Post-Barcelona: Jar Check Highlights and Scale vs Craft

0:02BubblemanAll right. That gave me a bit of a heart attack. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, my goodness. Here we go. Let's get a little recording done.

0:16BubblemanAll right. Welcome, everybody. This is Hash Church. season 11 episode 12 and i'm freshly back from europe via barcelona amsterdam and iceland back to vancouver to be sitting in my beautiful office here for the hash church of hash churches episode 12 season 11 super stoked for today um i guess i want to start with well let's just go into the chat and make sure everyone's Thank you so much for joining us.

1:03BubblemanToday, I want to announce a fresh new sponsor, one that I'm very happy to have here. I want to really welcome these guys. These guys have been global pioneers since 1993. Canna supplies cultivators from all over the world with products that would... Easily aligned with their growing systems. And there are a lot of growing systems. By continuously looking into plants, growing conditions, and crop specific needs, Canna is able to offer not only the right products, but also the technical support that every grower requires to optimize their cultivation.

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2:19BubblemanAnd LinkedIn. If you have technical growing questions, which is a pretty cool thing, you can always email the Canna Canada team at info at canna.ca. That's info at canna.ca. So big shout out to the boys and girls at Canna. Next up, we've got the Puffco's. Man, Puffco was so amazing in Barcelona recently. They really laced me up. They took care of so many people. They had an incredible booth.

2:50BubblemanSo many people were walking around with Puffco's and proxies and pivots. I honestly, it's almost all I hit exclusively aside from a couple of dabs from Lorenzo from the Terps Army. I was puffing on my Puffco Peak pretty much exclusively. So big thanks to Puffco for sponsoring Hash Church. These guys have revolutionized cannabis culture. They've normalized extracts with their incredible portable devices like the Puffco Peak Pro, the Pivot and the Proxy, the three I just mentioned.

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3:47BubblemanSo we're going to be discussing that. And we're going to be puffing on our Puffco. So shout out to Puffco. You know, last but certainly not least, I got to shout myself out, Bubble Bags. We stand out as the premier choice for water hash extraction. And I hope it's no surprise why we are the original innovators who set the standard for quality and performance crafted with durability in mind.

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4:35BubblemanReally, Bubble Bags is the fuel that has fueled the Bubble Man and all of the education that I've shared. Over the last 25 to 30 years. So give us a shout. Give us some support. You can check us out and get a discount for Hash Church 15. That's a 15% discount off of the bubble bags. And it's true, like Bingo Lombardi says, or sorry, like Tony Bologna says, there is no substitute for bubble bags.

5:02BubblemanDon't be fooled by the bubble bag, dude. You need the bubble bag, man. Good one, OG Brick. Appreciate that. So I think we've shouted out our sponsors and we want to help them. I do have a few more little things throughout the show I'm going to share in regards to Canada. They've sent us some videos of some of their facilities. So at one point in time, when it becomes the right time, we'll share some of those videos as well.

5:26BubblemanAnd in the meantime, let's let Colin in here, Mr. Gung Ho, our first always guest. Guy to jump on in the chat. Hope you're doing well, Mr. Vessel Life Science. And hope you had a good couple of weeks while I was away in Barcelona.

5:47BubblemanYou there, brother?

5:48Collin PalmerI'm here. I just had a little thing with my computer here. What's up? How you doing?

5:57BubblemanDude, I'm doing really well, man. I'm doing really well. Just freshly back from Spain. Got the pipe sitting in the universal heater here and getting ready to... Start off Hash Church properly with some dabs. Got a new panelist that I've invited in today. He's been chatting with me on Instagram. He's in here right now. The Inventing Room. And I believe, I don't want to misquote, but, oh, look at that.

6:24BubblemanHe even came in sideways like a Hash Church noob on his phone. That's me. Came in sideways. How's it going, bro? See if you can fix that shit up.

6:33SpeakerOkay, let me fix this.

6:59BubblemanSo yesterday he was like, dude, I want to come on Hash Church. And I was like, well, fuck, I want to have you on Hash Church, dude. How you doing?

7:05SpeakerVery good, man. Thank you for having me on, brother. It's a real pleasure. I appreciate it.

7:09BubblemanYeah, yeah, for sure. Well, why don't you tell our viewers who you are, what you are, what you're doing. Some might know you already from Instagram, but give us a little breakdown.

7:20SpeakerYeah, absolutely. So my name is Jacob. I'm the CEO and owner of the first state licensed solventless company in Arizona, The Inventing Room. I'm really, really excited about that. I always say Arizona is a little late to the party, but we learn in the time it takes us to get there. We have a really, really tight-knit community out there. Really, really got a lot of great people in a lot of great areas.

7:40SpeakerI'm very blessed to be able to work with a lot of great people out here. We're not yet single source, so I get to utilize a lot of different guardians and work with a lot of different farmers and teams like that. So that's always a blessing. And we've been going on about four and a half years now. So we've been going for a while. Our first week into the industry, it went wreck.

7:59SpeakerSo that was a really exciting surprise. So things kicked off very quickly. We started in the pandemic. I've been running labs in Arizona for about 10 years or so, unprofessionally washing for about five or six years on top of that. Hash has just always been a big passion of mine. I was a Thank you for joining us today.

8:45BubblemanYou know, I was in the Arizona market, not Bubble Man brand, but as a consultant, I kind of got a little piece of a company. They didn't really pull it off, you know, as often is the case. So I'm not in Arizona anymore, but I definitely see you guys doing good things. And who knows, maybe there'll be a collaboration one day with the Inventing Room and Bubble Man brand in Arizona.

9:09SpeakerAbsolutely. Yeah, we'd absolutely love that. You know, that's just like every state, you know, there's some guys who just can't quite get it figured out. That's no disrespect to them. Sometimes just money doesn't allow it. There's a lot of other limiting factors. For us, we just put the hash first. We put the community first. We're really in a blessed place where we don't have any limiting overhead.

9:27SpeakerWe don't have anybody telling us about stock prices. We're not limited by anything other than what we should be, which is just the quality of what we produce. We're always trying to raise that quality, always trying to raise the standard. We're not the only ones out here in Arizona doing great work. There's some incredible hash makers out here doing some great stuff. Collaboration admittedly is a little harder to do out here than in some states, most particularly because a lot of those hash makers kind of work for other people and other brands and they may not want to do that as much, but we love collaborating with who we can.

9:57SpeakerIf we see a buddy of ours get a new grow up and run it, we're going to try out his We're all about being flexible and working. I think that's what's gotten us this far on the market so far.

10:09BubblemanAwesome. Yeah, no, I actually worked with a group called Sonoran Roots. They definitely had no problems when it came to money. Unfortunately, the hash making group, there was just at least one person in there that just kind of decided he was going to be the hash making consultant and he just kind of Tanked the whole thing. Imagine having Bubble Man on your company as your consultant, but you don't think listening to him is a good idea.

10:36BubblemanSo he reaped what he sowed and now he no longer has a hash making company in Arizona. So that's too bad. I won't, of course, call him out by name, but I will say, dude, next time, just fucking listen, bro.

10:51SpeakerYeah, I've definitely been in similar situations where the culture and understanding of hash on a deeper and more spiritual level, it's not really acknowledged in an Arizona business statute, unfortunately. It really comes down to seniority. I've literally had consultants look at my boss at the time and be like, hey, this guy's literally telling you exactly what is correct, but in My boss flat out told us, both of us, I won't hear it unless it's coming from your mouth.

11:16SpeakerSo just a lot of ego, just a lot of displaced anger and things like that. That exists in every community, every industry all around the world. So we're just lucky to keep our morals high, put our best foot forward, try not to burn any bridges or shit on anyone. And those exact conversations is actually what led me to do The Inventing Room. I always say the hash maker in Arizona is so limited.

11:35SpeakerThey all have these big goals and ideas and the smart companies are the ones who really let those guys become the face and really let them popularize what they're doing. And that's what's the main goal. If you let people in, they get excited. But a lot of that is changing slowly. Like I said, there's some great people out here really doing that. We're certainly not the only ones.

11:54SpeakerBut it's far and few in between, unfortunately. So we're definitely against that corporate giant. But For the first time ever in Arizona market, I will give it that credit. I'm very proud to say being on this side, talking with the purchasing managers, trying to get product where it needs to go on the shelves. It's the first time I've ever heard consistently from multiple people that they're saying, you know, for the first time, these are corporate people, by the way, they're like, for the first time, we're really starting to look at this as if we We really need to start getting better stuff.

12:20SpeakerWe really can't just get a lot of cheap stuff. And I'm sitting here like, hey, well, finally, no, duh, you know, but that's really, like I said, it takes us a long time to kind of get right here in Arizona, but we're learning and people like myself and others are trying to trailblaze that path to get us caught up a little faster than the corporate people would allow us to.

12:39BubblemanWell, it's not just, you know, it's, you know, there's always been this division, especially since legalization between this sort of corporate, the roots and the suits, if you will, really, the roots and the suits. That being said, you know, Obviously, there's a place for corporations in this world because I'm sure you, myself, and Colin right now might not be wearing clothes. We might not be on these computers or our phones.

13:02BubblemanWe might not be able to drive our cars. We might not be able to go grocery shopping. So we do have a strange thing with cannabis where it's kind of like we can't allow any large-scale corporate entities. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We can. We just want to turn them on to better ways of doing things. Things are Thank you so much for joining us.

13:45BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

14:05BubblemanA small time, single source hash maker. And I love that we have those. And I think we need tens of thousands of those, if not more, hundreds of thousands of them worldwide. At the same time, you know, the majority of people will always get their things from larger companies. Just like I mentioned, all of our clothes, our hats, like even these hash companies that are claiming, you know, single source and this and that.

14:28BubblemanWe don't want to get too big. They order their swag from China from a giant corporate company and then they wear hats from China and shirts. And so it's just this, you know, of course we have a little bit of hypocrisy as we are humans and there's always hypocrisy in everything that we do. I also kind of like to be the voice and I always hear Skunk Man Sam, you know, it was Skunk Man Sam that really opened my mind to the fact that I was, because I was on the other side of it.

14:51BubblemanI was kind of like, well, dude, like you can't just grow hectares of weed. It's going to lose. And he was like, of course you can. Why can't you? Why can't you grow hectares of weed and allow it to be great quality? And I was just kind of like, uh, because I don't know how. And he's like, exactly. He's like, thank you for being honest because you don't know how.

15:11BubblemanAnd what we love to do in this world is we love to project our limitations onto others. And when you see someone projecting their limitations onto you, Thank you so much for joining us.

15:52BubblemanJust because those companies are limited in their ability to execute scale does not mean that scale is impossible to execute. And I think guys like yourself and Colin and myself and a lot of the guys that came up in this from the small getting into the larger, I mean, it's certainly not an easy game turning people on. I mean, my... My goodness, it is difficult. The whole sort of, you know, here we are selling a volatile product.

16:23BubblemanAnd the first thing that the CEOs and the CFOs and all of the sort of corporate people want us to do is they want to stabilize the product and the product by nature is volatile. And so you have this very, very difficult right off the bat. Like, how are we going to stabilize a volatile product? Well, from my perspective, We aren't, we will not be able to stabilize a volatile product.

16:49BubblemanWhat we will be able to do is we will be able to involve a cold supply chain that will appear to stabilize the product very much like how Thank you so much for joining us.

17:26BubblemanThe founder of 420 UK has passed away recently. His name was Jules. This guy disseminated knowledge throughout the UK. He kept many people informed and updated. He was a beautiful soul who works with many outstanding breeders, maintaining old strains such as UK cheese, literally millions of posts, tens of thousands of members. Jules was and is loved. These are the words of Persephone Lux that I am reading.

17:52BubblemanThese are not my words. I want to give her a shout out as her husband was good friends with Jules in the UK. And as the cannabis and hash community, of course, we mourn for Jules's family and all the wonderful people that he supported over the years. Anything you guys can do for their family, please do so. If you want to go support 420 UK, go check them out.

18:15BubblemanAnd yeah, I just wanted to definitely mention that Jules has passed away quite suddenly at a very young age of 58 years old. I'm 52 in eight days. I turned 52 in eight days. I guess the next hash church is the day before my birthday. Maybe we'll have a little birthday party for the bubble man next weekend. We'll see what happens. So Shout out to Jules for all the great work.

18:37BubblemanSo many great people over the years have brought this information and knowledge. And if you look at the information and knowledge, it used to be very small. We'd get it from High Times Magazine. If you look at the information, why can we scale the information and build these huge sites and get the information out to millions instead of hundreds? But we can't scale hash production and cannabis growing.

19:03BubblemanThat's a question to think about, isn't it? Oh, we can. We can scale cannabis and hash growing. So if you're out there in the world and you're attempting to grow better cannabis on a larger scale, don't let the limiters limit you. Don't let what they can't do limit you. Give it a shot. Go out there, make some mistakes. Fuck up a crop or two. It is farming after all.

19:26BubblemanAnd maybe make some mistakes that lead you to the pathway. It's really such a shame that we've lost Skunk Man Sam because all of that information was just sitting in that big old head of his. And... I'll always be a little bit overwhelmed at the thought of my dear friend no longer being here. I did have a wonderful celebration of life for Sam. We did with his wife and his granddaughter and one of his daughters.

19:52BubblemanHis other daughter was in South Africa, but she was live on the Zoom. I will post that up as a premiere if you guys want to watch that celebration. I believe I put it up on Tuesday at 420 PST. So anyone that wants to come and be in the chat, we'll all be sort of talking about it. It was really lovely. His granddaughter, Sienna, had a beautiful little speech about all the different things she learned from him.

20:17BubblemanAnd then, of course, Doug from the Hoodlum Jacket Company and THC, ex-partner of Adam Dunn. He came on and spoke eloquently. Robert Lee came on and spoke eloquently. Ryan Lee, Chimera spoke as well. Soma wrote some poems for David that were quite beautiful. And I myself said a few words as well in between breaking down much like the Italian woman at the funeral, the grandma who falls on the casket and she's all dressed in black.

20:49BubblemanThat was me. And I just couldn't hold back my emotion. He's a dear friend. I'll love him forever and I'll miss him forever. And I'll carry him with me on my shoulder because I sure spent enough time standing on his shoulders. So I'll carry him on my shoulders for certain. What are you guys puffing on? Should we have a little puffy puff?

21:12Collin PalmerYeah, brother. Let me get, I gotta get my jars. Be right back.

21:17BubblemanDude, this guy comes on Hash Church without his jars? Fucking... You are, we're all rookies. We do not know how to party. Right? Remember that, Colin?

21:27SpeakerLet me go get my jars too.

21:30BubblemanOh, another rookie. Amateur. No...

21:34Collin PalmerListen, I got all my rigs here. I got my mothership. I got my...

21:38BubblemanRight, without your jars, you don't know how to party. So, Jacob, there was a troll that we had, and I don't know if he was actually a troll or a genius, but he was sending me emails last week or the week before, and they were fucking brilliant. Like, they were so good. They were like, you guys, you don't even inject mushrooms into your bloodstream. And he was like...

22:00BubblemanNo, it was really quite something. At first, it seemed like he was a troll, but towards the end of it, I was like, this guy might be like a brilliant comedian. He sent me two or three emails, and it was all basically how we're all noobs, we're all amateurs on Hash Church, we're like, we don't know how to party. I mean, it was so fucking funny, dude, that I think I read all of his emails on last week's or the weeks before Hash Church, so...

22:26BubblemanYeah, pretty funny. Yeah, that guy, DGS, that guy. So anyway, I got a little, I think it's Black Cherry Punch. I don't even know. It's a little rosin from my homie, Dan Heaton. And it's just got a beautiful, wonderful, flavorful smell. And every time I go to puff this, my buddy... Dutch Grown just pops out of nowhere. He just fucking like pop. There he is. Look at that.

22:49BubblemanLook at that. I was just about to puff it. And here you are with your fucking red toque and your fucking Minnesota accent. How you doing, eh?

22:57SpeakerAll pretty good, don't you know?

22:59BubblemanWell, you know, it's funny when they make fun of the Minnesota accent, eh? It's like the Canadian accent.

23:04SpeakerThey don't like that, you know? They don't like that one bit.

23:07BubblemanThey don't like that. Do you know Dutch Rutherford Jacob? He did the regenerative conferences. Jacob is the inventing room in Arizona. Dutch just moved from the West to Minnesota, like a super random, like, wow. And he's kind of picking it up. He's doing it up. He's representing in Minnesota. He's going to fucking change Minnesota, let me tell you.

23:28SpeakerHell yeah, they need it, man, for sure. I got some buddies out in the Twin Cities, so they will appreciate it.

23:33BubblemanYeah, we'll hook them up with Dutch.

23:35SpeakerYeah, for sure. I'm about 40 minutes from the Twin Cities. Okay, cool. Right on, man. I love it. Give me a second. I'm going to go grab some jars real quick.

23:44Collin PalmerYeah, dude.

23:45SpeakerGood morning, Colin. How are you doing?

23:47Collin PalmerGood, bro. It's good to see your face. We were just texting back and forth.

23:53SpeakerYeah, so check this out. This picture popped up right as I was logging in. And this is... From my first Recro, when I bought the license, I had to buy it from some dude and I had parceled out my library of, you know, at the time, probably 60, 70 plants to four or five different people, hoping that one of them would come through and return my plants to me.

24:17SpeakerAnd so this was, this was, this is a picture of what that was. I had purchased it on this other dude's land, brought in all these plants and got them flowering and ran a quick cycle before I was able to transfer it to my farm. But This was kind of back in the day when you felt a little black, you're black marky and gangster. And I was like, you know, able to pull some shit off and it represents like a good old fashioned effort that came through to me, you know?

24:42Collin PalmerWe met your days, man.

24:43SpeakerYeah, pre-metric days, right? I mean, this was in metric, but you had to do that, get it out and then work with people to get it in. And oh, my gosh.

24:51Collin PalmerSo it's funny because, like, I can't even believe we use those terms now. It's like pre-metric or pre-track, you know, track and trace. I don't even know what to call it. It's like I don't even even like even now that we have to do it, it's like. There's a lot of holes in all of it.

25:08SpeakerThere is, dude. I was just listening to a show. This is probably totally off base, but I listened to a show and folks were talking about enforcement. And because they had gone through licensure and, in quotes, put the work in, that they should be entitled to have enforcement on the black market. And it was just like, what the fuck, dude? Like, what the fuck? You know what I mean?

25:32SpeakerAnd you're looking at someone that's like a dude like us, just like us, and they're like just so confused in their head. I'm like, you can't go there. You can't go there. I may misquote this, but they were saying that Norma was kind of leaning towards that. Thank you so much for joining us.

26:03BubblemanThose, the black market is what brought legal cannabis to the world. Without the black market, without the people fighting for cannabis and keeping it alive, and even, honestly, even the people who are the profiteers, who are simply in it for profiting, they still inadvertently made cannabis accessible, kept genetics alive. And so even the ones that maybe would, and honestly, like, I don't know, how like self-righteous are we?

26:33SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

27:02BubblemanThey're my heroes. They're my heroes. They kept the plant alive so that when Colton came along and needed it, it was available to him. And no corporation did that, and no large company or government did that. It was individual people who were doing that and keeping it all alive. And yes, for whatever reason, if your reason was the righteousness of helping people, if your reason... Here's the thing.

27:27BubblemanEven if your reason is straight up profiteering and all you're trying to do is make cannabis accessible to people and just become the richest dealer that you can become, you still inevitably do God's work. You're still inevitably supplying cannabis to the world. People are using it preventatively, which is medicinally.

27:47SpeakerIn Washington, this funny thing happened because I had a rec license there for almost 10 years. And I was also working in the hemp line, just kind of working all the lines. And what I had noticed was some of the cultivars that had gone out of touch or out of reach in the black market world were totally accessible. In the legal market world were these folks that maybe didn't even understand their value.

28:11SpeakerLike there's Gray Babe running around in Washington. You know, you can go buy grape ape weed and there's a number of people that have grape ape. And there's tons of people that would pay a lot of money to get a verified cut of grape ape. And it's, you know, like I even came across a pink lemonade cut right out of a rack. The guy didn't even know what he had.

28:28SpeakerHe's like, I think this one's pink lemonade. I'm like, well, I'll take it. I'll try it out. Grew it up. It was the fucking pink lemonade. You know, it was the real fucking deal. He didn't know what he had. And so like... I think that there's something to that concept Michael Pollan threw out there that, you know, who are we working for? You know, whether we like it or not, you know, even if we are profiteering, this plant will sort of make us bend our will to its will, you know.

28:53BubblemanDude, I love that you bombed out Michael Pollan, dude. Like, Michael Pollan, for those of you that don't know, The Botany of Desire, if you're not into reading, there's a documentary. I personally would read the book. The How to Change Your Mind, his psychedelic book, and one of my favorites, The Omnivore's Dilemma.

29:10SpeakerI think it was The Omnivore's Dilemma where he hit that.

29:13BubblemanYeah, that's my favorite one, dude. That's where you get introduced to Joel Salatin, the lunatic farmer, and just the... Such an incredible author, the most unbiased, like beautiful, like writing about diet and food without any bias whatsoever. It's the opposite of talking to a militant vegan. Like it was refreshing and I have nothing against veganism. I just don't like when it's this one particular issue. It's like we're all different.

29:45BubblemanJust like one particular cultivar. I'm going to write a book and tell everyone why it has to be the ghost train haze. If they smoke anything else, they're rookie amateur people who don't know how to party. Welcome, Etienne Fontaine. You were just going to say it, Jacob?

29:59Etienne FontanYeah, yeah.

30:03BubblemanI love it, man. Yeah. Oh, there you go. PK Brewer says Poland does narrate the documentary almost word for word of his book. Almost word for word. The book always has more. Remember that. The book always has more. How you doing, Etienne? It was amazing to see you in Barcelona, dude. I got off my motorcycle. Thankfully, I had taken off my helmet because I don't always when it's like a bit rainy.

30:28BubblemanAnd I was walking. I was at least 50 plus feet away, right about to go around the corner of some cars and stuff. And I hear this. Well, shit, I think it was Bubble Man. I think he screamed Bubble Man. And I was like, kind of looked around, and lo and behold, there is Etienne, fresh out of the van with his crew of activists, fucking Myrtle in the house, like all these amazing activists that literally just got back from Austria, if I am correct, speaking to like the United Nations.

31:02BubblemanIs that right?

31:03Etienne FontanYep, yep.

31:04BubblemanOK, OK, I didn't want to fuck that up.

31:07Etienne FontanWe're lobbying for world change because they're still executing people for cannabis. So me, Myrtle, Michael Crow, it's Amy Farid. Among others, the Cannabis Embassy was representing 26 individuals from 13 different countries showed up. And yeah, we basically went at world leaders talking to them specifically and educating them about cannabis. We had a 10 by 10 booth educating them. We had hemp products. We had hemp bricks. We had hemp plastics.

31:39Etienne FontanAnd we were just throwing it into their hands at every given fucking moment to say, hey, this is cannabis. This is hemp. And, you know, it's one thing to see, you know, and read about it. It's another thing to have it in your hand. And that tool was exponentially awesome. Quite a few countries were very interested in the hemp bricks, of course, which are made from lime, probiotics, hemp herds, and water.

32:06Etienne FontanAnd there's bridges 1,500 years old made from this material. That still exists. So seeing countries like Namibia and Ethiopia and others come up and engage us that are looking for new building materials. And of course, you make these hemp bricks, they also are fireproof, which is something we need in California. Considering I live in California and we just dealt with a whole bunch of forest fires and fires down in Southern California that wiped out entire towns, villages, etc.

32:36Etienne FontanSo... You know, looking to the past to look to the future, but educating world leaders. Unfortunately, my country got its head so far up its ass. It led to further problems, but didn't stop us. But it was also nice to kind of take a breaker, go to Spanibus, hang out with you and others. Got to meet Brian Box Brown, who does Legalization Nation, which is a... Yeah, Cartoon, et cetera, at La Crema.

33:10Etienne FontanAnd yeah, had a great time. It was great seeing you, Bubble Man. We didn't spend as much time together as we could have, but it's the craziness of Spannabis and the last Spannabis, which was, of course, its own... Morning.

33:23BubblemanThe last cannabis in Barcelona.

33:24Etienne FontanIn Barcelona. But, you know, it's a big deal.

33:27BubblemanIt's a big deal.

33:28Etienne FontanIt's a big deal. You know, considering that, you know, I first went there in 2010 with Berkeley Patients Group and actually set up and talked to people and ran into Mila and to see the Spanish scene and how it has grown. You know, over the past 15 years has been, you know, exponentially awesome and a credit to, you know, the EU people moving to Spain and making Spain happen.

33:52Etienne FontanNow, I just wish the country of Spain would get itself together and legitimize the rest of the realities that's happening. But, you know, that's for the Spanish people to do. As you stated, we're working at the world level because even last year while we were meeting, Three people were executed just for discussing a drug deal. They didn't even touch the cannabis. Okay. So this is what we're.

34:14Etienne FontanWhere was this?

34:15BubblemanSingapore. Okay. So this was the question I wanted to get into. I'm going to quickly welcome Samantha Sensi, who just popped into the room because I don't want to be rude. It's always nice to acknowledge new folks, so we will talk to you very quickly, but I want to quickly ask Etienne, because I think this is fairly important, and I'm pretty sure I probably know, but big fight, obviously, fighting the execution of cannabis prisoners, that is so fucking mental to say that while I sit in Canada with a license to keep 10 pounds of anything I want, including hash.

34:51BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

35:07BubblemanThank you for watching.

35:29BubblemanImprison you and maybe execute you. You can fix me, fix that if it's wrong, Etienne. But please, the top countries that are executing people for cannabis right now.

35:41BubblemanOh, you're muted, Etienne.

35:47BubblemanOh, he's still muted.

35:49Etienne FontanSorry, of course, Singapore, China. Hold on one second. We know for sure specifically Shanghai because of the situation that, pardon me, Singapore that happened last year. And again, it was three people who were executed specifically. Of course, China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Malaysia. Those are the specific bigwigs that are executing people. Yeah, possession of more than 500 grams in Singapore, executionable. China will execute foreign nationals for drug trafficking offenses encompassing cannabis.

36:37Etienne FontanIran, despite recent reforms reducing executions for certain drug offenses, trafficking significant amounts of cannabis can still lead to capital punishment. And Malaysia, where there have been discussions about abolishing the death penalty, it remains a legal punishment for cannabis trafficking. Other countries, the UAE, Indonesia, Kuwait, and Egypt, So these are serious countries you need to realize if you travel through and abroad. And as Marcus said, you know, they can pull your blood.

37:10Etienne FontanAnd if there's THC in your blood, you know, worst case scenario is on the list. So my friends and I at the Cannabis Embassy, and I'm very thankful to be working with such very competent activists from around the world. That's what we're working to and towards by 2030 is that goal. Since we got medical cannabis legal in December of 2020, it's still a lot of work, people.

37:33Etienne FontanSo showing up, being there. The United Nations would not let us have hemp plants, which are legal in Austria. They would not let us have them to display inside our cannabis booth because they felt uncomfortable. The United Nations.

37:52BubblemanShould have given him a big old dab of some sativa rosin. That would have made him feel uncomfortable.

37:56Etienne FontanI bet, you know, we processed it outside. We had the plants.

38:01SpeakerWe could not go on the stairs and we pass out literature and Farid.

38:07Etienne FontanAnd I and our friend from Brazil, Paulo Tyson, we passed out literature, educated people, they came over, took pictures with the plants, and then the plants were planted somewhere around Vienna, because that's legal to do as long as they're not flowered. So we're just doing what we can with our voices to step outside of our Thank you for joining us.

38:58Etienne FontanYeah, this is the reality that, you know, we all enjoy sitting around and smoking, but this is the reality. People are still being killed around the world for what you're doing right now.

39:08BubblemanJesus Christ. It honestly makes me feel, A, terrible about my... Privilege and entitlement because I've just been fighting for cannabis for so long, but fighting for the people, you know, I was always impressed with Hillary because I thought she chose the most vulnerable segment of society to serve, which was of course the terminally ill, the homeless, the mentally ill. And the drug addicted, usually all four in one person.

39:38BubblemanAnd I thought that's got to be the most vulnerable. But then you think, hmm, maybe not. Maybe the people who are facing the death penalty are actually the most vulnerable people. That is so insane, Etienne, that I don't know why I haven't heard it the way I heard it today. But yeah, anything we can do, let us know because I'd like to get the bubble ambassadors out there, the hash church congregation, if you will, to help out with this.

40:11BubblemanAnd who would you rather help in the world right now? Like people are facing the death penalty for talking about a weed deal in Malaysia or Singapore, sorry.

40:26Etienne FontanIt's mind-numbingly madness when you think about it. And considering we sit here with our great privilege that we've all fought for within our countries to have our legal rights. You have a legal business. I have a legal business. You know what I'm saying? So we have pushed those boundaries. What I do by 9 a.m. I could be executed for depending on what country I'm in. That to me is absolute insanity peppers on a level that I could not comprehend before.

40:51Etienne FontanAnd then when I realized it and then I had a chance to lend my voice to it to change it, it's kind of become my calling in the sense that I felt the calling here to change in America. I did. I'm very proud of what I've done. But I can't sit and rest on those laurels knowing that people are being executed for what I do every fucking day.

41:12Etienne FontanIt just doesn't sit right in my soul. So I'll do what I can until I'm dead.

41:17BubblemanWell, I appreciate that. And I hope that you'll be able to let us know how we can get the Hash Church congregation and panelists involved in helping do something every week. We just have to figure it out. I mean, this is mental. By the way, Singapore is in Malaysia.

41:34Etienne FontanWe will meet further as the Cannabis Embassy and we will engage and we will bring forward to Hash Church with a suggested idea as well as thank you for the offer to do a Hash Church specifically on the Cannabis Embassy so we can make you all aware of the work that we are doing at the international level. So thank you for your time. Thank you for your consideration.

41:54BubblemanThank you, Etienne. That was heavy. We're definitely going to do that hash church. Samantha Sensi, welcome. Please let everyone know a little bit about yourself here, your first time on hash church. And thank you for balancing a little bit of this male energy.

42:09SpeakerI've heard a lot about it. I actually have to run to go water real quick, but I have a small little, not micro, but small craft grow in Massachusetts, the Fresh Connection. I'm the co-founder and Co-owner of the company. It's myself, my brother, and then we have a third partner, Zach, who has like 35, 40 years experience growing and making hash. And I learned from his mom, she's like an Oregon country fair hippie.

42:43SpeakerAnd so he learned from her and then from a bunch of Hell's Angels. So he had a bunch of influences. And then I've been working with him for about a decade and basically was looking for someone in Oregon where I lived for the past 15 years who could make the jump to Massachusetts because there's just like so much stuff, you know. But it's like I've been growing for...

43:11Speakerabout a decade straight but i grew my first plant like 20 years ago and um yeah 2006 so a while and um it's been quite the journey so thanks for having me on i've heard a lot about hash church and just excited to meet you guys shout out colin and i don't think that uh Jen's on here right now, but she told me to come on.

43:38BubblemanYeah, Jen Doe. She said she was going to come on today as well. So welcome. I love the fact that you have to leave right away for a bit to go water your plants. That's gangster.

43:46SpeakerIt goes quick. It's all automated, but somebody's got to go down there and just make sure that stuff isn't plugged. You know how it is. If one plant doesn't get watered, you get less yield or the plant could die or whatever. So yeah, just got to make sure they're all balanced down there.

44:03BubblemanYou have to mention the vibration of the plant. It can't feel good to the other plants to just be all healthy and be like, oh shit, look at Bob. He's not doing so good. Oh my God, Bob's dying.

44:15SpeakerYeah, exactly.

44:18BubblemanJust right next to you. It's like, oh my God, Bob's touching me while he's dying. Get off me, Bob. Don't pass your, you know, especially once a plant gets sick in a grow room, like it's one thing to get a less of a yield, but how about now the frequency of that plant is as such that bugs see it more readily, powdery mildews, all sorts of these, these intelligence that we often attribute to a fungi, but not to bacteria and all the other things that can occur.

44:45BubblemanThese are intelligences. Thank you so much for joining us.

45:08BubblemanEight different tries of the healthiest wildebeest. I have to make sure I get something the first two or three tries. And that is literally the program of nature. And that is the program of insects with plants. I've seen it time and time again. You let one plant, they become vectors, right? If one little plant happens, the plant's not getting water. Now it's a vector.

45:29Collin PalmerYeah, there's plenty of that. But I want to shout out to you, Samantha, you and your brother. We met when your space was just a raw space. I mean, I saw that thing from It's darkest moments to its brightest light. And it's really cool to see, you know, you guys do what you've done. And it's cool. It's great. You know, it's like what I think craft cannabis should be.

45:55Collin PalmerAnd quite frankly, what I was doing in the state was not at scale, like we talked about, Marcus, not what I was wanting to focus on. And I think, you know, what we're starting to see throughout the industry is that many, you know, participation at that particular scale that you guys are at, the more of those that exist, the better and the fresher the product that gets to market, you know, and that's something that I think really resonates as I reset and come back to what I'm doing in New York.

46:24Collin PalmerYou know, it's great to have square footage, but it's also great to be really focused. And, you know, Samantha's really done it well. Kudos to you. Thank you.

46:34SpeakerI gotta head out. I'll be right back.

46:37BubblemanWe'll see you soon. I want to welcome Dr. Mark. I know he's making a flight today and only has a short time. So let's talk chemistry, motherfucker.

46:48Dr Mark ScialdoneAny chemistry questions?

46:50BubblemanThere's always chemistry questions. What's happening in my brain when I'm eating LSD? Like seriously. And Trey is like smashing out the craziest riff off of like I don't know, whatever your favorite Trey song is. What's happening? I'm joking. How you doing, Mark?

47:06Dr Mark ScialdoneDoing well. Doing well. Yeah, getting ready to go to California for the week. Nice. Going over to do some consulting? Actually, I'm speaking at the American Chemical Society's national meeting in San Diego on Tuesday. Cool. Tell us about that. Well, I'm doing research on making some new cannabinoids. So, you know, we talked about hydrogenation before on Hash Church. So, you know, we were the people who first made HHCA, which is hexahydrocannabinolic acid, which is what you get when you hydrogenate THCA.

47:46Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd so when you do that, you make two isomers. You make an R isomer and you make an S isomer. So, You know, my research is more on the medical side, less on the, you know, consumption side. So it's just trying to find. So what Mishulam showed, so HHC, if we back up to HHC, so HHC was the first synthetic cannabinoid, right? And that was made by Roger Adams.

48:14Dr Mark ScialdoneHe reported it back in 1940. So right around the time of World War II, these guys were making, while they isolated CBD from Minnesota wild hemp in the late 30s. And then from that, they started doing chemistry on the phytocannabinoids. And one of the chemistries that he did was he showed he could take CBD, which he isolated from hemp and converted it over to THC. So

48:44Dr Mark ScialdoneHe then hydrogenated that material. So he was the first one to make HHC, which is hydrogenated THC. And when you do that, you make an R and an S isomer. Because the hydrogenation can happen from either side of the molecule. What happens from the top, it makes the R isomer. What happens from the bottom, it makes the S or vice versa, something like that. So what Mishulam showed is he separated the two and in 1971 reported a paper that showed that the RHHC9R isomer was more active than the 9S isomer.

49:20Dr Mark ScialdoneSo, you know, it's kind of known that that's kind of like a better configuration for the molecule to fit into the CB1 receptor So when you do the molecular modeling, you can show that the R isomer kind of just makes a better lock and key fit. Well, what we've been finding with HHCA, so when you hydrogenate THCA, you make HHCA, we're finding that the S isomer is more active.

49:47Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd it's very intriguing because the... Thank you for joining us today.

50:08Dr Mark ScialdoneThe cannabinoids, we hydrofluorinated HHCA that makes nine fluoro HHCA or we hydrofluorinated THCA rather. We hydrofluorinated THC, it makes nine fluoro THC, which are new molecules that have never been made before. So we're testing those alongside the hydrogenated compounds and seeing what the difference is of adding hydrogen across those double bonds versus hydrogen fluoride. Thank you for watching.

50:48Dr Mark ScialdoneWe know how to trust me.

50:49BubblemanI won't. So is this like different or the same as some of these synthetic cannabinoids that are like sold as spice and just like destroy people? You see these insane videos of people hitting it in prison and just like losing their fucking minds.

51:03Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah, those synthetic cannabinoids do not resemble the phyto cannabinoids right at all. So phyto cannabinoids are from the cannabis plant. Our our approach is to make derivatives of the phyto cannabinoids and look to see if we could modulate their Thank you for joining us.

51:40Dr Mark ScialdoneYou know, make them last longer, make them more effective. See if you can come up with structural analogs that are actually more effective than the phytocannabinoids themselves.

51:49BubblemanDo you yourself follow, say, the school of Sasha Shulgin with the bioassay of the substances that you're... Like, is someone taking these and then being like, oh my God, it's wild. Or is it just really sort of theoretical paper, all the bonds, the lock and key, this is what this... Or is someone like... You know, there must be someone on some fish lot somewhere who's willing to eat this stuff, no?

52:12Dr Mark ScialdoneWell, HHCA, I definitely tried it. You know, I was just interested, you know, in what the hydrogenation did to THCA. And so when I first made some, we just took some high THC extract, high THCA extract, you know, BHO basically, and hydrogenated it. So yeah, I was, me and Barone were all over that shit. We were trying to, you know, You know, what does this do to the high?

52:38Dr Mark ScialdoneWell, let's try it and find out. So we put it on the nail and definitely dabbed it. And it certainly is psychoactive. There's no question about it. You dabbed it with Baroni? Oh, yeah.

52:48BubblemanOh, yeah. That's awesome, dude.

52:50Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah. Yeah. Well, and the crazy thing was I spoke at, you know, Kevin McKernan's CanMed thing back there in 2017 at Harvard Medical School. So here I am in front of, you know, this illustrious You know, audience of doctors and yeah, you know, brought up Shogun by name and said, you know, well, you know, we did this chemical transformation. Now, what did it do to the molecule?

53:16Dr Mark ScialdoneSo I'm like, okay, let me try it. Yeah, I think I freaked out half the audience that was in there. I think it was the first time they heard the word dab, you know, it's back in the 20s.

53:25BubblemanBut you gained the respect of the other half of the audience. That's the half you should focus on, Dr. Mark.

53:32Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah, no, some people thought I was like, kind of like Frankenstein. It's like, oh my God, this guy's like Frankensteining new molecules and trying them. It's like, did you break out of the torch? Yeah, I mean, definitely, you know, I read Shogun's books. I read one of those books twice. It was so much fun. You know, so yeah, Sasha was just like one of those people who, you know, said, look, there's structure activity relationships that we could understand, like what chemical transformations and how we're manipulating these molecules and what kind of biological effect they have on us.

54:09Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd I guess his manipulations of those molecules, the tryptamines were so subtle that our own experiences can basically discern, oh, yeah, that's the four bromo or that's the four chloro or, you know, having some kind of, you know, molecular recognition. On these molecules, just based on the way they make us feel. But yeah, I mean, now I work at a college and I'm educating students and we're learning how to do synthesis and we're testing these things in microtiter plates against bacteria and against tumor cell lines.

54:47Dr Mark ScialdoneNo, we're not really into this for the recreational aspect. It's more about the medical pursuit now.

54:54BubblemanMakes sense. But still, the bioassay does tell you the pathways. It does let you know how it engages with the human.

55:02Dr Mark ScialdoneIf we're hitting CB1, that's for sure, right? So when you're hitting CB1, I mean, that high that we all feel is basically agonizing your Thank you so much for joining us.

55:38Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd so what that means is that it withdraws electron density from anything it's bonded to. It's so electronegative. And so so what that does to the shape of the molecule is it really it contorts the molecule in a weird what's called stereo electronic way. So it kind of contorts the shape of the molecule. Thank you for joining us.

56:14Dr Mark ScialdoneA lot of FDA approved drugs with fluorine in them because it does, for such a small atom, it exerts a really strong impact on the molecules themselves. So us chemists, we love fluorinated molecules.

56:29BubblemanColin has his hand up. He wants to mention something, but before he does, clearly, Dr. Mark, you are not a rookie, lightweight, amateur partier. I'm just going to say that.

56:43Collin PalmerGo ahead, Colin. So, so Dr. Mark, uh, really fascinating and informative, amazing stuff. Um, so from a toxicology point of view, have you guys run any studies at all with that, with exactly what you just said in mind?

56:57Dr Mark ScialdoneUm, you know, cause it seems like we, we, we, we're, we're, we're just testing these things for the, for, we've just made them like just earlier in the year and now we're, we're testing them. Because they're new compounds, we filed for patents just because we can. Whenever you invent a new molecule or you have a new molecule, you could patent that composition of matter. And we did so with HHCA.

57:23Dr Mark ScialdoneSo we filed for patents. But in order to show utility, you have to show some kind of biological effect. So we've been looking at, I have a colleague who's in my department upstairs. On the third floor of Cheray Science Hall at St. Michael's College where I work. And she's a cellular biologist who studies T cells. And so she raises these leukemic T cells that are basically cancer cells.

57:51Dr Mark ScialdoneSo we look to see how well we can kill those cells. And what we do see is we see like the 9S HHCA is more active than the 9R at killing those cancer cells. And we don't know why. We're just... Scratching the surface.

58:08BubblemanIt's because the 9S is full melt and the 9R is mids.

58:16Collin PalmerSo the control is your other details and you're giving it just that one particular, you know,

58:24Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah, well, we have a positive and we have a negative control. Our negative control is we just use the DMSO that we dissolve the cannabinoids in to look to see if the solvent itself has any effect. And in negative control, we use something called a pedicide, which is a known... Thank you for joining us today.

59:06Dr Mark ScialdoneThank you so much for joining us.

59:18Dr Mark ScialdoneThey're looking at how many cells are alive or dead in this assay. And they can determine that by something called flow cytometry. So flow cytometry is just a commonly used technique in microbiological labs that look at cell death. So we're able to basically look at what concentration is effective at killing these cells and to see At what different changes in the molecular structure do we influence what the effect of concentration is at killing those cells?

59:55Dr Mark ScialdoneThat's interesting.

59:56Collin PalmerYeah, it makes complete sense. It's really control. It's for the audience that essentially what Mark is saying is that he is a very detailed control and he's Doing an experiment that has many variations and it's well thought out. So the other question I have, the other thought is how are you administrating that? Is it a topical or is it, are you, you know, using vaporizers and blowing into a chamber and these things are hitting it and how does that work?

1:00:25Dr Mark ScialdoneNo, so these are just cells in a microtiter plate. So it's just administered in the solution in the broth itself that these cells live in. So these cells live in something called a broth. I think this is called... LB Broth, which stands for something. I forget what it stands for. I'm not the biologist, right? But it's basically an agarose. Agarose is a sugar. It's just basically a median for cells to grow on.

1:00:56Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd cells will thrive in that median unless they come up against something that's going to kill them. So we're looking to see at what concentration are we effectively killing the cells in the microtiter plate.

1:01:10Collin PalmerThat's really cool. And these are not naturally diverged, just so the audience understands. These are things that you've created and synthesized. That's exactly what... That's right.

1:01:22Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah. So our group focuses on doing the chemistry. So we do the chemical modification of the compounds. And then we use NMR and mass spec and HPLC to characterize the compounds. And then in my colleague's lab, she does the cellular... All right. Assays to look to see, do we kill these cells or not?

1:01:45Collin PalmerSo are the Assamers, in your opinion, from going down this rabbit hole with this, exploring this space and idea, ideology, is there more therapeutic properties to come from this, you know, this kind of thought process and this process that you're going through? Is it because we focus a lot about on, you know, The things we understand from the plant, right? And now what you're doing is kind of, in my opinion, going off and into a world in which is a little bit more experimental, if you will.

1:02:20Dr Mark ScialdoneWell, if you just look at subtle changes in molecular structure, like just going from THC to THCV, you turn a partial agonist into an inverse antagonist. So, I mean, the way these things work is just the subtlety of the structure itself can affect How they, how they work. In our case, what we're, we're looking to not hit CB1, right? Because a lot of cannabinoid medicines would be more beneficial if they hit some of the other targets.

1:02:52Dr Mark ScialdoneSo we're interested in something called PPAR gamma. Thank you for joining us.

1:03:12Dr Mark ScialdoneBut we're kind of looking at cancer because we're looking at cells that are abnormal. And if you kill these cells, the potential is that you could basically use that kind of therapy to basically reduce tumors and treat cancer.

1:03:31Collin PalmerAnd yeah, so it's super exciting. And this is repeatable, Dr. Mark? This is something that you're... You're working towards to make repeatable results.

1:03:42Dr Mark ScialdoneSo when Lindsay does these cellular bioassays, she does them in triplicates, right? So if you look at our data, I could show our data. I'll have some data shortly to show. You'll see error bars that's associated with the columns, right? And those error bars represent how tight the statistics in a triplicate run are. So yeah, we run triplicates. If we see something unusual or an anomaly, we'll go back and test that.

1:04:12Dr Mark ScialdoneThanks for sharing that. Thanks for asking. Yeah.

1:04:28BubblemanDude, have a good talk. And definitely, you know, when you come back next week, we'll have a discussion about it, actually. I'm sure it'll be very good.

1:04:37Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah, well, I mean, this is, you know, the American Chemical Society has a cannabis chemistry subdivision that we started, I think, 10 years ago now. Yeah. Yeah, it was in 2015 that we first met in Denver. So, yeah. Kyle Boyer has just been elected chair. And I think we might actually become a full fledged division ourselves. Right now we're a subdivision within a division because, you know, I think there was still some notion of, oh, why do we need an entire division of the American Chemical Society dedicated to cannabis?

1:05:15Dr Mark ScialdoneBut there's like an entire section of the American Chemical Society that's Devoted to rubber. And that's because there's this thing called the tire industry, right? So tire industry throws a lot of money at it. Next thing you know, they have their own division. There's cellulose and paper because there's huge cellulose and paper companies, right? Throw a lot of money at it. Next thing you know, you have a division.

1:05:38Dr Mark ScialdoneSo cannabis chemistry is super important these days, not only from the testing point of view, but just from the education. We're educating the future cannabis scientists of the future. Those people need a good grounding of chemistry and biology. They need to understand how to fix the HPLC when it doesn't work. So we're teaching really valuable, employable skills to people. And I think it's important to have The attention of the American Chemical Society because, you know, this is, you know, the largest chemical society in the world.

1:06:17Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd I think people, in spite of what's going on in the world today, still look to the US for leadership in this area. So the only other thing I'll say, Marcus, I think that I just wanted to mention this is that, you know, it becomes one of those things where it's like Hash Church has been such a great, Thank you for joining us.

1:06:52Dr Mark ScialdoneThis is one of the reasons why having someone like me who's in that division at the ACS to point people to Hash Church is kind of interesting, right? Because I'm talking to professors and scientists and pharmaceutical guys. I'm like, well, look, I'm going to point you to a show called Hash Church. On YouTube. And you're going to find out all about what you're asking about. So I think what you've provided here has just been a wonderful resource.

1:07:22Dr Mark ScialdoneAnd I thank you for the countless hours that you've put into making this whole thing happen.

1:07:30BubblemanYeah, I mean, right back at you, dude, and right back at every panelist that spent the time and all the folks that watch, you know, three, four hundred people live every show and upwards of five thousand plus every week. It's awesome. It's a hardcore group. You know, I look forward to the day where we Break our numbers and really go viral and get, you know, I think the main thing for Hash Church, and maybe there's someone out there that can help me with this.

1:07:57BubblemanI need a clipper. I need a young person that can come in and clip little things that Dr. Mark and Colin and Samantha and Etienne, anyone that comes in and drops... They do, but you still require like a 20 year old clipper to run it all, dude. Yeah, trust me. Like I'm already doing too much. And I just know that if I could access an amazing clipper, and I've been talking to James at Puffco actually, who have been super supportive behind the scenes in regards to just helping in the structure of different aspects of, you know, podcasts or social media or whatever.

1:08:37BubblemanYou know, it is that you're doing in regards to this cannabis industry that we're in. And they have been extremely helpful. And he's the one that really has been kind of pointing this out. Like, dude, you need someone to clip scenes. There's all these. There are what Mark just said. If you went back and I should give a shout out to Ed, as well as there's another intern that's helping me right now.

1:08:56BubblemanThey're going through and they're removing. All of the words that Skunk Man Sam ever said, not removing, but like pulling out so we have it individually. All the questions that we asked him, you know, it's not just Skunk Man Sam, it's obviously the dialogue that he is involved with. We're not just going to clip only out what he says, but basically there's, you know, eight minutes here and three minutes here.

1:09:17BubblemanAnd there's, you know, the first one he said was Sam going, howdy, howdy. So this is an incredible amount of knowledge. And when you think of Sam, obviously he was at the top and he's the guy we all looked up to, but All of you have dropped incredible gems that are now almost just lost in this mass of information and data that sits on my YouTube channel.

1:09:40BubblemanAnd I really want to start pulling it off, sort of starting with Sam. But if I could find a clipper to help out, that would be a really, really cool thing because I think there are a lot of gems that could be shared with people. And if they were out in these like one or two minute clips, They would be very, very, very effective. Of that, I have zero doubts.

1:10:03BubblemanSo thanks for inspiring that thought, Dr. Mark, with your thoughts.

1:10:07Dr Mark ScialdoneYeah, I think it would make a great senior thesis. You know, like if someone were to go from episode one and watch every single episode and take notes on every single episode and then compile that into just a single document, I think it would make an incredible thesis. It's certainly an incredible journey for someone to take because there's episodes that we reference other episodes, right? So there's kind of like the interconnectivity, like when you refer to previous episodes that if somebody has like a master list of all the notes, like Marcus, there was a guy who was taking notes

1:10:55Dr Mark ScialdoneI remember him posting it on Instagram.

1:11:22BubblemanI think you're right in regards to someone going through that would make an incredible thesis. That's also like the mighty oak tree. I think nowadays for efficiency, the blades of grass would rule the show. Getting 100 people or 50 people to each watch five or six episodes and do notes. You would find, and then creating the SOPs for the notes, making sure that everyone's taking the notes in the same sort of mindset that, because otherwise I think you'd see such, you know, if you got three different people to do the first episode, you probably would be like, this is the person we need to do to do the notes.

1:11:58BubblemanLike this is exceptional, high quality, high caliber work, but something to think about nonetheless.

1:12:04SpeakerI was just thinking like, as you guys were spinning, like if you could get an AI to compile it, And then you could talk to it and say to the AI, how does, you know, you could even add in a few other shows. How does Hash Church view growing regeneratively? And it's going to have a handful of answers. It'll be like, well, Dragonfly Earth Medicine approaches it this way.

1:12:28SpeakerBest of Life Science, you know what I mean? Just the depth of where you could, you could go with this in your head and learning, you

1:12:35Collin PalmerI think once we get to select Dutch, like that, that could make sense. Like once someone has like gotten some extracted most of it out, like in selected it, you know, and trying to, you know, taking Marcus direction, you know, I know there's like hundreds, thousands of messages I've gotten over the years of like little blurbs that I didn't, you know, I had to go back to the episode and like, be like, oh yes, I mentioned this particular pump or this method or whatever it might've been at the time.

1:13:05Collin PalmerBut that would be really helpful because you could just point people towards that, that thing, like you just said, Dr. Mark, and they'd be able to go right to that information. And then furthermore, what Mark has said, you know, having these things in written form for a lot of these younger guys that are coming up would be invaluable. You know, I think that would be really cool to have because It's all about the next generation.

1:13:27Collin PalmerIt's all about indoctrining them in the right ways so they can help us kind of drive this the way it needs to be. Our industry is in shambles, and it's for a reason.

1:14:01BubblemanSocks and scarf and toque and shades or something. Kenna are the the the swag masters. They got the good the good good swag. So in about 47 minutes, we'll do a giveaway with this. I'm using Nightbot. So the giveaway will be done through Nightbot and I'll probably share my screen and that way you can see that it's all completely integrated. You know, I'm not choosing like my buddy to give something to, although you're all my buddies watching Hash Church right now.

1:14:29BubblemanAppreciate each and every one of you. So don't go away if you're here now or if you do go away, come back by 11. The way it works is I'll announce it and then you'll have to chat. You have to put like some type of words. If you're watching and you're in the chat and you're not chatting, you won't be entered into the giveaway. So make sure that you just chat, whatever.

1:14:54BubblemanYou can just chat full melt if you want or bubble hash or say something else. But it's happening. And shout out to Thomas from Grandmaster LED for teaching me how to use the Nightbot for giveaways. And shout out to Etienne for showing us hash while I'm talking about this whole thing. Appreciate you, brother.

1:15:11Etienne FontanMight be time for a bowl. What you were talking about is little coolers. They now are selling little coolers for your hash.

1:15:19BubblemanWhat? How does it cool? You just freeze it?

1:15:21Collin PalmerFreeze it, brother. And you use a joint pack out. And then that goes. That's hilarious. Yeah.

1:15:27Etienne FontanNext step is appearing. So there you go.

1:15:30BubblemanYou know what? Imagine any other industry having to create their own cold supply chain that is not actually a supply chain. You have to create... Power to them. Power to them. But I'm telling you, we need a coal supply chain in cannabis. Like, this is outrageous. The fact that spinach has it and we don't, I don't know who is representing the spinach industry, but they're doing a better job than we are.

1:15:55BubblemanI'm going to get in touch with that person and I'm going to figure it out. People are like, it's too expensive to keep it cold. How the fuck are they doing it with spinach then? They're not getting $3,000 a pound last time I checked.

1:16:06Collin PalmerStrawberries too, man. I studied the strawberries and they took California in three regions. And it's really, really, really intelligent how that industry came from like nothing in the 70s and the 80s just flourished because they figured out cold chain. You know, and it's, there's a couple only, you know, there's a couple families in Cali that are now in cannabis that are trying to recreate that. It's, you know, we'll see how far they get, but it's, it's really closely related to what, you know, we're after in terms of all of our fresh frozen.

1:16:39Collin PalmerI mean, When my lab was in Van Nuys, most of the stuff that we got came in these waxed boxes, much like strawberries, and they packed perfectly into the cube truck. So it's definitely something that we can look towards in terms of industry, but... I think you're totally right, Marcus. Like, we're forced to do these things. Like, forced to bring a freezer to a dispo. You know, a refrigerator.

1:17:06BubblemanDude, forget about that. We're forced to take a freezer to the farm.

1:17:12Collin PalmerI know. Yeah. And yeah, for a freezer, I mean, I, I, you know, yeah, it's the things we have to do are kind of outrageous, but it's also kind of what's endearing about it. You know, we're trying to figure out like everyone thinks they know, but like really we're all just, you know, in this, this boat of trying to figure it out, you know, and it's every market is like, I came to California thinking everybody knew fresh frozen and how it should roll and how SOPs should be.

1:17:37Collin PalmerAnd like guys would show up with like, Refrigerator trucks with wet fresh frozen to drop off, you know, so just a long way to go no matter what.

1:17:48BubblemanWell, the beautiful thing is, is it's already been done in every other industry. Like most of the things from our industry, if you look at the things that are novel and new, they've often been done in a multitude of other industries for decades.

1:18:04Collin Palmer100, yeah. But strawberries is like the closest that I saw. It's really, you know, look into it. It's pretty interesting how they do it.

1:18:12BubblemanYeah, well, strawberries, listen, Driscoll's does, I want to say 10 billion strawberry tissue culture plantlets per year that they ship all over the world. That alone, the logistics of that is absolutely mental. They send them with all the proper documentation from the molecular lab that shows they are void of virus and fungi and Bacterias, it's pretty incredible that something like that could be set up. And although I prefer the wild strawberries that grow in and around my area here, and I do love, you know, I won't say no to a Driscoll's.

1:18:54BubblemanI'll still eat some if it's all there is. It's not my choice of strawberry. But once again, how can you get strawberries to the entire world any other way other than just doing... Millions and millions of small strawberry operations versus one massive one. I think they do that out of one tissue culture lab in Colorado. Correct me if I'm wrong, if anyone knows here or in the chat, but I'm pretty sure I got that information from Dr. Shma Sabaya, the tissue culture expert over there at SEGRA.

1:19:29Collin PalmerIt does make sense, though. You know, you don't need a lab.

1:19:33BubblemanYeah. Hey, did we lose Etienne? Oh, and Samantha. Both of them popped off. Oh, I think I know what happens. When you turn your camera off now, you disappear completely. I accidentally clicked some setting that was like, when your camera's off, you disappear from chat. And I thought, yeah, that's a good idea. We don't need to have a black screen or a picture or whatever. And I don't like it quite as much as I did the other way.

1:19:57BubblemanBut it is what it is. Let's smoke some hash. Actually, let's show some hash. I want to talk a little bit about the jar check. First of all, I am a huge fan of jar check. This concept that I cannot believe I myself didn't come up with. It would have been the greatest thing for me to be doing for the last 15 to 20 fucking years. Hats off to Jolly Roger for coming up with it and being such a humble dude about it.

1:20:22BubblemanHe's like, dude, I'm... Because we're there. I'm thinking this guy's like, oh, I'm just going to be a hash expert. He's like, no, dude, I'm the custody. I'm talking. I'm looking at all these jars from a custody perspective. Would I buy this jar? He's got a microscope set up with like, oh, that was a funny sound. He's got a microphone set up with our microscope set up with hash.

1:20:43BubblemanThank you for watching.

1:21:06BubblemanHe also had like a 55-inch TV set up behind us. And on that TV, he had it set up to a macro camera lens that once we were done with it on our screen, we'd pass it over to Grant, I believe it was. And he'd put it under now the macro lens of the camera. And it would show up on a 55-inch TV, which you could really see.

1:21:29BubblemanNow, anyone that was in the room, there was a lineup of 20 or 30 people. We were at the Eagle Clash while we were doing this. We were in a really cool like fucking church. Like this was a trippy place. So I'm going to share my screen right now so you guys can kind of see this. So this is the little area, the little church where we were going to do it.

1:21:50BubblemanIt ended up not playing out that way because of the internet and the, you know, whatever the situation was. So we ended up in this little room. This is from up top. I'm looking down at, I guess, okay, yeah, you can't see our seats, but you can see sort of, you know, the camera set up and basically... This dude, I got to give this dude a shout out, and I wish I remembered his name, but his name is Minor Melts.

1:22:18BubblemanHis company name is Minor Melts. He gave me my first jar. It was called Cowboy's Perfume, and it was absolutely spectacular. I smoked this jar with so many different people, and everyone was like, dude, those are some of the most unique terps I've ever smelt. I met him at the Eagle Clash just walking around. So back to the inside here, back to the jar check. And this was a banana cultivar from Zura Farms, from my good homie from Zura Farms.

1:22:49BubblemanThese guys are the RKM crew from Barcelona. They win like everything. They've also got the brand Zuki, which is in Thailand, and they absolutely crush everything that they do. This one was another one of theirs, I believe. I'm not going to remember the name of all of these cultivars, but I did want to show some of the brands and some of the jars that they had going on.

1:23:14BubblemanThis was from Bobby La Collada and Bobby La Collada is always ahead of the game. The crew at La Collada, they're another sort of Italian based private club in Barcelona. I've been friends with these guys for decades. 15 plus years. They win legends constantly. I believe they won legends second place, maybe. Zura Farms and La Colada both won legends last time we did it in Barcelona. He's calling these and we couldn't believe this.

1:23:43BubblemanBoth Jolly Roger and I laughed our heads off when we saw this, but they call them points and each one is a point one of a gram. Thank you for watching.

1:24:11BubblemanIt was refreshing to see innovation and something new that didn't seem to affect the integrity of the resin in any way other than changing the form of it and making it absolutely perfect for dunking. I think if you made these more round You could literally have dunk competitions on Instagram. People throwing these little balls into their bangers from like six feet away. I don't know. I liked it.

1:24:38BubblemanI had fun watching and I enjoyed smoking it as well. Beautiful, beautiful hash. So many, although I think this particular one, when we put it under the microscope, oh, there it is. It was Ice Gourmet. That's right. It was Ice Gourmet. It was very, very beautiful. Leche de Almandrez. And I believe this one had a tiny little bit of contamination on it. It was just probably from someone opening it and smelling it.

1:25:03BubblemanSo we ended up getting it off. Really exceptional product. You can see this one's super wet. I am not sure. Oh, these were dab lights. So this is another new packaging. This package looks like a spray paint can. Fits in your hand. The top screws off and two jars fit inside of it. They're stickered together so the lids are on either side. You just crack them on either side.

1:25:29BubblemanAnd he had two different cultivars in one jar. I thought it was really a cool, innovative way to bring rosin to the market. And I got a shout out, La Chamvrier. This guy had absolutely spectacular resin. I know Etienne's going to smile because he pulled the Chamvrier jar out while he was at the club there on Hashchurch. Thank you so much for watching.

1:26:19BubblemanI don't know how or what he did, but in Spain, it's all about creating unique and novel things right now. So people are trying to come up with unique things. I could not believe how many static sifted resin glands I saw at the jar check with Jolly Roger. I also felt, and look at that, like a little ode to Skunk Man Sam with the hand almost reminds me of the Jerry hand.

1:26:47BubblemanAnytime anyone puts a hand on their static sifted

1:26:53BubblemanI told Jolly Roger Skunk Man Sam would have been elated. He probably would have liked this more than Legends of Hash, where he sits in a seat and people stand in a line to bring him jars and show him jars while he critiques them, smokes them, and gives them a little, you know, props. I was impressed with pretty much every single jar. The coach, these guys from Seville.

1:27:32BubblemanBeautiful resin glands. Absolutely perfect. Now I'm shooting with a phone so I couldn't get like nice macro shots, but Jolly Roger got macro shots of every single jar. And if you check both our Instagrams at Jolly Roger and at BC Bubble Man, you'll see the jar check where we go through all 36 or 37 jars. I don't know how many we saw. These guys, I wish I got to smoke more of their rosin.

1:27:57BubblemanThey left me a jar, but I left it with Jolly Roger and forgot about it and didn't really bump into him again afterwards. But these guys out of this world were a brand from Thailand. They're American crew that went to Thailand and set up and just had Thank you so much for joining us.

1:28:29BubblemanThe growing of it indoors, something is a little bit different about it. I can't remember the cultivar, but very nice. Gastown, Dave with the banana gas. This was wet and delicious. Super lovely. There's Gastown and his girl kind of looking because I said, oh, your rosin's on the TV right now. So there's the TV. Maybe it's only a 40 or a 50 inch. I can't remember what it was.

1:28:52BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

1:29:15BubblemanWho was this from? This shit was so clear, water fucking clear. It kind of blew me away. Pretty good picture for a cell phone too. Oh, let me see what we got. Oh, there we go. Yeah, like this stuff was like water clear. It literally looked like some CRC butane oil or something, but it was like live hash rosin and really was quite lovely. Growers with Attitudes.

1:29:41BubblemanI loved their logo. I loved the little wormies. I thought that was a pretty cool little jar and it was actually quite spectacular. Heavy Resin Premium Quality Static Dry Sift Hash. This was another beautiful, pure heads. Like, I don't know how they maintained it into being heads all the way until they got it to us. We put it under the scope. It looked beautiful under the scope.

1:30:05BubblemanThis is the scope that we had hooked up. For those of you that are wondering, I believe it's a... Blick Live, Blick Live, Flick Live, I don't know, F-L-I-K-L-I-V, 52 megapixel, 4K, P30. It's a beautiful unit. I have no idea what the cost is. He had it set up so pro with additional lighting for the different jars. I really was impressed with this whole system. And I told him, I'm like, dude, I am doing jar checks, man.

1:30:33BubblemanI will shout you out every time, but you have inspired me beyond inspired to do these jar checks. And like I said, this resin was absolutely just pure heads all the way. It looked as beautiful as any resin I had ever seen. So shout out to the hash makers at the Ego Clash Jar Check. I do not believe all of these jars. In fact, I don't believe a single jar you've seen yet, or maybe a few of them were entered into Ego.

1:31:01BubblemanWe did go through the entire Ego Clash Jar Stash soon after we went through these original jars, but this was level. level two was the was the brand i really like the l e v e l two it's super low key you almost can't see it in the packaging uh but there it is and i believe it was a banana one i can't remember all the way at the top of this little tower that we were in by the way it was Pretty cold in this little tower.

1:31:29BubblemanSo it was a pretty good spot to do the jar check. The resin wasn't, you know, leaking or melting or, you know, off gassing terribly, but enough to still smell everything beautifully. That was a full melt bubble. I can't remember which one it was, but I remember just, it looked like concentrated X, this local hash maker from Canada, just the way it turned to caramel, the way it greased up.

1:31:51BubblemanI love when full melt bubble hash greases up like that. These were actually the Eagle Clash jars right here. I'm not sure. Hash Theory. Another beautiful melt. And I think that is it for the jars. So I just wanted to sort of share that. I might share some more pictures of Barcelona later and Spanibus. Bumped into a ton of awesome people. Got to see people that I've been going to Spanibus with for the last 20 plus years.

1:32:19BubblemanMy first one was in 2004 was my first Spanibus. So it was bittersweet. A tear in one eye for the end of an era. A glimmer of hope in the other eye for the beginning of a new era. So that's Bilbao up in the north, Basque country, not quite Barcelona, but beautiful, beautiful country. For those of you that want to go to Spanibus next year, I will definitely be there and hope to see you there.

1:32:49BubblemanWe'll see how it goes on a different level. I also managed to make it to Amsterdam for Dave Watson, a.k.a. Skunk Man Sam, celebration of life that we did at the boathouse In a greenhouse, if you can imagine. Jair from Dutch Horticulture, the founder of Gavita was there. Soma read some beautiful poems. I saw Eddie from The Flying Dutchman. I haven't seen him for years. Simon came in from Serious Seeds.

1:33:16BubblemanThere was just a lot of really great folks who managed to come in and celebrate his life with us. Lorenzo showed up with like 25 jars of absolute fire, set up a dab station outside on the deck of the greenhouse and basically dabbed everyone out for about two hours straight. And it was amazing because I knew that Dave himself If he showed up to his own funeral, he would have been outside dabbing during the special words that were happening on the inside.

1:33:49BubblemanIt just made me chuckle and remember Dave as I will forever as the biggest lover of resin that I have ever... Thank you for watching. I'll see you next time.

1:34:17BubblemanI got another beautiful jar when I was hanging out with Lorenzo from Pioneer Farms. Go check out Pioneer Farms. He also gave me a sour diesel. Both were super old school sour diesel flavors. So it was nice to hook up Scott Deppi with a dab of that. I bumped into him at the Puffco. Booth, they were lacing him up with his Puffco Peak, and I figured we might as well sit down and puff a few bowls with him, which is, for those of you that don't know, which I'm sure most of you do, he's the founder of Mothership Glass.

1:34:50BubblemanAnd, you know, just, you know, Colin has his, I've got mine. I'm sure many, many other people who are watching and on the panel, these mothership glass pipes, they just hit different. Sure, there was a hype involved, no doubt about it. They had a massive hype, but it's rare when the functionability and the actual quality and caliber of something matches the hype that it can build. I often think Scott built his hype, not through hype at all, but through the fact that his glass was just, Thank you for watching.

1:35:37Etienne FontanHow stoned could you possibly be?

1:35:40BubblemanWell, I found out. Let me, let me tell you. Fuck around and find out. And that I did when I first went to his house because I smoked his, first of all, it's not normal to sit around and smoke 60 fucking bong rips in like a session. But that's normal for Dave. That was pretty much the way it went. I bet he must have hit 100 if I hit 60.

1:36:01BubblemanMaybe I only hit 40. I don't know what I hit. It was so much that when I left, I was almost incapable of walking. And the guy has like 42 of the gnarliest fucking stairs you've ever been on in your life. Like if you have a big foot, you better turn your foot sideways because you're going to slip on your heel down these stairs. And when you hit your Cossacks on the stairs and slide down, it's Totally going to ruin the high that you have.

1:36:26BubblemanSo luckily I didn't do that. I managed to get down the stairs okay. But walking to try and get a cab afterwards, I have never been that high in my life then, now, or since ever. It was absolutely astronomically shocking to my brain and to my consciousness that I could be that high just from smoking hash. That's when I really, really, really changed how I looked at cannabis, how I looked at quality.

1:36:57BubblemanQuality is a path. You know, when you're learning, at least for me, the first time I smoked hash that sizzled, like barely sizzled, I thought, holy shit, look at that. I've got this melty hash. And then as I, you know, moved on and made hash purer and purer from nicer materials, I hit that day where it turned to water and melted through the screen. And that's when I realized that, okay, this, this is a journey.

1:37:25BubblemanNow smoked that for a couple of years before I met Sam. And when I went to his house and smoked his hash, I I realized that the hash I was smoking was decent, but the hash that he was smoking was seeds that he collected in all the hash producing countries, brought back, planted in massive numbers, collected the genetics of like four or five population, bred over a decade into creating his resin, and then used a process that he discovered accidentally in Africa and didn't tell anyone for about 25 years.

1:37:56BubblemanSo I realized I was playing checkers While Sam was playing chess. And he taught me that I did not realize that now it's nice to be playing chess. And it's also nice to welcome Brian from Best Friend Farms into the room. Because when it comes to making resin and growing flowers, he's definitely playing chess.

1:38:18Bryan Best Friend FarmsHey, how's it going, brother? Doing well, doing well, just staying at it, staying busy, making the resin, making the Piatella, some different new faces in here and new plants that I've been putting through the test. Had some winners going to Piatella lately. So yeah, just been enjoying here and happy to jump in. I love the resin you're showing, looks amazing.

1:38:46BubblemanYeah, you would have been all over it, dude. You got to come to Basque Country next year and come to Spanavis. And I think what I was talking with Jair from Dutch Horticulture, their lighting company, and we were talking at first, I got to shout him out. He gave me an absolutely beautiful jacket. I'm going to have to go get it at one point in time. He made 42 of these hemp hoodlum jackets.

1:39:07BubblemanHe calls them legends of cannabis. It's got a beautiful cannabis embroidered leaf on the inside lapel. They're all numbered and say legends of cannabis. And then on the inside pocket, there's a little write-up of what the legends of cannabis is. Of course, Skunk Man Sam and his wife Diana got one each and Soma has one and Doug from TH Seeds has one. And there's a whole incredible group of people who have these jackets.

1:39:32BubblemanSo I got to shout him out. But I was talking to him and Lorenzo at David's Celebration of Life. And I said, we need to do a celebration for David with a Legends of Hash here in Amsterdam. And so I wanna do a Legends of Hash Possibly next year around March sometime after Spanibus where we can all kind of head up to Amsterdam and celebrate Dave in a proper style.

1:39:58BubblemanMaybe even do a jar check, Puff Co, Legends of Hash. I'm just kind of spitballing. I've spoken to them a little bit about it, but I think it would be a wonderful thing. Thank you so much for joining us.

1:40:32BubblemanA hashish aficionado and really an ambassador of hashish at the highest level from the respect he had for the science of the plant and understanding the pathways to get things done in a mainstream society, which a lot of us really had no understanding of back in the day. And I think he took a lot of hate for having that understanding and understanding of it. But man, talk about an ambassador to taking the plant to the highest levels.

1:40:58BubblemanI'll always be grateful. That is for sure.

1:41:04BubblemanTime for a dab. Maybe a little full melt. Six star. Papaya Bang Bang. I think that's the one.

1:41:12Dr Mark ScialdoneHey Marcus, I gotta jump. I gotta head to the airport.

1:41:16BubblemanThanks for coming in, Dr. Mark.

1:41:18Dr Mark ScialdoneHave a great week. Enjoy all things hash. Talk to you guys later. Bye.

1:41:23BubblemanYes, in 20 minutes, because I definitely missed the two hour, or no, 9, 10, 11. Yeah, so in 20 minutes, we're going to do that giveaway. In the meantime, I'm going to light up this papaya bang bang. Tell me that doesn't just make your mouth water. Like, does that not make your mouth water?

1:41:41Etienne FontanActually, it gives me cotton mouth. I think it just does the opposite.

1:41:46BubblemanYeah, I think we should all show our jars simultaneously because I know, look, Colin's running to go get his. I just saw him run behind. Now, if you have a background screen, we can, but you got to hold it in front of your face only because you have a background screen set up. So I usually use my hands to get it close and then try to open it up to the light.

1:42:06BubblemanThat's great little screenshot of everyone's. Hell yeah. All right. So one by one, what are you hitting inventing room, Jacob? Oh, you're muted. Sorry, I muted you. Everyone, I mute your mics if it's not muted. Here, I can send you a button because you're on your phone. I'll ask you to unmute and then it'll be easier. Oh, no, I fucked up and I muted it again right when you unmuted it.

1:42:29BubblemanThere you go.

1:42:30SpeakerCool. Right on. So I'm smoking on some Red Ranger from Exotic Genetics. That's the Red Pop and Falcon 9.

1:42:41BubblemanDude. Bad old dab of that right now. That's what's up. But wait for us. We're all going to dab together. I'm also hitting exotic genetics. I'm hitting papaya bang bang. And go ahead, Samantha, what are you hitting?

1:42:54SpeakerI am hitting a cross I just got at Nikan. I'm not sure what the cross is, but the strain is named Amalfi Coast. Oh, there you go. And it's from our friends over at Bada Bloom from their medical grow.

1:43:12BubblemanVery nice.

1:43:13SpeakerIt tastes so good. There's like almost a jasmine thing going on.

1:43:19BubblemanBeautiful. Dutch Blooms, what are you puffing on?

1:43:24SpeakerI'm smoking on Bickett OG two ways. I just took a dab of the rosin fresh press, which is hard to show in this black jar.

1:43:34BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

1:44:00SpeakerIt's just such a different version from the rosin. The rosin, when you smell it, it's very GMO forward. When you smell this, it's almost the opposite. It's the cherry pie forward. It smells very cherry. It's interesting how just the way that the hash is cured versus through the presses is totally different, you know? God, you make me want to get my mothership out and get it cleaned up.

1:44:27SpeakerI've been relying on this Puffco because it's so convenient lately, but things truly do get better through the mothership.

1:44:35BubblemanI just puffed that Puffco for like almost two weeks straight. So when I can, I hit a few dabs off my ship. What about you, ATN? What are you puffing on?

1:44:50Etienne FontanI showed my mix, which is my Everlasting Gobstopper from 2014. That's still ongoing. But I've been hitting this Kahlia Mellows with a Z, number seven. Very nice. That's the stuff that came with its own little refrigerator, you know, so. Just trying to see, very terpy, very delicious.

1:45:10BubblemanThat's classy for sure. And you, Brian, what are you hitting on?

1:45:16Bryan Best Friend FarmsI got here a little of my strawberry smoothie bands. So a citrus smoothie by a strawberry headbands that I bred like five years ago, but brought it back in. And then that's my rosin. I got a few new Piatella's, but this is the newest one here that I'm kind of like getting familiar with, the Kush bands. Try to open it up here. See what I got.

1:45:42BubblemanNice. Feel it's open, brethren.

1:45:46SpeakerThere. Little shortbread.

1:45:51Etienne FontanLittle stocky, little lock there.

1:45:53BubblemanLittle loaf. A fat little lump she is.

1:45:57Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah.

1:46:00BubblemanI dab it. Little hash.

1:46:05BubblemanSo one of the things I saw at Spanibus, I met this absolute fucking maniac that I felt like was my brother from another mother. And he had this little tool. It's too bad Dr. Mark's not here because it was a testing device. Well, I'm sure it used infrared, but on some different level from Gem Assert and some of the other units that exist. So it was a little handheld unit.

1:46:29BubblemanI'm going to show this homie right now. His name was Ruben. Ruben. This guy was so much fun. The minute I met him, he gave me like a 20 gram psilocybin mushroom. He had a giant bag and he was just giving them all away. I'm pretty sure he was probably on one as well. So it was just a wonderful experience hanging out with this guy. But this little handheld unit that he's got in his hand.

1:46:52BubblemanValen Veras is the company's name. Valen Veras. This guy, first of all, is like, he's very, very, very intelligent. And he helped design this unit. And he's got the salesperson that was working for Gemacert. They kind of walked us through it. Now, I couldn't possibly tell you everything about it, but I am going to get a unit to test out. But it was one of the most impressive...

1:47:17BubblemanHe was dropping rosin and testing it and full melt and it was giving him these full like much more than just a cannabinoid readout. He was talking about how the infrared basically reads the shadow of the vibration. So the molecules are vibrating, they create a shadow, this machine picks up that shadow through infrared and then can give you these extremely accurate numbers. So, uh, I was impressed with it.

1:47:43BubblemanI wanted to mention it briefly and definitely we'll be talking about that particular unit in the future. He was talking about it measuring like, Different components in the plant so that you know when you need certain nutrients. Like I'm telling you, this thing blew my mind. And it was super small. And the best part about it, because I got the Gem Assert and I was like, this thing is fucked.

1:48:06BubblemanIt's not working. And then when I finally figured out that if you put the Gem Assert in its own room on a table that can't vibrate, in a room with no vibrations, where the door doesn't open or close, where there's no music or a cell phone or a person breathing, that machine was pretty accurate. Like within 1%. Of all the material we tested in it, it was tested already in a lab at least one time.

1:48:30BubblemanSo we were testing material that we had already lab tested with our Gem Assert. We just realized that this fucking thing doesn't work unless there's literally no vibrations because of the design and the engineering of the way the optics work. This fucking thing that these guys had, he was like holding it in his hand going, oh, no, you can shake this one. No problem. I was like, oh, my God, like he would have destroyed the Gemma cert if he ever did that to it.

1:48:55BubblemanSo I was pretty impressed with it. Definitely worth looking into. And we'll talk about it a little more in the future here on Hash Church. What a tripper. Yeah, bumped into the old owner of the gray area. Hadn't seen him in years. Bumped into my good friend Javier from Medical Seeds, who's doing much better. And yeah, it was just an all-around really good little trip. Good food was had.

1:49:24BubblemanSold some bubble bags to some cool people along the way, which I love to see people are still like... Interested in bubble bags, you know, like it's I have really not put a lot of time and energy into that company. Over the last five years, I put so much more energy into things like hash church and, you know, my brand and all the other things that I'm doing.

1:49:43BubblemanBut it's nice to see that we're still representing out there. And I just love making a product that's that is out in the world producing hash. That's my favorite thing about selling bubble bags that people that use them are just making wonderful hash like it's making the world a better place. Because there's more hash and, you know, really more live hash rosin because we're still in a place where most people are not growing full melt resin, you know, and I think that's why rosin is amazing in the solventless world because you can take, and I know it sounds harsh when I say mediocre, but you can take mediocre hash and turn it into really substantially Exceptional rosin.

1:50:27BubblemanSo it's a pretty cool thing that all of that mid bubble, all that bubble that was four star, not, you know, just not quite the chaser of bangers to be able to reduce that and get rid of it. The hair straightener is probably the greatest cannabis invention since water hash, literally. Water hash, then rosin. To me, those are the two greatest cannabis innovations and inventions in a very long time, at least from the processing perspective.

1:51:01SpeakerWell, gentlemen, women, folks, I must say good afternoon to you all.

1:51:08BubblemanAre you going to say hi to Craig before you leave?

1:51:11SpeakerOh, there's Craig. Hey, Craig. It's been a minute. Good to see your face, bro. You're on mute. You look like you're outside in the garden. Maybe surfing? Surfing.

1:51:25SpeakerYou're on mute. We can't hear you.

1:51:27BubblemanI tried to ask him to unmute, but I don't think he's got it. It's hard on a phone when you're on Zoom because you can't find the mute button. But usually when I ask to unmute, I think it pops up on the screen, which I've done three times. Oh, you're there? Oh, no, he's still muted. Weird. Well, we can't hear you, brother, but we want to. We really want to.

1:51:55SpeakerAnyways, I will say good afternoon to you guys. Thanks for having me. Good recap. I love the jar check thing, man. I want to do that. I think more folks should do that concept. It's very cool.

1:52:10BubblemanYeah, it's definitely awesome. Well, thanks for coming in, Dutch Blooms, Joshua Rutherford in the house. We'll see you next time. We're still here for a little while. I'm going to do this giveaway in about nine minutes. I'm not super good at it, so bear with me. But yeah, in nine minutes, we're going to do this little giveaway. And I guess that will be that. We'll choose a winner.

1:52:34BubblemanWe've got 205 entries right now because people are all chatting. So I guess it's just a matter of me hitting the choose a winner button. And when I do it, I'll screen share. Oh, you got some honey bananas there? I love the banana flavor. One of the bananas that the guys from Zura Farms gave us, like that I took a rip of, Was the best banana flavor I have ever exhaled out of my mouth.

1:53:00BubblemanIt was absolutely pure and simply bananas. And prior to that, honey bananas was pretty much my all-time favorite banana flavor, but this one was just more banana. Only on the exhale though, not on the inhale. What are we giving away, Chuck? Well, Chuck, we're giving away this Canna backpack. Not this one, actually, but we're giving away this Canna backpack. The zippers are like from an Arc'teryx jacket.

1:53:27BubblemanLike they're completely air sealed. Yeah, and the bag is like super quality that the Canna... Sort of, you know, names and patterns inside there, the logos. But when I first got it, I was kind of like, oh, that's too small. I'm not going to use that backpack. I don't really, I don't know. I'll be honest. I just, I kind of had a bit of an attitude thinking it wasn't good enough.

1:53:51BubblemanAnd now it's like the only backpack that I use. It's just like smaller than my other backpacks. And when I put all my flavors into it, it just keeps them from... From stinking, and I stink when I go out, let me tell you. It is, it's no joke when you get to the bank and everyone's going like this.

1:54:12BubblemanLooking around, it's like, what is that? Well, that there would be cannabis hashish.

1:54:17SpeakerWe were going to the airport and you were stinking it up.

1:54:20BubblemanDude, there you are. That's right, I was stinking it up at the airport. Who were those police again that we were smoking right across from?

1:54:28SpeakerOh, La Moses Escuadra.

1:54:31BubblemanAh, La Moses Escuadra. We're just puffing and he's going, those are the worst police in Spain.

1:54:40Etienne FontanOr the most intense.

1:54:41BubblemanLook at that. There's Sam I am. Dude, you're in his chair. That's profound. That kind of hit me.

1:54:50SpeakerMr. Mr. Jingles is right here. Come here, Jingles.

1:54:57BubblemanJingles is awesome. For those of you that want to see Jingles, I'll show you Jingles.

1:55:04Etienne FontanHe is by walking on you in the morning there, right?

1:55:08SpeakerNot today. He didn't. He's kind of accepted me as being here now. First few days. He didn't know.

1:55:13BubblemanThere he is. Mr. Jingles, that cat was extremely excited and bouncing off the walls. I will say that about Jingles. Very cool. Six minutes. We're going to give that backpack away. So what are you puffing on there, Chimera?

1:55:33SpeakerI got the DNA one out.

1:55:36BubblemanOoh, sour diesel.

1:55:40BubblemanThat's the one that Deppie really liked.

1:55:44BubblemanMan, I'll tell you. The nicest thing I was given, first of all.

1:55:49SpeakerIt's too sweet to be sour diesel. I don't know. I'm sorry. It's not. I just, I don't buy it. But it is absolutely amazing whatever it is. Is it missing the funk?

1:55:59BubblemanIt definitely is.

1:55:59SpeakerOh, it's got the funk. It's just, it's a little too sweet to be sour diesel for me.

1:56:04BubblemanWell, that's what happens when you concentrate it into like live hash rosin that's 12.9% terpenes.

1:56:13SpeakerYeah, but it's not, though, because it's a different profile. It's absolutely dank, don't get me wrong.

1:56:22BubblemanWhat about the one from Pioneer Farms? Did I give you that one, too?

1:56:25SpeakerI'm not sure. I've kind of just been going at them one at one.

1:56:29BubblemanBecause that was a sour diesel as well, and it was also very, very much like that one, the sweet one.

1:56:40BubblemanWell, hopefully one day... Someone will create a company that can really make it so we know unequivocally what cultivar is what cultivar in regards to the olfactory representation. Because I think this happens with a lot of cultivars where people are just not... Thank you for watching.

1:57:19BubblemanI knew you would know that.

1:57:20SpeakerSmoke and Sean at one point in time sold a bunch of clones of that down to the States. And so I know that it officially is down there. It doesn't spread very far, but it's, uh, yeah.

1:57:36BubblemanThe guy said he got like a less than 1% return off the fresh frozen, 0.5% return.

1:57:43SpeakerWell, remember, it's a terpenylene variety too. I would never forget.

1:57:48BubblemanI would never forget that it's not just a terpenylene variety, but, and I will let you explain, why is Sweet Skunk so special and doesn't have that sharp cat pissy terpenylene right at the end, but it sort of rounds off to a much more For me, like, and not for me, but for the masses, a more enjoyable experience that seems to lack the anxiety.

1:58:09SpeakerYeah, well, I think it probably has some weird effects as well. I remember who was talking about it. I think it was Ethan was talking about it at one point in time that it binds to a whole different set of receptors. It's the one that, I mean, I mean, even your buddy there, what was his name? Moses, the guy that had the... That terpenylene variety that became Blockhead, P19.

1:58:35SpeakerOh yeah. And that used to make people kind of unstable. And it's like a terpenylene variety. We have a whole bunch of terpenylene varieties. Like the real train rack is a terpenylene variety. Most Jack is a terpenylene variety. Lemon, um, What's it called? Lemon Skunk from DNA. They're all kind of in the same family. And in that terpene profile, terpenylene is way dominant. Like it makes up like over 50% of the fraction of the total essential oil.

1:59:06SpeakerSo it's not like one of these balanced terpene profiles where you get a whole bunch of stuff together. It's like almost all terpenylene and then there's a little bit of other stuff. And that's like the really, like whenever you see terpenylene varieties, that's kind of the most common thing. But in sweet skunk about terpenylene is approximately equal with osamine, which is quite rare. And osamine is found in varieties that are like, you always hear people talking about like tropical stuff.

1:59:38SpeakerLike Skittles, right? I'm actually not sure about Skittles. I mean, again, Skittles is like a name, right? It gets applied to a whole bunch of different plants. Right, right. You know, we really got to be talking about one specific plant to really be, unless we're talking about a true, like a true breeding variety, right? Like you can't really just use the name because often when you grow a named seed lot, you end up with all these different flavors within.

2:00:05SpeakerRight, right. It's like, how do you use the name to describe all those different things?

2:00:10BubblemanI will, I will say this about Skittles because I did jar check with Jolly Roger and we saw at least 10 Skittles jars, all different Z Boof and Skittles this and Skittles that, and they all had Skittles flavor in a very similar, similar way. So I get what you're saying, but Skittles is different. Kind of different in the sense that whatever. And I was talking about this with Jolly Roger.

2:00:36BubblemanWe were kind of like, why is it that anything Skittles goes into competition wise? It just wins. The masses fucking love it. And he suggested, because we were talking about sensory science and how there's like hypersensitivities that people have and there's blind spots that people have. And those sort of foundational aspects of sensory science will affect how you perceive all of these different flavor profiles, obviously, because certain things are You're, you're hyper experiencing and other things you're not experiencing at all.

2:01:06BubblemanSo it gets in and he suggested, he said, how weird would it be if Skittles is just this weird profile that the majority of people All of these things seem to be able to experience in a full way. Whereas, you know, when it comes to wine, for instance, like sommeliers are experiencing wine differently from the majority of people that they're perceiving things that maybe the majority of people that are drinking wine are not.

2:01:32BubblemanAnd maybe the most popular wines are also ones that hit larger swaths of the population in regards to how they perceive those flavor profiles. It's an interesting thought anyway. Right, right.

2:01:46BubblemanAll right, I got a mid-puff.

2:01:49SpeakerIt's like, it's awesome. I'm just getting the dregs. I need to find those little ISO Q-tips that you had. Did you talk about those?

2:02:03BubblemanYeah, I just, I don't know. Those were given to me while I was in...

2:02:09BubblemanAmsterdam. No. Yeah. Amsterdam. I was given those. So they were cool. They were little Q-tips that you cracked in half and then ISO would like swoop down into the middle. But I gave them away. I left them all with with Chimera over at Sam. So. Yes, indeed. Marcus.

2:02:28SpeakerYes, indeed. I want to take this moment to thank you guys so much for having me on. I really, really appreciate being on the panel today. And I just want to say peace out to all of you guys. And hopefully I can catch up with you guys on here again soon.

2:02:41BubblemanHell yeah, dude. Thanks for coming on, Jacob. And I'm a few minutes late, but I'm gonna give that backpack away. So bear with me here. Hey, Craig, let's see if we can hear you real quick.

2:02:51JacobYes, you can. I had to go back in and out and got it sorted out. But, you know, one thing after you give your backpack away, I wanted to This is something I was trying to get across when you were talking about your bubble bags and rosin and what that has brought forth. So give the backpack away and then let me pick up the conversation. Okay, awesome.

2:03:15BubblemanAwesome. All right. So I'm going to screen share here. It seems like we have 232 entries. Anyone that wants to enter that's listening right now, all you have to do is just type a word. And that should put you in. I think the majority of you have been typing like nonstop for the last 10 minutes. So there might only be like two or 300 of you in the chat right now.

2:03:36BubblemanI'm not sure. But yeah, let's just choose a winner. Let's do it. Boom.

2:03:48BubblemanWaiting for messages. Following status unknown. Ben Inya. It looks like Ben Inya is the winner.

2:03:58BubblemanSo Ben Inya, if you can do me a favor and send me a message. You can type it into the chat or you can type it in ideally to my email, bcbubbleman at icloud.com. And yeah, send me a message. I want to make sure that I only get it from Ben Inya. So we're going to have to figure out a way to confirm who Ben is. Maybe Ben, you can put your email that it's going to come from in the chat room.

2:04:29BubblemanAnd that way I'll know. Who's going to be sending me this email and otherwise I don't want to have to like be all stoned and be like, holy shit, there's like 43 Ben Inyas that have contacted me for this backpack and I have no idea whatsoever how to figure out who the real one is. So if you're out there, Ben, maybe everyone else can stop typing for half a second and Ben can type in to the conversation his email.

2:05:01BubblemanAll right, all right. Okay, Greg, so first of all, I want to thank Canna for supplying that backpack. They are the ones that's going to ship it to you direct, Ben. So if you want to just get me your email as soon as you can.

2:05:16SpeakerDo you not know who's been in you?

2:05:21BubblemanOf course I do.

2:05:25BubblemanYou're hilarious, dude.

2:05:29BubblemanBig up, big up, Ben in you. I just want to make sure that he's a real person. Otherwise, I got to run this competition again. So if everyone, if Ben could just type something into the chat room, he's gone. Seriously, he's here. Ben is the man. Okay, don't do that. Wow. It's like, yeah, it is a troll name. It doesn't matter. Trolls win too. Listen, you could be a troll name and still win.

2:05:51BubblemanIt's a fucking hilarious troll name. Listen, 11 year old me would have absolutely loved that. So come on. But if I don't see him in the chat in the next few minutes, I'm going to have to give it to someone else. So if he's in the chat, I just need to see his email really quick. I'll give you a couple minutes and then I'm going to...

2:06:16BubblemanHave to give it to someone else. Ben's not here, dude. Half the people have said Ben's not here. Oh, there he is. He's there. I see him. Ben, there you are. Amazing how many people said he wasn't in there. Wankers. Ben, can you type your email real quick and then Bingo Lombardi will get it written down and sent to me and we'll go over to Craig right now because he's going to say some cool things about Bubble Hash and Rosin.

2:06:44JacobYeah, Marcus, what I was going to say is You know, one thing for a farm like ours that is a, you know, pretty much a seed sown farm. We don't have it. We don't have the ability because we're off grid to hold a clone room or anything like that. So other than relying on some of our really amazing local nurseries, we're doing a lot of seed work and growing from seed.

2:07:09JacobAnd what we've learned is when we pull a population of 100, We can go through and do our phenotypic selection right there. And out of that 100, we could pull say five of those plants because they're monstrous plants. Five of those plants can go to our flower brand. And then we can even hunt the rest of the field and decide what grouping of plants can go towards rosin or hash.

2:07:39JacobUm, in there and then homogenize among those tighter populations. So that's, that's one thing that like bubble hash and rosin has really helped us on our farm. Um, and even to do some micro washes, you know, I don't know how much you guys talked about that. We've worked with Adam and, uh, simply Adam and used as resin dial, which is a great place to start, you know, jar test.

2:08:06JacobAnd do the resin dial. But to do a one gallon or five gallon wash with your bags is pretty vital to get a really good read as to what we're going to get. And if we didn't have that ability to engage in the hash and rosin market, a farm like ours, like, I don't know that we would be in the same position we're in right now. And it's been just an amazing, I don't want to use the word leg up, but like, You know, ability to do that type of process to keep us current and moving forward without having a full-blown nursery plugged into the grid.

2:08:47JacobIt's really a regenerative system that is so helpful. Just ice in a bag and you're doing it and able to compete in this super competitive California market.

2:09:00BubblemanYeah, it's awesome, man. I'll tell you, the first time I brought it to Jamaica in the very early 2000, it was a game changer. I just saw... How profound it was for the little guy, for the person with kind of nothing, you know, the kind of like, oh, you needed some bags. Like I, you know, I personally had this delusional insight that I was going to go to Jamaica and sell, you know, just tons of bags.

2:09:25BubblemanAnd what I did do is I went to Jamaica and I gave away tons of bags because it was just not a situation where I could monetize it in Jamaica. It was like they weren't monetizing it. I was like, Now, you know what? Keep these bags, start a business. And these bags created these little, listen, I'll never forget. I was in Panama and I bumped into, why am I spacing his name?

2:09:51BubblemanHarborside, Steve. I bumped into Steve in Panama. I actually, I knew he was in Panama and I saw him post something and I was like, I think he's in the same hotel as me. And I was like, you know, on the 20th floor or something in this hotel. And no, sorry, I wasn't in Panama. That's terrible. I was in, I was in Columbia and I can't remember exactly where I was in Columbia, but it was a Colombian hotel room that I was in.

2:10:20BubblemanAnd I texted him, I say, hey, did you want to hit some foam out? And he texted back right away like, absolutely. I said, I'm in Columbia. I think I'm in the same hotel you're in right now. And he wrote back. He said, OK, I'll be up there right away kind of thing. And he came up and we filmed a little bit with him, my partner Bruce from Embark.

2:10:41BubblemanAs well as Steve D'Angelo and a couple of people that he was with. And he told a story about how bubble bags, like after being busted and he was broke and desperate and he saw these bags and he ordered these bags and he was literally like, it was like how I built, he said, I built it all from making bubble hash. I just started making bubble hash and like selling it and getting it over here and getting it over there.

2:11:04BubblemanAnd I was like, oh, this is a crazy idea. Like, like, I can't believe I'm getting this on film right now. He's telling me right now that the birth of his entities was from making bubble hash. And I just thought that was a really cool thing. And I know that it was mine, you know, for me, when I started making bubble hash, that's where a lot of my successes came from.

2:11:24BubblemanAnd more so when I started teaching other people how to make bubble hash, because it was this unique business model, where It's the opposite of all of these large brands, right? It's this business model where I make a little bit when I sell the bag and I sell it to, say, a distributor. And then they make a little bit more than me and sell it to wholesalers.

2:11:50BubblemanAnd wholesalers are retailing it and they make more than all of us before them. And then it sells to a customer. And as long as that customer makes a bunch of hash with those bags, they gain more value than all of us in the chain. And that's why it always worked and it was successful because the end person, the person who was coughing up the real dough to get the bags, They were the ones that were going to gain the most, whether that gain was in, you know, resin for your head or whether it was a monetary thing that you were going to sell some of the resin or a combination of the two.

2:12:28BubblemanSo shout out to Bubble Bags. Welcome Jen Doe into the room. I think it said Emily at first and I was like, whoa, who's this Emily that's popping into the room?

2:12:40Jenn DoeI had an old nanny that commandeered my laptop for a little while, and I thought that I got all the settings changed, but every time I go on on this profile into the Zoom, it labels me as Emily, so it's a great reminder of, you know, you know.

2:12:58BubblemanHey, it's not as bad as Dr. David Allen. Every time he comes in, it shows his phone number. Oh yeah, and then I'm like quickly like trying to like change the name of it as quickly as I can. I used to do the same for Skunk Man. He'd come in under David Watson and not realize it.

2:13:16Etienne FontanI was about to say how many times did we be like, hey, David's name's up. Change it quick.

2:13:22BubblemanThere was even like maybe twice where a part of his face was visible and I got so many messages. Oh my God, I saw Skunk Man, Sam.

2:13:32Jenn DoeIt's on here.

2:13:33BubblemanI was like, yes, you did.

2:13:35Jenn DoeI feel like I've gotten pretty quick about finding that rename option, though, but I don't know how to do it permanently. So I think once I get off this time, because I keep thinking if I rename it, it'll stay renamed. No, it just reverts right back. So I don't know what she did.

2:13:52BubblemanIt's the joy of computers. Go ahead.

2:13:55Etienne FontanYou got kicked off of Instagram and have to restart all over again. What's going on?

2:14:00Jenn DoeYeah, again. So now bong rants is the page I'm using. I haven't tried to push too many people to like share it because I feel like the more people that share it that I get, the more disappointed I get when I'm under attack again. But whoever, and I know who it is, but I think their money must have ran out to the hacker that they were trying to use because I haven't gotten any like random PDF file texts over the last, Thank you for joining us today.

2:14:40BubblemanIndeed. Well, just think all of your information is on the dark web. Most of your passwords, your address, your phone number, like it's not hard and you don't really have to be a hacker nowadays to go onto the dark web and access that information. It's shocking. You can get VPNs like NordVPN that like monitors the dark web for your particular information. So every time it's It's disconcerting, though, because you cannot believe how often your shit gets sold to the dark web.

2:15:11BubblemanAnd that's where all those random, a lot of weird texts and phone numbers and just all sorts of bullshit that I'm sure most of the people on the panel have been victim to. We get the ones on our phone, like endless call centers buy a lot of phone numbers from the dark web. That's an easy way to gain access. But yeah, it sucks, man. I'm sorry that you're going through that.

2:15:31BubblemanHopefully, whoever the hater is will... Stop hating soon and not pick up any new ones.

2:16:05BubblemanAnd part of the, you know, I guess the agreement was that the slanderer had to publicly go around and apologize for the slandering and the liable that they were spewing. So it's like the internet isn't as safe of a place as people might think, and it's changing drastically. So... You know, I see a lot of things on Instagram where companies and people are slandering companies and it's just like, holy shit.

2:16:33BubblemanAnd people, it's like, you probably should avoid doing that. Like, there is more recourse than people realize.

2:16:41Jenn DoeYep.

2:16:42BubblemanThe other thing I would say is even though I know right now, especially with Hash Church, I would crumble pretty hard. We just really have to make sure that we don't define ourselves by our social media accounts and that we're so, so much more than the amount of followers we have and the amount of likes that we get. That it's hard sometimes. I do remember losing my YouTube channel and being pretty devastated, mostly for Hash Church more than anything.

2:17:11BubblemanBut kind of getting to the point where it was like, you know what? As long as my kids are healthy and my wife is healthy, if I got to lose a social media account and that's got to be sort of my cross to bear, I'll take that.

2:17:28Jenn DoeYeah, and I think once it happens numerous times, like the first one is really like the hardest blow. And then the second one, it's like very frustrating. But then the third one's like, what are you going to do? Go ahead, delete me again. Like, I'll just make another one.

2:17:43BubblemanAnd then the 300th one, you're like, 300! We hit 300!

2:17:50BubblemanI do look forward to the day where cannabis is just allowed on social media and welcomed and we can really show them how big our community and our industry is by really just allowing us, you know, just to promote and talk about this plant in the way that we want to be able to talk about it. Holy shit. Have we been limited once again by the people with limitations?

2:18:14BubblemanDon't limit the limitless. And come on.

2:18:18Jenn DoeI feel that. So I do want to add, I was, I was, you know, finishing up what I had to do for my morning family stuff. Uh, and everybody was sharing their hash. So I had to go pull some out of the stash. So this is what I am working with.

2:18:35SpeakerBeautiful.

2:18:36Jenn DoeSix star full melt. So this was a collaboration with Good Life Gardens out in Maine that I did a couple months ago. Um, I actually love working with their stuff because I had a little hand in helping train them in their earlier days and whatnot. So to be able to go out and, you know, see all of the progress that they've made and then be able to like now kind of mentor them to be able to wash hash as well.

2:19:03Jenn DoeAnd I was teaching them how to air dry and whatnot. So yeah, this is a special little collaboration project that has been, you know, probably like five years in the making, but they do an excellent job. And then I pulled out my puff coat and was going to partake in some and it's dead. So, damn it.

2:19:25Collin PalmerCharge it up. Charge it. Charge it.

2:19:28Jenn DoeRight? Charge it. Yeah. That's torture. I'm like, yay, look, I'm pulling it out. Oh.

2:19:34BubblemanDude, that is one of the reasons why personally, this is what I think for all people, Thank you for watching.

2:20:01BubblemanI don't have any charging device, but what I had was my phone and my USB-C, my Apple charger, basically. And I just plugged it into the bottom of my Pivot and plugged it into my phone and it fucking started charging it. And I'm not going to lie, like I was like, okay, every company has to copy that. That is, I don't want to carry a fucking battery around with me to charge my shit, but my phone, I've already been brainwashed into carrying that around everywhere I go.

2:20:30BubblemanSo now I'm like, boom, I've got a charger for my unit. That's why I like this one for the mountain, because I can charge it from my phone and I definitely kill it twice. What are you showing there, Samantha? We got to get you on gallery there so we can see that. Some nice rosin?

2:20:44Jenn DoeYeah, Sam, what a great surprise.

2:20:48SpeakerHey, yes, nice to see you. This is a... Sweetgrass, Solventless, and Cape Cod Grow Lab Collab. There's Zope. And I actually went and saw Jen make some hash there a few months ago or when the heck was that?

2:21:10Jenn DoeYeah, I went out and did a class and a collaboration with Ben with their solventless amazingness. Yeah, they, I believe they just got, didn't they just get best dispensary at any can? And I think Ben actually took home first for his non-solvent as well. So Sweetgrass Dispensary over in Lee, Massachusetts State. Do amazing work. Great, great people to work with too. They were so hospitable. Me and Ben worked together so well.

2:21:40Jenn DoeI think that's the first time that I had the opportunity to work with another very well-versed hash maker. And so when we got in the lab together, we didn't rehearse how or what. I was just like, hey, you got me, I got you. And he was like, yeah. And it flowed so well. Like, so yeah, great people.

2:22:01SpeakerYeah, it was a, it was a really, it's a really cool space too. And yeah, it was really awesome. So I was glad I went out for that.

2:22:10Jenn DoeI was so happy to see you there. That was so sweet of you to come support.

2:22:15SpeakerShout out to Ben and Sweetgrass. So, and winning all these awards at NECAN. And I'm going to smoke some of their hash, some of their Zope.

2:22:28BubblemanSome Skittles. Shit is dominant with anything you cross it with. Is that what it is? Zope? Is it a Z cross? I would be surprised if it wasn't.

2:22:40SpeakerYou know what it is, Zach?

2:22:43BubblemanIt has to be.

2:22:44SpeakerSkittles cross. I don't know. It doesn't say it on here. I should know, but I don't.

2:22:52Collin PalmerIt's really nice, Marcus. I've grown it.

2:22:56BubblemanDude, like I said, I love the smell. I love the flavor and the taste. That being said, okay, I got to shout out Third Eye Organics because this fucking guy puts under my nose at the jar check, he puts this hash under my nose. He's like, what do you think this is? I'm like... My jaw's on the floor. I can absolutely smell 100% sweet skunk. It was so, so incredibly delicious.

2:23:22BubblemanLet me take a dab of it, which I was very, very happy about because smelling that without dabbing it would have hurt my soul. But it was probably the best dab I had at Spanibus. Period. Third Eye Organics. Shout out to you, homie, from Los Angeles. You got that flavor profile.

2:23:41Etienne FontanI love that. So, Matthew, you're going to proxy?

2:23:46SpeakerUsing a proxy.

2:23:47Etienne FontanI used, yeah, I want to thank Puffco. They gave me one of those and I actually had another. So I actually did carry a little battery with me because when I would sesh, I would literally, once it would turn off or go red, I would just plug it into my little charger, put it in my backpack, and then use my second until it did the same and was able to keep that in a serious little rotation.

2:24:11Etienne FontanSo happy little portable charger.

2:24:14BubblemanAnd Chad just coming up with solutions.

2:24:17Collin PalmerThis is going back to them. So Puffco, if you hear me.

2:24:22Jenn DoeIf someone can put in a good word for me with Jolly Roger, I've bought so many Puffco products, but I end up working with certain patients that I always end up donating whatever Puffco product that I have for them because typically they're cancer patients that don't have a lot of experience with anything.

2:24:41BubblemanI can link you up with Puffco pretty good.

2:24:44Jenn DoeI would love that. I've bought so many pieces and I just, you know, I want to be one on their list to get all the cool shit because, yeah.

2:24:56Collin PalmerYeah. I think we all hear that.

2:25:00BubblemanI just got this terracotta pipe from them. You guys seen the terracotta Sherlock?

2:25:05Etienne FontanI used the rubber one. That's great. Resin doesn't stick to it. Cleans off real quick and easy. Wipes down. I mean... Yeah. In Austria, you could only get maximum 70% alcohol in the pharmacies, where in Spain you can get 96%. That'll, you know, be careful. That's your little strip paint.

2:25:26Jenn DoeYeah, I got the proxy and I was so excited about it, but then I ended up giving that one to my dad because he really enjoys the hash and being able to, you know, partake in especially my hash because he watches me You know, kind of do this. And so, yeah, he he was the recipient of my proxy and I just haven't had it in my budget to replace that or any of the others.

2:25:51BubblemanI just sent one to my skunkle in Manitoba, my old school skunkle that's like the hardcore puffer that was my first family member to ever like visit me at the mall while I was working. I was probably 16 and like buy me lunch and then slide over like in an A&W napkin like a nug. And to me, that was like the greatest gift. Thank you for watching.

2:26:42BubblemanHe's good people. He's like a hermit. He lives in a cabin in the White Shell in Manitoba. And he just fishes and like goes and he doesn't hunt anymore. But he like he shoots with a camera now. So he's always sending me pictures of like wolves and foxes, silver-tailed foxes and just cool, cool animals that he sees when he's out in nature. So shout out to Skunkle Geo.

2:27:05BubblemanAnd thanks for Jendo inspiring me. Because yes, I often do as well give away a lot of These devices that I get because it's like, well, you only need really one to do well. Okay. ATN, you only need really two so that you got one charging and one in your mouth at all times because ATN is fucking hardcore.

2:27:29SpeakerYep.

2:27:30Etienne FontanWe're visiting people at La Crema, Gracia, and everybody wants to smoke hash. And they, you know, here's her. And, you know, I didn't have a torch. She wanted to be respectful. You know, it works. Got everybody high.

2:27:42BubblemanIt was so nice to not bring, like, this was probably the first trip of my life that I didn't bring like a mothership, a torch, just everything, you know, just all of this responsibility. Plus like a camera and a macro lens and a 4K video camera and a tripod and another tripod. And it's just like... It's just too much to carry and so I went way light this time and all I needed was three tools.

2:28:06BubblemanI literally had these three tools and basically was able to off pretty much anywhere I went and not share. Yeah, not share.

2:28:18Jenn DoeI heard everybody was coming home with COVID.

2:28:22Etienne FontanCOVID, eh?

2:28:24Jenn DoeAlso, on another note, so when I had given mine to my dad, he's got really bad arthritis. So, like, these are such great devices for even just that, you know?

2:28:34Collin PalmerYeah. My dad used to use it for his Parkinson's. It was his puffer. That's what he used to call it. Give me my puffer.

2:28:42BubblemanThat's awesome. Shout out to Colin's dad.

2:28:46Jenn DoeYeah. Yeah, my dad used to, every... With the exception of one grow, every single grow that I've set up, I've brought my dad out to help me with the electrical. He's an electrician. That's why I got into being an electrician when I was younger, which is what sort of got me into all these gardens to be able to wire those up. So the basic stuff I can do, but like if I needed to pull a new main line or like 100 amps from the main panel out to 100 feet away or whatever, I would have my dad come out and he would just direct me and boss me around on the big stuff.

2:29:26Jenn DoeYeah, so it's been a lot of fun to kind of share all this stuff with my dad. So he gets really excited when he gets to smoke my hash because he's had a big part in such just a little part that I mean, electrical, you don't have that electrical lined out.

2:29:39Etienne FontanRight? Are you saying he keeps you grounded?

2:29:42Jenn DoeHe keeps me grounded. Yes, it keeps me alive. Any of the smaller jobs, I can always just FaceTime him and send him pictures if I had any questions, you know. That big stuff, man. You don't want to be playing with 100 amps of live juice coming out of a panel and drop it into another panel. That's one of those. I do recommend don't follow my lead. Go call an electrician.

2:30:10Jenn DoeI actually was an electrician, which is the only reason I can do that, but I do not condone that for anybody out there listening right now that's like, well, Jen can do it. We can't. No, please don't.

2:30:21BubblemanMany a grow have burned. Many a grow have burned. What happened? What happened? We don't know.

2:30:27Jenn DoeYeah, so before anybody does that, I want you to go look for the wire stretcher first, because that is like a very important piece of equipment.

2:30:41BubblemanOh, shit. Yeah, we don't. They say we don't know. Oh, was we don't know bonded? Do you know?

2:30:51JacobAround here, it's always been, oh, I think a bear got into the room, you know, back in the day when they were in the forest. Yeah, a bear broke in. Okay. Blaming the bears, eh? Right. Usually a pissed off neighbor that's had enough of it.

2:31:09Collin PalmerBunny's got it. Yeah, no, electrical is like the number one, man. That's like, you got to be so tight on that. Otherwise, it's just all up in flames. Yeah. Yeah, and subpanel and work is no joke, like you said. Yeah.

2:31:26Jenn DoeHonestly, if I wouldn't have already had that skill under my belt, I would have had a very hard time doing everything that I've done because that's the one thing that like I knew that I could do. Everything. Like if I would have had to call an electrician in for all of that, like there were times where I was working off of such a small budget that, you know, there was just no option of calling electrician.

2:31:52Jenn DoeSo just having that skill really saved my ass so many times. And then having my dad, like I said, being able to help me with these larger products that, that I wasn't comfortable with, um, Yeah, like shout out to the electricians out there because they are like the one component that will make or break you, literally.

2:32:15Collin Palmer100%, man. I felt that in New York in the early days and we did everything in our power to do it all ourselves within the budget that we had. And we're lucky to have a few people on the team that know, you know, know their stuff, so. Yeah, it could have been three to four times the cost, you know, what the kind of electrical work we did.

2:32:39Collin PalmerSo, you know, it's, it's no joke. Yeah. Three phase powers. No joke. Once you get into that, like could be 40 grand.

2:32:47Jenn DoeYeah. And anybody that has any complaints about that three to four times the cost, let's keep in mind, they're literally putting their life on the line to get All of your stuff done. You know, my dad's had a couple of situations that, you know, over all of his years because he was a he was a journeyman. But like he's gotten caught up on a wire or two that almost took him out.

2:33:14Jenn DoeLike it's, I remember my boss back in the day before we had to work on like the big transformers and whatnot, he would hand me a two by four and he would tell me if I get caught up on this, you have to hit me as hard as you can with this two by four. Don't touch me, but just swing it. You know? And I was just like, is this possible?

2:33:34Jenn DoeLike this is scary as shit. But yeah, so respect their prices because they are the difference between burning your house down or succeeding, you know?

2:33:47Etienne FontanThat's right. And shout out to the ones who can keep their lips closed and the ones that we've used for decades behind the scenes because they could keep their lips closed. So a major shout out and a tip of the hat to those underground legal electricians who have made all of our lives possible.

2:34:07Jenn DoeThat means a small additional fee to be quiet. I'll pay it. Like pay it and be grateful that you have that option.

2:34:15Collin Palmer100%. Yeah. You know, like there's levels to electrical work. The stuff that I had to rip out to replace, you would have been like, what?

2:34:28Jenn DoeOh, yeah. I did some remodels on some Victorian houses and whatnot. And my favorite part was like the demolition and like ripping down the walls. But like, some of the shit I would come across, I was just like, how? Like, how did they even have this, like, not burned down already?

2:34:45Collin PalmerHumans, you know? Yeah. But yeah. Craig, how's it going for you guys out there? I'm curious to see how the, you know, the deep, the falling of the land's going and how's spring looking for you guys?

2:35:07JacobYeah, it's pretty amazing. Just a little bit of my set and setting here today. My daughter is an artist and she's part of a A paintout group on Sundays. So they're all, I don't know if you can see them way down the road there though, but they're all painting this beautiful scene. But this beautiful scene kind of has a lot to do with what we talked about last week.

2:35:28JacobAnd Cannafest happens right on the other side of this. So right over there is where Cannafest happens. So you're staying in this beautiful waterfront space and the music and all the libations is happening right here on the Eureka waterfront in Humboldt County. So this is, this is a beautiful spot to hang out and, and share community with friends. But yeah, as to our farm, you know, this week we're going to see our first like 70, maybe touch 80 degrees.

2:36:02JacobSo our cover crops are going to go from like six inches to like 12, 14, 18 in a second. And, um,

2:36:12JacobWe're going to be letting those go till they almost flower and then we'll terminate those, you know, with our ski tech as we've talked about. And normally I would have started my seeds already. But I am, I push that back just a little bit. I'm going half of moon cycle or one moon cycle back. I'm going to go for, I think it's third or fourth of April.

2:36:35JacobSo I don't have to work off the 12 foot ladder come harvest time and I can work off the The six foot ladder and that I'm also buying a little time because as some of you know from last week, I'm six weeks post hernia operation. So in another two weeks from now, I'll be a little bit more ready to hit the ground running and start grinding away.

2:37:00JacobBut you know how it is when you get those seeds soaked, the fuse is lit. And the excitement happens like everyone at this time of year is like, it's going to be a good year. And you've got all those packs laid out on the kitchen table and you think you're going to grab some more. And you're just you're like, you know, this little seed attic where you're like, oh, what's in this?

2:37:22JacobWhat is going to come of this? And you just got to have some self-control like as it is. We do, you know, 14 to 16 different flavors on our little farm for market. And then we'll maybe throw in like another four or five in there just for little testers. But yeah, and you know, you've got really good friends reaching out saying, oh, I've got this for you.

2:37:47JacobAnd it's so hard. It's really hard.

2:37:50BubblemanDude, you know the White Thorn Rose, bro.

2:37:53Collin PalmerYeah, you got to get that going, Craig, man. That's number one. I'll call fly out just for that.

2:38:03JacobYeah, I'm not after the White Thorn Rose. I actually have seed of what we called the Fruit Loops, you know, from a billion years ago when Johnny was working that line and I would get, I ran a cutting of that from him like 2016 or so and we had it on the shelf at Soulful. And I'm actually, what it's called now is the Paradise Seed. Paradise Punch or, yeah, Paradise Punch.

2:38:31JacobSo that's the one I keep heckling in him. I literally, he got back from Barcelona and I was like, how are my clones looking, Johnny? How are they looking? He's like, they're still alive, thank God. So I don't know for sure if I'm going to grow that or not, but. Well, we're definitely growing it in Maryland.

2:38:51BubblemanYes, yes. We're going to get some beans for Maryland and yeah, they're excited about that. Yeah, getting those popped and getting those flavors into that state and hopefully make some nice hash with the Bubble Man brand.

2:39:09JacobYeah, that'll be amazing. That'll be amazing. And, you know, the Fruit Loop, as I'll just refer to it, because that's the name I knew, it would just put out these massive... Larfie footballs that were all Terps, like just such amazing material for for running for hash. So those of you that got those, you know, just feel blessed because it's going to be it's going to be some magic for you.

2:39:38JacobSure, for sure. Johnny's done such nice work.

2:39:42BubblemanSure. It was nice of you to invite him on to Hash Church last week. He came on. For those of you that didn't catch it, you can check out. He was walking around La Sangrada de Familia. And I guess we somehow talked about it. And then he just didn't invite. Craig was like, I'm going to invite. And so he came into the room and he talked about his farm and it was just really cool.

2:40:02BubblemanI love the organic nature of Hash Church in that way and the connectivity of our community where if we somehow start mentioning someone, you know, it's not impossible to get that someone into the room within, you know, the time that it takes to send a text.

2:40:21BubblemanPretty cool. And shout out to my wife for bringing me hot ginger tea and a monster glass of hydration water.

2:40:34BubblemanOh yeah.

2:40:35Jenn DoeThat's a good wife right there.

2:40:37BubblemanOh my goodness. By far the... At the highest level, I give her praise. The highest praise. Ooh, I'll tell you. Watch a woman birth one child. We'll have you feeling that way. Watch a woman birth three children. And my goodness, what the hell? That's why we're here to serve women. We're happy to serve. Just give us something to do. Let us find solutions. Don't take that away from us.

2:41:04BubblemanWe need to find solutions. I know it's annoying and you guys don't always want it, That's what we do. We want to serve. We want to, I think that I sure feel good when I'm in service of my wife because I'm always feeling like I don't do enough and that she does too much. And so the more that I'm serving, I'm like, okay, I'm getting closer to taking too much off of her plate and getting it down to a reasonable, still quite a fucking lot.

2:41:33Jenn DoeI love that. You need to say that just a little louder for anybody that didn't catch that.

2:41:39BubblemanOkay, it's the truth.

2:41:41Jenn DoeSome of us struggled to find that. I'm over here going, wait, so you're not supposed to give birth and then cook dinner two days later? No.

2:41:49SpeakerNo.

2:41:52Jenn DoeAs a woman who has birthed three kids, yeah, I would like someone to...

2:41:58BubblemanIt's literally like a meme, Jen. Like there's joke memes where the guy's arriving at the hospital and he's got like a whole like Tupperware thing full of dishes and his wife's been in like a terrible car accident like the day before and she's just come to consciousness and he's like, oh, hey, sweetie. It's terrible. It's definitely not the right way to do it.

2:42:19Jenn DoeAs embarrassing as this is, yeah, I am that meme. It's like, no, I'm sorry. I didn't get your laundry. I was busy being in labor.

2:42:28BubblemanMy goodness. My goodness. Well, we owe women.

2:42:34Jenn DoeThat's the reason I'm single still. Happily so.

2:42:38BubblemanRight. Yeah, I can't imagine. I've been with my wife for 36 years, 30 years this year married, but 36 years together, which people are always like, what? How old are you? I'm 38. We've been together since we were two years old. No, I'm joking. I'm 52 in eight days. In eight days, I'll turn 52. That should be fun.

2:43:01Jenn DoeWait, eight days. When is your birthday date?

2:43:04BubblemanThe 31st of March.

2:43:06Jenn DoeOh, shit. I didn't realize we were so close. Mine's on April 7th.

2:43:11BubblemanYes, we are Aries.

2:43:13Jenn DoeYes, we are. I also have two of my daughters are also very much so Aries. My Middle daughter just turned 24 last week and my youngest daughter turned 16 on Monday.

2:43:26BubblemanWow. Congratulations to both of them for those milestones. My daughter will be 24 on April 13th. And my son just turned 21 on September 15th. And my other son just turned 10 on August 27th, the day that I decided to think I could skateboard at the Whistler Skate Park and broke my clavicle.

2:43:49SpeakerOh, yeah, that sucked.

2:43:53Jenn DoeYeah, I didn't realize our kids were so close to my I'm a little I'm a little ahead of you. My oldest daughter is 26. And she's already given me two beautiful grandbabies. So my grandson's birthday is holy shit, you have the same birthday. I think his is also the 31st.

2:44:16BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

2:44:36BubblemanYeah, I can't remember. I think, yeah, my daughter Trinity was 13 days after her due date. And I do, like, man, I'll tell you, there is some exponential thing when women get to nine months and they're big. But to keep going, like, just like every two days, it's like this, like, it's insane.

2:44:56Jenn DoeYeah.

2:44:57BubblemanI don't know how you guys do it.

2:44:58Jenn DoeI joked that I was going to jump on the trampoline if any of my kids were late. Thankfully, they all came pretty on time.

2:45:05BubblemanAnd I'm telling you, crazy, crazy. Shout out to women who have birthed all life on earth since the beginning of time. Pretty cool.

2:45:16Jenn DoeYou could say that.

2:45:19BubblemanI just did. And I meant it. It's pretty wild. I mean, when you think of the part of the job that we got, it is not quite the same. That's why we love to serve.

2:45:35JacobOut of everyone's children, who's carrying on the family business? Like, locally, things have been challenging with legalization for a lot of folks that the children are like, I don't want nothing to do with that. I can make more money doing so many other things.

2:45:53Jenn DoeYeah, neither of my older two ever had any interest. They kind of, like a lot of their upbringing started in Utah. And so they had to go through the DARE program. My ex-husband had some drug issues throughout his whole life. And so they I was always very open with them about the cannabis, but we kind of hid the rest of his the rest of his issues. And so They kind of associated, you know, his downfall on those things with cannabis.

2:46:26Jenn DoeSo they never really had any interest in it whatsoever. But my youngest daughter, little Bree, she very much so is interested in the family business. So Hopefully and I've explained to her I was like I would like you to have a better foot in than I did you know like if that is a direction that you want to go um I'll encourage it I won't push it you know if you want to do anything else I support everything I was like but if this is something that you're really interested in um there's different things that we can do as far as schooling to make sure that we are you know focusing on different like Like agricultural classes or, you know, even just like business management.

2:47:11Jenn DoeSo I'm like, you know, I know you're, she's still young, so she can take any direction of it. But if she wants to be in cannabis whatsoever, it'll be really neat to be able to help structure that, um, and her learning around like the direction that she wants to go in it. So, yeah, so hopefully she's the one that'll carry the torch for me. So.

2:47:32BubblemanWell, my eldest is now working at a dispensary and certainly involved in cannabis. She's just down the street in Horseshoe Bay at the Happy Isle Dispensary owned by my buddy David that I snowboard with on Whistler often, usually on Saturdays when our kids are in ski school. So I would have never guessed that she and she's really her focus is definitely more right now with acting and dancing and like she just likes to perform and entertain.

2:47:59BubblemanShe has literally Since she was three years old when we were in our local village at the town hall, we have these little talent shows for the kids and the kids can all sign up. And she just on a whim at three years old decides that her and her little friend Asia are going to perform a song that they had not yet written called Friends Forever. And she went up at three years old and just made this song up and it was quite hilarious and kind of mind blowing.

2:48:25BubblemanAnd so that was the beginning of it. Thank you so much for joining us.

2:48:52BubblemanAnd into his, you know, building his physique and eating healthy, organic vegetarian food. And that's sort of his focus. But my youngest one, who's 10, he's the one that definitely makes comments that my others never made at a younger age that lead me to believe that he may have some form of interest in the business. And it's generally like he'll come into my office and he'll be like, oh, what's that, dad?

2:49:19BubblemanThat smells really good. And I'll just be like, that's a pretty trippy thing for like a 10-year-old kid to say. It'll just be like a freshly opened jar. I have a pretty good, it's not like I hot box my office and he's walking into like clouds of vapor. It's the smell of the hashes and the rosin of the jars being opened. And he'll often ask me like, oh, can I, you know, can I smell that one or that one?

2:49:42BubblemanI'll be like, yeah, you can smell it, no problem. It's interesting at 10 years of age to like the flavor profile because I don't remember anything Even acknowledging it. I mean, I've told this story before. I only learned about the word hashish because I somehow my inquisitive mind one day took apart one of my toys and pulled this like little whatever nine volt battery out of the back of it.

2:50:04BubblemanIt was a big brick. And I started playing around with the wires that were coming off of the positive and the negative. And when I figured out when I held them to a piece of metal, I could conduct heat and turn it orange. And so I started doing it to the pieces of metal that I could find that were the most accessible, which were safety pins. So I burnt like 20 safety pins in my closet at 11 years old.

2:50:26BubblemanAnd when my parents found them, they sat me down and they were like, Marcus, We know that you're smoking hashish. And this was my introduction to hashish. This was my introduction to ever hearing the word or having any understanding whatsoever. Now, albeit at the end of that, I still had no understanding of what hashish was. I just knew you could smoke it off of pins and that you would inhale it into your lungs.

2:50:53BubblemanAnd that was just the things that my parents, now think of how crazily impossible parenting is. Do you think my Joe Strady parents who worked for the police and the fire department, my dad was the chief of the fire department, do you think they wanted me to go on and be the hash guy and teach people all around the world how to make hash? Yet they did it inadvertently through misunderstanding and fear.

2:51:16BubblemanThey turned me on to hash. So be careful out there, people that are raising your children, because the very things that you fear your children may get into You may be the one who opens the door. Thanks, mom and dad. Appreciate you.

2:51:32Jenn DoeSo it's interesting that it's the smells that caught your youngest son because same with my youngest daughter. Matter of fact, just to bring up Sam and love it. I had a skunk one back. It would have been 11 or 12 years ago, probably about 11 years ago, I got my hands on a skunk one. And my daughter, ever since she was young, has really enjoyed the smell.

2:52:00Jenn DoeAnd to this day, she tells me that she associates the smell of cannabis with me. And so she's like, no, I love the smell. It makes me think of you. But the one that she really leaned into was that skunk one that I had that was almost like the sweet skunk. And every jar that I opened for at least five years, she would be like, nah. And then she'd smell one, she'd go, ooh, is that the skunk?

2:52:31Jenn DoeAnd I was just like, oh my gosh. No, but yes, like she was right half the time. Like it was, but yeah, so it was the smells. My middle daughter, she used to hate the smell. Like she just associated it with negative things and was like, ew, you stink. And I was like, it's a botanical flower. No, I don't. But now in her older age, it took college for her.

2:52:56Jenn DoeSo she went to college and realized, uh, You know, how many of her friends were partaking and actually funny enough, how many of her friends actually knew who her mother was for her to start really appreciating cannabis. So now she's like, okay, I actually love the smell. So the association with it, you know, was completely different between the two children. So the younger one associated it with helping people and medical patients and The middle one more associated it with like addiction and like trauma.

2:53:33Jenn DoeAnd but yeah, the sensory smells are really, I think like if you don't like the smell of weed, you're not going to want to be in the cannabis industry. You know, if you do like the smell, you're not going to want to do it.

2:53:47BubblemanYep, it's true. It's definitely that sensory, that olfactory is definitely the thing that leads us throughout our lives. It connects directly to desire. And desire is the only thing that moves people. Without desire, like telling you, people don't move.

2:54:09Jenn DoeYeah. And if we think about it, I mean, even pheromones that people put off, right? Like we're attracted to certain people primarily because of the pheromones that they put off that we don't even necessarily recognize that we are actually picking up on that.

2:54:25BubblemanTotally. It's funny. My buddy was telling me recently he's a he's a hilarious character. He's he always he says he's attracted to women that often have like like not stereotypical but real mental health problems. He ends up in these fiery relationships with women that are like they either suffer from bipolar or they're manic depressive or and I'm not just saying like Like him saying this from like the armchair, like doctors saying that, no, this is, and he's, he's dated like four or five of them in a row.

2:54:59BubblemanAnd he's always like, he's like, I think there's something that I can smell from them that I, that I, that I'm super attracted to. And it's the stories that he's told me have just been absolutely incredible. You gotta love, gotta love, love and how interesting it can be with, with different people. It's pretty, pretty wild.

2:55:18Jenn DoeWell, my science teacher let us all know from a very early age, like love is just a chemical reaction that happens in the brain. And once those chemicals stop producing the way they do for that bonding to happen, that's where a lot of people end up falling out of love because it's that first initial high of the chemical reaction that happens in the brain because of the visual, but then also the smells, the, you know, the different things they're attracted to.

2:55:46Jenn DoeBut Yeah, so he would say love's not real. It's all just a chemical reaction.

2:55:50BubblemanBecause he's a scientist that has only gotten to a certain level of perceivable reality. And when he breaks through, he'll realize there's so much more underneath. Like, did you see the middle pyramid recently? What they discovered with LIDAR under the center pyramid? 600 meter columns that could no way on earth be built by human hands going straight into the earth under the pyramid. That's some crazy shit.

2:56:20Jenn DoeI actually just saw that the other day. Someone shared it with me because the date that they released it was actually my daughter's birthday. And I was like, what the fuck is this?

2:56:32BubblemanI thought it was fake. I was like, this is fake. I was like, this is a good fake story. And I'm like, whoa, there's like a lot of like, I don't, is this fake? Like I started tripping out a little bit thinking there's no way that this could be real. But of course, I remember when they... Doug up those bloody heads on Easter Island and they had bodies.

2:56:50BubblemanIt was like, really, guys, like you couldn't just use a shovel a little bit to see if it kept going down. But apparently, I don't know if it's real or not. It seemed my I came to the conclusion that I thought it was real. It seemed pretty interesting that we're still making discoveries in 2025. Who knows what the next ones will yield? Maybe perhaps. The history of Egypt, which has been marred in controversy, is indeed older than 6,000 years.

2:57:22Jenn DoeNow, how far back have they found that they've actually, because I know that in a lot of these old, you know, ancient civilizations, they've actually recovered like hash oil and hash that are in the tombs and stuff. Does anybody know like how far back that actually goes? Just out of curiosity.

2:57:37BubblemanI know Sam would have known. I know that. DJ, what is it? Potent Ponics just said that it was a group in Italy that posted it and it has not been confirmed with Egyptian authorities. But I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure I trust Egyptian authorities, but what a cool thing. Gotta get out to the pyramids and check it out. Maybe eat some psychedelics. That'll be the tool that I use to see if there's anything under the pyramids.

2:58:10Jenn DoeYeah, I actually have an acquaintance that runs like tours throughout like he's made it his life passion to really get into all of the Egyptian culture and history and whatnot. So if you ever do make it out to Egypt, let me know and I will connect you because he can get into some of these more private tours to where you can go into like different rooms and such and smaller groups to to not Miss any of the cool shit that normal people don't get to see.

2:58:40BubblemanWell, Grandmaster LED Thomas is saying it was fake and that his father-in-law researched it. Well, I have no idea what father-in-law research was, but it could be fake. It could be real. I have no bloody idea. I like the idea of it. And it certainly blew me away at the concept of it being possible. But I mean, the pyramids themselves are pretty impossible alone. So it's certainly that's interesting.

2:59:07SpeakerI just wanted to point out, wasn't Egypt one of the, one of the countries we were saying earlier? Yes. So, yeah, may want to look, may want to look into the laws before.

2:59:23BubblemanYeah, for real. And so here's another question for those countries. Is it in the country or is it at the border? Like I know the border is zero tolerance, but then if you go into the country, would it be the same zero tolerance? Like if you had your blood taken from inside the city when you got arrested driving a car or something, you're facing the death penalty still?

2:59:44BubblemanIs that?

2:59:46Etienne FontanVery much depending on what you're caught and what you're dealing with. Yes. Yes.

2:59:51SpeakerYeah, I don't know if I want to risk that.

2:59:54BubblemanYeah, I never knew Egypt was a country that executed people. I had no idea. Or cannabis.

3:00:04Etienne FontanYeah, well, it's a recent change in the country. And I mean, a lot of these, you have to do serious, serious, you know, drugs and serious time. But yeah, they have drug trafficking offenses that can lead to capital punishment, including cannabis in Egypt.

3:00:23BubblemanI just see a story now. Britain faces death penalty in Egypt after conviction for drug smuggling. He got caught with three tons of... A flower. It's like, man, dude, it's the death penalty. He's like, listen, it's the death penalty. If I'm going to make this attempt, I'm going as big as I possibly can. I'm bringing in weight. It's like, I guess that's better than having a little piece of it stuck on your shorts from the night before when you were in Thailand.

3:00:50JacobTodd McCormick doesn't have a story about this. You would think he's tried.

3:00:57BubblemanMan. I'm telling you.

3:01:01Collin PalmerI was just looking at the UAE because I was wondering if that was a no-fly zone. It seems like it is.

3:01:08BubblemanI couldn't believe that my friend flew through there recently, Colin. And he didn't know at all. I was just like, and he was leaving Thailand to go there before he came to Barcelona. So he was going Thailand, UAE, Barcelona. I was just like, dude. And this guy puffs tough. Like so tough, like chronically from morning, noon till night. Definitely has the highest amounts in his bloodstream that you could have.

3:01:37BubblemanAnd his layover in UAE wasn't just like two hours on a plane. He had like a day, I think, to get out of the airport. I know, Etienne, I'm telling you. Those facial expressions are classic. Absolutely mental. You know, I've asked Bingo Lombardi this question about 10 times. I still don't know if we've got the number for Ben, the guy who won the contest. Unbelievable. I've got to figure this out.

3:02:04Jenn DoeI was just going to say, is that Ben Inya?

3:02:08BubblemanYeah, Ben Inya. And Ryan making the jokes. He's like, don't you know who's Ben Inya, bubble man? I'm like, I might.

3:02:20BubblemanYeah, I can't see, Bingo. I'm sorry, dude. If you could reply to that question again, that would be amazing. I just want to make sure I've got this guy's contact so I don't end the show.

3:02:28SpeakerYou know that Ben, like, when he registered that email account, he was like, one day this is going to pay off. Right? Today it paid off big for him.

3:02:38BubblemanIt really did. Oh, he Discord messaged me. Okay, well, I'll check out. Congratulations, Ben.

3:02:44Etienne FontanYep, March 23, 2025, the day Ben Inya arrived.

3:02:50BubblemanTruth, truth. Let's see. I got a couple. Oh, there he is. There's Ben. Hey, brother. Let me hear, Addy.

3:03:04BubblemanAwesome. I'm in touch with Ben. How good is that?

3:03:07SpeakerAre you sure that it's the real Ben Inya?

3:03:09BubblemanWell, it is. It is absolutely the real Ben Inya.

3:03:13Etienne FontanSo you're Inya. I'm not going in there. Come on.

3:03:17BubblemanDon't do it. Don't do it. You 11-year-old boy, you.

3:03:23Collin PalmerAnd Enya. That's kind of what it comes off as to me.

3:03:27JacobI'm feeling it.

3:03:28BubblemanThe right one. Big Enya fan. Big Enya fan there, Colin. Sail away, everyone.

3:03:32Etienne FontanAnd must be in it.

3:03:42BubblemanThat's awesome.

3:03:44JacobHey, y'all. I've got to jump. I'm getting weighed down. The paint out is wrapping up.

3:03:50BubblemanDude, look at how the day has changed for you. Just say a few more words. I've got you now on speaker so we can see the sky.

3:03:58JacobLet me stand here for a minute. But yeah, this is it. We'll get foggy mornings and it just turns into this full bliss here on the Eureka waterfront in Humboldt County. So we're on this little space called Woodley Island and it's this little sleepy marina. That is between the Samoa Peninsula and Eureka.

3:04:24BubblemanIt's just gorgeous. Awesome, dude. No, it's so beautiful, man.

3:04:27JacobAnd like I said, Cannafest happens right over there. And it's just a super amazing event. So any of you that haven't been here, like we have got a little airport you can fly in to right into Arcata. That's like 15 minutes from here. And you could fly there from San Francisco, Los Angeles, and I even think Seattle. So you guys all please come out and hang out with us for Candy Fest.

3:04:53JacobIt's a good time.

3:04:54BubblemanWhat's the date on that?

3:04:57JacobThat I don't remember. It's a fallish event though. And fall on the north coast here in California, we get offshore winds. So it gets really, really warm. And often we don't even get the morning fog because we're starting with morning offshore winds. And that's when our surf really fires too.

3:05:18SpeakerIt's beautiful up there. Even a drive, like flying in is cool. But I mean, even if you have to drive in, it's beautiful from every which way you come.

3:05:26JacobYeah, exactly. Flying in from, flying to Oakland, SFO, or even Santa Rosa. And you're going to go, you get to cross the Golden Gate. And then you get, you know, vineyards and redwoods and rivers. And it's truly an amazing drive. So first weekend of August, Potent Ponics is saying. Oh, good job. Thank you for that. Yes.

3:05:54Etienne FontanAbsolutely.

3:05:56BubblemanWell, thanks for coming out, dude. Really always appreciate you spending some time with us. And maybe next time we can see your daughter's paintings.

3:06:04JacobYeah, well, we'll see if we get that far. Awesome. But that sounds great. We appreciate you all. Thank you, Marcus, for holding this platform and helping us share our voices from all over the world and bringing us together on a Sunday morning.

3:06:18BubblemanCouldn't ask for much more. Thank you all. Beautiful, Craig. We got another 55 minutes of Hash Church that we're going to blast through here. Yeah, what else, what else, what else? So many things going on at all times. I guess Spanibus being over, that's kind of a big end of an era kind of scene. And yeah, that Cannafest sounds pretty cool. I've never really... I've been down that way, so hopefully August is potentially when I can get my waiver, if I'm sure I will be able to get it as I'm not breaking any laws or being a risk to the US in any way or whatever they say, being a threat to the US.

3:07:00BubblemanI certainly don't think I'm much of a threat, so I am looking forward to going down to the US for the first time in almost 30 years. That was the last time I was down there.

3:07:12SpeakerIf you drive down and you come down the 5 right before Grants Pass, there's a road, I don't know the number, but it cuts across to Crescent City, California, which is like right on the coast, right above Eureka, Arcata area. And that last section of crazy gully is just incredible. It's like a beautiful drive down there. All those sand dunes.

3:07:35Collin PalmerYou know? Remember when I was up there in Bellingham, I called you and we were like, it feels like I'm close to you, Marcus. And you're like, yeah, man, I could like take a boat literally down to you guys. I think that should happen. We should meet up at Scotty's spot. Do a sesh there. Mothership class.

3:07:56Bryan Best Friend FarmsI'd meet up out there. Check Cannafest. Group up and go out.

3:08:02Collin PalmerYeah. No, I'd love to go to Cannafest. That sounds incredible. I love that flight up there.

3:08:08Bryan Best Friend FarmsI used to live out there for actually 11 years just about or just over and was up in the Emerald Triangle, Southern Humboldt mostly, Trinity for a year. I spent a lot of time Arcata, Eureka. They got a great seafood spot right behind where Craig was out there.

3:08:26Bubblemanused to go dude so you're the guide you're gonna meet us there if we go you're gonna be the guide yeah dude i want to see california with you bro fucking a that's what i'd love go right into san francisco and just drive up is the word like just smoking your pietella the whole way

3:08:42Bryan Best Friend FarmsLet's go. Let's go show you some nice spots on the way up. We can go hug some redwood trees. I think that's what brought me out there when I first went was it was the redwoods was like went up and literally hugged the redwoods and cried. And I watched some of my friends come out, do the same thing, come up, touch the tree and have tears in their eyes.

3:09:02Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd that was I felt like it was like an Ewok forest, you know, like Star Wars-y, Small by nature, literally. So that kind of was what pulled me and a lot of it was the Redwoods. So you got to go see those. It'd be great.

3:09:16Jenn DoeYeah, that is so powerful up there. Like, you can literally just feel it. Like, I think that I had tears as well because when, for anybody that hasn't been there, when he says he hugged the tree, no, you're hugging this much of a tree that's this fucking big and just like the immensity of it and just thinking about how old and the history they hold and Oh my God.

3:09:40Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah. You're like, you feel small in a, in a good way. Like the good universal earthly reminder, you know, but also.

3:09:50BubblemanDude, we could do a jar check right at those trees, man. We could do the Redwood jar check.

3:09:56Jenn DoeIt would be so cool. So, you know, the one that you can drive through, right? So they've got one that has a tunnel with the roots that come down and you can actually drive a car through it. We could rent that out for the jar check and just like set up a little light in there and a table in that like right beneath this giant tree.

3:10:16Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, that's where Kevin Jodry, or that's where, oh, what is it? Ganjie folks or folks in there, I think. It's got a name. It's got a name.

3:10:27BubblemanThere it is. I'm talking about the tree. The tree's name is the chandelier tree, the one that you can drive through, the redwood.

3:10:38Jenn DoeI didn't know that. I always just called it the tree you can drive through.

3:10:42BubblemanIt's the one, it's in Leggett, California.

3:10:46Jenn DoeI think so. It's been a while since I've been there. They also have like the giant Sasquatch sign.

3:10:53SpeakerOh, yeah.

3:10:54Jenn DoeTalking about the Sasquatch sign.

3:10:57SpeakerThere's a really, a few really nice, beautiful groves. It's so worth just taking the drive and getting lost up there. I mean, even up in the hills, there's just so much, there's so much incredibly beautiful stuff up there.

3:11:09BubblemanAre you coming on the tour, Ryan? Yep. Yeah. I'd like to. Let's get a good. Jar check. Jar check with Bubble Man, Chimera, Best Friend Farms, cruising through California. ATN's like, I'm on that fucking tour. What are you talking about, dude?

3:11:24Jenn DoeNo, wait.

3:11:25BubblemanWe're all on that tour. We'll get a bus. Yeah, we need to get a bus, an RV.

3:11:30Etienne FontanActually, a friend of mine has Emerald Tours, so he actually has tour buses for us to roll and smoke in. Oh, wow.

3:11:36BubblemanOh, shit, it's all coming together.

3:11:38SpeakerIf you drive from Oregon, there's a big sign that says Sweet Cron, and it looks like it's supposed to say sweet corn, Ciara, and like everybody knows that fucking sign. I'm surprised nobody made that a brand because it's hilarious.

3:11:56BubblemanSeriously. Dude, so many good folks in Oregon, like that whole, the Snodgrass family, Marcel Braun, Glassblower, another great Glassblower that I would definitely want to stop in on if I made a tour down through Oregon. So many places to be, so little time.

3:12:12SpeakerIt would take months. To do it right, it would take months. There's so much to see along the way.

3:12:19Jenn DoeI think we'll need more of a caravan as opposed to just like one van. We're going to need to like caravan because everybody that we see on the way is going to want to hop right on with us.

3:12:28SpeakerYeah, it'll be like hash tour. Yeah.

3:12:31Collin PalmerYeah, we'll set up a farm tour, man. We'll go check out our homies in Mendocino Grasslands, see what's up at the end.

3:12:41BubblemanWas he in Spanibus? Is he like a dready guy?

3:12:44Collin PalmerNo, Ian, I don't think was in Spanibus. He lives, I mean, his farm, I mean, Adam Dunn, he is a good friend of ours. He says it's like right on Murder Mountain. I've stayed there many times. I was like, oh, that's funny. It didn't even compute to me that we were like directly on it. And he has a beautiful farm and grows beautiful herb there. He's really talented.

3:13:06Collin PalmerHe's been doing it since 94.

3:13:08Bryan Best Friend FarmsA lot of people out there calling on that hill.

3:13:11Collin PalmerI think he's been out there since he was a kid. Him and Micah from Leaf grew up together. So if you know anyone who's those guys, they've been, you know, I got introduced to Ian through Adam, who is from Vermont and an East Coast guy. I knew him through the Soundtrap Sector 9 guys, actually. That's how I met him through the band. And we all became friends and When I was going out to California a lot, him and I became pretty close and I started going up to the farm a lot in the last five, like call it five years, I guess.

3:13:45Collin PalmerAnd they just have a really amazing property that is super inspiring. Just like the structures and The way they're growing the cannabis in general and the way that they're doing their outdoors, like their environment is just like really perfect for them. So they're just so blessed and their resin's amazing. I've been giving them actually seeds and some of my genetics to run and it's been cool seeing the success that they've found in some of those lines that I've given them.

3:14:11Collin PalmerSo they're good guys. And then we can go see Craig, you know, Craig's not too far from them, I believe. So many.

3:14:20Jenn DoeI have a big list too. When I was working with Jair for Gavita, I was the Northwest rep. So I would drive up and down from like Salinas about was like as far south as I would do. And then all the way up to the border of Canada. But yeah, like especially that spot, it is the most ideal spot to grow cannabis. It's just, it's amazing how it's supposed to be, you know.

3:14:49Collin PalmerThe resin they would give us, like we would buy all over the place, all over the state, man. And like their resin out of all, and I would buy 4,000 pounds at a time. So I saw a lot, you know what I mean? From a lot of different people. So it was their resin really showed itself. It was really cool seeing as much as we saw over the span that we were there because we got to see just lots of batches from different people and how they kind of saw it and same clones, same nurseries sometimes, you know, different farms, different locations.

3:15:20Collin PalmerThe terroir was like really struck struck me. And then their their methods and how they chose to To, you know, harvest and then obviously transport and, you know, all of it. It's not just, you know, the clones and selections, right? It's like, you know, how are they, where are they placing it on the farm? Which, where is it facing, you know, geographically in terms of, you know, just northeast, south, etc.

3:15:45Jenn DoeYeah, you find these little microclimate areas that are just settled in just right. And then even just like they're drying and curing alone. I had a conversation many years ago with somebody that we were trying to discuss like why do they have such amazing weed that comes out of there you know other than like the skill of the grower and whatnot but there always just seems to be a little something extra and I think it's like these micro climate pockets and then also being so close to the ocean and like where they're at in that vicinity because then you know as you're drawing you get like the ocean breeze coming off of there and so there is like a I think it's really interesting that that's really the thing that that happened.

3:16:40Collin PalmerThat's what, you know, being that close, that that's what happens is the dew point allows the flower to cure in such a way. And I think that's commercially I've seen more cannabis ruined. I think that's, you know, in our industry, you know, giant farms and then like, where are you going to dry that in the barn?

3:17:03Collin PalmerYeah, that is like facilities with all this technology that is still falling flat on its face. You know what I mean? So like, that's, that's where, you know, that knowledge and that or just even have the environment as you're as you're kind of you said earlier, it's really important.

3:17:21SpeakerYeah, a lot of these bigger places, like you were kind of hinting at, Colin, they're spending all this money to figure out how to like shave off five days off the drying time. And it's like, maybe you just shouldn't do that. All of that, you know, there might be a reason. And they're like, no, but we've done like all these tests. And I like I went and toured a facility and they had so much data that they were logging like every strain and every phenotype, like, you know, what it registered at moisture day four, day five, like in 12 hour increments.

3:18:01SpeakerAnd it was just like, how much are you spending logging all this? Just to shave more days off, like just keep it how it's supposed to be and make enough drying space. I don't know what to tell you.

3:18:17Collin PalmerYeah, a lot of people use moisture meters. I mean, I was guilty of this stuff too. I went super hard on like technology is going to drive me to where I needed the data and the parameters to be. But there's so much to take into consideration. Your phenotypes you're growing. The feeding schedules, the sugars. I mean, there's so much I can just go on and on. And I think every batch is slightly different.

3:18:39Collin PalmerAnd sure, data is like interesting and helpful. I do think that is definitely helpful. Data is important. But, you know, Ryan and I were having an exchange this morning. So I was asking about these seeds that I had, and he wasn't sure if they were real. And then I showed him the packs. He's like, Oh, yeah, those are real. But then we started talking about numbers. And I think what you, you know, you expressed, Ryan, correct me if I'm wrong, you know, 200 at a time or more is really what you want to be working with to really see a population.

3:19:09Collin PalmerAnd that's really hard for a lot of people to do.

3:19:12SpeakerIt's just minimums. It's just, I find most people are, well, they want to play a big grower, but they want to still spend small closet grower seed prices, seed purchases, right? And it's like, if you're going to do it right, on scale and you're going to be doing selections i mean you kind of have to throw down like you know the least i would look at ever is from somebody else's five packs right because it's just otherwise you don't get to see the the inheritance patterns popping up in that first generation so i call it pheno stumbling not pheno hunting right because at those small numbers it's kind of like you're just subject to whatever plant is in your pack Whereas if you buy 5 or 10 or 20 packs and you actually look through them, you know, you can kind of see what the range of the phenotypes that exist in that hybrid cross are, right?

3:20:07SpeakerOr at least you get a way wider look and you can start making some conclusions about how true breeding the parents are or, you know, like Marcus, like you were saying about Skittles, it's like you can actually see the variation that exists within the family line. So having done it that way when I was working at NAPRO and screening like large populations where every plant went to the laboratory, you'd clearly see the differences, right?

3:20:34SpeakerSo, or the lines where there were a few differences, right?

3:20:37Jenn DoeYeah. I think I'm a pretty talented phenostumbler.

3:20:44Jenn DoeI definitely have never worked with the kind of space to be able to pop those numbers, although I have, you know, visited spaces like that where I absolutely enjoyed it. But yeah, I, there's a lot of times where I can pull a really good something out of a 10 pack, but then there's a lot of times where even when it looks really good, I do realize that there is so much more potential that.

3:21:07SpeakerYeah, I'll definitely.

3:21:10Jenn DoeYeah.

3:21:11SpeakerI'm not saying that you won't pull something good out of a 10, but you know, if you grow from a hundred and you actually have that same eye and you have a laboratory where you're, you know, you're collecting all that data in terms of like, not only the terpene profile, but what's the terpene output of every plant, right. As well. And then you're layering on cannabinoid content too.

3:21:32SpeakerIt's like you can really get kind of down and dirty with your selections. Yeah, I mean, we do that and we only pop a pack or two, but we do all the chemo hunting as they call it. Like we have an orange photonics and we do everything in-house, like test every single phenotype like 10 times. And that's how we determine what we keep. And it's unfortunate we have to go for

3:21:57Collin PalmerI know Brian, Brian does a lot of deep feno hunting and really a lot of deep line work. And I'd like to kind of give you the stage here to kind of explain some of the things you've been working on because I've come up to your spot a bunch and I've seen the evolution from a lot of these lines like gas mask and you know even the smoothie that you've been doing it's been getting better and better and i know that you know for you you're selecting towards your environment and you know you know you have kind of a You know, middle, not, not super high tech indoor, but it's tech enough that gives you the ability to really push things, you know, and you have some power I've seen in the East Coast, so.

3:22:47Bryan Best Friend FarmsOh, thank you. That's amazing. I'm listening to here, just running back in, but like listening on when I came in and I, I love what I'm hearing about like the deeper testing and looking for the analytic side of something that I'm, You know, looking towards and interested in myself. But yeah, I'm at like a mid-scale small batch or, you know, like middle of the range there between small and large.

3:23:10Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd I'm able to test populations. But even this morning, I was telling my lady that, you know, about how it's limiting here versus the years out there. There were a little more rogue gray medical 215, but still able to test populations of my own work that were larger. I'm here. I just feel really like super grateful to find the females that I'm finding from the smaller groupings.

3:23:33Bryan Best Friend FarmsBut I think some of it lends into like the selective breeding technique that I use and I pollinate by fingertip and and I don't make huge populations of seeds. Sometimes I run the numbers up for a type, but I basically limited by space or plant count number canopy here in Maine. But it's still wonderful to do this work. And Yeah, like tracing some deeper lines back, I found some great results from actually that terroir you were just talking about with the resin.

3:24:04Bryan Best Friend FarmsI was going to speak on that where it's just drifted over from the east, from the west side rather of Southern Humboldt, which is like Panther Gap right off the ocean. And I did some breeding out there that came out great on the other side, which is the west side, Alder Point in Southern Humboldt. And they just have this great drying just after the coast comes in and dissipates the ocean air just enough, but it influences.

3:24:29Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd yeah, basically bringing some genetics back here. And I immediately tested some out into the field and then brought them in. Even the strawberry, like today that I was the strawberry smoothie band, you mentioned citrus smoothie line. Yeah, so that was out there. That was actually on the same hill as the people you're talking about. So we were neighbors probably at some point. And Jacob came in with me, you know, have hash and brought in some gear that year.

3:24:55Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd actually I isolated out. So this could kind of, I guess, like try to do it not windy here, but like explain some of the lines that I'm doing. I isolated the strawberry out of the strawberry banana tangy work from strawberry fields out there and basically stripped away the tangy sided and the stuff that went towards banana to bring in that strawberry profile that I used for the strawberry smoothie bands, even this new one.

3:25:21Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd basically Jacob's gear kind of like met mine as hash maker gear. That was about nine years ago. And as a hash maker himself kind of coming up, he brought some stuff in that was different from what I use. But I was able to like isolate profiles that were profound to me, you know, out there as a breeder and a flower person, you know. So basically I isolated came out here.

3:25:47Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd this new strawberry smoothie bands I'm kind of talking about actually leaned back towards that strawberry isolation from there and brought it back in. And yeah, just kind of love phenol selecting. Definitely would like to have more range to see some more plant numbers to do so. And I think some of the isolated breeding projects where like the non overproduction of seeds also gives me a very healthy population of seeds and a lot of maybe concentrated effort there, at least from the plant to make the healthy seeds that will live again.

3:26:21Bryan Best Friend FarmsJust a thought. So I was also going to say I love the science side and I want to look into the analytic deeper, but I also would bring up the human side that I'm applying here, which this is kind of wraps up a lot of the talk about what I would term as like the art of selection has been handed to me back in the day. And I think that it applies to the male selection, but then also the art of selection Thank you so much for joining us.

3:27:12Bryan Best Friend FarmsI love that. Like that for me is therapy also and art. And that's something that even with the analytical that I would choose and enjoy doing like hobby passion with the hand pollinations and the small, you know, batches to select from. So I like the meeting of the worlds.

3:27:29Jenn DoeI agree. I didn't realize you were out in Maine.

3:27:34Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, I was born and raised here. Yeah.

3:27:38Jenn DoeI spent five years in Maine and now you're talking about strawberries. So strawberry is my absolute favorite. I am always striving. Strawberry and banana separate and together is always something that I've sought after. So especially the strawberry, like as like a mood. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

3:28:28Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, it's not the easiest profile to isolate. Actually, it took the work just, you know, to pull off the others around it. And obviously, like, there's some deeper, Colin knows, I'm sure, a lot of strawberry profile that's pretty unique or exact. But I'd love to share some of mine with some folks here of some of my work. And I'm not very techie either. So when you start touching on like that human influence and whatnot, everything that I've always done, it's, it's, it's just that it's I'm going off of like,

3:29:15Jenn DoeMy intuition is telling me like something will draw me to a certain variety. And my middle daughter actually is living in Maine. So I do have to come up there a couple of times a year. I would absolutely love to.

3:29:29Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, love to link up, shoot a line out and haven't seen Colin up here in a minute either. So that'd be great.

3:29:36Collin PalmerAnd I need to trip, man. It's been a minute. I've been so busy, but I've been thinking about you. I got to, yeah, we got to find some time, come up. Maybe I'll come up like in the next month and see you.

3:29:46Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat'd be great. And I can move too. I can come on down. We'll just figure it out. But email's there, Jen. So like you come around or whatever ends the email, let me know. Anyone, come around to Maine, see a nice, nice spot up here and you're welcome.

3:30:00Collin PalmerIt's not speeding guys. Like it's, it's pretty cool.

3:30:04Jenn DoeI would love that. And Colin, maybe since we weren't able to meet up this last week, like I really was looking forward to, maybe we can coordinate and we can just have a little Maine powwow up there. That would be amazing.

3:30:17Collin PalmerI would love that, man. Maine's one of my, it's, I really wanted Maine to work for me, but it just wasn't in the cards. So here we are in New York.

3:30:28Bryan Best Friend FarmsWell, that's a good place to be. I can't wait to see what you got going there. Excited for you. And Maine's awesome, but Maine's also, you know, the winters are pretty long and, you know, and it's just like anywhere, the ups and downs, but different ones.

3:30:42Collin PalmerNo, but you have a, this spot is like, it looks out into... You know, it's got a vantage point and the farm, you know, you have great greenhouses and I'm putting the homestead together and it really shows. So I think, you know, for the viewers out there that don't know, Brian's got a really beautiful property. He's put a lot of work into and grows so much.

3:31:06Bryan Best Friend FarmsThank you, Colin, man. It's been, yeah, I didn't say much about it, but I was like, that's, I bought in at the right time, actually, with an owner finance. I got fortunate, I was fortunate back from Cali. I kind of struck a main connection name with the land person. I looked into an alternative route for real estate that was real Uncle Henry's in Maine, which Jen probably knows.

3:31:28Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd I met up with a realtor that ended up kind of, You know, and I dropped the name, said, oh, that person's like family to me, you know, so I got a great kind of interconnection with the land and bought it really cheap. It was a really messy clear cut, actually, that none of the neighbors wanted because in Maine, the wood is the most valuable thing. In terms of, you know, the elders and the way even today, but where, you know, mainland owners from generational, you know, through generations have valued their white pine, especially, but good hardwood.

3:31:59Bryan Best Friend FarmsSo when that got plucked, it was actually kind of a really messy job. They just stripped the wood, came in and were, We're rude about it kind of and messy. So anyway, I picked it up cheap and none of this was here. Even where you've seen the view, there was actually trees out front, you know, that were regrow or hard to see it. But it was a matter of kind of literally seeing through the trees, you know, which orientation the sun comes up in.

3:32:25Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd a lot of work to also move the water around. It was very marshy property. So that was another factor people didn't want to buy. But I had learned out in Costa Rica about building swales and swaling the water into the two ponds that I have here are kind of closed loop in essence to pull the moisture away from the grow field. So like thank you and a lot of yeah a lot of just every year kind of whatever I could come up with with this work and I'm so thankful to the plant is that's the this is literally cannabis farmstead that built itself on the back and front of cannabis you know and the love for the plant and what it gave back and it hasn't been too much but it's also been enough so keeps me working at it all the time and what I can get you know comes back in and And definitely feels wealthy either way, but yeah, a lot of work and, and not as much money, but it, but it's, it's a beautiful spot for, especially for cannabis.

3:33:25Bryan Best Friend FarmsThe orientation seems to be really good for that. And that was key.

3:33:28Collin PalmerYeah. Well, definitely shows, man, the herbs, good residents, like it's all contemporary. It's where it needs to be.

3:33:40BubblemanThank God for people like you doing the good work. I'm not going to lie. I'm telling you, going to Spain and just seeing so much incredible resin, meeting so many incredible growers. It's absolutely was a blessing. I want to shout out our sponsors again. A big shout out to Canna Nutrients. Cat is just awesome. And the whole team over there has been amazing. We actually have A special show next week that they're also sponsoring where we're going to have Justin Conway, the VP of Transformation from Canara Biotech, which is a company on the East Coast here in Canada, not quite the East Coast, but in Quebec.

3:34:21BubblemanAnd Issam Ben Moussa, a PhD, he's VP of Production Experimentation at Canara Biotech. And Canara is a company that I dealt with here in Canada when I started doing the hash hits and the pure hash joints. Uh, under the company Embark and we were getting, you know, we were buying biomass from a variety of people, but the, and, and there's very specific biomass required when you're creating hash products out of dry sift.

3:34:47BubblemanIt's not an easy product. Most people's dry sift is utterly and completely just garbage. I E the material you use to make the dry sift. And Canera was really one of the first companies that we started getting dry sift from that was a larger company that was able to grow a lot of biomass. And they were able to produce a really nice flower and trim for us that we were able to make really nice hash.

3:35:14BubblemanSo those guys are going to be coming on next week. We're going to have a big conversation with them. I'm hoping Ryan Lee is going to be around for that conversation as well as Dr. Mark. It'll probably go pretty deep into the scientific realms. So shout out to them. And then I also wanted to shout out Puffco for always lacing us up, taking care of everyone. I'm sure you're going to be sorted out, Colin.

3:35:39BubblemanDon't worry about it. Yes, Jen, I'll introduce you to the good team at Puffco as well. They're super supporters of Hash Church. They always have been. And we're just happy that To have them as a sponsor. So shout out to them and shout out to bubble bags. When you need to turn those heads, get those heads off of that plant matter. The bags will do the job for you if you let them.

3:36:01BubblemanI always told people don't buy these bags if you're going to put them under your bed and never use them. Because I had one guy tell me that early on when I was selling them in the early late 90s to early 2000s. And Some guy was online going, those biggest waste of money I ever, and I was like, well, what was a waste of money? And then he literally was like, well, I threw them under my bed and I just never used them.

3:36:24BubblemanAnd I'm like, okay, so you're the reason why those bags were such a waste of money. So yeah, they're only worthwhile if you're actually going to use them. I know most of the people on this panel have definitely used them or a type of bag somewhat like them. And that's what sort of connects us, this hash making. I was not a hash maker. I fiddled. With dry sift prior, you know, in the 90s, I fiddled with it, but I wouldn't consider myself really a hash maker until I got the bags.

3:36:55BubblemanAnd then I was obsessed with making hash as often as I could. And it became like, it really did become a full blown obsession. Thank God I don't have to make it quite as much anymore because it is quite laborious, especially when you're running like 40 to 80,000 fresh frozen grams at a time. And you gotta make sure that your freeze dryers aren't gonna bottleneck you. And maybe one out of, no one in a somewhat commercial hash producing, I say commercial, it doesn't have to be huge, but I see the main problem with hash making Thanks for watching.

3:37:56BubblemanThank you so much for joining us today. We're going to get started in about a minute.

3:38:27BubblemanI think that from a commercial standpoint, when you're drying, you know, five kilos a day or something, it does come in handy to have a lyophilization oven that you have set up with proper parameters so that you're not blasting out your terpenes. You know, there's gotta be a technology out there that can be created that allows for the volatile aromatic compounds to be preserved while still reducing the moisture content of the hash Thank you so much for joining us.

3:39:24BubblemanSo the other reason. Oh, go ahead, Joe.

3:39:33Jenn DoeSorry. The other reason I was smiling right there, Marcus, is because I'm in Utah right now and Harvest Right is based out of Utah.

3:39:43Dr Mark ScialdoneReally?

3:39:44Jenn DoeYeah. So I've actually considered like seeing if I could set up a meeting with somebody in their departments to actually go have a sit down and kind of discuss some of their stuff. I did see something that they were hiring for freeze dryer techs to do the repair. So I also considered like taking one for the team to see if I could go work there for a couple months to learn how to not only like repair all the freeze dryers, but see if I could get to the person that I would be able to have this conversation with, you know.

3:40:18BubblemanThat would be awesome.

3:40:20Jenn DoeWhen I got to Utah, my freeze dryer had been having all of these fucking problems from the day that I got it. And so once my freeze dryer was here in Utah, my mother actually was a damn sweetheart and took it to the Harvest Right Center and had them hands-on fix it themselves. But yeah, so I find it funny because I drive past it on the freeway all the time and I'm like, I need to talk to them.

3:40:44Jenn DoeLike, we got business.

3:40:47BubblemanThey definitely need to have some good consultants speak to them. Absolutely. I mean, listen, I will say this about the freeze dryers from Harvest Rite. I ran hundreds of kilos of hash through those Harvest Rite freeze dryers and people enjoyed it. It was enjoyable, Ash. Could they do better? Absolutely. And hopefully they will. I mean, keep in mind, Fletch was telling the story just a couple of weeks ago on how he started really turning them onto that 40 Fahrenheit temp shelf.

3:41:20BubblemanBefore it was like the lowest temp on that shelf was like 100 or 120 or something. So it's just like you couldn't even use it for cannabis. So at least we know they listen. They have to absolutely acknowledge the metrics of what percentage of their freeze dryers are being sold into the cannabis industry right now because it's Definitely noticeable. There's no way more people are liophilizing Skittles fucking candies than there are people liophilizing cannabis resin.

3:41:50BubblemanSo pretty insane when you think about it.

3:41:54Jenn DoeYeah, I think that their business actually got really big because Utah is obviously predominantly a Mormon state. And one of the things that the Mormons are very, very good at is their food storage and their, their preparations to make sure that, you know, if anything happens, they have all of that. So that is why Harvest Rite was established here was to help all of these Mormon families that are freeze drying for, for food storage.

3:42:22BubblemanSure. Makes sense. That's awesome. I bet you there's more of us, though.

3:42:26Jenn DoeI bet there is now. Can you imagine if I went in for a job and gave them my resume?

3:42:33BubblemanYou're like, hey, what's up? I like air drying hash.

3:42:36Jenn DoeYeah, I've fixed these numerous times.

3:42:39BubblemanOh yeah, it's more times than I can even acknowledge how many times I was on. That's why when I hear people like, I know that I must just be living, I know there's multiple realities. And for whatever reason, those can be, it's almost like depending on what you're saying, how you say it. But for me, because I talked to them so much when I was running Embark, that we were making hash five days a week consistently.

3:43:06BubblemanAnd so, you know, 40 kilos a month or whatever, it was a good amount. And we did that for a couple of years. We made some kilos for sure.

3:43:18BubblemanI never found them that difficult to deal with. It was often like you paid the 40 bucks, boom, now you're in with a technician. Most of the times I had good technicians. Eventually I met, you know, one that I liked and I would request him and wait happily. He was an older gentleman. And that was fine as well. It was always like, okay, it was simple, right?

3:43:40BubblemanThis thing's just plug and play. It just has these motherboards and these components, relay switches that you can just pull out and replace. Now, sometimes you had to replace maybe the screen or, you know, there was other things that went on it. But the majority of the components were like motherboards or relays or other such things. I lucked out personally. We maintained ours and monitored them pretty, pretty strongly.

3:44:03BubblemanAnd we never lost a batch. We never had a relay blow and heat up all of our shelving units to the point where the hash got cooked. Now I did see photos of that happening to people. And it was always a worry for me. We also never had oil pumps that polluted and contaminated in all the hash we had. One oil pump that went in and ruined a little bit of 220 and 190, which was like an eye opener to even though it was below the table, because that was another thing like putting it up on the table next to the harvest right was it was always a better idea to have it have like a foot to two feet of hose that it would have to go up directly.

3:44:43BubblemanSo we got onto the scroll pumps early when we learned that. So for the most part, harvest rights were good to me. Although the Lab Concos and some of the other units that we tried were maybe more advanced, I still found the consistency of the Harvest Rite. Now the Harvest Rites, for instance, freeze, whereas the Lab Concos do not. So you have to freeze your trays before you put them into a Lab Conco, whereas a Harvest Rite is a freezer.

3:45:12BubblemanYou get it up to minus 20 and then you put your trays in and it stays cool as well as vacuumed. So Just the simplicity for my, for the ability to Well, first of all, if you look at the market and you think, because we're all the same on this panel in the sense that we love quality and purity and we want the best. But if you look at the metrics and the numbers of who's buying cannabis, we are the minority.

3:45:38BubblemanWe are such the minority, it's not even funny. And that's why, you know, when Samantha's like, why do these companies do this, this and this? It's like, well, because they own 80% of the market. That's why they do it. Now, do they own quality and purity and awesomeness? No, they do not. But they absolutely own floor sweepings, distillate and botanical turps. And they're the number one brand in everyone's state and in everyone's country.

3:46:02BubblemanI know I shake my head at it as well. But you have to understand that like we don't listen to the customer. We try to get the customer to bend the knee to what we think is best. Whereas those companies give the customers exactly what they want, which is bunk, mediocre, well-priced, high THC products. And so that is the demon that I fight on the regular when it comes to being involved in the legal market and what I bring to the legal market.

3:46:32BubblemanBecause the majority of what I bring to the legal market Is for the minority, the minutia, the tiniest percentage of people, whereas there's, you know, for my product like hash hits, that one's a little more broad. Would I call it like a top quality? It's like, no, it's like 30%, 35% THC. It's not some bomb ass melty hash, but it's convenient. And a lot of mainstream cannabis users really like the aspect of that convenience.

3:47:04BubblemanDo I feel like I sold out on quality to make that product? No. I feel like I want to touch more people than the 1% of people that buy extracts versus, you know, if I can access a small percentage of people from the pre-rolled joint market by selling them a hash hit, which is still this oral fixation between your fingers and a lighter, well, then I'll do that.

3:47:28BubblemanYou know, and it's been a hard kind of lesson from 20 years ago being like, everyone has to smoke full melt. It's the greatest thing there is. To people being like, but I just like smoking mediocre joints out of thick paper wrapped in big swabs of glue. And I just, I've learned to somehow support that as well.

3:47:49Etienne FontanBut I like beaver turps.

3:47:51SpeakerIt's not easy.

3:47:52BubblemanYou're like, what?

3:47:53Etienne FontanI like beaver turps. Give me more beaver turps, man. Oh, fuck, the beaver turps, yes.

3:47:58BubblemanYes, yes, it's true. Ah, it's hard. It's hard.

3:48:05Jenn DoeIs that in the glue, ATN? Is that where the, I thought that was vanilla extract.

3:48:11BubblemanNo, exactly. It's the flavored botanical terpenes that he's talking about. The synthetic ones. A lot of them were from like those raspberry flavors and blackberry, vanilla and strawberry. There's like half a dozen of them that come from the whatever that thing is called in the next to the beaver's ass. Yeah, well, it's a gland. It's not actually coming out of its ass, but yeah, it's a little bit disturbing.

3:48:36BubblemanI would go with the natural phyto-produced aromatic volatiles over those particular ones, I think, I think.

3:48:45JacobYeah, absolutely.

3:48:46BubblemanWell, we got 15, 13 minutes left and I do have a hard stop at 1 p.m. PST today because I'm going to take my son up to Squamish and watch him jump on the trampoline with his friends at the Air House. So that should be fun. For any of you that are in Squamish, come see me. I'm doing a jar check while I'll be there.

3:49:09BubblemanIt's going to be bad.

3:49:10Etienne FontanIt's going to happen everywhere. You're going to be, I'm at the grocery. I'm jar checking.

3:49:13BubblemanI'll be like, I'm taking a flight to Manitoba. If you want to jump on that flight and show me your jars, then they'll be talking about the flight that got grounded from too much smell, nauseous gases that were released into the plane. I'll end up on a no fly list.

3:49:30Jenn DoeThat skunk.

3:49:31BubblemanRight? Smells like one butane thiol one.

3:49:36Jenn DoeSo I hate to cut out a whole 12 minutes early, but I definitely need to dare. So can I?

3:49:44BubblemanThanks for coming on, Jen. We appreciate your perspective and you sharing with us as always. And tons of people were saying hi to you in the chat room. I don't know if you guys followed the YouTube chat room, but it's good to do because there is, I want to say, a couple, three or four hundred people in there right now. And they're just listening to us chat about whatever we're chatting.

3:50:07BubblemanSo thank you, Jen Doe. As always, we appreciate having you and we'll talk to you soon.

3:50:13SpeakerYeah, thank you. I appreciate you guys. Let us know when you're back on this coast.

3:50:19Jenn DoeI absolutely will. I may have a couple little things in the works. So at the very least, I have a daughter that I need to go visit in Maine fairly soon. I'll be back, you know.

3:50:31BubblemanYeah, that's awesome. I got to say, I'm not ready for my children to move out of the province that I live in. I'm like, ooh, my wife would not fare well with that either. That would be like a lot of trips.

3:50:44Jenn DoeYeah, she was back here in Utah for a year after she graduated college. We all kind of came back here, but her boyfriend and all of her college friends are out there. So she actually is even deeper than we were. We were just like 45 minutes northeast of Portland. She actually lives like up like as far east as you can go. I think she's in like Lubeck area.

3:51:08Jenn DoeSo yeah, yeah. So yeah, so I'll be up to visit for sure. And I love you all. And thank you always for allowing me to participate. It's a true honor to be able to share this space with everybody. So have a wonderful, wonderful day. Anybody in the chat? I'm sorry if I don't catch you. I try and glance in there if you want to know out, but Yeah.

3:51:31Jenn DoeSo thank you.

3:51:33BubblemanCheers. Listen, guys, make sure you follow. There's a premiere on the channel right now. I can't. I think I made it for Tuesday at 420. And it's going to be David's celebration of life that we did in Amsterdam. If you want to see those few people that stood up and spoke and a little bit of chatting. I uploaded it onto my channel. I did that for the reason that if Diana wanted to or any of the daughters or the granddaughter Sienna or any of the people that were there like Soma and Chimera and Simon and Eddie or whoever, it's a great place for us to be able to come while it's premiering.

3:52:14BubblemanWe can all be in the chat room of the YouTube chat room and sort of, you know, talking about it from our perspective.

3:52:24Jenn DoeThat's beautiful. I did catch a couple clips of that and it was beautiful to hear and to see everybody standing up there, you know. So, yes. Thank you for sharing clips from your guys' journey for those of us that couldn't make it.

3:52:40BubblemanAbsolutely. And for certain, that is not a problem. I'm looking forward to next week's Hash Church, but I'm also looking forward to maybe one last puff on this week's Hash Church. Throw it on speaker or gallery so we can all be seen. And let's get our little pipas. Ooh, I think I'm going to smoke some of this. I don't know. I keep calling it Black Cherry Punch, but I don't think that's what it is.

3:53:05BubblemanBut my buddy Dan gave it to me, and it is so stinky and flavorful and beautiful. Remember when rosin first came out and the BHO guys were like, oh, you're going to blast off all the turps. You can't press rosin at that temperature. Like, it's all going to be gone. You're going to absolutely destroy it. Has anyone ever been more wrong in the history of cannabis? That's like on some DEA level wrong shit.

3:53:32BubblemanLike you were wrong, bro. I'm sorry. It tastes good. Yes, we've learned to press it at much lower temperatures, but even still, 160, 170 degrees.

3:53:45SpeakerThe tech has come a long, long way.

3:53:49BubblemanIt really has. I would agree with that, Samantha. Ooh, that's a nice fat triangle blob you got there, Brian.

3:53:59Bryan Best Friend FarmsThis is some Piatella. This is a new one. Yeah, 120 bag on this guy. And it's my G band. So GMO gas mask by my 207 headband that I can't wait to share with Colin when I see him. Super loud. One little tiny jar just, I'll show you the melt actually. So this is a cool jar because it's in, it came out really nice and almost like kicked up shine on it from just the first whipping and then into cure where it's got that shine on it.

3:54:36Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd then this is just like a little whipped up, beat up piece here for dabbing.

3:54:45BubblemanIs that a single dab on that dabber that you're going to dab?

3:54:48Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, I'm going to go at it. I'm going to go into the melt bill.

3:54:52BubblemanYou got to hit that. What temperature will you hit that on so you can dab the entire thing?

3:54:57Bryan Best Friend FarmsI have to admit, I am actually going analog on it. So I go cold start. That's how I'm doing. I hit it different.

3:55:03BubblemanThat's smart.

3:55:05Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, it's just preferable for how I'm hitting it. So I use a torch, so I go cold start, and then I just kind of ease it in. So I would actually guess, Marcus, mine are more like a 450. Might even be like 450 high, 4 to 450. Just to get the melt in, I see a little bit of vapor, and I like to even get like a lighter vapor hit off the first cold start, and then I'll just go back in with like a little tease of heat to kick it up thereafter once or twice.

3:55:35Bryan Best Friend FarmsI get my steamer on the second one. I get great turps and I avoid the char taste at all or any char. But yeah, so I kind of go in twice. The first one's the taster. The second one's the smasher.

3:55:48BubblemanThat's kind of the only way to hit a dab that size, in my opinion, because if you're hitting it too hard that you're boiling the oil too hot, it's just not going to be quite as enjoyable. So I do love the focus and the desire to get the best taste that you can possibly get from a fat dab like that.

3:56:06Bryan Best Friend FarmsDefinitely about the taste and then, you know, affect the follow.

3:56:11BubblemanYeah, cold starts. Cold starts. I mean, really, that's what a Puffco is, right? You're cold starting each time you hit it. There's definitely something to be said for... I really, what I like about cold starting with bangers is that you can heat it up Take your, you know, your first rip. You know it's going to get cooled down. You get that super flavorful rip and then it's just a matter of like, yeah, bringing it up to that temperature again.

3:56:37BubblemanA little shot of the, although I will say since I got this damn universal heater, my torch has been collecting dust. Between the universal heater and a working proper torch. Portable unit like this one.

3:56:54Bryan Best Friend FarmsI think those Puffco is actually the way they heat around and with the bucket, that bucket tech, you know, now, I think those are some of the best melt devices there are like the proxy. I had a proxy. I'm not techie. So like my proxy is sitting in the shelf up here and my peak pro. So I'll talk to Colin about if he gets results. I like I love the units when I had them working.

3:57:17Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd I would actually recommend Outward for this Piatella style that I'm doing. And, you know, the soft melt in that they clean out quite well, you know, with easy enough. And I love the way it eases the melt in, you know, on low setting, basically, and hit it a couple of times. Not too much, but a couple of times.

3:57:37Collin PalmerYou know, I think it's like it's the perfect inflection point. I remember when I was going to the Legends of Hash, the third one. I was about to pack my bags and I ended up picking the, I've told this story before, I picked the Puffco because the 3D chamber came in the mail. And I just didn't want to bring all my bangers with me. And it hit beautifully, like in a way that I was not really expecting.

3:58:02Collin PalmerAnd, you know, I love the app that they have because you can kind of tune the vapor and the way that it heats up. And I think that's really cool. Very important in terms of the different types of melt that you might have access to.

3:58:17BubblemanYeah, that's the path browser.

3:58:22Collin PalmerYeah, I really think that's really important. You know, it's like, you know, I'm just super nerdy with it all because it's, I'm really all about olfactory and the sensory, right? So that's what I'm chasing at like perfect inflection point and that fleeting moment, kind of like harmonics where it all kind of just happens for that second moment. And I think that experience, if you can pass it on to others, it's not just about the hash.

3:58:45Collin PalmerIt's sometimes also about how are you using it and at what temperature you're using it at. So, I don't know. I just get excited about that, you know, when When you're session with someone, you're like, oh, try it at this temperature though. And they're like, oh, I didn't taste that flavor. And you're like, see, because when you taste it at this particular temperature, you can't taste it because it just, you know, it's combust, you know, because all these things have different boiling points.

3:59:12BubblemanSo, you know, I'll say one thing about that group. Puffco is that they have put they have been so successful that they are really willing to put money into R&D. And I suspect the things we come down the pipeline in the next five plus years from that company. We'll be, I mean, listen, they know they're in the lead. They know they have people trying to nip at their heels the best they can.

3:59:34BubblemanSo they're inspiring a whole other range of technologies that will be coming out. But plus they're working on their own and they do truly hire the highest level, the highest caliber of people whose work relies on actual merit of what they do. That is... It shows. Like even I'm sending my piece. It can't be easy to just make something like this. Like I look at the world always blown away, you know, like I'll just look at all the buildings in Europe and all the, you know, the planes and the craziest shit that we've invented.

4:00:10BubblemanBut still, it's like, dude, I can't imagine something like this existing like 25 years ago when I was like younger, just having access to something like this. Now I just... I almost take it for granted. Roll around with it in my pocket. It's super chill. I puffed out of this the whole time I was in Barcelona and Amsterdam and then just cleaned it with a little bit of hot water and alcohol, ethanol actually, Skunk Man Sam's ethanol.

4:00:38BubblemanI cleaned it up at his house and it was as clean as a whistle and ready for travel. Hopefully one day, though, when cannabis is a little more legal worldwide, getting caught with a dirty pipe or some seeds are clearly something you're not trying to smuggle. It just shouldn't even be a fine. You know, it should definitely not be like, oh, now we're going to stamp this person with making sure we tear them apart at every border, which is what...

4:01:07BubblemanDragonfly Josh was telling me that he accidentally had got caught with some seeds coming home from an event one time and that now it's like not only him but like his kids and his like people that he's a known traveler with also get it and it's just like holy shit man I get zero tolerance but what like oh you caught me with three seeds in some package I got given I can't believe that I still have to go over how many hours of cleaning my bags before I leave Europe to make sure that if I do somehow get pulled in, which I very, very rarely do, more like one in six or seven years, that I don't accidentally have something that someone gave me.

4:01:45BubblemanAnd this time I found a piece of black Afghan hash. And I remember the guy that gave it to me said, Steve the Nose said this was the best Afghani hash he's seen in 20 years. But he gave it to me with no packaging of any sort. So I just put it in my pocket and it got stuck in my pocket and I was going through my pants and pulling all my pockets inside out and I found that piece of hash.

4:02:09BubblemanI believe I gave it to Bud Resin. He was in the chat room earlier. Not sure if he's still here. Anyway, I've broken my own rule. I've gone over my hard stop at 1 p.m. I'm an utter and complete failure. I hate to say it, but thank you everyone for coming out. Thank you, Samantha, for being a first time hash churcher and coming and sharing.

4:02:28SpeakerIt was fun.

4:02:29BubblemanYeah, coming and sharing some stories with us and letting us know what you're up to there. And of course, thank everybody else at ATN for the amazing work that you're doing now with abolishing the death penalty for cannabis. That cannot be. You got to think people that are pro the death penalty for cannabis are probably a difficult lot to talk to. They can't be the easiest group to be like, this is not the choir that ATN is dealing with.

4:02:54BubblemanIn fact, I would go out on a limb and say, It might be the furthest thing from the choir when we say preaching to the choir that you possibly could preach to. So thank you for that, ATN.

4:03:06Etienne FontanDaggers. Lots of daggers.

4:03:07BubblemanThey're just like, maybe we could catch this guy with weed in a country and execute him.

4:03:12Etienne FontanPretty much. That's the look of, oh, we could kill you. Jesus.

4:03:17SpeakerNice to meet you guys all. And yeah, I'll see you soon, hopefully.

4:03:23BubblemanYes, absolutely. Thanks, Colin. Thanks, Brian. Thanks, Ryan Lee. Thanks, Skunk Man Sam. You'll always be with us, my brother. May the full melt bless your bowl sooner than later. I would say peace out for now. See you next week. Thank you, Canna and Puffco and Bubble Bags.