Harvesting for Vets and Community Support

0:00Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineGot the toque on.

0:02SpeakerAll right, we're going live here. Look at that. We're being live streamed. Let me check it out real quick. We'll do a little recording on this bad boy. Record to this computer. Oh, yeah. I just need to share the link real quick.

0:24SpeakerAll right, here we go. Here we go.

0:28SpeakerAll right, everybody. Thank you so much for your patience. 913, only 13 minutes late today. Not too bad for someone that hasn't done a hash church in God, I don't even know how long. Shout out to Addison and Jameson for doing their podcast for the last couple of weeks or months or however long it's been. They've pumped out a bunch of great shows. But everybody, welcome to Hash Church 4.0, Episode 4.

0:53SpeakerWe're going to talk a little bit about harvesting today. This is kind of a last minute episode put together by Addison and the Dragonfly Earth Medicine. Wonderful to see everyone. Wonderful to see Skunk Man, Sam, little Dr. Seuss doll dude. It's been too long since I've heard your voice. Welcome everybody to Hash Church episode four. Welcome.

1:22Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThanks, Marcus. Appreciate you. Good to see everyone. I'm sure we'll have people popping in and out all morning, you know, checking in on their plans, checking in on their plans. I'm excited to hear about the 800 pounds mantra and what's going on with the pipeline and just see everyone.

1:41SpeakerI agree. We're super very grateful, Marcus, to give us the opportunity to come on and talk a little bit. I'm not sure how this came about. I think Marcus contacted me and then had some ideas, and then we all kind of got together and figured, like, why not? Let's have Ash Church and talk a little bit about what's going on right now. And I think, Marcus, you came up with the idea about the harvesting idea.

2:06SpeakerAll right, so we're going to go ahead and get started.

2:21SpeakerYou might introduce yourself and give. I'm Judd, Sugar Magnolia Farms. Honored to be in the big city LA zone. Addison and I have been trying to catch a sesh for a long time. We first met at the 2014 Cup in Richmond, I believe. He was still doing testing stuff. I was lucky enough to be working for Sheldon Black Glass and my pot and hash. Journey began at that same time and honored to be here taking dabs with you guys.

2:53SpeakerShout out to Richard. Yeah, Richard, man, for sure. Yeah, that's how we met. Shout out to Richard. That's how we met back in the day. That's an old brother, man. I met him through Ruhr. Listen, before we get started, the idea for this really was inspired by my team over at Whistler Technologies. Daniel and Andrew did a little podcast recently where they did a little, just the two of them talking about harvesting and preparing for solventless.

3:19SpeakerAnd it kind of gave me the idea like, I was like, man, I know a ton of awesome farmers and cool hash makers. Like, why don't we kind of do that idea that they did, but kind of pump it up a little bit, get more people involved, more people that are actively farming, but also the people who are actively making hash. And just kind of have a little discussion.

3:40SpeakerI mean, it's been too long since I've seen everyone here for sure. Shout out to Alice, shout out to Ganja Gill, shout out to Joshua, shout out to Daniel and Junkman Sam, 800 pounds. I had an amazing time recently at the Unicorn Cup. Shout out to Chay and his whole team at the Unicorn Cup. I thought events like this were a thing of the past. I thought that this was done and we were just moving into this picture where everyone was upset and getting crushed by the new world of cannabis.

4:16SpeakerThis is old school. This was an absolutely spectacular event made even better by spectacular people. I saw one of my old buddies, Alan Middlemiss from the Kootenai crew that I hadn't seen in a Decade or more while I was there paddleboarding with my buddy Tyler, hanging out on Psychedelics and the TT with the Dragonflyers Medicine and all the great people from Kelowna and the Kootenays and Kevi and oh my god, I can't even say enough about the Unicorn Cup.

4:48SpeakerIt was just so, so good. Kevin Jodfrey was there. I would definitely implore anyone who wants to come and experience the I heard talk of like, oh, this is like the Emerald Cup in 2009. It really had a great old school vibe to it. Worth coming down. We're checking it out. They did an incredible job. Chay's mom owns this incredible property with this rosebud lake and all these beautiful acres of forest surrounding it.

5:19SpeakerIt was spectacular. I really just can't say enough about it. So, um, Yeah, welcome everybody. I'm super stoked. Get some dabs in and talk to everyone in regards to really, you know, solventless and preparation of the material and flash freezing and all of these things can be our topics. But at the same time, I'd love to hear about where you guys are at, where you've been coming from, where you're going, where you're at currently in this sort of chaotic cannabis uh experience that were that we're all sort of uh i don't want to say trapped in because i think a lot of us are lifers and it's something that we choose but it's definitely been um it's been a challenge to say the least and a lot of people have uh have been taken out so i sort of uh i you know i think of them all the time people that have been involved in this plant for so so long that have just been unable To maintain with the with the legality of the taxes and the sort of getting squeezed out.

6:22SpeakerSo we can, of course, discuss that as well. And of course, I would very much like to hear any and all stories from Skunk Man Sam. I haven't heard his voice in a very long time. And whether you know it or not, buddy, I think about you all the time. You deeply affected my life. You've been an amazing mentor and friend. I think about you often.

6:47SpeakerThank you very much. Yeah, dude. A man of few words. A man of many bong rips. Yee.

6:59SpeakerSo yeah, pretty excited to see the group. Very thankful for Josh Pitelli as well as Addison for kind of putting together a little group. I love the intensity of which Addison is currently getting dab ready. Like you can see guy is like dabbing the way he works out. He's like, no fuck around. This is serious shit. Get everything organized. Get your tools clean. Oh dude, I love you.

7:27SpeakerI'm trying to make Sam proud of me, right? Dude, Sam's proud of you. Trust me.

7:36Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, Marcus, I'll just double in on the Unicorn Cup experience and how sweet that was. I mean, Rosebud Lake is filled with turtles, little painted box turtles, which is like you don't find a lot of turtles in the lakes around here in the Kootenays. They exist, but it's like amazing. And so you have this lake and you're camping out and It's sort of like just trails through the trees and stuff.

7:59Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo it definitely has that like OG flavor to it and stuff. Look at all the samples. And it's fun to meet up with a bunch of people you don't see a lot. So this BC community and the Alberta, big up to all the family we met, you know, out there and stuff and just had the best time. Yeah, it's cool to have an event up here. The borders have been hard for us, you know, going back and forth and for other people that are into natural wellness.

8:26Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo, you know, hopefully by next year, those things change and, you know, it'd be sweet. But yeah, it's only going to grow and get more powerful. So and it's nice to have like the big dance party kind of aspect to it, which they had this huge stage. And Yeah, it's just a lot of fun. Just a lot of good times. And now, you know, or just I wish the Unicorn Cup was a little bit more later in the year only because of having fresh outdoor ganja.

8:58Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou know, it's hard to get even light depth stuff out there by August for here. You know, it's nearly impossible. So, but whatever, it's better weather, you know, and by the time the end of August comes, like, it's rain times here. So,

9:14SpeakerYeah.

9:16Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineHow are you, Alice? Let's hear from you because I know you're kind of down in Brazil with the on and off internet and stuff. Why don't you tell us something good? You've been in New York somewhat recently hanging out with Liz. Liz was also up here at the Unicorn Cup. So we kind of had that like love link going on. So yeah, I'm Flynn up and down up in L.A., wherever, up or down, wherever you are.

9:41Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo yeah, tell us something good.

9:44SpeakerThis year has been a literal trip. First, thank you for the invitation. I'm happy to be among you all. We came here to talk a little bit about harvest, but this is like the first year that me and Flynn haven't been cultivating in a long while after some difficulties with the county last year. I think you all know that. Moving from that subject, it was a bunch of traveling, different cups.

10:15SpeakerAnd now I came to help out organize one of the first hash cup in Brazil. So they did Dabadoo in Brazil and it was the first Thank you so much for joining us.

10:46SpeakerMultiple hash samples, barely no rosin. Little solvents, but everyone was crushing with the hash and with the temple balls. And it was very, very, very beautiful to see and to watch. And I'm buzzing. So at this moment, this is where I'm at. And I'm sorry for the internet. Definitely, this is paradise.

11:06SpeakerWow. Internet doesn't work well in paradise. It's working well enough that we can see and hear you. So I'm appreciative. What strains were you seeing down there? Anything we would know? Okay, so the people that won yesterday, they won with like a peyote cookies. um there were some saw some cookie things on the menu of course some like uh different like orange turps like some of the bho the best like solvent samples were like a super actually clean um citrusy beautiful bho too i didn't try it i just smell it because you all know which team i i judge it by the smell and look um but um Thank you.

11:56SpeakerThank you. Thank you.

12:24SpeakerThe biggest issue was that we developed an app to run the votes. And then because of the internet, a lot of people logged in and the app kept logging out. So it took longer because we had to do it manually. So till this part was amazing. The end of it was a little like counting the votes was stressful, but the rest was all good. Like it was beautiful.

12:47SpeakerThere was a rock and roll band playing, psychedelic rock and roll. The event was held in a place that people do ayahuasca so it was literally a round circle and with like a geometrical like geometrical circle it was geometrical circle sounds crazy right but it was just like a lovely place and uh the vegetation the music the people it was small and beautiful the hardest part was the app but the app will work next year and it will be fire Well, next time, next year, if you guys want, we just developed on a blockchain with some partners that we have an entire judgment platform.

13:31SpeakerWe're talking about being able to make it eventable for any other event, making it so that other events will be able to use it for their ticketing, but also be able to use it for the judging. And it's all secure. It's all on a separate server. So yeah, we would love to let us know next year. We'd love to chat with you guys about it. Yeah, I was going to say, let's exchange.

13:51SpeakerIt's always good to exchange and grow better. Make things easier. That's what half church is all about. So is Dragonfly Earth Medicine entry in this cup number four? I'm not sure. Dude, I think it's your guava punch breath right here, bro. The first one I picked out. I think it is. It's pretty noticeable. Dude, there's 20 of them and the first one I picked out was yours.

14:21SpeakerThat's what's up.

14:21Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineUm, Alice, I have a quick question. Oh, Johnny B. Go ahead. I love it.

14:29SpeakerI think his camera's off. He might be busy. Ask Alex a question and we'll welcome Johnny.

14:33Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd it's beautiful to see there of him. But I was going to ask Alex a quick question with the ayahuasca family. You know, often with plant medicine and ayahuasca ceremonies, there's a thing about, oh, we don't do ganja. You know, it's like a tobacco and plant medicine thing. And they're like, you know, but then there's different tribes that, you know, allow, you Thank you so much for joining us.

15:26SpeakerAll right. Thank you so much for joining us.

15:49SpeakerThey were very open about it. And it's not like they do not want the plant. It's just that sometimes it's not part of the ritual for them. It does not belong in the ritual, like the way that people use it. And what I've seen is a lot of people that do go to the Ayahuasca ritual and realize they have a tough time.

16:13SpeakerThank you. Thank you. Thank you.

16:42SpeakerHelp out bring the people that are actually flying on the ritual a little bit more to the ground and to the earth.

16:51Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI appreciate it. Thank you.

16:58Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineGanja Gill in the place. We got Ross Kayapal coming in hot. We got Daniel hanging out with Seraphim and all these Seraphina, sorry, and just really stoked. I know Josh is out there trying to pull buds in from the rain and he's got his some type of willow tree or something on there.

17:17SpeakerDude, I love when babies make it onto Hash Church. That's my favorite. All ages welcome at Hash Church. Definitely. And definitely. Yeah. Welcome to Kaya. Welcome to Johnny B. Johnny B. Good morning, everybody. I'm in the middle of sticky fingers. Well, that will be at 10. So we still got 41 minutes, 30 minutes till the 10 o'clock push up.

17:51Speaker4,200 push-ups a month. Come on. 20 push-ups seven times a day. 30 days.

18:01SpeakerWhat's up? Johnny B has been getting it, which, you know, is pretty incredible for a guy that's broken down near every bone in his body. I don't know if you guys keep up with Johnny B's drama, but the last car accident, someone T-boned him and flipped his car upside down in a ditch. And that's with already the surgery on his spine and the Broken, shattered half of his body and the broken neck and the broken back and the broken leg and the broken arms and the broken jaw and the shattered skull.

18:28SpeakerJust some of the things our Johnny B has been through while he sits there. If you've never seen the power of cannabis as a medicine, this guy doesn't take anything else other than cannabis and his amino acids and sort of all these sort of healthy supplements. He should be dead, really, or in a wheelchair or completely fucked. I mean, he is completely fucked, but he's completely fucked in our way, in the good Johnny D way, in the loving cannabis way.

18:54SpeakerSo I appreciate you as always, dude. It's always nice to see your smiling face. And I'm quite sure that you probably got the best reception in the chat room as well.

19:03Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicinePeople are still saying good morning to you, in fact.

19:07SpeakerJohnny, how did you have an accident? Was it your fault? Was it a duck flying from the sky? What happened? So what was going on with this particular last accident? Some guy was, I don't know, just driving down a country road, you know, just hanging out. Things are good. Listening to Napoleon Hill, you know, just kind of doing my audio books. And out of nowhere, some guy thought that being on his cell phone while driving put his foot on the gas and blew a stop sign at about 80k and hammered me.

19:41SpeakerFlip me three times, the back end of the car hit the telephone pole, rolled and landed in a ditch upside down, broke my ribs, tore some cartilage off my sternum. And four days later, I was doing pushups. I was like, a nice piece of like, well, that's impossible. I know while I already live in chronic pain, I do a lot of bong rips, I smoke hash. And I said that blatantly straight out.

20:02SpeakerThat's what I use my pain control. And that's about it. And yeah, and I just kept going away. Movement is how we heal. You cannot just sit there and do nothing about it. So I started walking right away. It took me four days off. I started walking, started doing my pushups, you know, using creams and stuff like that. And just being dedicated to oneself. Getting up at 5 a.m.

20:29SpeakerIt's got to heal. You got to move. You got to keep things going. Plus, my garden was just growing. So I'm just like in the midst of putting that in. You know, it's important that, well, I actually got a picture here, so I'd like to show you this. You guys can see this. For those of you who didn't miss it, when Johnny B got side swiped or T-bone flipped into the dish, he literally went live on his, like, social media, like, five minutes later.

20:58SpeakerThat's how I found out. I saw him. I went live. In his car, on social media. I'm like, oh my God, John, what now? This is also like the third or fourth accident. It's gotta be like two or three since just your back surgery, no, John? Or your neck surgery? Yeah, it's been a couple since the neck surgery. This guy hit me so hard, he ripped the door skin, was attached to his bumper, as you can see.

21:24SpeakerJesus Christ. It's never loud either. It's never something chill. By the way, that's an incredible joint, Donji Gill. Like, I don't even smoke joints anymore, but fucking hats off to you, my brother. That is an incredible joint. When I did smoke joints, that is a joint that I would smoke right there. Sorry to cut you off, Donji. That's okay. Don't have to worry about it. That's totally fine.

21:49SpeakerIt's been a while since I've moderated one of these rooms. I'm a little bit rusty. There you guys go.

21:59SpeakerThis is your accident happening? Oh my God. Jesus. Dude, how do you have that? Oh, it's right like this.

22:11Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI thought only Russians had driving cameras on their car.

22:17SpeakerIt looks like Johnny was on the phone during his break. Maybe you were the reason why you crashed because you were filming. No, no, no. I have Dash Cam. Now you can see he's sitting on his cell phone. So I have Dash Cam. It was all Dash Cam. You have the accident for likes.

22:37SpeakerNo, I don't know if you got any likes or not. I mean, here, here, here's the one I got into in 1988. I said, head on by dump truck. So that was the original accident. So yeah, I have been through several major accidents. And you know what? Understanding it was 20% of the problem, 80% of the solution was growing from that. And that's what I did. I grew from my accidents.

22:58SpeakerAnd I grew by using cannabis, by helping it get me through what I was going through. I grew it. It got me off the pharma. It helped me connect to the community. It helped me build a better lifestyle. I mean, come on, you guys are awesome. We all do the same thing. It's why we're here. It's we give back every day. That's crazy, dude. I'm still in shock.

23:22SpeakerWelcome to ATN, a brother from another mother in the house. He's been doing the rounds with the veterans. I've been watching them on Facebook. He's been doing all these speeches. Tell us a little bit about that, bro.

23:35Etienne FontanWell, hello. Just got back from spending a week in Washington, D.C. on the Capitol Hill. Took a whole bunch of veterans and we went after the Republicans and Democrats on the Veterans Affairs and Armed Services Committee. And yeah, we literally had 26 meetings on Capitol Hill in 72 hours. And a big shout out to our volunteers who came out, George Armstrong, Lynette, pardon me, pardon me, Marilyn Mathery, my wife, Michael Krawitz, Brian Buckley, Todd Scatini, Nate Landau, Lenore Vinalis, George Armstrong, Tony Landry, Michael Green, and Amy Case King.

24:18Etienne FontanWe're all just veterans. And we went up on the hill, talked the talk, walked the walk, made a whole bunch of meetings, made a whole bunch of friends. But yeah, we had an agenda and a whole bunch of work, but... Tired. I just literally walked 12 miles in two days walking around Capitol Hill. So I just got home yesterday. So I'm a little tired and sore, but need to get back there because we've got a lot more work to do still.

24:47SpeakerNo doubt. It's amazing. From the Canadian perspective, I just have that because I'm here and that's who I am. But it's just, it's so strange, the like valor and that pride in country and flag and the way they send you off with such pride and love and bragging rights almost like these are good men and women. But then you guys come back and things are like shaky and holy fuck, I got poisoned by gas and I fucking did some things that my brain can't let go of and I, I would like to be able to use cannabis and I would love, and they just, they just, they're completely against everything you want.

25:29SpeakerLike they don't want to take care of you. Is this an accurate description of what's actually going on?

25:35Etienne FontanYes, but actually we're using you Canadians as an example right now. Actually, we're trying to, one of the main reasons we met is to put the Canadian VHA and American Veteran Health Administration in the U.S. together because currently your system, thank you to Aaron Victory and other Canadian veterans for educating on what's happening. Canadian veterans can actually go on their National Canada app right now If you have 100% disability rating, such as you're given 100% disability rating by your VA, the Canadian VA gives you up to three grams per day, free of charge, depending on whatever your modality.

26:18Etienne FontanSo if I want pill, I want a joint. I want a lollipop. I want a sublingual. I want a patch. As long as it equals up to three grams in the end, The Canadian VHA will mail that to you within 48 hours. So, yeah, we're trying to, we were talking to them about reopening the Compassion Investigative New Drug Program, which was shut down, where currently only Irvin Rosenfeld receives it, so...

26:46Etienne FontanWe want them to reopen it, staff it with veterans and grow quality of the cannabis of everybody here and what I sell in California. None of that crappy Mexican varietals that they've been pumping out for 15 years or so. We're actually, the main talk is to facilitate and get various senators and representatives to put the Canadian and US VAs together so that we can get something similar here in the US in the sense of Sorry to bore you.

27:14Etienne FontanWe just want to have a voucher system so we can actually, the same way you receive free cannabis, well, all of our veterans are on disability with very small limited incomes and the cost of cannabis is very expensive. So if we could get a voucher system within our 10th Amendment reality so that we could supplement and help our veterans actually get the medicine they need today as opposed to taking it out of pocket, well, that'd be helpful.

27:38Etienne FontanSo... That's just one of the things that we're working. We're trying to get our medical card designation on our VA cards so that if we're no matter where we're traveling through all 50 states, territories or federal property, we won't get arrested. You know, simple things that are logical, but apparently, you know, is illogical to Thank you to our veterans for coming out strong this week and making the stand.

28:03Etienne FontanAnd thank you to the National Cannabis Industry Association for allowing us that ability because we basically went out as 12 veterans and hit 26 different goals. Senators and Republicans directly, and they were very responsive. Some ignored us, but yeah, Bubble Man, you're exactly right. We're treated like shit. We're treated like second-class citizens, and we have to fight for everything we have. So we have banded together, and again, we're all volunteers.

28:32Etienne FontanWe don't get paid for this. So we're out trying to do this for the better of everyone. So we'll continue. We got to get back again there soon. That seven days wasn't enough. We got a lot more work to do.

28:45SpeakerThis is great work, Etienne. Go ahead, Sam. I have a question, Etienne. Who pays for the three grams that you can get for free as a veteran in Canada?

28:58Etienne FontanWho pays for it? The Canadian government pays for it. It's a subsidized program. Last year, they pulled out $150 million or so. Unfortunately, there's a scandal I read that just came out this week. Apparently, a whole bunch of money disappeared. And there's a whole bunch of scandal around it. But right now, the Canadian government is funding about $150 million per year to give free cannabis to veterans who meet those qualifications.

29:24SpeakerDoes that mean the Canadian government is buying it from private producers? Yes.

29:32SpeakerI just want to understand how the system works.

29:34Etienne FontanI mean, they're buying it from the system and the system itself. So they're buying it directly from the LPAs. They're packaging, like I said, through the national app and mailing it within 48 hours. So we can't get back to America.

29:46SpeakerWell, keep in mind, we have over a billion grams sitting. Like, there's billions of grams in Canada that aren't selling either.

29:52Etienne FontanPlease, donate them. We'll take them. We take donations of every kind.

30:00SpeakerSo I'm sure the Canadian government's getting that for a very good price if they have to deal with like one of these big auroras or canopies or something. Yeah, it's not easy, cannabis in Canada. Let me tell you, I set it up. It's not as easy here as it is in California.

30:24Etienne FontanIf we're only that easy.

30:26SpeakerYeah, yeah, exactly. If only it were that easy.

30:30Etienne FontanThank you very much for having us and having me on this morning to talk about that. We're humbled and honored. And needless to say, thank you all for all your hard work and dedication. And thank you for being the leaders in Canada for us to be examples to follow. So humbled and honored.

30:46SpeakerHow can people support you in this cause? Is there somewhere they can go and read more about this or just really connect to you on your social media?

30:55Etienne FontanWe have a site, veteransactioncouncil.com. We're all on social media, etc. We accepted donations via the Battle Brothers Foundation, which is a 501c3. Literally anybody who could donate. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

31:42Etienne FontanThank you so much for joining us today.

32:08Etienne FontanAnd pushing medical cannabis. So that's why we were there in the United States Capitol using Canada and Israel and others as examples to say, hey, you know, currently we were telling the guys in the VA and the defense department there that currently there is an Israeli nasal spray right now. So if you received a TBI, a traumatic brain injury from an explosion or a hit or a concussion or an accident, That they actually administer this spray right now and it stops a TBI in its tracks because we know cannabis is a natural neuroprotectant, right?

32:40Etienne FontanSo if somebody gets blown up, okay, in a vehicle or something like that, they're usually down two weeks being concussed, okay? So if you could stop the brain swelling and stop the permanent damage that happens that the Israelis are doing, Thank you for watching.

33:14Etienne FontanPeople could use that today, okay? So these are the things that we're trying to point out, the hypocrisies, so that we can make advancements for our brothers and sisters so that they don't have to continue to suffer. You know, we got off the sidelines. We're tired of sitting on our couches and complaining about things. Get off your ass, get active, get involved, and contribute to democracy. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

33:36Etienne FontanWe don't want to hear about it. If not, walk alongside of us. We'll walk along with you. Yeah. You got to vote, man.

33:44SpeakerYeah, I can. If you don't vote, you can't complain.

33:48Etienne FontanYou just don't vote. You can speak to your representatives. Every single one of us that was there on D.C. represented tens of thousands of people. So when you go and you speak to your politicians, you're representing many people. So do so. Use your voice. Use your stance. Volunteer. That's how we've done things. That's how we've always done things. That's how we will get things done and change things because we're not financially involved.

34:11Etienne FontanOur lives are involved. And by using our voices to act and help out those who are the voices who can't Thank you for joining us.

34:36SpeakerYou can, if you're a grower, if you're a seed breeder, if you're a hash maker, ATN, it sounds like you can donate product to you guys so that it does get out there or donate funds that then can be used in that way. So, you know, just because you're not able to talk to politicians, I'm not a huge friends with politicians or willing to, to really do what ATN is saying, but, you know, I am able to, and we do donate to some of the different organizations that are doing that stuff that are Or even, you know, what's even cooler is grow some weed and give it to ATN so it can get to some of these guys.

35:12SpeakerThat's even fucking cool.

35:13Etienne FontanNo, no, no, no. Don't give it to me. Find a local veteran where you are and adopt veterans. Adopt a veteran. Give them your free cannabis. That's what guys did for me when I was doing this back in 93. Dennis Perrone's grower actually grew an eighth and had a free eighth for me every three days. So make sure that you adopt a veteran. Take care of those who can't take care of themselves.

35:35Etienne FontanSo that they have access so that they can be strong and be medicated so that they can actually contribute and help and use their voice as well. So, you know, help locally and regionally. It helps everybody nationally.

35:48SpeakerDab a vet, bro.

35:50Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo get off your hash.

35:51Etienne FontanI like it.

35:52SpeakerWe were going to talk about harvesting for processing, but how about harvesting for vets? Make sure when you harvest, time a little bit of that and heading over to your vet. There you go. That's a good idea. Why not the cannabis community? That's a great campaign. You know, it's a, I was talking, I've got some friends that are vets and they're, they're pretty interesting guys. They're like special forces guys.

36:16SpeakerAnd I love, I got, I dug real deep into like living in a very undisciplined life my whole entire life, having no supervision from birth to, to up until now. I never looked at any discipline or any of that stuff like it mattered. I was always just kind of wild and free. So growing up and then getting really interested in it and talking to some of these friends, what I learned is that they commit and give their life to not the government, but to the group of men Thank you so much for joining us.

37:05SpeakerWe were a team, you know, and it was like, I see a lot of similarities, you know, and then I talked to them too about afterwards, you know, they're out of, you know, military service at this point, retired, and they're doing other things. But I'm like, you know, do you feel like your government served you well? And how did it end? And if you listen to a lot of the stories that typically they're tapping out and they're leaving that because they're either, you know, a lot of them get accused of things that they didn't do because of, We've got a lot of different stories.

37:40SpeakerThere's all these different stories, but a lot of them in the end aren't really happy with the government and how the government ends up doing them in the end, whether it's through veteran services or other ways. So there's a lot of odd When I talk with those guys, I'm like, well, you know, I'm a veteran of the drug war and, you know, we served in a different way, but we facilitated the production, distribution, transport for consumption of medical cannabis.

38:09SpeakerLike that's what the fuck we did. We made great livings doing it. And then we got into science and we got into all this other shit and they're blown away by it. And they all love weed. Every one of them that I know, they really value the compounds, the other compounds that we value. They also value The neuroprotectant that cannabis is. So that's why it's so crazy at the end to hear about there being a medicine that's a spray that works as a neuroprotectant.

38:34SpeakerThat's fucking crazy. So. That's nuts. When is that product available? Is that like a drug?

38:41Etienne FontanThat's currently available in a medic pack right now in Israel. So why is it not available at a medic pack right here in the United States? Why is it not in a medic pack for Mexico? Why is it not?

38:52Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineBecause they never wanted us to succeed with weed. It's too powerful and it empowers us to live our own life and not give a fuck what the government thinks. That's just.

39:01Etienne FontanDoesn't the money come from the U.S.? Don't tell Israel. They said fuck all that and did it anyway.

39:08SpeakerLike don't you guys give them billions of dollars though? Didn't you buy that for them? Yeah, we paid for it.

39:15SpeakerThe money doesn't go Israel-America.

39:17Etienne FontanYou've already paid for this. Can we talk it out? And so they're going to try and put us together and have those conversations.

39:23SpeakerIf you can get illegal oxycodone and all these other drugs on the street, we should probably be able to find this. I'll call a guy, see if we can get some. Because this is, this is, yeah. I guess you could call it a hash church. I'm not happy with the government. Or like, you know, in sports medicine for that spray too, you know, you think about all these athletes too, you know, like my, we were just in a park and my little boy was seeing a football practice and he's like, football.

39:50SpeakerI'm like, oh, I don't, I don't know if you want to play that, but it was interesting, you know. Yeah. I mean, you need it in the cannabis area. So we're talking about sativas.

40:03Etienne FontanBut seriously, whenever they go into that blue tent for a CTE, they should be shooting them up with that nasal spray because it's the same traumatic brain injury that's going to continue to swell, which is going to continue to disable that person, cause nerve separations, etc. So between cannabis and then if you use mushrooms to reconnect those nerve endings that have separated, you're actually healing and actually bringing yourself back into homeostasis preferably.

40:32SpeakerUsing the endocannabinoid system to bring the body into homeostasis, which is fucking badass. And also using a very specific nanoscopic vehicle to deliver those drugs to break that brain blood barrier.

40:51Etienne FontanRight, because it's directly absorbed into the mucal membrane, right? It goes straight to the brain right there.

40:57SpeakerSo hopefully in the very near future, I'll be able to talk about what that vehicle is because I know what that vehicle is. And I have a company right now that we're looking into that particular vehicle. And maybe in the next couple of months, I can talk about that because it really does finish the circle when you're talking about delivering the payload and getting it to where it needs to go and making it...

41:24SpeakerIt's still effective because the blood brain barrier is super fucking heavy, man. It keeps out like almost everything.

41:32Etienne FontanBut we were educating them specifically on what even the endocannabinoid system was, okay? Because the majority of them don't even know because again, recent discovery. So, I mean, you could literally start to see their eyes just glaze over when you started to have that discussion. Those that were doctors or science and scientists, because some of them are, they got it. You know, some of these, no, they don't get it so much.

41:56Etienne FontanWe talked to a lot of defensive fellows and the thing that got to them, which are basically they're officers who are basically assistants to senators and representatives for a year. And so they basically work in their office. So they're basically they're being bred into perfect little generals. However, by using the TBI information specifically, that was a way to get through to them. Because again, we're looking at ways to connect with these people to get what we want, right?

42:26Etienne FontanAnd we can talk all the legalization and medical this. Talking that TBI spray was the arrow through all the bullshit. All of them pretty much for the most part were like, oh shit, oh that makes sense, oh that's logical, oh that's not a bunch of people sitting around smoking pot, et cetera, et cetera. So again, it's also about finding how we connect with these people using language so that we can get through all the prohibitional lies that we've had for 70 plus years.

42:55Etienne FontanAnd make a human connection so that they understood that this could be you. Because we also use Alzheimer's as an example in using the patent that the U.S. has as a neuroprotectant and showing these senators and representatives specifically, your government has had this patent, okay? So why is Israel and Canada being able to benefit from us and we're being laughed at and our guys and brothers and sisters are suffering?

43:24SpeakerOh, we know why.

43:24Etienne FontanWe know why. For sure. We know why, but I'm trying to make it, I'm trying to hit them in their third eye. And this is how we got through. So these are skills we're learning and we want to teach you so that you can be better at talking to these liars so that they can see through the truth.

43:45SpeakerPoliticking.

43:47Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWhich is the psychedelic aspect of life too, which in Canada, you know, it's not just weed that you can get for three, you know, three grams. You can now, starting in January, get, well, every, every drug is going to, up to 2.5 grams, I think. I think it's two and a half grams is going to be just legal. Oh yeah, just why BC is so good. We get to live far away.

44:15Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThey don't see a lot of us. They're just like, go ahead, just don't make a lot of noise. And they allow things to happen. So it's cool. We get to help affect reality, which is super powerful. And then we don't also really kind of need to dance to all those That those songs, you know, we have other songs and other rhythms that we dance to and stuff.

44:41Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo it's it's a time where we can kind of choose our own adventure. And, you know, sometimes you feel like you're banging your head against the wall and then you see a little glimmer of light down the hallway and you're like, oh, maybe I'll try out this other thing. So I like it that everything's happening at once. And I'm thankful for it being fall. You know, we get to talk about all the good things that happened in the summer, the activist stuff that we're doing, and then watch the ganja develop in front of us, knowing that these compounds are listening to us talk.

45:19Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd the plants are listening to us. They're helping communicate with us because we're breathing in their air and they're breathing in ours. And now that cannabis is going to help propel all these thoughts forward. It's crystals, they're trichomes, they're crystals. They get affected by thoughts and they're water, we're water. So I just really appreciate the intention, you know, and everyone coming together. And in a slight shift, I wonder how everyone's dealing with their crystals right now in their harvest.

45:52Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd like, is it raining in your world? Did it rain in August? Did you feel a warm to cold night shift? Because we get sometimes rains when it's warm out and it's terrible for the buds. But if we get rains with cold nights, we really don't get the mold because they have this inner plant shift that happens that they're all, you know, it's the wrong environment. So I'd love to hear what some of the people are feeling in their harvest.

46:22Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah.

46:23SpeakerLike what's being, what's being done right now to prep for resin harvesting? Like, like frost. What are you, what are you guys doing right now? I saw you cleaning up the plants a bunch the other day.

46:41Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, we have mostly been pulling in light depths. And in the end of August here, right after the Unicorn Cup, about August 25th, we got heavy humidity. And we have in a mountain valley, so the whole valley fills up. And then sometimes you get these just clouds going through the valley, and we just call them death clouds and stuff. But luckily, this year- We have, we, we'll do push-ups too.

47:11Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineOh, you're doing push-ups. Okay, good. 10 o'clock, man. 49 push-ups in a row.

47:27SpeakerHe's on schedule.

47:29Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineLooks like we had glitch. Nice one. Those are good.

47:35Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineBut we're really thankful this year for the harvest. And it was really amazing. And we haven't watered our greenhouses for like a month and a half now. You know just zero water just keeping it dry in there and then if we do get rains instead of dropping the walls we pull the walls out you know so the water's kind of going away from the the house and in some cases leave the end walls just totally open um and that just allows enough a little flow through but there's no like blowing You know, mist coming on the plants.

48:13Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd I'm so stoked about the one greenhouse left right now. There's zero mold in there. And now we have these cold nights and you can literally see like whole layers of new crystals come on like overnight when it gets down to 35, 39, you know, degrees, which is what close to what we're close to freezing at this moment, you know, in these times and stuff. So Big time cool year, zero powdery mildew around, even on the ground and stuff.

48:45Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe're using way less tea and way more just in the soil building and way more into the layering and the mulching and all that. And I feel like it's really helping our plants because the plants just go into the soil and they're just like, oh, this is what I have to work with. And it's not necessarily overpushed. You know, with nutrients to where it kind of becomes vulnerable, it becomes, they become huge and sometimes it's fine, but when they have the cells and the way the plants grow and they have just They're soil going on.

49:25Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThey tend to be healthier and they hold themselves better. And we don't trellis so much, you know, but we're not dealing with 20 pound giant plants either. And obviously you trellis a plant like that. But so it's been it's been good for us this year. And I'm really.

49:40SpeakerSounds like there's a lot of things that you've got to take care of in regards to the flower itself. Right. In regards to molding and not kind of rotting out. But are there any things other than I mean, obviously, each year you're going to make hash out of your varieties and press some rosin and smoke those ones. I'm sure you you're keeping the guava lines going. I mean, those came out so beautiful in hash and rosin that are there anything else that you're doing at this time that's really specific for the resin?

50:18Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThere is a thing about too dry in the greenhouse. And then sometimes that some of the weeds will start dying and stuff. So you kind of have to keep a little light, make sure there's life going on. So that when plants die, they tend to get, you know, more pathogens on them to help them die. But really it's not, we're not doing any sprays, no foliar sprays.

50:40Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd minimal watering towards the end. And really it's just walking through, keeping a really good flow through environment to manage the pest. So we're having zero pest issues because we have so many flowers. So every greenhouse is surrounded by food. And so, you know, another thing we just had deer and bears, you know, rolling through our greenhouses this year more than ever. Like, I mean, it's like, oh, it's cool to see a bear, but really like when it's in your house, like every day, all summer, it's just interesting.

51:15Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd then you have like deer in the middle of the day, like hanging out, like when you walk into a greenhouse, you're like, she has a fucking deer in here. What's going on? You know, so. The animals are coming in quite a bit more but like I don't know I just think it's keeping uh walking through every single you know day two or three times a day making sure everything is cool making sure nothing's fell falling over keeping the weeds lower so there's flow through and really like just praying you know just playing music you know and also keeping like the prayer vibes going and and uh Ceremonial sort of aspect, you know, I think that helps a lot, you know, and so that's what we've been doing.

51:55Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd we're thankful. And we're grateful.

51:57SpeakerSomeone asked what the guava lines that you're working with are, top dog or only? And then also, I will also add that we've also had the bears. It was the late winter. We were still skiing at the end of May. My friends were still sledding in June. And so the snow was really, when they came out of hibernation, the snow was all around them and they got pushed down lower to find food.

52:19SpeakerAnd when that happens, generally they just stay low, you know? And so we saw like an 800, my kid was on his trampoline the other day. He's like, mom, there's a bear. And we're just like, oh, like which, which direction is it running? Our trampoline's like down on the road. So he's down there with his little friends, right? And he's just so chill. He's like, oh, I It's walking up the hill, it's going into the mountain.

52:41SpeakerOkay, well, if it turns around, just come up to the house. You know, and my buddies were visiting in from Vancouver and they're like, look, is this normal, dude? You just have like giant bears walking around your neighborhood. It's like, well, if you did notice, we live in a forest and there's only two options. Leave the bears alone and then they'll be around or kill all the bears and you won't have them anymore.

53:02SpeakerAnd so we went for the first one there, just leave the bears alone. When they call those conservation officers, the only thing those guys can serve are their jobs because they're the ones that kill the bears. They don't conserve them, so.

53:18Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe have a lot of logging and stuff as well, but I would just say there's just a lot around. It's called bare medicine, how powerful and strong. They're almost like a dragon. They're like, they chop their teeth together, but they're so docile. And if you watch them walk through a garden, in some cases, they'll just bear their way through like squash. You can't really, but like in some, they just tiptoe through.

53:43Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe've even had them open our car door with just, Aaron Ward, A nail whatever and grab like chicken food out of the car and walk away and there's zero scratches on the car which sucks that are in the car but and we have to keep the food out but it's kind of like wow situation. Aaron Ward, The guava punch lines came from Kush Kirk in southern Oregon who I thought might be here today and he had been working with the purple punch and the punch breath.

54:12Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWelcome to Cal.

54:13SpeakerHi, everybody. Good morning.

54:15Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThere was some interesting blood brain barrier talk earlier today, which would be fun. But also, you know, just I just like to say everyone, all the DE and peer family, like the coffee from Kaya continues to grow in the family. I know there's new lines that Kaya has been working with. I know he was at melting of the heads and you guys rocked out a really fun time.

54:38Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThey're super excited to hear more about everyone's varietals. I've been getting just really amazing stuff from family. Super stoked about Heart Rock, Daniel, and these hashy auto flower lines that he's been coming out with. Really blessed to be trying those out this year. We didn't necessarily do them in numbers this year, but we wanted to see kind of what the finishing time would be like up here.

55:06Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd a lot of them all worked out like super well.

55:11SpeakerBravo, Daniel. So beautiful.

55:14Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThe Blue Thunders, the Lemonhead Chem is just starting to come on, the Blue Diesel, and... What was the last one that we just harvested? But anyway, you know, just thank you for those. And a lot of people up here in Canada and BC are really feeling, you know, have actually have bought your seeds over the last few years and are continuing to work with them. So it's really cool to see that.

55:43SpeakerAnd I think it's good for us to... Yeah, it was fun to see them

55:50SpeakerOh, I was saying, I think it's good for us to read, you know, like we've been pulling tarps for a whole lot of years and now to be seeing varietals that are catching up so we don't have to do that, that we can put our energy elsewhere and more into internal work and into family and community and places where we really want to be rather than pulling tarps.

56:12SpeakerSo there's a really beautiful free up, I think, for the whole, you know, cannabis community and You know, putting our energy where we where we want to put it and having good varietals that allow that. So thank you.

56:34SpeakerIt was fun to see those grow up there. They're really pretty. And if you guys do have something good to submit to the Autoflower Cup, the entries are due at the end of October. We have one, I think that's in mid-November in Northern California this year. And I'll be there as a guest speaker and vending. And I had a super successful auto flower breeding program this summer where I'm probably made over a hundred hybrid combinations where it was like part of my goal for these past few years.

57:02SpeakerTo just breed the lion claw in with full terms and then make them autos, but make them polyhybrid so that I could start with a polyhybrid that's fully auto. Just kind of try to bring some strength and vigor and then go from there and work down the IVLs.

57:22SpeakerAnd by fully auto, does that mean it has two sets of auto genes, male and female? No, no. So the auto flowering is a, it's a recessive trait. And so it doesn't show up until the second generation of inbreeding, but it takes three generations to make it auto, you know, six to make it like stable. But it, it, you can cross an auto in with a photo.

57:49SpeakerPeriod. And just inbreed them or outbreed them. So if I did like, you know, a Blue Dream Auto with a Cookies and then a Cookies Auto, those F1s would not be auto flowering, but you could cross those two together. And then the next generation, which would also be an F1, would show up with a 25% or less auto flowering. So I've been working on that. And so the 25% that are auto flowering, they are

58:19SpeakerThey've got auto flower genes from both the mother and the father, correct? Well, not if you cross an auto in with a photosensitive, but that 25% would have both parents' genes, but it would be expressing that recessive trait. It would be dominant, and that was 25%. And then you would select two of those. And then if you really wanted to make like the auto blue dream, you would go three generations down to make an auto flower, but then you would back cross.

58:48SpeakerAnd that makes a lot of sense from what I've noticed from reading that to really stabilize the trait of that, you'd want to go back across to the F1 or back to the Blue Dream because that would really then bring the structure and the effects of the Blue Dream out further in that line. And then you'd go a couple more generations down to six, and then you'd have a fully auto You know, whatever the photo period you were starting with.

59:25SpeakerI love it.

59:29SpeakerSounds like something Canada needs.

59:33Etienne FontanWe will send some down. Bubble Man, how are your flowers looking this year?

59:40SpeakerThat's not too bad. I, you know, I went, thank you for asking that because really what it allows me to do is shout out one of my longest time friends and mentors, Ron Hickey, who I got to see while I was out in Proctor, BC in the Kootenays. I hadn't seen him for a very long time. So for those of you that have watched the channel for a while, you'll have seen a couple of videos with me and Ron on making hash, making dry sift and bubbling.

1:00:06SpeakerJust, he's a super character. He's just one of the greatest people that I know. And so I got to spend time with him. Unfortunately, before I arrived, he was like rushed to the hospital with COVID. He ended up, yeah, like I'm on the way. I'm like seven hours into my eight hour drive. And I get a call from his like roommate guy that helps with the plant, Will.

1:00:27SpeakerShout out to Will. And Ron's on his way to the hospital. He's having problems breathing. And I'm just like, oh my God, I'm super worried about him now. I'm just like crazy. Like I'm, Adam Dizzle, Nick, Skully Vibes, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm,

1:01:00SpeakerHe moves the plants all day, like nonstop. He's like, oh, the plants got to have the best sun. So he's just moving all these fucking plants all around his property in the most insane of ways that only really Ron could possibly do. Like it irks him for the plant to not be in the best sun. And so he had a lot of plants, six or seven or eight varieties.

1:01:23SpeakerAnd so he gave me Seven or eight of these different unique plants. I've got some out on my deck right now. Probably like three weeks, maybe four weeks into flowering. So they've got like another month and a bit. There's a Congo out there that will probably do another, you know, six weeks or whatever. I might have to bring it in and put it under an LED light if it starts raining here soon.

1:01:42SpeakerBut it was nice to have plants at the Unicorn Cup. I was, I think, the only one who had living plants. Because Ron was like, you got to take these plants. And I'm like, okay. So I had these plants around my tent. I was lucky enough to be sitting with these dudes. What the hell was their brand called? Meltz or something? They had a Meltz, something Meltz.

1:02:02SpeakerThe two, oh, they both had the same name too. I can't remember. Really nice young guys that are working in the industry, making beautiful melty hash. And, you know, he's like, I know, Bubble Man, I listen to you and Kevin talk. And I want to find, I want to find a haze. I want to get into one of these, you know, sativas. And so, The guy next to me, Tyler was like, listen, if you're trying to get into a sativa, what you need to find is that damn Congo plant.

1:02:28SpeakerIf you can find that. And as he's saying that, I just get up and walk away because I'm thinking I'm going to give these guys the Congo that Ron gave me to bring here. And I did. While we were sitting there, I came back and I put it in his lap and he looked all confused. He's like, what's this? I'm like, that's the plant that Tyler was telling you you need to get.

1:02:46SpeakerAnd he was just like, mind blown. His buddy still didn't know what was going on until he Just turned around and gave him the plant. And his buddy was like, what is it? Like, it's the Congo, the plant we were talking about. So shout out to Ron for just being so awesome. I can't even remember the name of all the cultivars. There's a Congo out there. There's a black domina out there.

1:03:08SpeakerThere is a white wrecker, I think he called it.

1:03:13Etienne FontanAnd one that was called Ezra. What plant did you see that made you go, wow?

1:03:20SpeakerThis one that he called Ezra was just like covered in resin. It was so covered in resin outdoors in the Kootenays. It just reminded me every time I go to the Kootenays, I see at least one plant like that. And it was that Ezra. So it's not the name of the cultivar. It's the name of the kid who was living in his house and brought this cultivar.

1:03:39SpeakerI'm not sure what it is. It's out there right now. It's the first one that's turning like the hairs are turning pink. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll be right back.

1:04:14SpeakerAnd I'm telling you, these people are us in the pizza world. And they're all unique and different. There's a Korean woman. There's a Japanese guy. Of course, there's a couple Italian dudes. There's this really cool woman from Portland. And they've all changed the game in the face of pizza by becoming obsessed with getting their hands into the dough, creating their own dough. Visiting the wheat fields, visiting the fig trees and all the different ingredients that they end up really changing the face of pizza.

1:04:48SpeakerIt's totally fucking inspirational. Each one in their own right, you can tell, are just absolutely legendary. And it's so, it's so, you know, they're out foraging mushrooms and they're out foraging berries and flowers and they're talking about the biome of the And the farming and the regenerative, they're just talking about everything that we're talking about. And it's neat that we're going to end up there. And even the Italian pizza chef saying, you know, back in the day, Italians are the pizza chef was the lowly chef.

1:05:20SpeakerWe were looked down upon because we were just making pizza. And now they've elevated this pizza to what I would call full melt pizza. And it's just reminiscent of our community, especially You know, people like Best Friends and Ganja Gill and, you know, the Dragonfly Earth Medicine, just like really getting your hands into the soil and understanding that the magic happens in the simplicity. It doesn't have to be overly complex.

1:05:49SpeakerAnd I mean, obviously the volatile organic compounds are going to be very complex and profound and have depth, but how we can get there doesn't, it can be very simple. It doesn't look I think that's a really good question. I think that's a really good question. I think that's a really good question. I think that's a really good question.

1:06:23SpeakerYou know, when we, the one Italian guy says at one point, you know, the reason my pizza is so special is because I make all my dough. I don't let machines make my dough. If everyone makes pizza and machines, everyone's pizza will taste the same. And so that was like a profound statement to me that really made me realize like, yeah, we, this is us, the cannabis, some of us in the cannabis industry that are really passionate about this and love the Understanding of the botany of the plants and the biology and all of the things that are happening in regards to the field and the environment and the terroir.

1:06:56SpeakerAnd then the person who tastes it. As hashmakers, we are always so quirky. We're always so obsessed. We're always, we're just a different breed of people. And we want to get right in there. And we want to show, much like these pizza makers, what they all wanted to do was they wanted to honor the ingredients they were given from the growers and the genetics And they wanted to create something that honored that.

1:07:20SpeakerAnd that as a hash maker sums up what I want to do in a nutshell. And it really made clear why you guys are so, so, so important to me and the work that I do, because I'm not a grower. I'm not growing plants. I'm not getting in the mud. I can, I can grow plants, but I'm not, that's my focus is, is honoring what you guys have done and creating something of value and creating something that can be a little, You know, wind in your ear, a little, just a little moment of happiness while you're hitting that bowl or twisting up that, that, that joint.

1:07:56SpeakerI feel like that.

1:07:57Etienne FontanGo forth and be saucy, he says.

1:08:02Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI feel like that describes the exploration of just fermenting and regenerative farming and building your soil and hugelkultur and making all these layered beds and all that. We just are like, wow, look at all these ingredients we can make soil out of. And holy shit, look at the flavor coming off this. This is not... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:08:51Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineHow did you survive the fire and how are you doing this year and everything? I know you got like sweated on really hard in Trinity County and how did it affect your harvest and how you feeling right now? It looks like you're at the coast, which is nice.

1:09:06SpeakerYeah, I escaped the fire unscathed yet again. I've been at the same place for 10 years and I feel like I've dealt with fire more than half the years there, but the last three have been pretty brutal, so it's definitely getting old, but yeah, doing fine. Place made it. Fire, I think, is still burning as of yesterday, but we got some rain this morning, so I'm hoping it kind of put it out, but just part of life in California now, especially Trinity County.

1:09:37SpeakerAnd that was the lightning complexes? Yeah, man, it was crazy. There was like, you know, That night, it was like hundreds of lightning strikes all on like a really small isolated area, like really, really small. And I like lit 15 fires right outside Willow Creek. And it was crazy. I was like. Every year it gets worse. It's like, you know, it's like, oh, it's close. And then it gets closer.

1:10:02SpeakerAnd then these fires now become 150,000 acres or now they're like really close to town or there's multiple. It's just like over and over again that that immediate area, the Willow Creek area has had it really rough these past two years. So definitely feeling for all the farmers there really bad just because, you The nature of the market isn't super great. And then to have mother nature kind of like throw you curve balls is just like literally the death blow.

1:10:29SpeakerI feel like for a lot of people where we had a really late spring, it was really cold and it kind of fucked up people's depths pretty bad. A lot of the structure was off, like small flowers, twiggy stuff, you know, so that was tough. And then the fires came in and it's like, You know, it costs a lot of money. A, it's like your livelihood being threatened every day, which the stress is just unbelievable.

1:10:54SpeakerBut like it costs money to deal with wildfire. I don't know, you know, I'm sure people do realize, but there's just all this extra stuff you have to deal with, you know, that like you don't really anticipate. So it's like it's definitely a hard year for farmers in that area. I'm really feeling for them, you know. Houghton Ponick has a question for you. He says, given all the fires, how much longer do you think the Emerald Triangle is really viable for long term cannabis production?

1:11:19SpeakerThe climate is only going to get worse. Do you think it will shift growing to the north? You know, it's this real question, you know, like it's hard to say, you know, I can't predict the future. I will say it does like wildfires going away anytime soon. You know, I tell myself, like, the same place twice, but it actually did in that sense. So, like, we had fire just to the south of us last year.

1:11:51SpeakerNow it's just to the north of us. And even with all that burned, it's like there's still lots more to burn.

1:12:00SpeakerIt's hard, you know, do I think it's financially viable for big business to be in Humboldt County? I don't even know if that makes sense, to be honest. Like, I don't think big business belongs in Humboldt County in my eyes. The place for mom and pops, like farmers who live here and they're so rooted in the community. Like even with all this stuff, a lot of people leaving.

1:12:22SpeakerSo it's like, yeah, I think cannabis will continue to go on personally forever because it's just part of our culture.

1:12:33Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineCan you tell us about some of your hype strains or something that did kind of turn out sweet this year and all that? Why?

1:12:41SpeakerYou guys are in Canada. You're all talking like I like harvested weed and stuff already. Like it's only like September like 18th over here. I haven't chopped a single branch. Like I had some people hitting me about the rain. Like, oh, I'm going to harvest it all. Like a lot of my stuff like triggered later this year for whatever reason. And I'm looking at like Halloween, like, you know, November harvests and like, Luckily, you can usually get away with that in Trinity County, especially these last few years.

1:13:13SpeakerLast year was wet and kind of went to shit quick, but this year is looking pretty good. We got a storm going on right now that's calling for like a couple inches, but I'm hoping it then kind of turns around and is nice for the rest of the season. But, uh,

1:13:27Collin PalmerAgain, my farm's small.

1:13:29SpeakerI don't have a farm. Like, as I always, I have a garden. So, like, I don't really have the stresses that, like, all my friends have. Like, you know, living in the heart of the triangle and balancing between Humboldt and Trinity County, you know. Aaron Wiggins, Aaron Wiggins, All right.

1:14:00Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, that could be a teaching in itself, though, you know what I mean? Just just hearing that, you know, you're going to be around doing the same thing in five years, you know, check yourself and what you're involved in. So that's cool, though, because sometimes it takes getting, you know, steps and everything to get where you're going and everything.

1:14:17SpeakerBut and I feel like that last question about. you know is cannabis still going to be grown in the triangle i just it's the big question that humanity has dealt with in migratory patterns of crops you know we we know that corn has traveled all over the place and was it because corn was so popular or is it because you know different climates changed and soils got blown out or Thank you for joining us today.

1:14:56SpeakerAnother big change in the earth. Who knows if it always happens or if it's something that's just happening right now. But either, you know, humans are just always going to be chasing the good soil and the good sun because we get our food from the earth. And a lot of people don't necessarily recognize that. And now all of us recognize the importance of medicine from the earth.

1:15:19Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd I think Steve is right. I mean, there's a desertification Yeah, sort of happening in California. It's crazy. Like, it's amazing how dry it can be down there. But I'll just say from a fire perspective, like British Columbia can get gnarly with fires. And we had one really close to our community recently. So, you know, it's the fire thing is like trees. And okay, so I think we should do less fires.

1:15:46Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineBut I don't know. Hey, Josh, are you? Can you hear John? If you have to say something, Daniel, go for it.

1:15:53SpeakerYeah, I mean, they're talking about the desertification of the West. I mean, we're the logging of the planet. You know, here in California, there was an old growth rainforest. And in the Western United States used to have eight times more surface water because of beavers. And even where there are beavers, there's not apex predators anymore. But like so many beavers have been hunted for pelts or like the farmers in California, like in some of like the Central Valley area, they took the beavers out because they would mess with their irrigation and stuff.

1:16:23SpeakerSo yeah, I mean, it's wild what we have to deal with and fire is one of the roots of it. But I look in the forest here, you can walk, I'll show you my son. And I was like, look at, you know, he was like, how can we get the creeks to flow more? Cause the creeks are dry, except for the headwaters. And I was showing him the old growth stumps that were taken and they're so well spaced out.

1:16:44SpeakerAnd then we had this like thick forest. Yeah. And then I got to go definitely help my brother. And I just wanted to say that, you know, the, the, the guy I study from, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:17:29SpeakerGrim fairy tales of the world that we grew up in, but hopefully they'll be telling their grandchildren or somewhere down the line of the seven generations. Um, yeah, it's, it is interesting in the chain. I mean, now cannabis was like the last outpost and it's been, we're all in the belly of the beast now. And oh, it didn't. Oh no. And then I'm, I'm not going, Out the back end, we're going to all find a way to cut our way out of this.

1:18:01SpeakerAnd death is the soil that roots life. That's what I, when I see the chaos in the world, I see compost. I see rich soil. Anyway, love you guys. Was that Yogananda Pramanasa you were dropping there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been studying his teachings for 14 years. Yeah, man, I probably read his book maybe 15 or so years ago, Autobiography of a Yogi. Yeah, he does lessons that come in the mail, like you get two every two weeks for like a couple years.

1:18:39SpeakerVery cool, very cool. Don't hear too many people dropping Yogananda's name. Yeah, go ahead. Gil, you never mentioned any of those hype-ass strains that you were going to be harvesting.

1:18:52SpeakerOh, that's funny, man. No, dude, I got some cool shit from fucking Seed that, like, that's what I'm most excited for. Like, for clones, you know, I got some guava skittles, some sticky papaya, that motor breath papaya. I'm doing a little bit of that gush, man. It seems like that's going to be, like, a super popular strain that everyone's growing this year, but I hear it, dawg.

1:19:19SpeakerI got kombucha six, some honey bananas. I got a bunch of cool seeds from that flying lion dude in Nevada County. His like Slurinate and Nasty Lemonade. They're all like dosy and like lemonade crosses and trying to remember what else.

1:19:44SpeakerI got some cool Citrus 25 from Graham, Mr. Bob Hemphill, Crickets and Cicada, that seed company runs with his wife. He like gave them to me like, I feel like a couple years ago in like a sandwich bag when I ran into him one time. And then like when I seen him this spring and I was getting all his puck crosses that I'm really excited about. Go on, sorry.

1:20:06SpeakerOh no, I was just saying, yeah, I was talking about this one. But yeah, I'm excited about those pucks. There's some really cool stuff in there. That stuff's really granular where I really think there's some like hash potential in a lot of those. But so yeah, he gave me another pack of that Citrus 25. It's like a Northern Lights cross that he thinks is hashy. I'm excited about those.

1:20:28SpeakerIt's like orange turps, but they seem like they'll hash. And the thing that I'm probably most pumped about is all this Tallyman stuff that a friend up in Oregon made. Friends with Archive, but it's basically Talimon to Rainbow Belts, Talimon to that Astrius, that Chem D, GB6 Tricks. Talimon's a dumper too. Yeah, man. They said theirs is like an 8%er supposedly, man. So I'm excited about those.

1:21:01SpeakerThey crossed it to the honey bananas and the jungle cake. There's some, there's some cool crosses there for sure. It's, you know, I just have them chucked out there. I kind of just put them in this one patch. They don't get really big or anything. It's just like an opportunity for me to kind of like walk around and smell them and check them out. Hopefully find something cool in them.

1:21:21SpeakerBut Yeah, I'm really excited about the Taliban, the Taliban, honey bananas.

1:21:25Collin PalmerI'm sure that'll be fire. I'm excited.

1:21:27SpeakerThey smell good, but yeah, like I said, they're looking like they're going to go forever, man. Definitely going to be a long time, but I'm excited. Yeah, no, it sounds like a pretty tasty menu. Fuck, I'm excited. I'm not even in the same country. Are you, are you going to be, uh, cause I remember last year, I think we reached out to you last year about legends and I don't think you were able to, Come down.

1:21:54SpeakerUm, dude, I don't, I don't, I don't know if I remember, uh, I can't remember the timing of it. A lot of times it's like hard for me to get out of town. I'm like one of those dudes who like kind of stays stuck behind the redwood curtain, dude.

1:22:08Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineLike, uh, he's an ice book. It's hard to get out of the forest. Yeah.

1:22:14SpeakerLast year it was in November, right by Thanksgiving. And then now we've, for that reason, we've kind of pushed it into the first, the first weekend of December now. So it gives people a little more time. So yeah, I'd love to, I'll DM you and see you. Please do, dude. Please do.

1:22:30Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineMake a pilgrimage. Hey, Josh, what kind of herb are you standing in front of? And welcome, Craig. We love you. Looking forward to hearing from you and Colin and everyone we haven't heard from yet. We'll try and just hit each person.

1:22:45CraigHey, hey, how you guys doing? So good to be here with y'all. I got some, actually some coffee right here. I don't know if Kai is on the... On the call, but I didn't let them go a little bit longer, but we're just getting dumped on right now. And they're just in the window. A lot of our crops like perfectly in the window right now. And, you know, I was going to freeze some of it, but that's what's cool about just kind of the nice thing about hash for us is that we can kind of diversify our crop.

1:23:16CraigYou know, it's nice to do a little bit of frozen and a little bit of a little bit of, you know, cured and Just kind of play around with it. We like to do a lot of our own genetics here and seems like people are really into like small batch rosin, you know, a lot of our stuff. I mean, I'm interested in things that dump, of course, but a lot of times I'm kind of more into like what kind of flavors we can find that that's not out there.

1:23:43CraigThat's, you know, small batch or, or I guess niche, as you could say, because we've sort of been discovering with the legal market with the new market and all this craziness you know if everyone's growing pushments you know the dispensary can't have like like five pushments from five different farms but you know if we have like a papaya valley goo nobody has that um because a lot of times yeah a lot of people just want variety i mean i can tell you what's my favorite strain right now but it could change tomorrow or Even if there's a strain I don't think I like, maybe the next day it works with my body chemistry in a different way.

1:24:28CraigSo we're just kind of playing around. I'm just super grateful to be in this position, you know, and have some recognition of being like in the Dem Pure community. People always reach out to us and they're like, hey, love what you do, like love to support the DEM community. And it's always such a beautiful thing to hear that. We're just putting one foot in front of the other.

1:24:52CraigJust keep going. And I love this plant. Like Marcus was saying about the pizza, man, that resonates with me big time. It's pouring rain out here, but there's nowhere else I'd rather be than in the garden. You know, it's like, it's fun. And like wine, it's like, this is putting a mark on like this year's crop. You know, we can say, oh, 2022, we had that like huge rain and it's still summer.

1:25:21CraigAnd, you know, it doesn't really phase us because our genetics can hold up. We might have like a little bit of mold here and there. But, you know, for the most part, like Josh, you were saying healthy soil, like regenerative ecology practices, you know, for the most part, I feel like the plant can really feel our intentions and We get good yields. Even this year, we were kind of wanting to scale down a bit and do most of the work ourselves and keep it real, real boutique style.

1:25:53CraigAnd it seems to be working out pretty nicely. Our kids are a little older now, so we're able to do like, you know, 95% of the work on our own.

1:26:06Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd are you, Craig, Craig, are you working with Nasha? And are both you working with Nasha? Or I couldn't remember if that was true.

1:26:16CraigNasha's been doing some, I think they kind of stick to Humble. We're in Mendo. I've spoken with them. They sounded interested, but it seems like we're not really in their radius. But yeah, we do Fresh Frozen. We've been doing Fresh Frozen with a couple, with Surprise Surprise. We have a couple of rosins out and we might be working with a couple other rosin companies this year.

1:26:44SpeakerThat's cool. Yeah, it's cool to see a lot of the farmers up in the triangle right now. It's a really exciting time as a hash maker. I'll say that just simply because The nature of the market has people looking other avenues basically for, you know, more revenue. And more than ever, people are diversifying, like Josh was saying, and freezing stuff, looking to work with hash makers, you know, doing whatever they can kind of at this point.

1:27:15SpeakerSo it's cool to see all the different people now prepping material for it. And it's just nice to see, um, All the different hash genetics being made. And there's a lot like exciting things as bleak as it is at times. It's also exciting to me, like I said, currently to see all that's going on. And it's the rain kind of makes things a little interesting as well, because a lot of people do do the fresh frozen where I feel like last year was like the first year that we really experienced tons of rain during the harvest.

1:27:49SpeakerAnd a lot of people were trying to freeze their their material. And, you know, the materials sold by the fresh frozen pound and water is heavy. So that's got to be a factor when you're buying material or, you know, working out some kind of split or whatever you're doing. So it's always funny to see the challenges that the rain adds. Last year it rained so hard, I feel like it kind of reduced some of my yields overall.

1:28:16SpeakerWhen I was like scoping live plants, the apex of the plants had like less heads on them than as you move down towards like, you know, the lower stuff. But it was literally days on days of torrential downpour and the sun never came back out and it was just a wrap. So You know, hopefully the storm passes and the weather gets nice again. But as Josh said, it's just like parts of it.

1:28:37SpeakerIt's parts of being a farmer where you'll just remember, oh, yeah, that one year that rain came in the middle of September. And there's always challenges. It's just always going to be something, you know, whether it's pests or weather, it's just part of it and kind of keeps it exciting and nerve wracking and all that.

1:28:58SpeakerTotally.

1:29:02SpeakerI think I want to show a real quick clip because we're talking about preparing material for solventless extraction. And I'm trying to figure out how I can do this without, it wants me to make it full screen, but that's just way too big. And then I can't, see if I can make this a little smaller. No, I cannot. All right. I'm going to try and share this anyway.

1:29:31SpeakerIt's a very short clip. This is McIntyre Farm in British Columbia in the Okanagan. And this is them flash freezing their material on the field. Let me know if you guys can. You probably won't be able to hear it, but you should be able to see it.

1:30:03SpeakerHe's talking about freeze drying the cannabis as it comes off the field.

1:30:09SpeakerYeah, those are like those cryo freezers. I've seen some of those for sale from like the BHO days where people are kind of like trying to just get rid of them where you can kind of come up on them for like a quarter of the price they were. A lot of big needs. Are the plants manicured at all? I was going to ask the same thing.

1:30:31SpeakerTo a degree. I mean, these guys still have a lot to learn. Let me find where we are here. Oh, here we go. Stop sharing. You can check that out at McIntyreCreek.com. I just like the footage of the, you know, those little cryo conveyor belts of the plants going in. Yes, they definitely could have...

1:30:55SpeakerHere, trim those leaves a lot better, but just the idea that there's at least some companies already in the knowledge of understanding that preserving volatile organic compounds is important. You know, and a lot of people, they ship this stuff at room temperature. They have no interest in making it cold. And this is one of the things we've had difficulty in Canada, when the chain of custody is with me, My hash is at minus 20 to minus 40 degrees all the time.

1:31:24SpeakerLike once I've made it, it's in a freezer and it's just staying very cold. I'm preserving those volatile organic compounds. The second it leaves my facility, unless I pay a ton of money, sure, I could probably get it shipped in a, in a, in a reefer that's, that's cold. But what's going to happen is it's going to get to where it's going to one of the provinces, and then they're just going to put it in a warehouse.

1:31:46SpeakerAnd so there's been problems with that where People are growing decent cannabis. People are making nice products with it. And then it's sitting like going right from a freezer to like, you know, 100 degree Fahrenheit warehouse because it's the middle of summer. And oh, there's been a problem with the barcode. This is something that happened to my own hash. The hash was like white gold colored when I shipped it out.

1:32:12SpeakerAnd when people were buying it, it was like completely dark. It literally cooked in this warehouse for three days. Um, and then you've got to, you've got to kind of deal with that lack of control in the chain of custody. And it's, it's kind of a big deal. Like when you're talking about pairing your material for, for harvest, uh, you know, preparing it for the hash makers versus the guys that are putting it into apes or pre-rolling joints.

1:32:37SpeakerThose are all different preparations, but now, you know, we do what we do and there's no more of that, like from the farmer to the hash maker, we can really control. The environment of which the cannabis and the resin sits in. But the minute we get it to market, you know, I go into these stores in Canada and they all have their drinks in coolers. And these drinks have like two milligrams, five milligrams, 10 milligrams.

1:33:05SpeakerAnd that's what they're choosing to use their cold space for, to make these drinks cold while the hashes and the flowers are all sitting at room temperature. And maybe they're sitting there for a while. Who knows? It could be weeks. I don't know. But by the time someone buys it, you know, combined with the fact that for a very long time in Canada, people were buying very, you know, we were regulated.

1:33:26SpeakerSo you have to buy packaging that is regulated. You don't just get to pick what you like. It has to be agreed by the government. And the things they were allowing and regulating were very poor packaging once. One of them in particular was, you know, it was the seal on top of right here. There'd be a little seal that go over it and that's supposed to be sealing your jar of nugs.

1:33:48SpeakerAnd what would actually happen is the volatile organic compounds would pressurize inside the container.

1:34:03Etienne FontanDarling freeze.

1:34:04Collin PalmerYeah, he froze for everyone, I think.

1:34:07Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineHe got musked. Musked out. While being replaced with... He's back. He's back.

1:34:13Collin PalmerYou froze for everyone.

1:34:15SpeakerYeah, you got a Starlink in your link. Where did I freeze off? You were like the seal. You're talking about the seal. The seal, so that seal was getting consumed by the volatile organic compounds and pushing out, you know, the pressure of the jar. I'm sure you've seen it where it lifts up and bubbles up. Those compounds, those volatile organic compounds, they're volatizing at like room temperature and colder.

1:34:42SpeakerAnd so they would consume the glue or whatever material they were using to stick that to the top. Little microscopic fissures would be blowing out the volatile organic compounds, replacing it with oxygen. And it was all giving a really bad name to the people who were producing these products. Some of these people like from the black market that came to grow cannabis, they just wanted to get legal, immediately started getting attacked like they were big licensed producers.

1:35:11SpeakerAnd there's very much a narrative in Canada that legal weed is shitty weed, that there's no way that you'll ever make it good legally, even though these people literally support every other industry in the world. Like where they buy their t-shirts and where they get their food and where they get everything happens this same way. But for some reason, we're very, we're very, you know, and I get it.

1:35:37SpeakerWe're sensitive when it comes to the cannabis plant that we've been stewarding for all of these years. And so I still believe that legal cannabis, federally legal cannabis here in Canada can be good cannabis. I've met enough cool craft growers at that unicorn cup. I saw some beautiful products. But there does seem to be powers that be the same way they're in California, just trying to drive the industry into the ground, trying desperately, like they didn't realize that like by jailing us for decades at a time and, you know, shooting our dogs and taking our children away and really going back to even in Cairo, the, the, from the hash church, legends of Carrefour there, wrenching out the Sufis teeth with pliers.

1:36:22SpeakerIf they had, Cannabis or hashish in their belly, the hash eaters, like none of these things work. We never stop. Like those are the most, like what can you do to someone that is more personal than taking their children and wrenching out their teeth and putting them in a cage for a decade at a time? None of that stopped us. I don't know why they think trying to tank these industries are going to stop us either.

1:36:47SpeakerI also, like Daniel, look at the chaos as like compost We are seeds. The more they try to bury us, the more we grow up through the chaos and produce tasty, loud things that attract people's attention. They're not getting rid of us anytime soon, so that's my opinion. We were born in the darkness. Amen. That's right.

1:37:12Etienne FontanDid anybody else find it ironic that you froze while talking about Fresh Frozen?

1:37:17SpeakerThat was awesome.

1:37:19Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI did like that, actually.

1:37:23Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineGreg, you've got a big harvest down there. What's going on in Humboldt? Are you getting the same rain? How's the coyote blue looking? What's your favorite hash varietal this year? And is Nasha working out good? What's up? Love to your family always.

1:37:39SpeakerYeah, yeah, yeah. Good morning, everybody. Sorry I was late. It was a good swell coming in. So my daughter and I went and got some waves this morning. Actually thought I'd see Gil out there and looks like he was here instead. But yeah, harvest has been going really, really well. We run seven different cultivars. So that gives us timing. And that also lets us, over the years, we've learned that, you know, what's the saying?

1:38:08SpeakerYou can only pound so many pounds of crap into a five pound bag. Well, so many farms don't scale according to their drying space or their curing space. So we have a limited space there. So we go with different cultivars. So they come off at different times. So we can really maximize The full potential of our farm. So the coyote blue, yeah, we're done. We took the second round yesterday and she's in.

1:38:38SpeakerI left like two plants out there. I always like to test a couple of varieties that I see out there. So I left two full plants, see how they push on through the rain. But for the most part, yeah, the barn is full and that's ready. And coyote blue is not a hash, not a hash cultivar at all. But we have a really good flower market for it.

1:39:01SpeakerAnd we're actually going to be doing some Coyote Blue gummies, strain-specific gummies through Soulful. So super excited about that. And some other things we're running is Guava Gift through Green Source and Kushkirk. So that's the second year for that. Baron did really, really well with our rosin. It was kind of like one of those outliers. It was like, ooh. barely produced enough but oh my god after after it sat for a minute the terps were just super super nice and after running it through the whole season um through sales and everything that uh the the consumers really liked it so um we ran that again this year um cherry valley dogs become a staple from bio vortex um that one is just fruit and gas and really does well in our flower market and dumps What else did we run?

1:39:59SpeakerStrawberry bananas become a staple on our farm. Like first run, we always run the strawberry banana. You know, for our dep run, we're just running cold frame hoop with pretty much nothing. T. Nothing but infrastructure just to pull the cover. So we pull off that run in like, you know, mid to late July. And that strawberry banana, you know, that was bred for a hothouse. So it comes off really good.

1:40:26SpeakerWe'll, we'll throw a shade canopy over it to even keep those turps a little more, you know, I have all these little things I do that in my mind, I think they work, right? So I'll throw some shade over that like two weeks before harvest and pull that one off. What else did we run the first round? Man, my mind, oh, gush mints. We had to do a little fill in because we couldn't get all the cultivars we wanted.

1:40:56SpeakerSo we ran a little bit of gush mints. Man, that was phenomenal. Really, really happy with it. And then we ran a little, Double OG Chem just for our flower market. And then this round, the replant, and we do, our second round is a set it and forget it, we call it, where we're not doing any sort of deprivation. And the set it and forget it round is papaya bomb and rainbow belts.

1:41:20SpeakerSo we're working closely now directly with Purple City Genetics. And those guys just put out fire, right? So anything that's in our light depth situation, which is about 2,500 square feet, Aaron Wiggins, Chiropractic Surgery, Chiropractic Surgery, Chiropractic Surgery, Chiropractic Surgery, Chiropractic Surgery,

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1:42:13SpeakerAaron has signed up for two larges and a small or two larges and a medium for freezers. And everything we have, we're going to do just a micro batch of fresh frozen. And that's about as big as we can go. And we know scarcity drives the market. So our SKUs are flying off the shelf, which is really good in this day and age. But I say that's as big as we can go because we're off the grid, right?

1:42:37SpeakerAnd we don't want to fire up a bunch of generators to do this whole process where If we bring those freezers onto the farm like a week before we need them, we'll fill them with water jugs and get them, get some ballast in there. And that way we're not pulling a lot of power all at once. And if we have a little hiccup in the night where power cuts out because our batteries gave up, it's not going to be a big deal.

1:43:03SpeakerAnd we're running the two bigs and the small so we can go in and out while we're harvesting into the small. Aaron Wiggins, We're also feeling what you're talking about, Marcus, like the supply chain from manufacturing, from the lab to the market. I don't know if Baron was on already. He mentioned he was going to be jumping on, but man, there's challenges like

1:43:35SpeakerSome of the big distro companies are like cutting corners or doing the best they can and they send just a box truck and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, man. We can't do that. So. I think it's really what we've always felt strongly about is working with our retail partner that understands what we're trying to do and run these small batches with the small vans and really nurture that market.

1:44:01SpeakerAnd we're finding that consumers are willing to drive past other shops to come to the shops that care. So we're still the only place you can get our flowers still only at Soulful. But our resin and pre-rolls, you can get anywhere where Baron's working, you know, Nasha extracts. And we're keeping it in that loop. And so far, you know, knock on wood but we're still grinding and we're still doing it and we still got a smile on our face um and that's you know pretty much the story we got going right now and you know a lot of the other guys i heard talking this morning talking about the rain and nuances you know that identifies the vintage right so when you go you know 2021 that vintage was this yeah right

1:44:50SpeakerAnd with resin and hash, you know, this is where Humboldt County, Mendocino County is going to shine finally. Like we've been producing for resin specifically for five, six years now. And we're just honing in our skills even more. And we just feel that those plants that can have full season, Adam Dizzle, Nick, Skully Vibes, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm, Storm,

1:45:41SpeakerThe other thing that Baron does, and I speak of him a lot because he's been such a vital partner of ours. You know, Josh from Moongazer was saying, well, we've reached out and Baron's just kind of working with Humboldt Farms. And I think a lot of that is really important. Like Baron kind of feels like bells down in Mendo at Heritage. You know, they're handling Mendo Farms, right?

1:46:04SpeakerAnd let those local ecosystems evolve. And let's not drive product way back up to Humboldt to wash it, to send it back south, right? Let's really work within these ecosystems and support the farmers that are, you know, within a shotgun's blast of each of these manufacturing facilities. Macrobiotic cash making. Well, it makes the product more affordable too. Like if you're not, because if you look at it on a manufacturing side, if the product's getting transported all the way across state, you've added like $1,700 to that load of material that's going to get ran.

1:46:42SpeakerThat's all going to come out in the cost, you know, and what that's going to be sold for. So you're right. I love that idea. I've always like, I support the shit out of that because it makes so much more sense. And product grows well in that area. There's no shortage of manufacturers in the area. No shortage of distributors that can get it down to the shops from there.

1:47:00SpeakerSo it really should work that way too, you know? Yeah. And one thing we've always done is we've always tried to look ahead as to when we're going to need transport. And we've never just worked with one company, right? We always think of it as FedEx, UPS, who's going where, when, and when can we jump on when they're already doing something? So we have Redwood Roots literally at the bottom of our road and they've got Aaron Wiggins, Aaron Wiggins, Aaron Wiggins, Aaron Wiggins,

1:47:50SpeakerWell, that transparency in the scheduling allows you to do business with them, you know, and if they don't have that, it makes it really tough because then, you know, it's a service. So, yeah, believe me, I deal with that logistical stuff all day long. It's insane. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I I would love to get product down to LA. You know, our flower, we have so many people that are anxious to, you know, enjoy our flower down there.

1:48:19SpeakerI just don't see the logistics happening in this market we're in at this moment, right? Maybe someday in time, but at the moment, Soulful's about to open up across from Golden Gate Park. Like we're pretty much like, you know, scarcity drives our market and we're not going to expand to hit these needs. We're just going to be out and then we'll be calling our friends and neighbors and having them engage in the system that we've, you know, helped nurture and steer.

1:48:47SpeakerSo one last thing I want to leave you guys before I, you know, step off here. We did a farm tour with one of Barron's long childhood friends and He's Himalayan Clarity on Instagram. And they're friends from India. And he has this business where he, he, he, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:49:42SpeakerOh, dude. How about the Kunzite from Afghanistan? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:49:49Etienne FontanFor sure.

1:49:49SpeakerThat's sick.

1:49:51Etienne FontanTrue stoners. Yeah.

1:49:54SpeakerI just bought one the other day. I can't even talk shit. Like a fire.

1:49:59Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineOh, bro. Crystals, trichomes, crystals. Put them in the soil. Grow them underneath the plant. I can't wait to charge them up on the solstice.

1:50:09SpeakerFuck yeah. Beautiful, beautiful crystals. Himalayan. What was his name? Himalayan Clarity. Himalayan Clarity. Makes sense that it was Clarity after seeing that crystal. Those are beautiful. What's going on with Best Friend Farms?

1:50:31Bryan Best Friend FarmsOh, just hanging out up here in Maine.

1:50:32SpeakerIt looks like you're doing more than just hanging out.

1:50:39Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, yeah, just I'm here alone on the farm today, but was doing some last minute pollination, select pollinations before the rain comes in and a little bit of spot leap, you know, checking and pulling before things come in on the farm. But yeah, I've just been hunkered down, going out at kind of small team focus this year, trying to keep everything really efficient. and streamlined really paying attention to the soil and the cost down on it coming from the farm kind of like simple diet for the plant and it's worked really well this year so have some cool stuff to share you know later on when i see more of the finish but uh we kind of focused in on on our tea rhythm with it for the season besides healthy top dressing and refurb of the beds.

1:51:34Bryan Best Friend FarmsWe have good living soil after, you know, the five years here. So, excuse me. So we've kind of paid attention to keeping the bioactivity alive, feeding the soil on a continuum. For the cost down where we really weren't paying for much for outside input, but local liquid fish inputs that we've kind of gone back to a more whole food diet with fish meal meets compost with a slurry checked in every week.

1:52:04Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd anyway, kind of simple for costs down and I'm seeing really good results from like, well, I call it surf and turf because we're just very simple once a week hit and Yeah, results are we carried great health with the soil at the point that it was at through the year and so far for just a really minimal cost down and I'm happy with the health and we paid a lot of attention this year to the early onset plant cleanup with like cleaning the bottom third of the plant really well early on three stages of cleaning and

1:52:40Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, a lot of stuff going on. A lot of new strains for hatch and a lot of new F1 spread actually already. And I'm kind of like paying attention to some stuff when it comes to the... Well, the really, really loud terpenes that come up front, noticing that they don't necessarily always wash the greatest for plants with the energy divided into the terpenes up front, really primary.

1:53:06Bryan Best Friend FarmsSo I'm paying more attention to some of the what maybe like a subtle nuance, secondary terps that show up where they're not as loud even up in the mid flower, but they seem to come in, but not overpowering into the late session of flower. And I've kind of seen some other cultivars that people are having success with at a couple other gardens that seem to be that I like that sticker.

1:53:32Bryan Best Friend FarmsI'm just reading that mark. And that's going on that at least when I did like the mid flower check on some types that are fairly common. So yeah.

1:53:46SpeakerTasty Treats. What about when we're always, we still always talking about terpenes, but we know that some of those more funky, intense smells are actually thiols and thioates. Are we getting close to moving into volatile organic compounds? Are we still going to use terpenes as the lingo? Because I hear everyone talking, and I'm not against it, I just feel like after Nick dropped all that knowledge a year ago on Hash Church about thiols and thioates and esters and Thank you.

1:54:15SpeakerThank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:54:43SpeakerHow much of what we think are terpenes are actually different volatile organic compounds? Just a thought. I have some pure thiols right now, and I was thinking of repeating some of my earlier work where I tested each of the individual terpenes with 25 milligrams of pure THC.

1:55:14SpeakerI suspect that the thiols, I think there's a small chance that they may contribute to the synergy the way terpenes do in being able to affect the strength or possibly modulate the effects, the type of subjective effects. I have some pure thiols now. Skunk Man Sam quote. Who the fuck else in this room would have said that sentence? It's so ridiculous. Thank you for being you. And you should recreate those.

1:55:55SpeakerDo you realize that was like 22 plus years ago that you did those experiments in your apartment? It's hard to remember the world before the terpene knowledge explosion because we knew some cannabis was better and we also knew that a lot of the better stuff smelled better, but Nobody really, really was able back in those days to show scientifically that the terpenes effect can both modulate and some potentiate THC and also act in synergy with the other cannabinoids.

1:56:41SpeakerWell, I feel blessed that I got to do that experiment with you almost 20 years ago in your apartment when you pulled out all those pure cannabinoids and all those terpenes. I just was like, holy shit, I am in the right place at the right time. I knew it was historical while I was doing it. The fact that it was 20 years ago actually makes me feel old.

1:57:03SpeakerBut it's awesome. Thank you for that. And please do do that with the files and invite cool, wonderful people from the community as you always do, because 20 years from now, we'll be talking about that. Well, they definitely are incredibly more potent when it comes to volatilizing and filling the room with a run over dead skunk type smell.

1:57:30Etienne FontanSo Skunk Man, if you could take one thiol with 25 milligrams of THC, which one is it currently?

1:57:40SpeakerI'd have to look at my list again because I'm pretty spaced out. But there is one which strongly I suspect is, and that's the one I have, so.

1:57:55SpeakerThe skunk one is N-butane-1-thiol. N-butane-1-thiol is one of the three that make up skunk. This is from Nick Ziegler. Yeah.

1:58:07Etienne FontanYou say that to all the girls.

1:58:09SpeakerI'd have to look on the bottle because I don't remember off the top of my head.

1:58:13Collin PalmerAnd the sulfur compounds that, you know.

1:58:16SpeakerBut I've been warned over and over and over, do not open this in my house.

1:58:26Collin PalmerNo, I think so. So someone in the in the audience is really knowledgeable. Sharif is amazing human being who does a ton of research in terpenes. He's he's calling out to GC times GC mass spectrometer to see everything. And I think, you know, he's calling out it right. You know, we just don't have the ability to see all these compounds and quantify them.

1:58:52SpeakerSo you can easily... Well, that's where Nick is.

1:58:56Collin PalmerYeah, no, we're on the right track, right? But I think what Sharif is calling out, there's just not, there's not an assay that's easily, we can't just like plug it in like we can right now with the other terpene classes.

1:59:10SpeakerI wish Nick was here because he spent a decade doing this with Hoss and he put multiple machines together. He spoke about it here in Hash Church. It was like, it was like to the trillions. It was beyond the proton animal. You can easily test for the dials. It's no problem at all.

1:59:30Etienne FontanMuch less what happens once it's ignited in those combinations or those new volatiles that are created that we aren't aware of yet but becomes binders between the lung-brain barrier that creates a chemical reaction in the body.

1:59:49Collin PalmerYeah, I mean, it's, yeah, I'd love to have Nick on and then have also Sharif as well chime in because he, you know, it'd be great to have this conversation broader, but yeah.

2:00:00SpeakerYeah, well, we can do it maybe next week. If Sharif wants to get me his contact info, I'm bcbubbleman at icloud.com and I can reach out to Nick and we can get into more of this volatile organic compound conversation or at least let them get into it. And the rest of us can listen and learn.

2:00:20Collin PalmerYeah, no doubt.

2:00:24SpeakerAlways down for that. There is no doubt that the files contribute to the smell when they're present. But whether or not they contribute to the...

2:00:39SpeakerMedical and or recreational value of cannabis that has yet to be shown.

2:00:46Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAre they volatile when air drying or preserved and freezing like everything else?

2:00:54SpeakerYes, absolutely. Yes, they are. But not as well as terpenes. They're very, very, very volatile.

2:01:06Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineOkay. That's interesting. And Colin, are you in New York?

2:01:14Collin PalmerRight now I'm in Massachusetts and I'll be in New York on Wednesday. Nice. Yeah.

2:01:23Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYes. And we were we are going to be speaking up by Zoom at the Organic Cup in New York.

2:01:32SpeakerOkay.

2:01:32Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineBecause we're not going to be able to go across the border the way that they are right now. And that's just the way we felt like we had, you know, We're so grateful that it was open in a way that we were going to be able to do it, but we just don't feel like it is. So that's going to be unfortunate. But we're also really excited about it, though, to support that movement in New York and on the East Coast.

2:02:01Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd there's so many amazing people involved. All the, you know, the farms that are coming down and the genetics swaps and just the whole like focus in New York as it's blossoming, you know, for an organic cup is really, really sweet. So I'm really excited to see that blossom out there.

2:02:21Collin PalmerYeah, that's yeah, it's going to be great. I've been waiting, as you know, over 25 years for this to happen. And, you know, it's going to be really cool because, you know, there's a lot of a lot of hidden talent that just wants to come out and they want to talk just the same way that I was once scared to to share the things that I loved about all of it, you know, and the things that I was passionate about.

2:02:47Collin PalmerSo I think we're going to see a lot of really cool Just fresh, ignited energy into the scene. I'm excited for that. So, you know.

2:02:59Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd do you feel there'll be a mixture of indoor and outdoor farming because of Northern New York and Central and all that? What's your thought on that?

2:03:10Collin PalmerYeah, I mean, you know, you know, and you guys were talking about the terroir and the Appalachia, you know, New York has microclimates as well. There's really great pockets of areas to grow cannabis and other crops. And, you know, it's been a really good season, you know, well, it's not over yet. But, you know, we have to pay attention to the tropics, you know, this is the time to really pay attention to Africa and what's going to rip off of there and go through, you And up the coast.

2:03:37Collin PalmerAnd then that'll eventually hit us. So I've, you know, over the years been trained to kind of look at that. But it's, you know, the next week we have a hurricane that's kind of forming right now. And we'll see what happens with that. But, you know, now until October 10th is kind of the time that makes or breaks, you know, a good season. So, you know, there's a lot to be seen.

2:03:57Collin PalmerBut thus far, it's been a really good season. Not a lot of rain. It's been really good. So this is kind of like a picturesque season for the East Coast outdoor. And in terms of just What type of growing styles we're going to see? I think we're going to see a bunch. It's New York. New York is going to be, imagine, you know, the way I kind of look at cannabis in New York is like, if I could imagine the streets in New York and all the different types of people, that's the kind of growing styles that we're going to kind of emerge out of all this.

2:04:30Collin PalmerAnd, you know, we're going to see a lot of that personality come through and it'll have its own kind of, you know, its own voice and each kind of style. So it's cool. I'm really excited, man. I'm really excited to see what people bring and people pay attention to different things in different parts of the world. So, you know, I'm curious to see what people are looking at right now.

2:04:57Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, definitely. And just with the way that smoking is in the city right now, I think it's like a lot of fun for people to go to the city and be able to just smoke anywhere. And, you know, the smoking clubs, I know the Astor Club is a lot of fun. Liz has talked about going there a lot. And, you know, some of those smoking clubs are, you know, a lot of fun.

2:05:21Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd so it'd be cool to see, you know, what that experience is like for people.

2:05:26Collin PalmerYeah, that's in there. You know, historically, people have gotten, you know, high quality cannabis in New York for a long time, for decades. There's been always a scene there. I'm sure Sam can speak on that. But it's, you know, I'm excited. I'm just glad you didn't see the diversity. You know, that's the exciting part for me. It's just seeing all the people that are like. You know, maybe I knew them, you know, and we just weren't talking about it together, you know.

2:05:54Collin PalmerSo that's I think that's the coolest part. And then I want to see, you know, just the what people are doing in terms of cultivation. A lot of the farms right now are just doing outdoors. Some people have had the time and the infrastructure to build greenhouses, but not too many of them are actually doing that. So.

2:06:15Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd how is the, is there hash processors and people like starting to look for farms for resin or what do you see in there?

2:06:24Collin PalmerNot yet. I think it's really early and, you know, we don't know what the testing is going to look like yet here. We don't, I know, I'm sure people are putting things aside for fresh frozen, but yeah. We don't know what the testing is looking like. So we've no there's just there's so many unknowns. A lot of the stuff, the guidance hasn't really been given out. So that's the scary part about where the I think the state's at right now is that there's a lot of people have invested a lot of time and money into things and I think it's fresh frozen for a new market like this unless you're you're experienced I think it's a scary thing so it's not I don't know if it's going to be and plus if I really do the math on how many acres are being grown versus how many people are in in population there there's not nearly enough um you know if you really break that down so

2:07:14SpeakerI've spoken to a few groups in New York who are, you know, you're right, it's beyond early, like they don't even really have their licensing, let alone like funding or building. But you know, the people that do have the infrastructure that kind of already grow, even just hemp, they're, they're definitely, you know, talking about getting equipment, you know, I've been talking to them through Whisper Technology and kind of just getting them prepared for an existence where You know, someone said it earlier on, I think it was Donja Gill, you know, you have to, you have to find these elusive pockets of profitability.

2:07:48SpeakerYou have to be able to figure out ways that are maybe, it's not quite as easy as it used to be. It used to be real easy, which created a soft environment. Now people are in this harder environment and they're working much harder for much less payoff. And it's just... Yeah, I see them gearing up and getting ready, but you're right, it's very early. What does it happen?

2:08:10SpeakerAfter January, the licensing will be announced?

2:08:13Collin PalmerNo, that's further out. That's the thing. You have to understand, you know, it's such hard to really explain, but... You know, take everything that's been said and, you know, it's elongated. So we're looking at May of next year for that real the real guidance for like the not just the conditional licenses. That's next year, like middle of next year, maybe May. Maybe May is the soonest that it will come for new guidance on like actual like cultivation licenses and micro businesses, because right now I'm actually giving Some, you know, comments on the micro business licensing right now.

2:08:52Collin PalmerAnd I think that, you know, that could be really interesting. You know, there's some cool paths that could be built through that structure that they're allowing. But the, the conditional, we have to remind ourselves that these two years right now, this 18 months or whatever you want to call it, this is just a conditional. This is not a guarantee. This is just like, here's an opportunity to use your acreage right now for a stop gap and it'll help us and Give you an opportunity to try this, try this out.

2:09:20Collin PalmerSo I don't know, even know how many of these conditionals even actually poured over into real licenses, you know, because that, you know, the license, you know, the whole structure of all this is just still actually super infant, you know. I hope a lot of them, you know, transfer over. So we just don't know who will actually want to.

2:09:42SpeakerYou know, I was going to share something that it's been said a few different ways, but I'll share it in a way that somebody just shared it with me a couple of months ago. And that is good times make for soft humans. Soft humans make for hard times. Hard times make for strong humans. And the cycle repeats itself. So we're in that time right now, right? We just came off of some really good times, a couple of decades slaying it.

2:10:13SpeakerAnd now, now, now, the strong are going to swim their way to the surface and hopefully help pull this whole community through. You know, this community, when I say not just here in Humboldt, but like our global community. Um, and it's moments like this where we can all reach out and discuss our, our triumphs and our wins and our successes and our fails really helps bring us all together and gives us allies, right?

2:10:39SpeakerLike I love it. I love hearing, you know, little whispers of things that are happening, you know, with someone I'm with or someone that someone else is with and, Ooh, I know them and they know them and we're doing something or they're doing something and that's all exciting. So I just appreciate all of you and, and. Marcus, I appreciate you bringing this show together for sure. It's always a pleasure.

2:11:02SpeakerYeah, man. Super, super stoked. Potent Potent Ponics says people in new markets, unfortunately don't understand why the higher end concentrates are worth more. That's the biggest issue with the higher end product, just educating consumers on quality. So I'll speak to this. You know, when you hear him say that he's not talking about our inner community of hardcore hash heads, he's talking about The people who are inevitably going to be the future users of cannabis.

2:11:31SpeakerA lot of them have never used cannabis or dabbling in it now. You know, here in Canada, it's the 60 plus percent of people who don't use cannabis, who aren't using cannabis. But the cannabis industry is sort of trying to say, hey, check this out. Like, it's a better option than alcohol. It's not going to cause you all these different health ramifications. It's a preventative medicine, even though we're not allowed to say that right now.

2:11:52SpeakerLike all of these different things and how how Yeah, it's just, it's a unique situation. What he's saying is very true. What I found is I can, you know, try and release a five star bubble hash or a six star bubble hash out there. But the people who would rather criticize me for releasing products that they have no interest in, you know, dry sifted products, pure hash joints, or the hash hits that we're doing, which are built for convenience, and more importantly, built to build a bridge To that 60% of people who are going to buy a pre-rolled joint.

2:12:25SpeakerThey don't even have rolling papers. They literally have a lighter as their only means of paraphernalia. We wanted to create a product for them that could build a little bridge so they could kind of come on over to the extract world and just check it out. And believe it or not, if you want to get their attention, you don't do it with six star fucking bubble. That shit will terrify them.

2:12:48SpeakerThat's like being like, hey, great person, come try this ayahuasca for the first time. It's going to be really fun. Here, drink through an extra cup. You've got to take them in slow. And so just even like what we think of as like, you know, a dry shifted hash, it's like a single screen hash. My God, Sam would call that a farmer's grade hash. It's not what we are looking for, but it is a great way to create a little bridge where someone can You know, smoke a little bit of hash instead of that paper and glue and maybe flour that's not even that good because they don't know the industry and they're buying pre-rolls from the wrong company and it's milled and it's dried out and it lacks terps.

2:13:29SpeakerAnd, you know, I just want to make a better experience for people who are coming into this to get turned on to something that's special. And if that can lead them to that full melt bubble, And then they can understand instead of have no understanding. Well, they're standing down here trying to get up here and we're not building the steps for them to get up here. We're expecting them to do this giant jump and they're not going to do that regardless of how we want it to be.

2:13:58SpeakerAnd in reality, is that really how you want to turn people on to like the most beautiful, like the strongest, most purest, you know, representation of the plants, the cold water and. Acted. You know, resin or dry sifted resin that's clean to the same level. Those are like up at the same podium when people can't just go there right away. I'm very much the the I'm very much into giving people micro dab.

2:14:26SpeakerI'm very much into trying to give someone an experience where they can still try, but it's micro. And I've done this for, you know, 80 plus year old people. It's like the smallest. I'm like, trust me, you're going to barely blow anything out, but you'll have the taste. You'll experience and more importantly, they'll get over this real fear that isn't discussed or talked about that people have about getting too high off of cannabis.

2:14:51SpeakerIt's a powerful energy and some people, it's just too much to take them to the moon on that rocket ship ride. Like how about hold their hand and walk them around the coast of the ocean down the beach for the first time and then maybe we'll delve into the forest and eventually You know, climb into the Alpine and peak the mountain. But like, holy shit, don't take them up there for a flight.

2:15:14SpeakerYou're their first time. Marcus, it also helps if, because a lot of people that I knew that had not ever smoked, and I may or may not have introduced them, was, uh, Vaporization helps because they don't like combustion. Most of them don't smoke cigarettes. And yeah, vaporization, small little dab hits like you're talking about vaporization really makes it easy for them to try it without, you know, flipping out or anything.

2:15:52SpeakerBut let me add to this. You're right. If they, if I have my 14 fucking things that I need to have to give someone a dab, my Terp Slurper and my three marbles and my fucking bong and my dabber and my temp tech and my Terp timer and my baskets and alcohol and glass jar for cleaning all this shit and dipping it. And then my, you know, Q-tips and like, dude, they have a lighter.

2:16:21SpeakerThese people have a lighter. This is not convenient. It's absolutely ridiculous that all of us are carrying this shit around with us at all times. We're fucking mental, completely mental. And that's the truth. It's okay.

2:16:34Collin PalmerBut hey, Marcus, with that said, man, what are you smoking on? And what's everybody smoking on in this room? Come on, let's bring it back.

2:16:40SpeakerDude, I've got some forum cookies cut hash rosin from Concentrated X. It's absolutely spectacular. I've also been hitting his strawberry banana and his cookies and cream. All of which are beautiful and tasty and delicious. But I also hit Dragonfly Earth Medicines. Is it a guava punch breath you guys put in there? Josh, beautiful greenhouse and plants, by the way. That is not going unnoticed. I should put that as the main part of the screen.

2:17:09SpeakerLet me see if I can just pin that.

2:17:10Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThere you go. We gave you a strawberry, what was it? Yeah, strawberry guava and guava punch. But it was like a, One that we've been working with. So there's some coffee in there and also a little bit of garlic.

2:17:27SpeakerListen, it's really nice. It's as nice as anything. Like that is beautiful resin. You guys knocked that shit out of the park. This is where we grow it. This is our breeding house right here. And it's pretty exciting. Like over here, we've got some syscon times. Let's see. Zellies. And we've got some purple punch right here.

2:17:58Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicinePeople asked us why we why we did like the offset, you know, walk through things just because, you know, we want like that organic flow going. You know, we want a little bit of like that. You know, just we never know where the aisle is going to be and everything. So.

2:18:15SpeakerAnd right here we have some fire glue system. We have some strawberry cream cake. Beautiful.

2:18:21Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe got Terp Wizard. Here's some Terp Wizard. Big up, Connor. Strawberry cream cake, strawberry jelly, as I would have thought.

2:18:31SpeakerConnor's flying into Arcata tonight. He's going to be staying at my place for the next three days helping out. I'm super excited to engage.

2:18:38Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineNice one. Big love, Connor. He's about ready to become DEM here, certified out in Michigan. And we would like to also just shout out the whole Michigan crew. Everyone. I just want to, you know what, let's take a minute. Let's shout out everyone. Everyone, you're awesome.

2:18:50SpeakerEveryone, you're awesome.

2:18:51Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou're all awesome.

2:18:53SpeakerYou're all freaking awesome. And this... We have some coffee cake here. We have some coffee grape cream going on.

2:19:08Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI'll just say that we never have used tea in this greenhouse, only water. And it's only because of the way we built the beds. We had like probably almost two feet worth of mixed rameal branches and chips and woods from the trees and rose bushes and some manure and a little bit, you know, all kinds of green, you know.

2:19:35SpeakerAnd there's a lace wing right here. So awesome. The lace wings are just going off in here. We have a mothership, which is great. It's one of our oldest strains.

2:19:45Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd I'm not saying... The teas are awesome. We have a tea compact. They look at the plants and if you look at them and they're just flat leafed and healthy their whole life, I mean, you just have to give thanks to like the mother and just let it be.

2:20:05SpeakerDamn, I wish your camera was better out there. Those look really nice. It almost looks psychedelic and like a half cartoon, half reality situation on my big screen here. And just Kelly walking through the middle. I want to get to the fire glue in the back. It's so good, dude.

2:20:22Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo good. One of the strains that we're really excited about, if you can see, is this fire glue. I think it was, it may have come from the glue on fire from Steve at Green Life Productions. Big love to Steve at Green Life Productions. It just came out amazing. And then we have the fire glue Cisco. So we have like Dominion Seed Company, Duke Diamond in the place.

2:20:52Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe got...

2:20:58Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWhat's going on here? We got the bait. That's a Terp Wizard Connor.

2:21:07SpeakerThe Royal Purples were early beautiful finishers too.

2:21:13Etienne FontanI don't know about y'all, but I'm getting cotton mouth just looking at these things.

2:21:18SpeakerDude, I know. I want to do like pizza and like hash making. This is going to be my new like restaurant. You come in, you get pizza, but then you got to make hash while you're waiting for your pizza to be.

2:21:35SpeakerYou didn't make the tomato sauce. Sign me up. You know, seeing all this flour is amazing. And like the consumers at the moment have to buy all their herb through a dashboard. And like numbers from a lab test where we're actually like touching our plants and seeing them and breathing them and living with them. It's like that experiential cannabis needs to come into the scene at some point.

2:22:03CraigIt'd be cool if people could come out and like pick out like which plants they like and Oh, and do like a you pick or something like that kind of thing. Like what terpenes speak out to you? That'd be something we could probably do through Soulful potentially too, you know?

2:22:23Etienne FontanI know Ananda Farms in New York, they did that with their hemp plants last year where they actually did a full and pick and pull where people come in. It was done by veterans. And yeah, they're doing it again this year where they grow the plants out and then people just roll on up and they do it as a full family. They cut the plant and take it away because it's a CBD.

2:22:44CraigYeah, just carry it at home.

2:22:46Etienne FontanIt's an amazing situation, I think, because all the regional awareness, it's all the locals coming through and asking what was going on, and they saw the farm, and then they came and were able to ask all their questions, and they make their own bomb and other things like that. Shout out to Sarah Steneff and them and their veterans out there in New York that do that. Much love and respect.

2:23:06CraigThat's right.

2:23:11CraigYeah, just take a few nugs home, dry it, just dry it there. Take a couple of colas, I mean, that'll last you for a while.

2:23:22Etienne FontanYeah, they did it by, you could either take colas or the whole plant. Most people tended to take the whole plant, interestingly enough.

2:23:29SpeakerWhoa, I love it.

2:23:34SpeakerDude, I'm not surprised that people take the whole plant. I've shown a lot of people different places to pick mushrooms. Edible mushrooms, never a problem. Psychedelic mushrooms, eventually some motherfucker goes and digs up the mycelium with a shovel. That's how like crazy it gets. It's just like, dude, just like this. I literally caught my friend digging up the entire mycelium bed of a cyanoscent patch that was a big patch in North Vancouver.

2:24:04SpeakerI was just like, dude, how about to leave some for the next guy?

2:24:15SpeakerAlways leave some for the next guy. Hey, and as speaking of that, as we enter the fall here, this is mushroom season here in Vancouver. In the next like two plus weeks, we'll see the Semmelensiatas, known as the Liberty Caps. We'll see the Stunzies and the Bale Sispens and the Cyanescens, known as the Wavy Caps. They'll all start popping up. Amanita as well, but I'm not so interested in those ones.

2:24:42SpeakerSo if you, yeah. Get out into your forest and wander around. There's some interesting things popping, not to even mention all the amazing winter chanterelles and lobsters and reishis and, you know, cauliflowers and all these incredible mushrooms that are just going to start going off in the forest here soon. It's a really great reason to get out into the forest. And it's just the gift of nature herself we we inoculate um our straw bales that kind of line some of our garden spaces and the wood chips we inoculate it with kingstrafaria and we've been getting beautiful flushes going on right now um and it's just i love having those wine caps around and just it's always a gift when you show up in the morning and there's a whole other flush going on it's it's Amazing.

2:25:35SpeakerIt's amazing. It is. The smile on my face when I picture it is just Inoculate the World. Shout out to Drew from Instagram, Inoculate the West, Inoculate the World. If you don't follow, go follow him. Awesome dude that's really collected an incredible array of score prints in the psilocybin family. You can get them and acquire them and experience them. These little aliens. I'm serious.

2:26:04Etienne FontanHey, I just want to give a quick shout out to our 710 crew. You know, veterans, they have their own usual, their local. So our VAC crew is our local 710 on the hill all week and we will continue to be. So just FYI, we're working it hard for everybody out there. So keep it flowing.

2:26:27SpeakerOh yeah, Marcus, I just wanted to say thank you and this is the coolest church I've ever been to. I haven't been to many churches. The whole cannabis journey for me has been the catalyst to everything good I've learned in the last, you know, 20 years. All the good people I've met. This is a true honor to be here and single source farming has just taught me to search for quality in all aspects of my life and The thing you said about the pizza kind of was a fun old irony because it was like when I used to be at the spot on the hill it was like you couldn't even order a pizza you know and that was one of the sacrifices of being up there for the summer.

2:27:08SpeakerYou know you're growing your good pie you're having your couple turns in the greenhouse and your full term outside and you can't even order a pie when you're tired after like a 12-hour day so I just love that and you know anything where people are really into something they dig that deep and you make a couple Chris Brown, Fun and Not So Fun Sacrifices. And yeah, thank you guys all for everything you do.

2:27:32SpeakerHell yeah, man. Well said. And you know what? We didn't hear much from you. Do you want to tell us about sort of a little bit of your journey and maybe some of your favorite flavors or things that you got on the ground? Yeah, I would love to. For the last decade, I was lucky enough to rent this really cool place up in Los Padres Forest, which is like 805 Santa Barbara area.

2:27:55SpeakerShout out to all the small growers that are still doing their thing there. There's a lot of big money that kind of bullied our really cool small community. And I was lucky enough to go on an organic journey because I was working for an awesome We had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun.

2:28:14SpeakerWe had a lot of fun.

2:28:30SpeakerYeah, a lot of fun stuff like that. I feel like I got saved by the solvent list. I was kind of stuck in the cloud of the BH1 fountain and then some people pushed me into some good things and the solvent list came to life and I realized like CRC, there was a good thing that came from it and that was the tasty jars that were lucky enough to be sitting in front of.

2:28:52SpeakerThere's obviously, Addison's got this treasured

2:28:57SpeakerSo yeah, I have some full terms in the greenhouse that we're pulling right now. We had a little heat wave that kind of fucked us up. Ironically, we have a wall of dragon fruit in one greenhouse and they're just going off because we had that little tropical So there's like 20, you know, a couple dozen dragon fruit in there. And then meanwhile, we're kind of a little trial and error this year, pulling some of the Masonic gear that we popped, like 20 different things from him, pulling them a little early and getting them frozen, did some in-house crosses and working with those, getting them in the freezer, and then was lucky enough to pull some depths this year.

2:29:41SpeakerAnd we're enjoying those jars today. And, you know, pretty small, pretty single source, but just kind of keep at it so that I don't have to work for anyone else. And that's been the journey. So thank you once again. Sounds like a great journey, man. Admiral journey. Thank you. And beautiful gardens, Josh. That was spectacular. You guys just showing that whole thing, the mountains, your backyard. Thank you for sharing that.

2:30:10SpeakerThat was tasty treats.

2:30:15Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineRight on, family. Give thanks. Every day is a blessing. Well, I didn't have to say anything.

2:30:23SpeakerI just sat there half asleep. I know. I was actually just writing.

2:30:28Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI didn't say nothing.

2:30:30SpeakerHe's laying back.

2:30:32Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineHi, uh, has a new family member, you know, baby in his life and, and, and, you know, all these beautiful kids and a superb wife and everything partner. And, uh, so I'm sure he got busy and stuff. So I guess we're lucky we got to see him for the time we did super thankful for Kaya Pacific Northwest roots. If you don't know online, uh, you know, worldwide genetics, Pacific roots, worldwide genetics, just all kinds of stuff.

2:31:00Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineHe's always out there. He's just a, Special person got the Hawaiian Aloha vibes going on along with the Northwest, you know, First Nations kind of roots and stuff. So, you know, it's I love our family is so eclectic and all over the world, really. And, you know, no borders in our family. So, you know, it's it's really cool to hear, you know, little bits from each bioregion and biosphere.

2:31:28Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe have so much love and respect for all you all and what you're doing and putting forth good medicine to the people because we're all out here just trying to survive, putting forth good medicine to the people. And it's you know, it's our mission in life. You know, so, you know, I'm just really stoked. You know, ain't no stopping us now. You know, nothing's going to break our stride.

2:31:50Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou know, everything's keeping on pushing and all those good things and stuff. So we're steady on the grind here at Dragonfly Farm. You know, we have a new grandchild in our life. We've had two home births on the farm. Total... Herbal, cannabis, medicinal mushroom, herbal, you know, no, you know, checking in with nothing but, you know, Mother Gaia. And, you know, we're thankful for that, that mission and Kelly and her midwifery.

2:32:22Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd just, you know, in a time when it can be difficult, you know, it's sweet to see new life. Thank you so much for joining us today.

2:32:56Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou know, there's a lot of good stuff going on, you know, and, you know, it's these kind of people out here that keep the inspiration going and big up to the community who's writing online. You know, there's so many people I would love to personally say their name, you know, or have them on the show. So I would just like to say the show is just everyone's comments.

2:33:19Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThe show is everyone's participation. No one person isn't ahead or behind the other. It's truly a magical fractal team teamwork going on. You know, so, you know, everyone's invited and everyone's on time. You know, for their mission. So go do your best. And, you know, we're getting on in our day. And I have, you know, a bunch of stuff to go tend to in the garden. So I think I might end up signing out right at this moment.

2:33:53Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI'd love to hear maybe some more things from everyone, but just big love from the Dragonfly family, DEM here all the way, all the family members, everyone else, the collective, anyone doing something good, that's what's up. Anyone doing something good, that's what's up. So thank you for listening. Thank you.

2:34:14SpeakerThank you, Josh and Kelly and the whole Dragonfly Earth Medicine crew to help put this last minute hash church together. And I don't mind going until like noon, you know, another 12, 13 minutes. Anyone want to drop the social media or the projects that they're doing or something cool about someone or point us in the direction of someone we could be helping or we should know about.

2:34:37SpeakerWhatever it is, feel free to say it. Joshua, thanks for walking us through your garden. I was tight.

2:34:43CraigYeah, I just I figured I figured I was out here and we could just kind of check out a couple of things. We got going some pumpkin cover crops here and some plants that are falling over. We kind of experience we're kind of experimenting with like less trellising this year and keep it natural.

2:35:01Collin PalmerBut but also these bigger gals over here.

2:35:06CraigUh, last, um, trellising on and, um, yeah, just kind of playing around. Got some fun, like key lime hash crosses here. Um, got some more chickens just coming through. We already did a little bit of harvesting on here, just kind of six sessions. Here's some smaller plants starting to do their fade. But yeah, we're just getting some nice rain right now. I mean, We'll take it. These plants will hold up nice.

2:35:41CraigIt's actually kind of fun to see which ones stand up tall through all this and kind of breed accordingly and all that kind of fun stuff.

2:35:51CraigYeah, some more of the key limes here. The key limes have been nice. They've been dumping some good resin for us.

2:36:02CraigWhat's up with what we're still kind of learning, like, you know, optimal harvesting for for fresh frozen. You know, I got we got some buddies who we we've done, you know, like cured hash with and stuff like that. And he'll see a super frosty plant, be like, oh, that one's going to dump.

2:36:20Collin PalmerBut then I feel like for fresh frozen.

2:36:22CraigDo you feel like if you harvest too early that you might get less yield? Because sometimes I know people harvest early just because the color. But we just kind of like to wait for them to get right.

2:36:35SpeakerIt's usually better than get right.

2:36:41CraigThis one's looking pretty nice and ripe here.

2:36:46Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineHey, Sam, do the thiols really build up at the end of the cycle as well as the terpenoids and everything from your experience? Is that another reason to let the plant ripen more?

2:37:00SpeakerI think you might be losing them a little bit during cultivation, but... I find at the moment of harvest seems to be when it has the strongest smell. But then during the, say, two week in the dark drying, it's, I mean, you can smell it for half a mile away if it's a large dry.

2:37:27Etienne FontanHey, Marcus, can I, I want to give a shout out real quick to Dean O'Brien and his Victory, um, Glassworks, they gave some donations to our veterans that we're able to use all week for our dabbing in D.C. And I just want to say thank him for helping us out. We appreciate it. Much love.

2:37:47SpeakerHell yeah, absolutely. I want to get Brian on the show again, maybe do another hashtag about maybe it even could coincide with Sharif and Nick and the volatile organic compounds, because not only do we want to talk about and understand how they're produced and how they're preserved, But then if we're so obsessed with preserving them, then too shall we be to the level that Brian is obsessed with how we consume them and how does the material we consume them off of them create buffers to further preserve those compounds right up until the point where we are experiencing them instead of changing them before they get into our olfactory and into our, you know, taste buds.

2:38:30SpeakerNotes taken. I wanted to say something real quick. Colin, did you get in trouble for something today?

2:38:41Collin PalmerThis is not the place. It's not the forum for it, my friend. This is absolutely not the forum for it.

2:38:49Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat's so funny.

2:38:52Collin PalmerNo, not at all. I don't know what you're talking about.

2:38:55SpeakerI just remembered that. We're fine.

2:38:57Collin PalmerWe're good. We're good. That's kind of funny. It's the principle, not the fact, right? That's the whole thing.

2:39:09SpeakerIf that's what you're being convinced to believe, sure.

2:39:12Etienne FontanHey, I also do want to give a shout out to Wade Laughter. Wade has actually become part of our veterans group because he was a Vietnam veteran. And he's been working with us and he's been going through his cancer and he's coming out on the other side. And he gives great thanks to Cannabis and Mushrooms. So it really got to him. He literally has metal in his neck, etc.

2:39:37Etienne FontanBut I just want to shout out a special love to Wade. I will see him this week during VAC meetings, but he's doing well. I know he sends his love and he's put on the fight of his fight and he's coming out through it. So thank you, Wade.

2:39:57SpeakerThank you for bringing Wade up, Etienne. I want to also reiterate that sentiment and send my love out to Wade. Wade, you're a special human being. We absolutely love and adore you here on Hash Church. You're part of our community, part of our family. And yeah, you know, be strong, do well. You've got our support anytime you need it. It's always there. And we're looking back, looking forward to the day that you're back enjoying a Hash Church with us.

2:40:23SpeakerSo Shout out to Wade. And if he's not watching now, ATN, make sure you show him this because... I'm sure we're all sending him our love.

2:40:35Etienne FontanHe's motivated and healing. He couldn't make it to our lobby day in this past week, but his motivation is to make it in May to us of 2023. So we look forward to having him strong and walking alongside us in the halls of Congress.

2:40:50SpeakerI would like to give some accounts to the vets if you can help me facilitate that.

2:40:58Etienne FontanOperation EVAC and Ryan Miller and them, they do that and they give away cannabis free to our veterans and make sure of all that. So keep that in mind. Thank you. That man right next to you knows how to reach out to me. Perfect. I love you.

2:41:14Collin PalmerOne thing that I think would be interesting to share is I've been running through, I'm going to read the list of things. I-95 times Cherry Pie times Tony Clifton, Watermelon Skittles times Z times Tropical Skittles. uh times peanut butter runs and then Gary Payton times banana runs and all of those are hitting above six percent on yield uh for washing all of them all all of those that I listed so that's the heat right sounds like the pro janitors are correct Yeah, they, I mean, I thought you, I know you're a Gary, you're a fan of Gary.

2:42:01Collin PalmerSo I think the banana, the banana runs adds, adds, adds a little, yeah, but banana runs is from Soul Fire for those that want to know. And, uh, we've, uh, We've got, yeah.

2:42:20SpeakerIs that stuff that you guys have put together or that you're running right now? Or what's that stuff?

2:42:25Collin PalmerYeah, stuff that we're running together. Well, stuff that we put together and that we're running now, except the Soul Fire stuff. That's just from Soul Fire, which is the banana runs, Gary. The rest is our own in-house cross.

2:42:38SpeakerIs that in mass?

2:42:39Collin PalmerYeah, those are in mass.

2:42:43SpeakerSo for mass, what are you selling most of? Are you selling to the public, like mass market?

2:42:50Collin PalmerNot currently. We're working on bringing projects right now. And then we're going to partner with a...

2:42:59Collin PalmerThere's an outfit here that we're working with to get those into licensed producers so we can put those into play. So those have a home for them. And then there will be banked with Canopedia and Medicinal Genomics and then backed with Pathoseq, which is their kind of pathogen kind of verification system.

2:43:19SpeakerWhat's the max that they'll pay in the mass market for Six Star? If they even get it.

2:43:27Collin PalmerYeah, that's that's the other question. But I think it's still like it's still like to 2016. And, you know, in California, 85 plus dollars a year. I mean, so. That's just where it's at right now because the pounds are still on the on the just the regulated side are still reaching three grand, you know, so it's just the paradigm is still there and it's strong. So it's still holding somewhat.

2:44:00Collin PalmerBut you'll find rosin wholesaling for like 22 to 30 a gram, you know? Yeah.

2:44:09SpeakerSo a quarter of the price of the full amount.

2:44:13Collin PalmerYeah, it's, it's, you know.

2:44:15SpeakerThey're not pressing the full mouth.

2:44:17Collin PalmerThey're pressing the mediocre.

2:44:19SpeakerIt's not all the same strains though. Like the six star is going to be four or five strains where like the $22 hash rosin is going to be like eight fucking strains. Eight of the same culprit, eight of the same 16 culprits that you see everywhere. In that third breath. Yeah.

2:44:37Collin PalmerYeah, and then the exactly, it's like full, it's like a, you know, mixed micron and stuff, you know, all that stuff. Yeah, so the East Coast has a lot of like, just in terms of like where we're at, just because there's not a lot of accessibility still, you know, we kind of forget because we're so spoiled that we just don't have it. And if that's the thing, that's the other thing.

2:44:59Collin PalmerPeople are excited to learn about hash right now on the East Coast or really rediscover it, I think, honestly. So.

2:45:07SpeakerIt's you know it's like it's I think it's like out there what I see is a lot of product still goes to flower market because it has value in flower market too so it's a little different where you know and and the reality is like west coast and the east coast smoke a lot of hash the difference is our q-tips are a little less dark on the west coast I don't know you know when we clean up our banger it's like because it's different material that's going in with more availability of super high-end stuff and that's because you have two different forces pulling there's the market pulling to flower which is always viable there and then just you know the the purchase the buying market it's just kind of different i mean new york's interesting to see it kind of turning on and just watching like pop-up stuff go from california to new york and things happening and other stuff but um how's that because you're close to that market too like what's what are you kind of seeing

2:46:03Collin PalmerYou know, it's kind of as I alluded before, I think it's like everyone needs to just slow down and let like the structure kind of get there, you know, and then we can be really truly excited. But I think it's just a mixture of everybody kind of, you know, wanting to get their chance and gearing up for it. It's going to have a lot of personality, you know, I think that's the cool part about it.

2:46:26Collin PalmerSo I'm really, honestly, I'm super excited. I think it's, It's going to be amazing and interesting and everything in between. And it's the center of many cultures. So I'm excited to see what that comes of it too, you know?

2:46:41SpeakerSo again, there's been a lot of trapping. That's the one thing I've seen is like Daniel Boone. Thank you so much for joining us.

2:47:09Collin PalmerThere's a lot of cool people that I think have been doing things that want opportunity and this is their chance. So, you know, it's going to be cool.

2:47:23SpeakerYeah, that's, I mean, PIF doesn't really make the greatest hash, does it?

2:47:28Collin PalmerOh, no, no, no, no. Look, all of it,

2:47:33Collin PalmerI think, again, it has to go through its own contemporary kind of rather than the change and all those because people have been holding things for decades in these areas that have just been going on the same thing. Thank you so much for joining us.

2:48:04Collin PalmerYou know, that crossed with some of this newer stuff that I'm now starting to explore, I think, is going to drive a lot of what New York's going to become. You know, it's going to be really interesting.

2:48:16SpeakerHey, guys, I got to jump off. It was awesome. Thank you, Marcus. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to also end it here at noon. I appreciate everyone coming in and doing their thing and sharing their vibe. And yeah, Let's try and do it again next week. Maybe a little bit more of maybe we'll get Sharif and we'll get Nick and we'll get deeper into the volatile organic compounds.

2:48:43SpeakerWe'll go where we go. We'll get Dr. Mark Sheldon in the house and we'll invite some of the other regulars. Thank you all for showing up. I appreciate every one of you. It's the road to legends.

2:48:58SpeakerYou know, we'll be doing, we'll do at least one big Legends of Hash, Hash Church before Legends as well. So we can kind of update you on everything that Addison and Kevin and the whole crew have been doing. So it's, it's coming along very nicely. I also need to mention before I leave, what is it North Shore Cannabis presents the Canna Art Event. This is September 24, from 12 to 4pm.

2:49:24SpeakerSupport local cannabis artists. Get your cannabis pressed and THC tested. I guess that is a trim test. It will be there with this little machine testing cannabis. I'll be there. The Future Cannabis Project and Rosebud Farms. I'll be there with Chay and we'll be talking about kind of some of our products at one of the local dispensaries in North Vancouver. So I had to mention that as well.

2:49:50SpeakerLegends of Hash will be happening December 2nd and 3rd of this year. And we'll be, yeah, come check us out on our Instagram, Legends of Hashish, and you can catch up with all things. Check out the website as well, yeah, legendsofhashish.com. And I think just thank you, everyone. Go forth and enjoy cannabis. And I do want to know what percentage of you eat pizza when you leave here?

2:50:17SpeakerBe honest with me now. Peace out, everybody.