you on your glass, Jessica.

1:35:34SpeakerJessica, they love your glass.

1:35:37BubblemanLove it.

1:35:38SpeakerYes.

1:35:39JoshuaMore naked ladies. More naked ladies.

1:35:44SpeakerYay! Jessica is the naked ladies specialist. Look her up, Jessica Boggs. That's the boss class on Instagram? Yeah, she does epic work. So yeah, and this is my tree. This is actually my first project. The ice cube was the second one. Jen's very talented.

1:36:07BubblemanVery nice. Very nice. That's fun. I've never yet... So someone in chat said we need to get the viewers up to 710. So that would be about 24 more viewers, so... Go share that YouTube link, people that are watching, because we need 24 more of you.

1:36:28HoratioHow do you do that?

1:36:30BubblemanI don't know. You can go into the YouTube chat and copy and paste it and then put it up in some sort of social media.

1:36:40BubblemanNot the Google chat for the people that are in this particular chat. That's a private link, but the Hash Church chat, which I guess if you just punched in Hash Church to Google, 29, Roman numeral, I'm guessing it would come up. Indeed it does.

1:37:03BubblemanIndeed it does. Boom. Copy and paste. Here. I can put it in this room for those that may want to share it.

1:37:15MattHey, Horatio, have you ever dabbed your terps? Yes, I have.

1:37:20SpeakerI just, I mean, remember, I'm the lemony guy, so I was the one that warned against dabbing straight terps from the beginning, especially the more complex ones. The complicated ones burn. The light ones don't seem to burn as bad. What you've got in that bottle could kill a man if you swigged it.

1:37:42MattListen, Matt, Horatio doesn't know what he's talking about. That's impossible. Do not die from cannabis.

1:37:53MattThere is no reported cases in the history of mankind of a death from cannabis. I'm going to drink it right now. No, I'm not really going to. But I'll dab it. Let's dab some.

1:38:07BubblemanI'll tell you, I thought my lungs were going to stop a few times in Jamaica when we were dabbing those pure terpenes.

1:38:14MattYou were like dropping the drops in there though, eh? Oh yeah, dude.

1:38:18BubblemanDo you get high off the terps? Well, I'll definitely tell you without a shadow of a doubt that it was a strong modulator, so it's not about do you get high as much as how it affects the high. Alright, I'll be right back. I need a couple things.

1:38:35SpeakerHow does it affect the high, Mark?

1:38:37BubblemanWell, that would be different for every terpene to strain ratio that you tried. So, for example, maybe... How about the ones you did? Well, I did a lot. I was in Jamaica when we were dabbing those pure terpenes.

1:38:52MattOh, there you go. He was coming through the drops in there, though. Look at this little tiny spoon I found.

1:38:58HoratioOh, that's not coming through my page. Whose page is it?

1:39:03SpeakerNice spoon. All right. Hey, I'm going to sign off and then sign back on because I've got some guests. I'm going to sign on from another computer. Is that Chris? Yeah.

1:39:22BubblemanWhat's up, boys?

1:39:24SpeakerYou're saying hi to this whole panel? Hello, everybody. There's Bubble Man right here. What's up, brother?

1:39:32BubblemanWe all just took LSD.

1:39:36SpeakerSo the one time I'm not on it, everybody else is? Great.

1:39:41BubblemanI've got some in my backpack. I can catch up. That'll be a Hash Church that we'll all do together one day. DMT.

1:39:48SpeakerI'm going to sign off and then sign on real quick, all right?

1:39:51BubblemanSee you back in a bit, boys. DMT, that would be another one. My goodness, everyone on Hash Church. Or how about Salvia, like that?

1:40:00HoratioI'm Hash Church in the room.

1:40:02BubblemanHit the floor and I'll start doing the Homer Simpson.

1:40:10SpeakerThat brings new meaning to the Google Hangout room.

1:40:13BubblemanListen, I'll tell you, when that shit was brand new, and Gypsy Nirvana, who is probably still sitting in a prison in the Philippines, unfortunately,

1:40:27BubblemanHe would fly from the UK and he would bring Salvia Divinorum from his shop, which was legal, and he would fly into Switzerland and come down to the south where Breeders Steve was staying in Lugano. And he would bring Steve these little vials of this crazy fucking like 20 times, 30 times, whatever. It was insane. And so Steve, of course, just loved it. He would take like the hit, have the most intense trip, and then take another hit So then he would share it with people thinking that they would also love it.

1:41:00BubblemanAnd man, I'll tell you, I saw some shit in Lugano, some people that, like unbelievable shit. Like here's one thing, for example, Steve says to this guy who's kicking heroin and is very, very addicted to heroin. Steve says to him, hey, you want to get higher than you've ever been off of a pipe? And like the guy doesn't even bat an eyelash.

1:41:26BubblemanSucks the hit back in like the most wickedest like, you know, in the way only a true fucking drug addict could suck a hit back. Like really just like, like the hugest salvia rip. That's a lot for the times of whatever it was. Well, this guy, in a warehouse full of dangerous shit everywhere, like glass panes up against the wall over here and power tools over here, he just started doing the most crazy fucking tweaked out dance, flipping upside down on the couch and rolling in a circle on his side.

1:42:03BubblemanHoly Christ, I'll tell you, man, I was like, Steve, you've got to calm that down a bit. Get it, girl. Get it, girl. Dude. Just destroying people. And another time.

1:42:16HoratioBigger scoop.

1:42:17BubblemanAnother time out on the deck in Lugano at the Cadro Panoramica, which is like a tennis resort in Switzerland. This young kid who was up helping Steve work in the greenhouses, helping process all his ribbon stuff. Young kid from Ontario, and Gypsy's there, and Steve's there, and he gives him a rip of this salvia. He's like, hold it in, and the kid holds it mad long. And then blows it out, and he's having this like epic trip.

1:42:45BubblemanI can tell he's like, oh, he's getting the God trip. Lucky kid. And so when it's really dark, but there's like a light there, and the light's shining down, and just the way it's shining, it's just, I can tell, I'm like, yeah, this guy's getting, he's like, he's literally like coming to tears, like he's experiencing fucking like everything all at once for the first time ever. And then out of nowhere, Gypsy just moves his big bald head in front of the light, and like lights a lighter up, In front of his face, and I can't remember what he said, but man, if he didn't just send that guy on a fucking downwards file into the most intense North fucking trip.

1:43:22HoratioI just think he was like elevating going up into this beautiful... Yeah, it was fucking intense.

1:43:30BubblemanMorally destroying... Maybe don't do it with Gypsy and Steve.

1:43:41BubblemanUnless you like that sort of thing.

1:43:43Soil GrownWhat you pressing there, Soil? Just pressing this church out into a nice little slab so I can see the clarity a little better.

1:43:54MattNice. Man, I got to tell you, I like dabbing these turps.

1:44:00SpeakerWoo! I knew you would. You have leather lungs. I saw you. You're like, take the pain. I mean, I used to live that way, but you can't teach people to live that way. No, no, no.

1:44:10MattI don't have leather lungs. Are you kidding me, man? My lungs are pink, and I take little baby hits from the bong. I can't take massive hits.

1:44:20BubblemanAll right. Well, we're going to take some unicorn tear dabs just because these guys want to. So they're taking Horatio unicorn tear dabs. Do it.

1:44:32HoratioTerp dabs? Terp dabs.

1:44:38MattTerp dabs. Take a big one. Take a big one. Really?

1:44:43SpeakerMatt, these are different terps. You can't spoon them. I saw the spoon you spooned into your nail. You can't spoon these terps.

1:44:51Soil GrownIt looks like it got your nose a little.

1:44:54MattOh, man. It was ridiculous. I went on a little journey there.

1:45:03MattGreat. Got it all over me now, unfortunately, because my house is going to stink like this for another two days.

1:45:11HoratioWhich is good. Trust me. Putting too much on.

1:45:14SpeakerHere's some raws that I made just now. Ha, yeah.

1:45:19Soil GrownJust now.

1:45:20MattWhy? So what are you saying, Horatio, that yours are way more concentrated than if you were to take a little scoop full like that, it would be the end of you?

1:45:29SpeakerMore like if you took a little scoop full like that, you used up the pound.

1:45:34BubblemanYeah, that's what we were using. That's what we were hitting at Tony's, though. His was like that as well. And, man, I'll tell you, it was almost too much. Hey, D, a little rosin for you, Darren?

1:45:45SpeakerNice, nice.

1:45:48BubblemanHere's a little. Is it just me, or is it the shape of a chess piece?

1:45:54SpeakerThe horse. Yeah. It's in the shape of a human heart.

1:46:01HoratioThe human heart.

1:46:02SpeakerNot the times day heart, but the human heart, ripped out of the chest, still beating in your hand.

1:46:08HoratioShizer. Oop, I went dark there, sorry. Let's get light.

1:46:16MattSweetgrass Extracts is going after the terp.

1:46:21HoratioTerps. With the terp spoon.

1:46:24MattDon't you have a terp spoon, Horatio? I got a terp spoon.

1:46:28BubblemanYou gotta have a terp spoon. I mean, that's pretty much essential.

1:46:33SpeakerI don't want a Terp Spoon, Shovel, I don't want a Terp Shooter. You guys are all going hardcore. I'll just use a pin and then a wipe. Thank you. I'm excited to try these Terps. It's something I have not yet got to try.

1:46:49MattThis is my Terp Spoon.

1:46:53SpeakerNice.

1:46:54MattProbably not the best thing to use, but it's what I found within my vicinity of my chair. So as any basement scientist would say, I now have a... I like it. It's very Turkish. Is it what?

1:47:12SpeakerIs that like pure silver? Like, you know, it looks pretty ornamental. Is that safe to be drinking your raw...

1:47:18BubblemanIt's how you anoint yourself with the holy terpenes, Horatio. Totally. I mean, when you're... You know, when you're attending hash church and you need holy anointing of the holy terpene and terpenoid profiles, one requires a holy spoon. And did you notice there were holes on his spoon? Show them the holes again. See, they're there. That's a holy spoon, bro. It's quite filigree. Straight up.

1:47:45SpeakerThat's a holy spoon. Good for you to trip balls on turps with.

1:47:50MattIt's my turp spoon.

1:47:53BubblemanDo you snort terps? Do you just anoint them in the middle of your forehead or do you just have like a terp?

1:47:59MattOh, dude, I fucking spilled some in my truck because I had it in a dish and I didn't have anything to cover it. I was like, ah, just fucking hold on to it while I drive home and I fucking hit a bump and it splattered in my truck. Fucking truck to sticks.

1:48:14BubblemanThat was quite a rip. Soil Grown. We just turned to smoke.

1:48:17MattOne of those things. You just live out in the country and you just sort of drive home with your bucket of turps in your lap trying not to hit the bumps. I don't know. I live in the woods. Absolutely.

1:48:30SpeakerWell, whatever you do, just don't mix your turps with any salvia in that spoon.

1:48:35MattWhy? Salvia turps. Well, tell me not to do something. Where's my salvia? Put it in there. Why do you put it in there?

1:48:43HoratioI just did that.

1:48:46BubblemanGoing to meet up with that great gardener again.

1:48:50MattBlame that Horatio. I'm going to have a note on me that says Horatio told me to do this.

1:48:57SpeakerYeah.

1:49:01MattThat's from Amsterdam.

1:49:03SpeakerYes, this is that little chunk that you gave me while we were standing on the balcony. Nice. So I smoked through all my entry stuff, but I saved this one, and I've been sharing it very sparingly with random awesome people. I was able to give a little bit to Cuban a couple weeks ago, so that was cool.

1:49:23MattAwesome.

1:49:24SpeakerIt's a gift of sharing, so thank you. A lot of people have appreciated Barb, because we all hear about the Barb, and everybody's like, well, I want to see Barb. I'm like, well, you're in the U.S., so you're not going to see it, but I have some Barb. So I'm sharing with everybody. Smell that shit.

1:49:39HoratioOh, wow.

1:49:40SpeakerSo yeah, it's awesome. I've made a little tiny chunk go a very long way because I hoarded this. I'm like, ah, you can smell it.

1:49:54HoratioThat's it. Are you smelling it or is that it?

1:49:58BubblemanHey, 702 viewers. That was pretty good. We got eight more until we hit 710.

1:50:03MattLook at this. This is a piece of this sort of frosty, crumbly barb. And then just as I sort of sat here, I pressed that.

1:50:12SpeakerOh, no. Oh, no. Never mind.

1:50:15MattNo. You can see this piece has gotten all greased up and greasy just by sitting here.

1:50:32SpeakerSo when are you going to put the barb through your steam mill?

1:50:40MattTough to say because maybe a couple weeks.

1:50:45SpeakerRisky. Risky.

1:50:48MattI'd have to look into the contract with the General Electric washing machine though. Pretty sure she's got an exclusive with the barb.

1:51:05MattBut, yeah, we will see.

1:51:06HoratioI hit my egg most.

1:51:11HoratioOf course, this is pretty good, too. Rips?

1:51:15HoratioHash chair rips? Hash chair rips.

1:51:21HoratioWhat is it?

1:51:26HoratioThat's big.

1:51:27MattDo you want some?

1:51:30HoratioOh, no. Hello.

1:51:39HoratioDabs over Denver.

1:51:50BubblemanTony's view is spectacular. With the egg in the bucket. Boom. Denver styles.

1:52:05MattTurp dabs.

1:52:06HoratioTurp dabs.

1:52:10MattYou guys want to hear from Sweetgrass Extracts Terp Dab Analysis?

1:52:15BubblemanYes, absolutely. Give us the analysis on the terp. You don't have to come on visual.

1:52:20MattShe doesn't want to visually come on because it's like 9 in the morning. No, no. She has to come on. It's like 11 in the morning.

1:52:27SpeakerI just don't want to sit here in front of the camera for hours because And conveniently sitting over there in a really comfy chair, listening to everybody and all the awesome talk. Nice. These serendipitous moments. I love the fact that Horatio and Marcus, you guys are doing the same thing today. 13 years ago, was it?

1:52:55BubblemanYeah, well, tomorrow will be our daughter's birthday. So, yeah, I mean, my wife went into labor like now. For sure, she was in labor. Took her 30... 32 hours, I think, before Trinity finally made it into the world. It was a rather long process. I guess that's why they call it labor.

1:53:17SpeakerThat's right. Anyways, it's been a cool day for those kinds of stories.

1:53:23BubblemanHell yeah. 711 viewers. We just bounced right over 710. Thanks for sharing, Sarah.

1:53:32BubblemanYou did it. We did it. I'm going to take a rip on that note. What said I rip? I don't think I've ever hit one of these tubes.

1:53:40HoratioYou've done it to AK, man.

1:53:41BubblemanYeah, I don't know if I've ever. No, I must, because Flav has a bunch of them. I'm going to hit the AK. What is this, 14? Or is it 10? It's like a 10. It is like a 10.

1:53:52HoratioBut the AK is like an 11.

1:53:54BubblemanInteresting. It fits, but barely.

1:53:57HoratioWant to put me a little grab or something? Yeah.

1:54:04HoratioWell, it's time to get dabby. Here we go.

1:54:08SpeakerSo I'm going to do a rosin, dry sift, bubble hash mix.

1:54:20SpeakerJeffrey. Just for the 717 viewers. Woo!

1:54:25HoratioAll right.

1:54:34SpeakerAnd we're up to that. Ball rig style.

1:54:40BubblemanAK. He's like hitting a new pipe.

1:54:58HoratioIt is definitely...

1:55:18BubblemanAwesome. Glass Peepas.

1:55:25HoratioWow.

1:55:36BubblemanThat was delicious.

1:55:44BubblemanWell, I'm really stoked that... Marcel is in chat right now. It's really good to see you, buddy.

1:55:53HoratioWhat a trip.

1:55:54SpeakerHell yeah. I'm loving it. I've never been in here, and it seems like a good time. Well, guys, it's Sunday. We've got our coffee. We've got our weed. They're like, what is that? We just hang out with the guys. Good times.

1:56:15SpeakerWe were just sitting here off camera talking about the value of cross promotions and how much it was paying off for everyone involved. So that was good too.

1:56:25BubblemanAbsolutely. You need to expose the information.

1:56:31SpeakerYou know, I really enjoy that approach of exposing the information and making things available so people aren't like... Well, when you get one guy who wants to employ a bunch of people for 15 months...

1:56:46SpeakerYou do what other people can do for themselves. It's just, you know, it's a little disempowering. Screw that.

1:56:55BubblemanTotally.

1:56:56SpeakerSo, I mean, I have a lot of respect for what you've done over the years of just like spreading healthful ways of extractions and all that. We did start off with that red oil. I know.

1:57:11BubblemanThat's the pre-bubble bags. That was like the first real, I mean, I'd seen dry sift, but it was kind of shitty. But then in 95 at the Cannabis Cup, I saw the full melt dry sift, and I heard that if it don't bubble, it ain't worth the trouble. And I was just trying to get to that, and that took three years. I didn't find that until like late in 98, you know?

1:57:34BubblemanSo the oil was probably 97 into 98.

1:57:41BubblemanAnd then, yeah, 2000 was full swing bubble bags.

1:57:47BubblemanThose guys still make that oil, if you can imagine.

1:57:51SpeakerThere's probably people still smoking it the same way, too.

1:57:57HoratioTotally.

1:58:04BubblemanOh, Jesus. Come on, you just put it on your exhaust pipe of your car, man. It's wicked.

1:58:12SpeakerYeah, I can see how that would get you incredibly high. Oh, it was so funny because it wasn't a matter of if somebody would fall from taking dabs of that shit. It was just a matter of how many dabs it would take.

1:58:25BubblemanThat was it.

1:58:27SpeakerThree or less in a row. Oh, yeah.

1:58:31BubblemanDude, if you were taking more than three, that was like getting into some heroic fucking dosing of the Redwell. The Earl.

1:58:39SpeakerOh, yeah.

1:58:42BubblemanNow we've come a long way.

1:58:44SpeakerHeck yeah. A long way.

1:58:48BubblemanDamn, Joshua's got his press out. He's not fucking around. New addition to the Hash Lab?

1:58:54JoshuaWhere's that? This is a very old addition to the Hash Lab. It was originally used for the European clients, which preferred a block of hash to having powder or whatever other form. Because it's not hash until, you know, it's a block.

1:59:16BubblemanRight. And you have to smoke it with radioactive tobacco or it doesn't burn properly. Or at least that's what they're completely convinced of. But that's neither here nor there. I always appreciated Wernard Brewing, the founder of the Mellow Yellow Coffee Shop, the first coffee shop in Amsterdam. And he was also the founder of Positronics, which was an absolutely incredible Super inspirational place if you've ever been to Amsterdam in the mid-90s, early to mid-90s.

1:59:46BubblemanBernard had this, you know, one part was a grow area where you could talk to people who were knowledgeable about indoor growing. You could walk through this little corridor that joined the restaurant from the grow area. There was this corridor and in that corridor he had a grow area. Usually with some very nice plants blooming with like a little like sort of gazebo glass door closed in front of it so you could just see it perfectly.

2:00:11BubblemanAnd he always said, if you're going to smoke it, smoke it pure, which was a rarity for Europeans, especially like in the 70s and the 80s. So shout out to Werner, Wernard.

2:00:33BubblemanAll right, Dabs Over Denver. We're here with Dabs Over Denver. 10, trying to call them heavy extracts in the house. 710 viewers. Boom. What's up, Bob and Ben? How are you doing? Not too bad. That was pretty cool. Right when you talked, right when you started speaking, it was 710 people that were in the room. It's been going up and down, up, over and below, but for half a second...

2:01:03SpeakerAwesome. It's great to see you, brother. I'm going to bust out some rosin real quick. Can you only see us as a silhouette?

2:01:11BubblemanYeah, but it's awesome.

2:01:12HoratioYeah, basically.

2:01:13SpeakerYeah, we're basically blacked out, huh? We're blacked out.

2:01:18HoratioWe're in, like, fucking FBI informant mode.

2:01:21SpeakerSo I'm going to take some sour grapes. A little tiny bit of blue suede shoes I have left.

2:01:35SpeakerSome Gluky Monster, the third place LA non-solvent winner with OG Cushman right here.

2:01:43BubblemanOG Cushman!

2:01:46SpeakerAnd I got a little bit of Girl Scout Cookies as well. So it'll be an interesting little mix.

2:01:51BubblemanDude, all the strains. You know, one of the things I'll be excited to hope that happens one day is the facilitation of strains to people. You know, everyone just wants to try these strains, and I think just like the information, you know when you have something and it's yours and you're able to grow it and you grow it real well or whatnot, it's like give that same thing to one or two or even five or six friends and yeah, they may all fuck it up, but get it out there to many, many, many people and you might be surprised with what you see come back.

2:02:22SpeakerYeah, I agree, I agree. Yeah.

2:02:25BubblemanYeah. Like I saw, like that Congo, for instance, that I've given away on quite a few occasions, which unfortunately created a big ruckus in the community, which I'm sorry for, because really all I really wanted to do was share a strain that people required. Each person I gave it to, they all had license for particular ailments that they suffered from. And recently I got to go to Remo's and see it in his grow, and my God, the thing was like... How tall was that thing, Darren?

2:02:53SpeakerFucking... Three feet taller than us.

2:02:57BubblemanThat's what I was saying. It was like 10 plus feet, bro. I couldn't even reach it with the top with my arms.

2:03:03SpeakerWith arms up, standing in front of it, it still didn't reach the top. It's a fucking monster and beautiful.

2:03:12BubblemanAnd I'll say this. The kosher kush, that DNA kosher kush, made it look like a clone.

2:03:18HoratioNot to the death. I love that kosher cake.

2:03:21BubblemanIt's beautiful. Dude, the DNA one literally was the biggest plant I've ever seen in Remo's place. I have a video, and he just asked that I wait a little bit before I release it, but when I release it, it is so absurdly huge. It must be 10 or 12 feet tall. It just comes out of the garbage can, and it's just so big.

2:03:41SpeakerWow. There's got to be something, you know, to be said for, you know, as well as, say, maybe popping a lot of seeds because you get more phenotypes and variances. There's got to be the same thing as socially, you know, like spreading the genetics to other people, you know. Like you're getting more phenotypes, more variances because other people are growing them differently in different places, different techniques.

2:04:05SpeakerSo I think it is, you know, good to give them out, you know.

2:04:09BubblemanWell, that's it, you know, because, you know what, sometimes you'll have luck, sometimes you won't. I mean, we were talking about some great gardener strains the other day, and Johnny B was like, oh, I'm not really that inspired with the Afghani. And I looked at it, and I was like, oh, well, dude, this isn't like, for whatever reason, because John knows how to grow good herb. I've seen his muddy push, and I've seen lots of his resin, super full melt, super, you know, top quality, but the Afghani...

2:04:33BubblemanJust didn't, for whatever reason, how he grows, the stuff that he uses, whatever, it just didn't look like what I would consider a good version of the Afghani. I've grown it myself, and I've seen Matt grow it, and I've seen the hash come off of it be just absolutely like, you know, like a contender, in my opinion, even at like a Legends dinner.

2:04:55HoratioYeah.

2:04:56BubblemanThank you for watching.

2:05:16BubblemanWell, Joe grew a very, very small amount of herb back then. He was very quiet. Very few people really knew Joe. He sold a little bit down on the pot block to some of the people that worked for Mark. And I always got to trade him a couple of ounces for a couple of ounces via, you know, because we were both growers for Hillary Black and the original first BC Compassion Club.

2:05:37BubblemanThe same one that exists today, but just, you know, 18 plus years ago. And that Gigi one, that Afghani that he has is literally, when made into hash and put in a jar, it just, it is literally the smell of the Romulan.

2:05:55SpeakerAmazing, amazing. I haven't been able to see too much amazing Romulan out here. We have purple Romulan, a few centers we deal with, but it's, once again, like kind of the point you're saying is that Certain people can grow certain things really well and it takes an amazing grower to grow everything very well. That takes a lot of different light spectrums, you know, maybe putting things outside because certain things do better, you know, like cookies under less light, you know, 650 watts, 315, you know, but certain other things like, you know, 1,000 and like to rage indoors, you know, a lot of things like outdoors, you know.

2:06:33SpeakerBut that's why I'm saying perfect point, perfect point is like everybody... Um, no matter what phenotype or strain they're running can get different results because everybody's growing just a little bit different, you know? Well, this time I'm doing four Afghans, four Barb, four Congo, four UBC chemo, a couple of my houses and a couple of, uh, some other cushions I have. So, I'm going to run those under the LED spectrum and, uh, they're all looking amazing right now, so We'll see what happens because it got attacked by bugs and it just didn't do well.

2:07:15SpeakerThat's why it just sat in the corner. We only had one anyway, but this time I'm looking forward to giving it and it's looking very nice just being there.

2:07:26MattThat Afghani is like the number one painkiller sort of at the clubs in Victoria. That particular strain anyway has been known for its ability to kill pain but keep the person sort of active. Right. There's a lot of painkillers out there that sort of knock you right on your ass, but these strains are sort of meant to sort of keep you mobile, keep you active and at the same time Get rid of pain, and the Afghani's been one of the number one at the VIX for a dozen years, for sure.

2:08:05SpeakerHave you gotten your TURP profile on that?

2:08:07MattYeah, for sure.

2:08:09SpeakerWhat's the strongest, like, is it just the pine? Because I have a lot of books on essential oils.

2:08:16MattI think it might be tourmaline is the highest.

2:08:20SpeakerOkay. Just like you're dabbing those essential oils now, it comes with some pretty powerful ones that in other books are the recipe for pain. They're not as obviously powerful as mixing it with THC, but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes hand in hand with a lot of other healing modalities. Just like the lavender farm, he's producing medicine for people even when they smell it, never mind its topical uses.

2:08:49SpeakerI'm really interested in your Afghani because I love that smell.

2:08:54BubblemanYeah, let's see this eight star real quick that Buddy just pressed out. Ken, let's see what you got.

2:09:04MattSo, it's terpenoline, alpha terpenoline, 16.81%.

2:09:19MattThat's some grease right there. It is the highest.

2:09:22SpeakerSo this was from a gram of the Gluky Monster, the LA entry. I mean, I haven't weighed it out, but I mean, that's a good, I feel like a pretty good return. And that was on a 45 micron.

2:09:36HoratioHuge return.

2:09:38SpeakerHuge return. With a, I think, I believe a 23 micron scheme.

2:09:47SpeakerNot bad. And then I'll just keep going and I'll film this here and yeah, we'll see what I get at the end. I'm thinking like a nice, you know, five, six, seven gram hopefully slab. We'll see.

2:10:01BubblemanYeah, you know, high grade you should get at least, you know, 70 to 80 plus percent return.

2:10:08SpeakerYeah, exactly. Some of these aren't full grams. Yeah, summer 38, 25, 45, 120, 190, so yeah, we'll see. It should get a good 60% return, actually.

2:10:23HoratioNice.

2:10:26Soil GrownIs that Soil Grown?

2:10:27HoratioWhat up, brother? Thank you.

2:10:29Soil GrownWhat up, back? I don't know what happened there.

2:10:34SpeakerHey, brother, thank you, man. We appreciate it.

2:10:37Soil GrownYeah, what's up, brother?

2:10:38SpeakerNot much, man.

2:10:40Soil GrownLooking good, man.

2:10:44HoratioOkay, thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Yeah. Greasy, greasy.

2:10:49BubblemanWell, dab it up, everyone. Dab it up.

2:10:51HoratioThose are all fake. Another dog?

2:11:02HoratioOh, nice. Actually, what I want to do is... I want to...

2:11:24SpeakerSo I think we are going to go get on with our day. I have to go clear home, but I have a couple little... We've got to attach the lady to the ice cubes before I... Ah, yes.

2:11:37BubblemanThat's important work. Well, you should definitely have a wonderful day, all three of you guys. Jen and Jessica and Marcel in the house representing. Come back to Hash Church.

2:11:49SpeakerOne of those...

2:11:54SpeakerLadies, lady dabbers. You what? Where can I purchase one of those? For anybody that wants to. This girl, where can I purchase one of those?

2:12:08JoshuaThrow it up in the chat. In the chat room.

2:12:13SpeakerYeah, Instagram, it's Jessica Boggs Glass.

2:12:19SpeakerWe'll put it in here.

2:12:22SpeakerWe'll add it to the comments so you guys can add it.

2:12:28SpeakerJessica Boglass following. I will be messaging you and trying to purchase some of your glass. Thank you. Yeah, she does amazing work. I just... I don't prefer with the booty like that on the thing, just because... Yeah, she does a great job.

2:12:51SpeakerWell, thank you for having us as always.

2:12:54HoratioYeah, thanks for coming, guys. Peace, guys.

2:13:00BubblemanHave a great day. We'll talk soon.

2:13:01HoratioAwesome. See you guys.

2:13:04BubblemanOh, yeah. Nice treat seeing those guys. I've known Marcel a long time. I don't know. It's got to be getting close to 20 years now. They used to come up when they all lived in Bellingham and hang out up in my neighborhood. Really, only a couple of doors down from where I live now. When Marvel Slinger first moved to Canada, he lived literally two doors down from where I live right now.

2:13:30BubblemanBlue glass in the garage. And I think my friend even came by on a couple of occasions and did some of that nasty work. Funny times, funny times. It's a going on 20-year cycle as well. Dude definitely slays the torch, no doubt about it. For those of you that haven't checked out Marcel before, you can look him up. Marcel Braun, B-R-A-U-N, glass blower, and really glass pioneer.

2:14:02BubblemanHumble dude, but in all honesty, you know, Marcel stepped the game up a variety of levels through the expansion of his, I guess, tools and, you know, kilns and the glory holes and Creating these tools that were limiting, because they didn't exist, he didn't have access to them, he created these tools to do things that he wanted to do that he was unable to do because of the limitations that the current tools that were in existence put upon him.

2:14:35BubblemanSo he really stepped out of that box and just started designing all these different, you know, one of the cool things he designed was like a four-post hydraulic kiln that like lifts upwards and And so the door is the base and then it lifts up and you can just put things down on the door and then it comes back down. So rather than open the door of a kiln and have the heat come out, his heat was staying, you know, in the kiln.

2:15:00BubblemanHe was also able to put way bigger pieces in, which, yeah, he's done a lot of cool pioneering techniques in the whole glassblowing world. There's really, I mean, there's a lot of guys that have done some amazing things, but Marcel is definitely in a, Small group of dudes that have really like, really expanded the growth of what is possible.

2:15:24JoshuaRight, well his technique that he's famous for, the air trap, where the cello is, you know, it's 500 years old at least. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But to transfer the furnace work over to the flame was always the, you know, the big hard thing to do and he developed a lot of, you know, Besides tools, he's good at team making, you know, and making the magic happen through the team and making it possible to make big pieces out of Boro that were never, you know, you don't think like that.

2:16:03JoshuaIt's not supposed to work like that.

2:16:04BubblemanDude, I'm telling you. I remember way back in the day, he sent me pictures and it was Of him in these, like, in a fucking space suit. Like, literally pulling canes that you could not believe he was pulling. Like, they were so thick. Like, as thick as, you know, someone's arm or whatever. And this was, like, back quite a ways. I was like, dude, what's up with that suit?

2:16:27BubblemanHe's like, oh, that's just so I don't burst into flames.

2:16:31HoratioYeah, first thing I ever seen him make was, like, a four-foot, like... Sunflower, dragon, bird thing. It was just like this giant piece. The phoenix. Yeah. That was in the gas conference when I was like, you know, in my early 20s. It blew my fucking mind, dude.

2:16:50BubblemanHe brought that up over the border to my gallery called The Melting Point for a glass show that Marbleslinger and I put on called Degenerate Art. And he brought that. That was the main piece. And it also came with a bowl, and it came with like a hammer bubbler that he put in sand that the phoenix itself sat in. Holy Christ, dude. That was the first piece to arrive at the show, and I remember opening it and being like, okay.

2:17:16BubblemanEven Aaron was like, he's like, yeah, we're good.

2:17:19HoratioLike, even Aaron.

2:17:22BubblemanAnd then the next piece was Lebo and Hops. Hops didn't even have like, nobody knew Hops. He was literally just the dude that was blowing next to Jason. And they made this fucking motorcycle that was just, this orange motorcycle. I sold it to Brett Bogue. Brett Bogue still has it, I'm pretty sure. It is a beauty. And that was the second piece to arrive and we were just like, yes, like this is fucking on.

2:17:49BubblemanAnd after, every piece after from like Ham Brushland to Amber Pelling Greeny to fucking everyone that entered just had epic pieces. So fucking cool.

2:18:01JoshuaI met Marcel in 1998. He was at a hemp festival thing in Eugene, Oregon. He had a cooler... Full of cokes, and he had this big dragon bong that was like, I don't know, the LSD lets me think that thing was about a half mile long. It was so cool. I was surprised I could reach all the way to the tail, or the mouth is where the card was, and he smoked out of the back of its head, and he was selling bong rips out of that dragon and a coke for a dollar.

2:18:38JoshuaAnd I just found out it was him like last year.

2:18:44BubblemanWas that at the weed festival?

2:18:46JoshuaYeah, it was called Cannabis Carnival.

2:18:49BubblemanOh, okay, so that's a bit of a different one. I just remembered.

2:18:52JoshuaOh, weed festival, yeah, it was the same summer as the world expo, the high times thing they did there. I met Ken Kesey there. That was right before you got here. Sure, yeah. Those were the days.

2:19:10BubblemanTotally, dude. Yeah, I met him right around the same time, like probably around 98.

2:19:19JoshuaCheers. Cheers to ourselves. Cheers to the glass pipes in the Pacific Northwest. Man.

2:19:28BubblemanCheers to the glass pipes on my desk right now. Holy Christ.

2:19:38BubblemanSuch nice little pieces. Nice huevos.

2:19:43HoratioYeah, it's all good.

2:19:46BubblemanThe ships. This little ball rig is insane.

2:20:03SpeakerTrippy. How long ago did you get this piece?

2:20:06Horatio2013. Nice.

2:20:08BubblemanSo you've had it a couple years. Yes. One of one, mother shit. Not too shabby.

2:20:18BubblemanAlright, let's see the fab egg. Oh yeah, I'll take a muffin. Do I want a muffin? What kind of muffins are there?

2:20:28HoratioAre they loaded up with oil? Nope.

2:20:40HoratioOh, wait.

2:20:42BubblemanNo, man, they're loaded up with acid.

2:20:45HoratioOh, those are those batch.

2:20:48BubblemanYou'll be fine.

2:20:48HoratioThat was a special batch.

2:20:57BubblemanDab in the haze.

2:21:15HoratioThat is some greasy rosin.

2:21:31HoratioIs that like a brain stash box?

2:21:35BubblemanThat's like takes, that's the new, that's heady. That is one heady container. We keep taffy in there.

2:21:46HoratioBrain Taffy. The brain's getting low, boys.

2:21:58JoshuaWe're going to Rosen. Can we be on camera? Is this okay to do in this day and age? Our political climate?

2:22:08BubblemanCan we make hash on camera? I don't know. Some of our viewers are in Oklahoma, and they might be raided and thrown in jail for like 70 years.

2:22:18SpeakerThat would suck really bad.

2:22:21JoshuaYou're not even joking. You say that with a straight face. Well, that's the horrible part about it. Show it. Show it. Show it. They still call weed dope there, I think, in Oklahoma.

2:22:33BubblemanJesus. Do you guys ever remember Tommy Morgan? Tommy Morgan had a pot TV show in the 90s, and he was in Oklahoma, and I have to say hats off to Tommy Morgan because he did not give a fuck. And he just had a show in Oklahoma blazing and fucking talking about weed all the time and just being like, fully like, you knew that this guy was involved in weed.

2:22:55BubblemanThese bars here?

2:22:56HoratioYeah. Pretty nice. How long should we leave it in?

2:22:59BubblemanShit, I don't know.

2:23:00JoshuaWow.

2:23:16BubblemanAlmost three hours in. I'm going to only do a three-hour hash church today, so we've got another half hour of, like, conversation. We can get into it, or we can get out of it. Sometimes you've got to get in to get out, and other times you've got to get out to get in. It's weird how it works like that sometimes. Bon rip! There you go. D420.

2:23:35HoratioRips from every piece before you go.

2:23:38BubblemanRips from every piece. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like all the way through like the piano chord and then back. That looks pretty darn toasty. You know some 45 micron finger press?

2:23:53SpeakerFinger pressed?

2:23:55HoratioFinger pressed?

2:24:14BubblemanEvery time someone says it, it makes me laugh when fucking Cuban was in here talking about how his buddy was finger fucking his hash. That's like the finger fuck tech.

2:24:24HoratioDude, let me finger fuck your ass and I'll fix that shit right up for you.

2:24:36BubblemanSometimes you gotta... I think I need a dab for certain. And I don't know, I like them all. I've hit them all now. Not all of them, actually. I haven't hit the dosy yet, but I think I'm going to go back to your little rig, Matt. I like this little ball rig. It's a favorite.

2:24:55MattHey, I got a question for Soil Grown there. When you make your rosin and you collect all those little tiny bits... How do you then get it into like a nice big even looking piece? Do you reheat it at some point? Or are you just pressing it?

2:25:15JoshuaScrape it up with a dabber.

2:25:17Soil GrownNo, just let your... Yeah, well, okay.

2:25:20HoratioBefore you collect... Hmm, I lost you. Anybody else lose them?

2:25:30BubblemanYeah. He just took... Literally shit the bed, man. Rose up. He'll come back.

2:25:38MattAnybody else?

2:25:40HoratioIt happens.

2:25:40MattAnybody else want to answer that?

2:25:42HoratioNo? We'll let him answer it. A few minutes.

2:25:45SpeakerI'm just... Give it a quick reheat on the press with the hair straightener and then press it out while it's wrapped in the slick pad.

2:26:00MattSo another heat press to sort of press it. Warm it up.

2:26:06SpeakerWarm it up. And then I'll roll this piece over it, nice big metal piece. I'll make it thin while it's warm. Cool it down quickly. It turns just to complete shatter so quickly, right?

2:26:27SpeakerWe're going to make some turp melt rosin. You saw those patties Ken made? You saw the rosin that he had on that parchment?

2:26:40HoratioI don't know if you guys could hear us.

2:26:43SpeakerYeah, I can hear you. Okay, yeah, we threw them in the freezer in a Ziploc bag, and then we're going to break them off the parchment. It saves a little bit of time. One of them, we're going to try to add some turps to it. Some strawberry. And then we've got a bunch of people here now. We've got Pinsky's in the house. Oh, hello. You've got O.G.

2:27:09BubblemanCushman. AJ, look at that. AJ and O.G. Cushman. Well, mothership rips, boys. Here's Fran.

2:27:21SpeakerHello. 800 people watching.

2:27:28SpeakerMy dog had to say hello again.

2:27:30HoratioOf course she has to bark every 30 seconds and destroy every video possible.

2:27:39SpeakerI filmed two grabs over Dendro and I don't even notice it anymore but as I'm talking you would love it because you edit. Imagine every 30 seconds.

2:27:55BubblemanYour viewers will love it. It'll be a part of Babs Over Denver. The thing you hate will be the thing that everyone looks forward to.

2:28:05BubblemanAnd one day if they won't hear it, they'll be like, is everything okay with the dog? Like, I didn't hear any barking this episode.

2:28:11SpeakerShe's half a chicken, bro. She thinks she's a freaking chicken. She does like this, like, bird call thing all day long. I don't know how to explain it. Mine snores the whole time through my videos.

2:28:29BubblemanYeah, she snored through my video back before you even did videos. She did? His dog, yeah, Darren's dog, Abby, he's got a big bulldog in the background there. And she just snores, dude, like hilariously loud. And a good camera, like, it'll pick it up, like, the clearest audio in the room is always Abby's snoring.

2:28:53SpeakerWell... All right, I'm going to put her away. Because it's driving me so insane.

2:29:02BubblemanHey, welcome to Hash Church. Hi, Mark. How's it going?

2:29:06HoratioGood, how are you?

2:29:08BubblemanOh, very good, very good. Just up here in Whistler. Oh, nice. Yes, it's my son's last ski school lesson of the year, so he's done 16 of them. Today's number 16, and he's done, and I don't think he's doing ski school after this. He's, uh, He's been going for like seven or eight years.

2:29:30SpeakerHoly. Why is he stopping?

2:29:33BubblemanHe's gotten pretty good. He's like now when you start taking trampoline lessons to gain air awareness so when you're flipping in the air with skis on that you like want to know where you're at. Ski school doesn't do that so he'll enter some new kind of like I don't know what it is. It's not ski school but it's some other sort of like where they teach you how to do gnarly shit on skis.

2:29:56HoratioOkay. Bounce?

2:29:57BubblemanNo, he takes his in the city. Oh. Yeah. But Bounce is awesome.

2:30:04HoratioOkay.

2:30:04SpeakerBye.

2:30:05HoratioHey, take it easy.

2:30:06SpeakerStay now. No, they're out, so I should go.

2:30:16BubblemanThe D420K is not afraid to slap a little ass in Hash Church?

2:30:22HoratioNope.

2:30:28HoratioOh, shit.

2:30:31SpeakerBad girl. She's a good girl.

2:30:36JoshuaCheck out this two-faced dish. On this side is Inigo Montoya from the Princess Bride collection that Andy Buckles did. And then when Jason Lee made a dish out of it, Ron Jeremy appeared on the inside of the dish. What the hell?

2:30:59BubblemanWhoa, that's trippy. Yeah, turn it around. I'm Inigo Montoya.

2:31:06HoratioI am Ron Jeremy.

2:31:10JoshuaYou fucked my daughter. Prepare to die. Do you have six fingers? Do you have two Peters? I'm looking for a man with two Peters.

2:31:25BubblemanTwo Peters. Six Fingers, Two Peters.

2:31:32HoratioYeah. Absolutely. Pretty cool dish.

2:31:40HoratioPretty cool dish.

2:31:45JoshuaThat thing is sweet, man. Nice. What's the green color? Is that Haterade? Yeah, it's the uranium. Oh, that's blown. Shit.

2:32:01BubblemanShit. Yeah, this whole pipe blows mad. I remember the first time we went into a dark room and closed the door, I was like, shit. Shit. Yep. The mouthpiece really glowed nicely. We have a video on this pipe glowing in Whistler. One of the videos from last winter with Matt the Great Gardener and His lovely lady. And Aaron from DNA and his lovely lady. And Flav and his lovely lady.

2:32:35BubblemanAnd a bunch of kids, me and my lovely lady. That was fun. I swear I want to make it like an annual thing where you got to have like, it could even grow because more people are like, want to be a part of it. It's like rent a bunch of houses. Rent a whole block of houses.

2:32:51MattBobsledding optional.

2:32:53BubblemanYeah, bobsledding optional, like you seriously want to pass the...

2:32:59MattIf you can't do like 30 push-ups, if you can't do like 30 sit-ups really quickly, then you shouldn't go. Your back's not strong enough to take it.

2:33:10BubblemanI wonder how many people go, think they're fine, and then get to the bottom and are literally just... Oh, are fucked up. Because, dude, that was the most violent fucking thing ever. It was more traumatic than snowmobiling, and that's really saying something.

2:33:26MattOh, it was. And it was what? It's 13 turns. We started at turn 7 is where we started at. Yeah. And by the time, so I was on the sixth turn, because on the last turn it says Whistler across it, right? You know it's the last turn when you go through it. So I knew that when we hit the sixth turn, it was like at that point it didn't become fun anymore.

2:33:55MattIt was more of like a survival of just holding on. You know, when the guy says stay straight, I don't think I was straight. So then all of a sudden I'm like bending in, fighting the force. Oh my God. The last turn was like fighting for your sort of life or death on the line.

2:34:20BubblemanThat's potentially three to four Gs, dude, which is like if you're a 200-plus pound dude, then that's like 800-plus pounds bearing down on you. Like, holy shit. Aaron literally shrunk right in front of me. I watched him compress like six inches down. His whole body just went like this.

2:34:38MattIt's unbelievable, man. Like, when I watch those guys now, because, you know, they get up to six Gs when they start. There was that one guy who says he can't go up past turn three because the G force is so great and he starts passing out.

2:34:56BubblemanYeah, it's why they don't open it to the public because a huge percentage of the public passes out at like above 4 G's or whatever, 4.5 to 5 G's in like unconscious like, just like rattling like a, imagine, I'm amazed they didn't have like more like of a foam sort of thing that like was like okay there's foam, you fit in, but no they put you in this thing and they just make you squeeze your arm.

2:35:21MattI mean it was just ridiculous. It was ridiculous. Like I say, like, I don't mean to sort of, you know, there's bobsled people out there and you're into bobsledding. I think that's, I bow down to you, man. Like, for me.

2:35:39BubblemanBut you know what? The thing is, is we think bobsledding is that. And that is like the fastest, longest, most dangerous fucking Whistler version. You see, Whistler has to have the biggest, baddest, best of everything. Even though the new zip line they're building on the top of Blackcomb Mountain that's going to go down to Whistler Mountain is only the second largest in the world, it still should be quite interesting to take that maybe next or this summer, for instance.

2:36:07MattI think I'd do the skeleton, though.

2:36:10HoratioYeah?

2:36:11MattWell, don't they start at like turn three, right? So you never, because really when you know, remember like turn one, cool, turn two, cool, three, cool, four, and all of a sudden it was like. So you never really get to the turn four or five. You're always just like zooming down.

2:36:34BubblemanIt's like stacking turns. You think when you've done a turn that it's done, but really it's like you just picked up a weight and you're carrying it on your shoulders, and now when you go around the next turn, you're going to put another weight on there.

2:36:46MattI think I'd do that.

2:36:48BubblemanYeah. I don't know. Skeleton is...

2:36:49MattThe skeleton or the bouge? It was the skeleton, right? You went head first.

2:36:53BubblemanYeah, yeah, exactly.

2:36:55MattHead first.

2:36:56BubblemanPlus you get a discount because you did the bobsledding. It's like $100 off.

2:37:05MattI wonder if we could still get our certificates that we got all baked up on the hill and never got.

2:37:09BubblemanThat's a great way to put it. Oh, geez. Yeah, I'm sure I could get in touch with them. Maybe even today I'll do it. I might go up on the mountain here still if I get off here in the next little bit. If I get off by noon, then I'm definitely going to potentially either A, sit here and do nothing but dab these guys' rosin, Or B, probably just sit here and dab these guys as rosin.

2:37:39HoratioWhat were we talking about?

2:37:40BubblemanHey, get me a rosin nap.

2:37:46MattOh, shit. It's so hilarious that you guys won that, too. That we won? But you guys, out of all the eight bobsleds that went that day, you and Aaron came in first, and we came in second.

2:37:59BubblemanYeah, I'm surprised all of us even, like, You just think the heaviest people would make that thing go the fastest, but really it's the driver, I guess, and maybe the tightness of the group. If they're all like one module, he's able to... Because literally the first thing I got, I start thinking about when I got out of it, right away I walked up to him and I was like,

2:38:27HoratioHow do you fucking steer that?

2:38:30MattLike how the fuck?

2:38:34BubblemanYou forget about it. Now keep in mind I was in the back right at the end and I think that was like the guy kept telling me oh yeah you're going to take the he's like it's really bad even though everyone like Aaron was right in front of me and he was like dude trust me the fucking third back was bad too. But it can't be that bad for the driver because how the fuck could you steer a machine like that?

2:38:54MattOver and over and over like 10 times a day. Our guy was the coach. Our guy was the Canadian coach who just happened to be the Jamaican bobsled coach.

2:39:07BubblemanI know. Pat Moore. How cool is that? Or Pat something.

2:39:10MattJohn Candy.

2:39:11BubblemanYeah, John Candy's character. Exactly. Well, I think we're losing torch power here. It'll still be good. This is the kind of torch I'm used to right here. It should only take like eight hours for this to... Yeah, sure. In Jamaica, I had a giant torch and I just put it in my bag. I would turn it on and just hold the pipe over it. It was pretty ridiculous.

2:39:43BubblemanSorry for not having this on mute, you guys. But now I don't have an extra hand, so you have to Be exposed to the terrible sound of the torch. Be obnoxiously loud. Even though we have electric nails in the house.

2:39:56HoratioThank you, sir.

2:39:57BubblemanNo problem. Boom. Back to the Aaron. Aaron Colbert?

2:40:04HoratioYeah, Aaron Colbert. Colbert.

2:40:08BubblemanAll right.

2:40:09HoratioI like it. He's auctioning a pendant off later on today as well. So hit up his Instagram, Aaron Colbert Glass.

2:40:29HoratioWell done.

2:40:32HoratioYep.

2:40:39BubblemanIt's definitely got a great function on it.

2:40:47MattWhat was the name of that thing then, again? Dutch Pump.

2:40:51BubblemanA Dutch Pump. Did you want to find the password?

2:40:57BubblemanYeah, a Dutch Pump.

2:41:00HoratioColbert.

2:41:01BubblemanBert? Colbert. Colbert. Yeah, Aaron Colbert. C-U-L-B-E-R-T. Aaron Colbert Blass is his Instagram. You guys can check him out. And then you also have some on yours. What's yours again? Wins West. Wins West. Geez, I guess at this point in time, everyone could be shooting their Instagrams out. There's a lot of Instagrams in the room. I mean, D420K. Geez, I'm not even going to try yours, Horatio. You've got to fucking say that thing.

2:41:33SpeakerWait, what? I was texting Matt. What's your Instagram again? Oh, HDC underscore LHO.

2:41:41HoratioNice.

2:41:42SpeakerPeople butcher Horatio, the spelling, real bad.

2:41:46BubblemanRight. HDC under dash LHO is much easier.

2:41:54BubblemanJohnny B is 420 Weedmaster or Weedmaster 420? 420 Weedmaster?

2:42:02BubblemanJohnny B?

2:42:03HoratioYeah, I gotta check it. I think it's Weedmaster 420.

2:42:06BubblemanBizarre Brothers.

2:42:09JoshuaBizarre Brothers, Brain Taffy.

2:42:12Bubbleman420 Weedmaster. 420 Weedmaster. Were you the Great Gardener?

2:42:20MattYep.

2:42:21BubblemanGreat Gardener. Soil Grown.

2:42:24HoratioSoil Grown. Okay.

2:42:28BubblemanSoil Grown. Yep. And then Tony's got a whack load of Instagrams in his place right now. There's like... There's a few.

2:42:41BubblemanNow they pulled the taffy off the parchment.

2:42:43Soil GrownOkay, so has anybody experimented with... On the rosin tech with the bubble or with the hash, rather than rolling it into a ball and pressing it, cut out like a perfect square. Pre-press your hash to where it's like a patty and make it a square. Then fold all the corners so that way the screen is in a perfect square. I don't know if you guys are with me still.

2:43:13Soil GrownAnd then press it that way so that way the oil, it secretes out all four sides like when you press a nug. Rather than, you know, the part where you crimp and twist together, you have a little bit of loss up in that. And I've noticed that it's better results.

2:43:35BubblemanI saw someone mentioning this today that they folded their screen up like an origami pouch and it was more effective than when they twisted it.

2:43:44SpeakerYeah, I would agree with that. This particular one, Ken just made, like, It's like fucking ridiculous, the most ridiculous sticky shit I've ever seen in my life. It's super clear and it's like part of another type of adhesive category that doesn't exist on Earth.

2:44:08BubblemanIt's the ticky ticky tacky.

2:44:12SpeakerIt's the ticky ticky.

2:44:14MattI'm working on the round sausage roll where... Once that's pressed, it sort of, it'll ooze out sort of either side.

2:44:24SpeakerDude, I don't know how you get the shit off here with this tech. For real.

2:44:31BubblemanI think, I saw when he made it on that parchment, I was like, sometimes it liquefies, and that's why I like the oil slick pads. Things would literally just shatter and come off of those things so nicely.

2:44:48SpeakerYeah, I mean, what I do is I keep it in a little tiny square and I never open my parchment. And when it's wet, I keep it closed. I put it on like a little cold stone and then like open it real quick and then take it out. Or I freeze it for a long time until it's rock hard and it just separates. And I usually do that on the oil slick on that.

2:45:10SpeakerSo I'm going to actually make some chirps with this.

2:45:16JoshuaTerps. Terps. Alright, hopefully I got Terps here, but I got some freshly squeezed 45 micron sour diesel that was like a three star.

2:45:28HoratioOh my god, yeah. That old lady breath OG? Old lady breath OG. OG stands for old grandma?

2:45:43Soil GrownAnd as for Matt's question earlier on pressing it into us, or how do I get it into the slab after you decontaminate it, basically I have the big press, I drop the tents down to 95, put it between two big sheets of parchment, and just pressed it. So now you have a nice even slab. So when you pull it out, you know, I immediately throw it onto like a...

2:46:06Soil GrownI have this pad that stays about like room temp. So it's about 70 degrees, 75 degrees right here. So it cools quick. And then that's how I get my slab.

2:46:18MattHave you tried to do it with just pressure? Without the heat?

2:46:23Soil GrownOkay, so if you do it that way, the oil...

2:46:30Soil GrownOr burst through the parchment paper. Probably because of the viscosity of the oil when it's cold, you know. So it's not able to move at the rate that the pressure is trying to force it. So it rips through the parchment paper. So if you don't have a second sheet of parchment paper under it, it'll just stick to the metal plates on the press.

2:46:52HoratioI'll put it away. Do you want the mini one? Yeah, sure.

2:46:57Soil GrownBut I figure, you know, that's like temps that people purge at, you know, 93 and 105 or, you know, around there. So just a quick one second press to press it to the slab, pull it out, cool it. You know, it's probably not affecting you any more than the initial press as far as I've noticed.

2:47:22MattBut some. You have to give the but some. It's heat, right? It's heat. Add heat to anything. Essentially, I always say, if you can smell it, then you're losing it.

2:47:40HoratioYeah, true. Or more has to do with the curse. Yeah.

2:47:47MattBut good to know the tip.

2:47:51HoratioIt's screaming loud.

2:47:58SpeakerYeah, it takes 70. I think it goes straight to the 285. That was delicious.

2:48:04HoratioThat was freaking delicious. So it's strawberry, banana, what was the... I can pull it out. It's the hash root. Gluky Monster.

2:48:15SpeakerGluky Monster with strawberry banana turds. Where? Right here. Nice.

2:48:23HoratioSo how did that work for you? Nice.

2:48:32Soil GrownI'm going to have to experiment with that a little more.

2:48:38HoratioIt's going to work way better.

2:48:43Soil GrownI don't know that it's going to be more effective that way or the other way, but it seems to be.

2:48:48HoratioHot off the press.

2:48:54BubblemanFresh dabs.

2:49:11HoratioKen's going to do, since that stuff is so sticky, he's going to do a hot one on there.

2:49:39SpeakerSo then what we'll do is we'll get it while it's warm. So I usually like to mix the turps in while it's warm.

2:49:45HoratioOh yeah, that's a good idea.

2:49:50BubblemanSuperior Turp Tech.

2:49:51HoratioPut it all the way cleaned. I'm going to use the little one.

2:49:56SpeakerYou sure?

2:49:56HoratioYeah.

2:50:11BubblemanYou guys want to hear a weird coincidence today out of the blue?

2:50:15HoratioYes.

2:50:16BubblemanAlright. For whatever reason, out of the blue today, this morning, I thought of Aaron Marbleslinger. And I basically sent him a message this morning at 7.42 a.m. saying, hey, you should come into Hash Church sometime as a guest. I literally sent Marvel Slinger that text today. To have Marcel come in, who Aaron introduced me to back... That was a nice lab, Soil Green.

2:50:55HoratioThank you.

2:50:56Soil GrownThat's the Mikado.

2:50:57HoratioMikado.

2:51:06BubblemanNice.

2:51:11HoratioAlways with a nice glass.

2:51:21HoratioAlways with a nice glass. Fresh squeezed oil.

2:51:27JoshuaOut of tap. That's it. All right. All right.

2:51:36JoshuaYeah, we've got an Excel banner here.

2:51:39HoratioIt is ridiculous.

2:51:43BubblemanLook at this. I'll tell you though, just talk about destroy people.

2:52:22JoshuaMr. Soil Grown, that looks bomb. What did you say the flowers of those are? Mikado.

2:52:31Soil GrownI'm not sure of the genetics. Macado. Grown by a friend and rivaled Ned's on Instagram. He does some pretty good flowers. I thought macado was always grapefruit. Okay, makes sense. It's very citrusy. Yeah. Is this all like ready, fired up and everything?

2:52:50HoratioDamn. I'm getting a stack low.

2:52:54JoshuaIt's actually pronounced macado in Algonquin.

2:52:58HoratioMacado.

2:52:59JoshuaIt means the good grapefruit.

2:53:12Soil GrownYeah, I sent some of that off for testing too, so we'll see how that macaro is in about a week.

2:53:31Soil GrownYou notice how the flavor on rosin sticks more on the aftertaste or on the XL, like less on the XL but more on the aftertaste when the smoke's out? That's when you really start tasting it.

2:53:44SpeakerThat's the best part about it.

2:53:51BubblemanWow, a little bit of a little cough break. Soil Grown and I are definitely rosined up. Do you have the taste of oil on your upper lip? Yeah, yeah. Me too. It happens. There we go.

2:54:14HoratioNice.

2:54:18BubblemanHow'd you like to hit a gram and a half bowl through this?

2:54:21Soil GrownOh, man. You gotta have the email on it.

2:54:25BubblemanYeah, seriously, that's a giant, like... Butte.

2:54:45JoshuaOh yeah. Nice waterfall dab on that.

2:54:53HoratioThat's a big banger right there.

2:54:59HoratioYou can fit my whole head right inside of it. That's it. Hit it hard.

2:55:21BubblemanI don't know how many more months I'm high right now. I mean, this is one of the newest things that's come across the cannabis scene in a long time, at least the way it's exploded, sharing of the knowledge, the extracting from a variety of things in a very quick way without a double boiler or water or the pain in the ass of that, which people were obviously not fired by.

2:55:41BubblemanEven though we started the game right now, we're years later, and this is like very new.

2:55:49HoratioYeah. I've never had it. I've never had it. I've never seen it. It's that cookies and all these.

2:55:56SpeakerWell, we're getting it all up. It's slowly coming together. This is the cookies with the strawberry banana OG turps that I got.

2:56:03HoratioWow, look at that color, man.

2:56:04BubblemanThat's ridiculous.

2:56:09BubblemanKiddus would take that whole dab.

2:56:12SpeakerWhat temperature are you running it at, Tony? What's up? What temperature is your... He's at 235 on my ceramic press, and then what I did was I took some of the turps, and I basically took the dab tool and put the turps on the dab tool while he's rolling it, and I put the turps on the paper, and then we're just kind of whipping it all together.

2:56:35SpeakerOh, nice. Nice.

2:56:44HoratioThis is the oiliest I've ever seen. This is all your house?

2:56:47SpeakerYou see where you started, Soil Grown? What's that? See what you started, man? I love it.

2:56:59Soil GrownI don't know if anyone's been messing with the flowers pressing as much as the hash, but I did a lot of the flowers, but I noticed during some of these last presses, which were extremely well-grown flowers, that the normal consistency of the blots that I would scoop up, there would be like Extremely clear liquid patches that I almost couldn't gather. And it was just, I don't know why or what it was.

2:57:27Soil GrownI just have a feeling it's turps. I don't know if there's, I don't have much knowledge on the turp extraction. So I'm wondering if this has any separation in that as well as like the oils. Or what, or if it's still infused during the press. But I've noticed with the flowers it seems that Like really well grown stinky flower leaves patches of liquidy clear oil compared to the more of the yellow gold more stable oil that it's around.

2:58:00SpeakerYou've got to drop your temps to pick it up. Like you've got to drop your temps way down. Oh yeah, yeah. In order to get it, it's just like there are BHO consistencies that are ungrammable. You can't process it without lowering the temps. It's the same. If you process that in a bubble hash, you would have the same issue of if your temps weren't low enough, you would have a disaster on your hand.

2:58:25SpeakerYou just have fire on your hand. So yeah, you would just have more terps equals more solvent.

2:58:33Soil GrownDo you believe that during that press and the separation in there, That's different. I get what you're saying.

2:59:08SpeakerBased on the moisture content, when you get those conditions, those are steam distilled turps that have split off in the explosion event. So yeah, I could see how if you're pressing the moisture and the lout of the material, the more likely that a separation of the steam, that moisture, literally steam the turps off in a separate direction from your oil. So I can totally imagine that. Does it smell like fire?

2:59:32Soil GrownYeah, it's just ridiculous. Just those little patches too are even more intense.

2:59:40SpeakerJust dab some and you'll find out.

2:59:42Soil GrownYeah.

2:59:49MattYou'll find out in a hurry if you dab some.

2:59:52Soil GrownYou're going to have to get that spoon to dab some.

2:59:58Soil GrownThe holy spoon.

2:59:59MattSitting on my couch here in La La Land.

3:00:03Soil GrownRosendale.

3:00:05SpeakerI am. Look, DTF. All right. I'm having the same thing there where I'm having certain spots where you cannot get it up. Like it just goes into that oil. When you're saying that, I'm experiencing the same thing with two strains that I have.

3:00:22SpeakerI was going to put it in the freezer now. Now someone was talking about putting it out in the sun and letting it oxidize or something. Did you hear that?

3:00:30Soil GrownBut what I want to do is I want to gather it separately. So those little patches, you know, I'll collect my oil, leave those patches, and now start gathering that separately and have that tested separately with the same batch of flower rosin to see if there's a difference in the terpene percentage.

3:00:46SpeakerHow are you gathering it?

3:00:49Soil GrownI just roll. I cool it. You know, I keep it about 70 degrees. I start with the roll with the little, I like to use the flat tip dabbers. For the collection and then the ballpoint for the cleanup. But I mean, it's work, dude. There's no easy way to do it as of now on the cleaning and the collecting process. That's going to be the challenge. I believe soon that the whole pressing and extracting it part and getting it on the paper is going to be solved soon.

3:01:23Soil GrownBut cleaning it up, that's just going to be manpower with flower rosin.

3:01:29MattIt's the trichome farming, right? You've got to trichome farm first, get the plant matter out of there, then go to the process. You've got to think all of a sudden, say you have a ton to process. You're not going to squish all the buds and get the rosin out. You're going to extract it via dry sift or giant

3:01:58MattIndustrial hoppers that wash and collect those trichomes.

3:02:04Soil GrownAnd if at that point you want to make the oil... Yeah, hence making hash rosin. And that's where that's going to... That's really going to be... Thank you for watching.

3:02:43Soil GrownYeah, made in China, Roslyn.

3:02:48MattYeah, it'll be interesting. Like heated rollers, we're thinking like heated rollers where you just sort of feed the bud into the two heated rollers and as you press and squish, it just sort of like oozes out.

3:03:03Soil GrownYeah, that seems like it could be effective too. Yeah, definitely with the flour. Because it would secrete the oil to one side, hence making the collection a lot easier.

3:03:15MattSure. Have a little scraper there, scraping it off. Any mechanical engineers out there? I know you're out there working on it. Yeah, get at it, please. Get on Ash Church.

3:03:27BubblemanYeah, I think when it'll really move forward is when there's greenhouses full of herb-grown hash labs with wet-washing facilities, dry-sifting facilities, and even potential other techniques. No matter how small you can do those techniques, you bring in the brilliant engineers, you bring in different type of thinkers, and it's like, okay, we've got the process, we know how to do it. We don't know how to do it like this.

3:03:55BubblemanWe need you to make it so it can be done like this. That's how you get that shit done. When you're there, it's not theoretical. You have to be there. They have to touch the resin. They have to see it gum up in the machine. They have to fucking understand it before they'll ever be able to apply ideas that are going to work on those scales.

3:04:16Soil GrownThat's where teamwork makes the dream work. You have those great minds who are great at that and you have these minds who understand You know, the concept and the basics and the knowledge of the cannabis, then you apply them both together, that's what it's going to take. And it's progressed so fast, it's going to be there soon.

3:04:36BubblemanDude, you just nailed it, Soil Grown. That's the new hashtag. Teamwork makes the dream work.

3:04:42Soil GrownNice.

3:04:43BubblemanI want to see it, people. I want to see it on Instagram, Twitter, all over the place, you guys that are listening and watching. Teamwork. Makes the dream work.

3:04:51HoratioThat's an old one.

3:04:53BubblemanBut it's, you know, so is Rosintac. Yet here we are all doing it for the first time.

3:05:00JoshuaYeah. True that.

3:05:02HoratioYeah, dude.

3:05:04JoshuaWe just did a second squeeze over here. Looks like we got about the same amount again this time.

3:05:09HoratioAh, yes.

3:05:10BubblemanYou got your egg out too.

3:05:13JoshuaYou got your egg out. I thought my pants were unzipped.

3:05:22JoshuaThis one's huge, man.

3:05:24HoratioI was going to say so, girl.

3:05:29SpeakerNicely stirred. Nicely stirred. Oh, wow. What?

3:05:33HoratioWho's saying MS at Fab Eggs or something?

3:05:52BubblemanThat's insane.

3:05:53HoratioThat's double.

3:05:55BubblemanRight? Who's paying 7 G's for a fab egg?

3:05:59HoratioWell, a work one.

3:06:05HoratioYeah. Bro, it is fully worked.

3:06:08JoshuaIt's all clear, but yeah, it's fully worked. Every bit of it's been heated up, you know. It's a one of one, or, yeah.

3:06:17BubblemanI think Scott Deppie's dog made this one. Dude, if Scott Dippy's dog made that one, that's got to be like a 10K.

3:06:29BubblemanScott Dippy's dog.

3:06:35JoshuaThis is a big one, though. It's not the best hitting one, that's for sure, but it's an egg.

3:06:49BubblemanThat made me laugh. Well, Chad, I want to thank everyone for coming out this weekend. It's been a short hash church, only three hours, but I think I might hit the mountain, go do a little bit of snowboarding, kind of the last sort of end of the season. We're just starting to get snow here in Whistler, so I think we got a foot in the last 36 hours.

3:07:11BubblemanSo 12 inches of snow up on the mountain, more than we've gotten that I've seen all winter long.

3:07:16HoratioSo thank you, everyone, for joining us.

3:07:19BubblemanCheck it out. And fucking, I don't know. I guess we will see you next weekend during the next episode of Hash Church. And may you all be very iry until then. Thank you for all your time and your energy and your information.

3:07:40HoratioAnd we'll see you guys next time. Peace.