Grease Bucket Rosin and THCA Hologram Innovation

0:04BubblemanWelcome, welcome, welcome everybody on this beautiful Sunday, April 27th at 9 a.m. PST for Hash Church, Season 11, Episode 16. Just going to make sure I'm going live here. It looks like I'm going live here, so we're good there. Excellent, excellent. Making sure all the audios are turned off. And there we go. Wonderful. I was having a little bit of technical difficulties. As you probably noticed, I have my Sony headphones on today instead of my little AirPods.

0:37BubblemanMy AirPods would not hook up to the Wi-Fi today, so they were really messing with me. But enough about that. Let's see what we got going on here today. Do a little mention mention of our wonderful sponsors. We'll start it off as we Have been starting it off since January 1st with a little mention of our wonderful sponsors. All right, here we go. Big, big thanks to Puffco for sponsoring Hash Church as always.

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3:25BubblemanTune into Hash Church to hear the pros rave about Grandmaster LEDs and grab yours at grandmasterleds.com. You can use Hash Church 10 at checkout for an exclusive discount. Light up your grow with the Grandmaster way because your plants deserve the best. Hash Church 10 is the discount code. Ah, yeah. So very good. Very good. I don't see anyone trying to come in here yet today. So maybe it's just me, the bubble man.

3:54BubblemanDoing my thing. I was supposed to be in Germany right now, in fact, which would have made this hash church a little bit tricky. I'm not going to lie. I was supposed to be at the Berlin ICBC event. I was supposed to be moderating a extraction panel. And unfortunately, it fell through. I had a bunch of other things on this side of the pond that needed attendance, including hash church.

4:23BubblemanYou know, we haven't missed a Hash Church, I want to say, in about 30 some odd episodes right now. We're going pretty good. We did quite a few 5.0s and 16 in a row now for season 11. So really got to give a big thank you to all of you. You know, Tara Lee, I'm sorry, there was no discount for Puffco. They have not offered a discount code as of yet, but they have been extremely generous in regards to kickdowns.

4:51BubblemanThey have given a huge amount of our audience and members free units over the years. So we got to thank them for that. And one day if it comes to be that they want to get a discount code, we will certainly provide it for you. In the meantime, they're a good group of guys to support. It's funny, I don't think I've done a hash church in a very long time where no one showed up at nine o'clock.

5:16BubblemanI guess we better get a little dab going because what gets the gab, what gets the gab going better than the dab? And I got a shout out again, the boys from Sauce Labs. They sent me a couple of nice little gifts here today. I've got the grease bucket, this one, and I've got the Purple Poison OG. And I wanted to shout out the Craft Greenery because of course they'll probably, if I'm not mistaken, be one of the first to support the sauce guys here in BC.

5:51BubblemanSo I know they're going to be picking it up. They are going to be dropping the Grease Bucket and the Sweet Exotic. So you can go check that out at Craft Greenery. You can find them at craftgreenery.ca or at craftgreenery on Instagram. And yeah, you can go support two of our past sponsors, which is the Craft Greenery and the boys from Sauce Labs as well. And I really want to thank them for the hookup.

6:21BubblemanThey've got some beautiful, beautiful, beautiful things. I have got the grease bucket right here. And you can just see it's just kind of what you want your rosin to look like. Really beautiful color. Incredible flavor profile. They also sent me one of the bubble gum. That was this one, which you can see is completely gone now. Now this bubble gum one was really, really reminiscent of old school Renee.

6:56BubblemanIt reminded me of the Renee. Now, not so much on the exhale, not at all on the exhale. In fact, the exhale had no haze to it whatsoever, but it definitely had that super Fruity flavor profile that you just can't miss. This is the Purple Poison OG.

7:17BubblemanKind of hard to get into that one, but there that one is. I think we're going to hit the bucket. I think we're going to hit the bucket. Looks like Colin's coming in for some grease bucket rips. Good timing on that, Colin. How you doing, buddy?

7:34BubblemanAre you there?

7:36Collin PalmerYeah, dude, sorry. That's okay.

7:38BubblemanI've got new headphones on today, and I wasn't a thousand percent sure that they were working because I've been in here alone for the last nine minutes all by my lonesome.

7:48Collin PalmerSo sorry. I was with my son. We were just skateboarding outside, and I just looked at it. I was like, oh, man, I'm late.

7:54BubblemanThat's so funny. Careful on that skateboard, man. My clavicle will never be the same.

8:00Collin PalmerMan, I think my body over the years will never be the same after the moment I put it through. He's in one of those, but I love it.

8:08BubblemanWell, little boys, man, it comes around full circle because, you know, the minute when I first had my son, I was just like, so you really just have no idea. Right. You know, you have a kid and you're like, you've got all these visions. When I first had my boy, I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to I'm going to play every game and we're going to have so much fun.

8:27BubblemanI'm going to teach him this, that and the other thing. And then you realize he's just going to be like kind of a blob for a couple of years. Where you're just like for two years, I was waiting. I was like, so when am I going to be able to like skateboard with them and like teach them hockey and like play catch? And it took me a long time to realize, no, don't get me wrong.

8:44BubblemanI had tons of fun with my son when he was much younger. But man, as they get older and they start doing things, it's pretty darn fun.

8:52Collin PalmerYeah, it's super cool. It's just, yeah, they light up and it's cool, man. It's, it's, and it's such a, skating's dope because it's, it's, it's creative, you know, like you have this, this thing that you're attaching to your feet through this, like through grip, you know, and then you got to figure out how to move with it. And, you know, it's, it's cool. It's, it's a neat, it's amazing.

9:16Collin PalmerIt's just, I had so much fun with it growing up. I mean,

9:19BubblemanMe too, man. You are the young man in the hat, by the way. That is forever your new nickname on Hash Church. Who is that young man in the hat?

9:26Collin PalmerIt's funny. There's a guy that I don't know who he is, but every time I go on a live, he says the same lines. And I appreciate you out there, brother.

9:35BubblemanThat's so funny, dude.

9:37Collin PalmerFor seeing me in that light.

9:39BubblemanI went for a beautiful skate yesterday on my evolved electric skateboard. It did a weird thing for the first time ever. My remote control started vibrating and then it turned the green numbers to red and I knew this isn't good. Apparently I was overheating my motors but it still worked wonderful and I just took it by myself. I went for an 18 kilometer skateboard on my electric skateboard and it was Soul feeding, I would say.

10:10BubblemanIt fed my soul in a big way. Just like this grease bucket is about to. I don't think I'm going to get that.

10:17Etienne FontanOh, look at that. I did it.

10:20BubblemanThat looks beautiful. Yeah, shout out to the Rosin Boys. The Rosin Labs. Sauce Rosin Labs. Shout out to those boys because, yeah, they're doing it up quite wonderfully. It's nice to see such a beautiful product making its way Into the Canadian marketplace, you know, it's not, it's not so packed our marketplace here with incredible quality raws and mainly because the majority of the marketplace doesn't care for it.

10:50BubblemanSo it's tough when you have a group who's willing to do all of the work for, you know, that 1% of the market. So I got mad respect for those guys.

11:03Collin PalmerYeah, that's, it's similar in New York right now. It's just not a lot of, there's a lot of people trying, but it's, inputs are an issue.

11:14BubblemanYeah, as they always are. It's not easy, right? To grow exceptional flower. You just can't do it with anything other than exceptional flower.

11:22Collin PalmerYeah. Yeah, it's, but, but it's, you know, it's, it's definitely coming along. I think the overall, we, we've, we've got a lot of, I think consumers are starting to understand why just hash is better for them and rosin is better for them.

11:42BubblemanYeah, but convenience is always king.

11:45Collin PalmerTrue. We've been working on these vape pens and they're amazing, but I just hate the idea of surrounding beautiful material with plastics and metals and You know, atomizers that heat it up.

12:04BubblemanIt's a, it's a, it's a dichotomy, you know, but to your point, I mean, it is, it's a, and I will say that prior to the peak or sorry, the, the pivot and, you know, maybe a little bit, the proxy, I have a new appreciation for the proxy now that I didn't have in the last say year. I really appreciate it as a sipper, not a ripper.

12:30BubblemanBut prior to the pivot, let's just say, there was real value in having access to vape pens for convenience during a time where you had no access to your rig or anything else. And that's why whenever people ask me what my favorite, you know, what's your favorite unit or methodology of smoking, I generally say, You know, the one that I have right now, the one that's available to me in the moment, because of course I love the mothership and the JP Toro banger with the D-Nil, you know, all that amazing stuff, the highest level.

13:05BubblemanBut do I puff like that every minute of every day? Certainly not, because, you know, there's times where I pull out my pivot or my proxy or I pull out, you know, I used to pull out the vape pens, I will say since I got my pivot, That I haven't. That was the last time that I pulled out a vape pen. That being said, just because it's not convenient for me, certainly doesn't mean that it won't be convenient for someone else.

13:36BubblemanAnd so I understand that. But there is a dichotomy and it's interesting that Wolf just came in because I can already kind of hear his voice and his, he's always got a very positive outlook on it, but he'll say it the way it is, but then kind of, You know, soften it at the end so we don't have to take the hit of like, oh, we're we're doing the wrong thing by filling disposable vape pens versus, you know, making it is really dichotomous when all we want to do is plant beautiful cannabis and outdoor environments like, you know, the mountains and Humboldt and all these beautiful places.

14:12BubblemanAnd then on the flip side, you know, you end up doing so much work to process and cold chain and, you know, only to, you know, toss it into a vape pen. So it is what it is. I myself have vape pens in them in one of my markets in the Michigan market. We have these disposable vape pens and I'm not sure. I don't know. I use it every once in a while, or I did at least before I got that pivot.

14:37SpeakerAnd I too acquired some Bubble Man Trinity tanks very early on to provide to patients dealing with lung cancers and needing to treat that. So that convenience or getting the medicine into the lungs, into the bloodstream is what we're dealing with. And You know, part of the problem of the pen and not to be too... There it is. I have a stack of the boxes. And this was preferable because it was stainless steel, had glass components, ceramic heater.

15:15SpeakerThis is why I chose this because having a non-plastic system, I mean, this was... This was the best. And so I saw value in that and my processes never, you know, you would use anything that would leach or so and not to be holier than thou, but part of the problems with the pens is the heat source is so close to the cilia and the lungs. And so The temperature being a big part of the problem for people of being too hot or too close to the fire.

15:52SpeakerAnd so, and, you know, just, just that how we get it in, you know, people dropping their dabs and you watch the turps gas off before they get the cap on, you know, that's problematic also. And so this idea of keeping it cool, low, keep the flow low and, This is all good. It's like, ultimately, I think warming the resin from below and coming up to temperature is the most gentle way for people and how close we're going to get these pens to achieve that.

16:31SpeakerI'm not sure. I'm really unfamiliar with the usage. I haven't. Thank you so much for joining us.

17:03Collin PalmerTemperature ramps and ranges before I landed on what we were using. And it's tuned specifically for our process. You know, like that's what we we've gotten really obsessive over that because it's I'm not OK with just buying a card off the shelf or an all in one off the shelf. It's it never produces the experience that than any of us really are after. So it takes that that that deep dive into it to kind of get that out of it.

17:31Collin PalmerBut You know, it's a long way to go with it all. I think the best part about what we're talking about is what Marcus really said is companies like Puffco That are providing a usable platform that is convenient for consumers to put in their pocket or their backpack. And that's the best we can do right now. I mean, the moment that that puffo came out, everyone would be like, what do you think?

17:57Collin PalmerWhat do you think? It's not a mothership. Well, yeah, it's not a mothership. It's totally different. And it brings accessibility where the mothership doesn't, you know, as Marcus said. So I think that's the beauty of it all and what I appreciate out of it. It's a great platform.

18:14BubblemanIt's an interesting conversation because you definitely, you know, obviously when you think of a market like California and there's just like millions of these things getting used, like an outrageous amount. It definitely becomes, I always had a deep appreciation and this is not Gary's unit. I think this was like a ripoff version that Torch did, but this was the pen that Gary Bay did. Gary Bae was the gentleman who really was involved in the beginning.

18:43BubblemanHe always claimed that the designs that he threw away in China Got taken out of the garbage bin and turned into the vape pen industry. And Gary was always very, very conscious. He's who I brought to the table to do the Trinity pen. And so Gary was one of the first to like open up cartridges and open them up and realize that there was soldering that was getting smoked, that there were these cotton wicks that had chemicals in them.

19:11BubblemanThey were, you know, he was really the guy that kind of was uncovering that while no one else was really interested in doing it. And so we had this really high level of consciousness in regards to these pens. And I thought, man, I can get behind now. Like this guy is on the ball. So, you know, like I said, this is a ripoff version of his pen, but even the metal mouthpiece with the screen on the inside, right?

19:36BubblemanLittle metal screen. Everything about this pen could be taken apart. Gary's pen, at least. You could take the whole thing apart. You could take the internal part. Like I have photos. Going way back on my Instagram where you'll see all these little cogs, it looks like parts of a watch, but it's actually parts of his vape pen. And he ran over two kilos of oil through one of his pens.

20:02BubblemanAnd so, you know, he also had a very hard time with the disposable in the sense that he knew how unnecessary it was. He was like, look, if you just built the right hardware and you give them the right hardware, You know, from there on, it's just a matter of selling them, you know, buckets or whatever for them to just put into the through the pen on their own to each their own.

20:26BubblemanThere's always going to be a very loud chirping voice against disposables in particular. I'm on the fence with it. I know that it's like ideally not that good. And then I try to realize, well, you know, I'm doing as many good things in life as possible. Maybe I won't end up continuing with vape pens or maybe, I'll travel down the rabbit hole of trying to come up with something different in regards to the way I sell rosin to make it even more convenient and accessible to go into devices like Puffco, which very well could be something that happens here in the future.

21:07BubblemanI've had a partner for a while now.

21:13BubblemanWho's just texted me, actually, funny enough. I like when the coincidence does its dance right in front of me. Who's got some really interesting things on the go. It's doubtful he'll mention too many of them today, but he's got some very, very interesting things on the go. This will be foreshadowing. I know how annoying that is when someone mentions and teases something a little bit like that, but it's not mine to share.

21:38BubblemanAnd I'm under a strict NDA, so that makes it pretty easy not to share as well. But he'll come in here really soon and introduce himself and give us a little background into what he's doing. For those of you that don't know, he just started the Instagram account Bunker Innova. And so I'm not sure if you guys have seen some of the Bunker Innova posts in regards to holidays.

22:05BubblemanHolography? Yeah, holography. In regards to holography. All sorts of wild things going on in the Instagram world in regards to that. I think there was a couple people that posted about it in a very short period of time. What was the bunker? Oh, I'm sorry, Colin.

22:24SpeakerBunker what?

22:26BubblemanInnova. I-N-N-O-V-A. Like innovation, but Innova.

22:31Collin PalmerSo you can, this is the holographic, you can do this to chocolate and other confectionery things.

22:37BubblemanBut guess how, but guess for how long you can do it for chocolate?

22:41Collin PalmerI don't, I have no idea, but I know that it's possible.

22:43BubblemanLike, like, like under a minute before the chocolate is ever moving. He'll, I won't be the one to explain this stuff because it's really his specialty, but you're right. They have done it on chocolate. They've just never figured out how to stabilize it on chocolate. I think is the case, like it disappears. I think it's the same case for a lot of things that you put it onto, but depending on what he wants to share today, he can share it with us.

23:09BubblemanIt should be fun. It should be fun.

23:13SpeakerWow, some really cool opal essence. He's got the parallax coming out of the magnifying glass. Pretty neat stuff, how the... Justin Cronin, A crystalline, I guess he's doing that with crystals of somewhat. It creates that opal essence. Pretty, I mean, beautiful.

23:34BubblemanYeah, yeah. He's a tripper, dude. You'll get, you'll get along with him for sure.

23:39SpeakerYeah. So, yeah, you know, The resin, how you get the resin, I think just when you were talking before we mentioned bunker there, it's like it's somewhat it's removing as many things in between the resin and the person. You know, not everyone can do forest baths in the cool spring mornings. Why not? And so. What the fuck?

24:02BubblemanAre you telling me there's people that aren't doing that, Adam?

24:05SpeakerWell, I do think that is a great holistic concept of city design, of bringing more of that back into our lives. But step by step, pulling the wand out of your backpack is kind of where we're at. I mean, that's why the Trinity pens were good. That's why the work Colin's doing, it's just recognizing that there's a gentleness. You don't want the PEG, the polyethylene glycols, where all of that vape began is pretty gnarly.

24:38SpeakerI think it's sodium phosphate that's created when PEG is heated. So these people are literally huffing acid vapors and So it's like, yeah, moving towards the cleanest medicine in the most gentle, coolest inhalation. I mean, this is, this is, this is a good direction. More garden, more gardens.

25:03BubblemanIt's a good idea. I saw a really cool thing recently. It was called the garden sock. And it's these giant black socks and you just fill them up with earth and you just lay them down on concrete. And it's like the cheapest way to turn a parking lot. You don't have to build with expensive wood. There's no beds. It's just done in this in this giant sock.

25:25BubblemanAnd I was like, I was like, man, that is unbelievable how accessible it is. You know, it's tough because business and capitalism generally pulls the focus towards profit margins and so profit margins you often forget about you know maybe the more vulnerable people who maybe don't make up as much of what you would think your margins are and but to see this you know to be like man this is like a really incredible concept the the garden sock fill it up throw it on your deck throw it on whatever the guy they were interviewing was like an agronomist and he was just like i don't think i've ever seen a cheaper way To bring growing food and herbs accessible to people in the city.

26:13BubblemanYou can throw them on your, go ahead.

26:16SpeakerThe profit margin thing is so important to recognize that all of the incentives, if you tied in the I don't know what it's called, but the later costs of production, such if you tied the cancers and the cost of that into the dirty food or the application of glyphosate, you know, if you tie that together, the profit margin disappears and it becomes way more expensive to not do it clean, to not provide, to not take care of the watershed.

26:48SpeakerSo it's really like a A non-recognition and a diffusion of the obligation and liability that makes it the profit margin even in existence. And yeah, so. That's right. That's somewhat on us. The earth bags, these simple technologies of not applying fancy poison to the product as it's growing, you know, it's actually expensive to do that. And it's less expensive to maybe fill an earth bag with nitrogen and carbons and have living soil do the work of that.

27:32SpeakerAnd there's, oh man, so such nice new guests.

27:37BubblemanYes, well, welcome to the Spartans who just popped in. Do you guys like that? The Spartans? I like that. I like that. Thank you.

27:45SpeakerYeah, Lady Spartan all day.

27:48BubblemanYeah, Lady Spartan. That sounds like banger.

27:52SpeakerThank you. What's going on, man?

27:56BubblemanWell, just doing a little hash church, chatting with the Wolf Mountain and Colin. I see that Bunker Inova just popped in as well with some beautiful palm trees in the background.

28:08SpeakerYeah, I love what Adam was talking about there, Wolf Mountain there. As I was coming in, it's like speaking to my soul there, man, as I'm out there propping up some of my vegetables that I put out a little early and the frost kind of got them a little bit today, but I think they're going to make it through. I was, you know, being a little greedy, I guess, but I don't care.

28:28BubblemanA little greedy? Michigan, April 27th?

28:32SpeakerHey, man, you know, when it's warm outside, you got to follow nature sometimes. Oh, he's got his puppy.

28:39BubblemanLook at the puppy. Oh, beautiful dog. That's an intelligent dog, like beyond intelligent. Oh, my God. Look at that. Now that's a puppy. These two with their dogs. Are you seeing that? Oh, my gosh. I forgot about those little puppies. His puppy is not a puppy, but his puppy, that border collie knows like... I don't want to say the wrong thing, but like 100, 200, some ridiculous amount of words, like hundreds, hundreds.

29:09BubblemanNo, no, no. Like he throws like a room full of toys and then they all have names and he says, go get this toy. And it just goes right to that toy and gets it and brings it back in like a room full of toys.

29:20SpeakerThat's awesome.

29:21BubblemanYeah, yeah. Really intelligent. That's amazing. Super intelligent dog.

29:28SpeakerLots of energy. I wish I could bottle that up and use it myself. My girl over here will kick the door while she's sleeping and then start barking thinking somebody's at the door. Oh, my God.

29:39BubblemanThat is awesome. That's why we love dogs, though, isn't it?

29:44SpeakerYeah. I love dogs. I mean, when you can come home, you know, for 10 years straight and, you know, 10 years and three days, you open that door and they're just as happy to see it on that day one as that day 10 years and day one.

29:58BubblemanWell, and you know what? It's crazy not to flip the script, but it's because, you know, I've lost my doggy the last couple of years. It's like every one of those is like how sad you are when they're gone. Oh, yeah. The grief is just outrageous on, you know, losing the family dog. It's just, I'll never have been through a worse experience.

30:22SpeakerThat's the first instinct. We didn't.

30:24BubblemanYeah, we didn't. I can't do that again. No, that's the thing. It's a weird, it's just a weird feeling.

30:31SpeakerI think it's cool to find those little personality quirks show up in each of them though. And then you always find yourself, you know, oh man, well, my last dog, he did it like this, but look at her go. You know, I like that. It always reminds you of them still. It's a lot like kids. Family. It's right to say family. It's a pack. They do it well.

30:50SpeakerAnd 90% of them communicate exceptionally better than humans. A lot of the things that we do in our socialization, men are dogs, and not in a bad way. But this is when we're at our best, we behave like the canines. And there's no such thing as a lone wolf. That's a total fallacy. If they're alone, they're not quite a wolf. And so, you know, family is everything.

31:19SpeakerGood communication. They're not this idea of the big bad wolf. They're very kind of peaceful. They want to avoid conflict as much, which is why they bark. You know, the ones that will run up and bite, that is an anxious 10% of the pack that likely should not be proliferated. What breed do you have there? What's your puppy? What's that? What's your breed? What's the puppy you got right there?

31:52SpeakerSo we've had we've had a few generations of wolves of Timberwolf German Shepherds when we moved out here 20 years ago. And so having generations and breeding them, this was a great lesson and taught me a lot about. That's incredible. And so currently we have a male. Caucasian Shepherd or Caucasian Ovcharka. And they're the big livestock guardian dog breed. And he bred with our Swiss Shepherd, Ella.

32:29SpeakerAnd I'll try to get some pictures up. But this is Ola. She's the pick of the litter. She's the one who presented herself as the most kind and gentle. And she looks like a chonky one. She's she's again, that's part of her. Tell her how old that dog is.

32:46BubblemanTell her how old that dog is.

32:47SpeakerThis is a five-week-old pup. Oh, no! In three weeks, they're going to be looking for homes. I'm trying to get wolfmountainorganics.com up to display them because it'd be nice to not just have to... Oh, that poor mom. That poor mom. So... Oh, my God. That's huge. I mean, the gentleness is present and like... Yeah, I just, I just, I just want to speak to that. And I'll end it with that is that the, the ideas we have of wolves and the dogs is, is wrong.

33:20SpeakerIt's they're not big, bad. They're mainly. Uh, they forward good communication when in family values. And that is, that is the kind of, I think what everyone was attempting to express that that love is there and it's unconditional. And, uh, that's something that we as humans, when we're at our best, we're acting like dogs somewhat.

33:43BubblemanYeah, just watch the wolves walk through the forest or through the plains and look at the order that they go in and look how the leader is always way at the back, kind of by himself, overwatching the rest of the pack. All the order, the strategy, and the understanding of keeping the women and children safe. That's what it's all about. Every time they travel, it's all about keeping the females and the youth As safe as humanly possible.

34:14BubblemanAnd that is like the greatest instinct that you could ever possibly succumb to, right? That's just the instinct.

34:23SpeakerOut of the 40 beautiful creatures we've had, only one of them was extremely problematic and couldn't quite socialize. The rest were beautiful. And the women alphas were the most intelligent, most kind, most powerful, most ready to run right after the bear. You know, like, so it's like, that's, that's another thing is the females really do run, run, run the wolves. And that's, uh, that was cool. The guys are much more Scooby-Doo-ish, dopey, you know, beta.

35:04SpeakerMaybe more ready to vocalize because of some fear, but man, the matriarchy is real. That's awesome.

35:13BubblemanBunker, you're going to introduce yourself and say hello? Get you off mute there? How you doing, brother?

35:18SpeakerHello. Hi there. How's it going, guys?

35:22BubblemanDude, it's good to have you on Hash Church. It's wild to hear you on Hash Church.

35:27SpeakerWell, first of all, they should know I'm kind of shy. So it's a big deal to be here. It's a big deal, for sure.

35:35BubblemanI've been talking to you for over a year, like on the daily, about all sorts of wild stuff, some completely wild stuff. And no, I think it's good, man. I think it's good for you to come and share on Hash Church. And, you know, you made that little Instagram account and started sharing some pretty interesting things. And people are just like, What the fuck is this guy doing?

35:57SpeakerIt's been fun. It's been eventful, right? But we had to do it for certain reasons to kind of finally come out of the bunker in short terms. I've been hiding for too long, so nice to see you all. I've been watching all of you guys for... Probably more than a year. But it's good to be here. Before I forget about the dogs, you are completely right. That was Adam, right?

36:26SpeakerYeah, man. I mean, this is mother and daughter. They changed my life 360 degrees. They have made me so much happier. So I decided to breed her. I kept the girl. And

36:43SpeakerThey are so smart and the unconditional love that they give you, it's almost unnatural because it's not good even for them to a certain extent because if you get a bad owner, their unconditional love is so unconditional that they will still love you. So it's been quite an incredible experience to understand what unconditional love is that humans do not have. But we can definitely learn a lot Just by being with them and watching them.

37:16SpeakerOnce I have the video, Marcus, I can send it to you about the toy video that's famous. She has a video in the Dodo. I don't know if you guys know the Dodo. It's an animal video show. She knows... 3,000 words right now. She knows about 500 names of toys. So I can put the whole mountain of toys and I just say the name of the toy and she'll bring it.

37:43SpeakerThey used to say that dogs do not see color. I've proven it wrong. There's a video on YouTube. I buy dice that are different colors and I say, bring the green dice, bring the blue dice. She always gets it right. So they see colors. So there's so much more to know about dogs, but research stopped. years ago probably 20 30 years ago we haven't done any research on dogs so it's quite amazing to start figuring these things out by yourself by having a dog anyways i'm done with the dog thing dude we love the dogs we love the dogs so tell us tell us what's going on in your world it's been crazy as you know right um i work in nanotechnology I have been manufacturing nano solutions for all kinds of industries from big pharma to cosmetics to the cannabis industry and car industry and all kinds of other stuff.

38:44SpeakerAnd what we do is basically, you know, my father started the company 45 years ago. And he studied in MIT and he studied from the guy that discovered holography. So ever since then, right after MIT, he opened the first holographic company in the world. And holograms apparently have a lot to do with cannabis as now you know right which is crazy there's a lot of connections from manufacturing to all the things that i am discovering that you marcus know that uh we're just showing the little little bits of uh glimpses of of the hologram part but I am working on extraction systems that have to do with not using mesh bags, no polyester bags, no nylon bags.

39:36SpeakerWe're working on something super exciting that I know you want to get it out ASAP. And we're biting our tongues here, right? But I think it's going to be very exciting once we announce it to everybody. It's been five years in the making. It's been a nightmare, but it's been a fun nightmare nonetheless. That's for sure. And In regards to track and trace, I've developed a hologram that I want to substitute for the big RFIDs that are destroying the industry in the United States.

40:13SpeakerMetric, you know, decided to go with a dying technology called RFIDs. They are super expensive because they cannot be produced in mass volume and reduced to cost because they rely on chips and pieces. They're not flexible. So the idea... Thank you for joining us.

40:53SpeakerWe're working on showing something very soon that you've seen, which is a label that is environmentally friendly. Does not use any chips. We discovered how to extract information from optics as I'm trying to show a little bit in the Instagram little by little.

41:10BubblemanAnd you should talk a little bit about your Instagram because not everyone will have seen it or will have understood it. So whatever you're willing to share about your Instagram, definitely do that.

41:22SpeakerCan I say the story why I had to put that Instagram on? Yeah, sure. Yeah. There is a guy, and I don't like to talk bad about anybody, as you know, you know, but someone read my patent and they started posting, pretending to be me and already offering services that I didn't even understand what they were offering. So I think you or someone sent me the link of the hologram on cannabis.

41:53SpeakerAnd, you know, this is one of the IPs that I have, but No one is still figuring out what the real application is, as you know. So I had to kind of go on Instagram, put an Instagram account, because I'm not a social media guy, and kind of get this guy back on his seat because this guy was out of control. He has done this to other people in the industry.

42:19SpeakerAnd so... I was lucky to have enough videos to prove that I am the guy that really understands the holography. And this guy, you know, kind of went away, but not really. So what I'm showing there is I discovered how to put holography on crystalline. Crystalline has an incredible property that it has a refractive index, a very high refractive index. Almost nothing in nature has something like this.

42:50SpeakerYou have to make this type of stuff in a lab. So labels that have holography, you have to put metal and stuff. I mean, all kinds of stuff just to make it refractive. The beautiful thing here is that There is nothing added to this thing that you're seeing right now. It's just a stamp and the technology is behind the stamp in the surface. That's done with a laser or an E-beam and you are literally carving such tiny structures that they interact with light.

43:20SpeakerNow, the hard part is being able to know how to shoot Thank you for joining us.

43:53SpeakerAnd the structures are so hard because the nature of the resin is that they stay. So chocolate, candy, everybody in the confectionery industry tried for years to put holography on this stuff. They were never able to because of the nature of these materials. Cristalline because it's oil-based and it's hydrophilic, hydrophobic, I'm sorry, hydrophobic meaning that it's water repellent. It just, it's perfect for a hologram because it repels water.

44:26SpeakerIt is a hard crystalline structure. And so you can put information in there. And one of the ideas is you powderize these guys. Imagine the whole surface has nanotext, nanotext that you can see with a microscope that is attached to your phone. So very fast, you put it in and you see valid, secure. These are texts that you cannot see with the naked eye. So imagine that whole surface you're looking at right now has nanotext.

44:51SpeakerYou powderize this stuff. And California and Colorado have been looking and asking, lobbyists have been asking for a track and trace solution. And there are all these DNA protein tagging companies that are trying to show themselves in MJBizCon. And it's disgusting because they're trying to, you know, tag flower with Thank you for watching.

45:32SpeakerEach powder, let's say a 60 micron powder will have almost 40 characters of text. So you're talking about a powder that is smaller than a grain of salt. And so each one on both sides have 80 characters of information. So if you powderize that you have glitter, glitter is made with holography by just powderizing a metal plastic where the hologram is in. Now we can make glitter with THCA, but that's not the idea.

46:00SpeakerNow you can shoot this powder in a conveyor where the flour is coming in. This is the only solution I could come up with where lobbyists and people are asking for something that Thank you so much for joining us.

46:28SpeakerAnd now you have just tagged flour with crystalline cannabinoids. And if you want to go and validate it wherever, if someone gets sick, someone is trying to sue the company, if whatever, it happens all the time, by the way, companies can now protect themselves, consumers can protect themselves. And there is information now in the flour that you could check and see if you got the real stuff or the counterfeit.

46:53SpeakerSo that's one of them.

46:55BubblemanSo you're spraying. That's so crazy, dude. First of all, OK, so people have to wrap their head around this because it took me a very long time. There is nothing in that piece of crystalline hologram with like the Taj Mahal. There's nothing added to it. It's not a film. It's not an ink. It's not like anything. It's like a microscopic carving that creates diffraction that creates these images that can move as you.

47:25BubblemanIt's so fucking crazy that even as he was posting it, people were like. Oh, who's going to smoke? You know, like not having an understanding very much like I didn't. I don't think holography is some common fucking sense concept. It's totally counterintuitive and insane. Although I did read the holographic universe many, many years ago, which was an incredible book, especially the metaphoric, you know, the fact that the hologram, like he was saying, when you powderize it, right, like a hologram, the way it works is even the smallest piece of the hologram Contains the data of the entire hologram.

48:03BubblemanThis is like a hard thing to wrap your head around when you're really not understanding. Most people see it and they're like, oh, it's just like he stamped some kind of, you know, refractive ink on top of the crystalline structure. Also, the one that I showed, the clear crystal structure, was that THCA?

48:27SpeakerYou're muted.

48:30SpeakerAll THCA and CBDA so far, but I'm going to play with some other A's very soon.

48:38BubblemanThat's incredible, dude, that you can just put that. That was a piece of THCA. That was the crystalline structure you were talking about.

48:47SpeakerThat's the material you're using. That's the important part is you have a non-toxic material.

48:53BubblemanAdam, you grow your metric tags on your farm.

49:00SpeakerI've got a question with that though, because if it's on the product and it's safe to consume, so you consume the product and it's used for verifiability and to refer back to, what happens after you smoke it? How do you go back and see what's on the product? Like you've consumed it at that point. Your DNA verifies it. You're consuming, but hopefully the idea is you grab a jar that you just bought, hopefully in the store, right?

49:28SpeakerThe idea. Yeah. And you open it up, you rolled up a joint, and you started getting sick. You don't feel good. And then you ended up in the hospital. And then now you want to sue whoever you want to sue. They're going to ask. What are you, American? Exactly. As you can see, I've been exposed to this too much. This is my business. It happens way too often.

49:51SpeakerIt's crazy what's going on in this world. So people want to protect themselves. Companies want to protect themselves. So what do you do is you go back to that jar and you just look in with a microscope and you're going to find all of these tiny dust particles that are THCA. And in that particle, if you zoom in with a microscope, you're going to see the holographic text.

50:11SpeakerWow. And so that's the idea. And yeah, it's there's nothing in it. Like once you understand that what we're doing is we're engraving that structure first into a stainless steel plate. So it's 100 percent food grade. Thank you so much for joining us.

50:49SpeakerVery delicate to moisture and temperature fluctuations. So if you put a little coin, imagine it's just a validator. Yep, that's the concept right there. And I'm showing already a video of one. And so you can make them very small so you don't have to spend too much money putting it on top of the one grammar or whatever concentrator product. But the idea is that structures are made so that if moisture goes in, those structures will Thank you for joining us today.

51:34BubblemanSo time out, is that little round disc also made of THCA?

51:40SpeakerYeah, 100%.

51:42BubblemanI think this is going over everyone's heads, dude. That's why I have to keep asking you these questions. So let me just show that one more time.

51:50SpeakerIt's because classically litmus tests and things like this are toxic chemicals. And that's, I think that that is the most important thing is this non-toxic material. You know, to create your holograms that nature knows how to do, little fire opal, betroidal opal essence out of nature. You taking these materials and being able to verify that, hey, this stayed cool, they stayed cold until it got to you is amazing.

52:22SpeakerAnd I just, all the way back to your beginning statement of, The state wants to know there's custody and that none of this is a self-regulated market and all of this thing. Really, the importance is the user knowing that it's clean, the user having the data that it was kept cold. And so I would... In all this, put a little pushback and say, the importance isn't of the state to understand its custody as much as the user knows its product has been taken care of and is clean and verified.

52:58SpeakerAnd so the fact that you're getting that data to the user where California collects its assay, and even if it has glyphosate in it, if it's under passable levels, it gets a pass and that's all the user sees. And so we need, There's still work to do there. That's very, very cool little.

53:17BubblemanIt's an incredible technology. And then it also speak a little bit about the data retention or the accessibility of data that you can embed into these holograms, very much like a QR code, but really very much cooler than a QR code.

53:34SpeakerYou nailed it. This is something it's been 10 years in the making with my father. We found a way to make optical QR codes, we call them. QR codes have been nice for all of us, but to a certain extent, they don't have too much application because they're made with ink, they're printed on a surface, and you can copy that QR code a billion times, and any scanning device is going to validate it because it's the same QR code copied over and over.

54:02SpeakerWhen you put A optical hidden QR code, let's say a covert and overt information, which you can with holography. All of a sudden you have information that yes, you can see with the eye. We could make things that you can see with the eye. You can validate it with the eye saying, for example, in the instructions, if you turn it 90 degrees, you're going to see another image appear that says valid.

54:25SpeakerAnd we can do that with that coin. So that coin can have many different visual cues to show you, you know, validation, but, um, What was I going to say? Yeah, the hidden information can be extracted now through an iPhone, through the optics of the camera. So this is a huge technology that we're trying to, like I said, get it to the full custody chain, like you just said, Adam, because my idea would be if this can be inside of a product like a concentrate, then we already extended it Thank you for watching.

55:19SpeakerIt will tell you more information and exact things of what it went through just by scanning and looking at the holography, if that makes sense.

55:27BubblemanI mean, dude, I see a future of, you know, buying your concentrate and you hit it with your phone and maybe you're projecting it onto a screen at the time and you've got a room full of people and it's like, let's see where this came from. And it's like, boom, you just met the farmer. You just saw the field. You just saw how they processed it. It went right into a cold supply chain.

55:46BubblemanIt got processed. You met the hash maker. Now you're meeting the patent. Just like a three minute or a two minute little short video coming out of the QR code. Maybe it even comes out as the brand comes out three dimensionally and it opens the mouth of the wizard. And now that's the TV and you're watching this little video. It's literally incredible. Anything you can think of.

56:09BubblemanIt's so fucking cool.

56:12SpeakerIt's wild. There's two points too that I'd love to make too is like from working with Metric and having to deal with the thing that the biggest thing that appalled me was the mountains of garbage. The mountains of garbage that it created. And you're eliminating that problem. And that's fucking, that's a godsend, man. Thank you for that. And then the other point is, is we don't, you can think beyond cannabis with us.

56:38SpeakerYou can eliminate that problem, just not with cannabis, but across the board with our food chain or, you know. Add THCA to all our food. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yep. I, we, you know, Marcus knows of another patent in Canada they've used, I mean, holography has so many applications. I think you, Marcus, told me about the one that Canada uses for the army, right? For weapons?

57:09BubblemanOh, no. The only one I know about the army for weapons was the U.S. government. They had a patent called Stuff Dust.

57:18SpeakerSo it's a very good idea because if armies are going to do nasty stuff in war, which they do, The idea behind this was why don't we put glitter holographic stuff that doesn't melt. It's a different type of thing, but it's still the same concept. And in each bomb as they are dropped, you'll be able to forensically know who dropped it. Exactly. And it's something very nice in case they're doing some criminal things, right?

57:47SpeakerSo it's a track and trace also for all kinds of stuff. But the idea here is for peace and love type of track and trace. And yes, Adam, for your idea. The hologram that I'm working on, it's the world's first variable holography. So we're about to change holography for the better. Holograms for the last 50 years have been analog. You take a month to make one design and then that design gets repeated over and over.

58:14SpeakerHave you seen in your credit card, your visa, that eagle hologram? They're still using the same hologram for years. So with our technology, you'll be able to in one second make a hologram. And two seconds make up another one. And each one is completely visually and covertly variable. So that means that now you have a one cent label instead of 75 cents to a dollar of something that's not flexible and heavy and wasteful.

58:45SpeakerAnd even the shipping is expensive of RFIDs because they're so heavy, as you probably know. So you guys probably know better about this nightmare. And with these labels, they're so tiny, they can be environmentally friendly because there's no ink in them and they're super cheap. You will lower the taxes in California that are killing it right now because a lot of people don't know that Millions of dollars from taxes come from the RFIDs.

59:15BubblemanDude, they definitely don't know because I was talking to my buddy the other day and I was like, well, how much are you paying for these? He's like, I don't pay anything, man. They're free. And he literally was like, they're free. I get like 2,000 of them per crop and I'm like, they're free. I'm like, dude, like you have to know they're not free.

59:35SpeakerThey were brilliant, man. I can't even say the name of the owner. I mean, I've had a talk with them. When he found my idea was I was going to show him something better than what he had and we would partner up. Right.

59:48BubblemanGive him a heart attack. Scare the shit out of him.

59:51SpeakerApparently, you were right on that one.

59:55BubblemanYeah, it happens that way. I've had it happen myself where I've discovered an incredible technology and brought it to the people who are in the position to benefit the most from it and also who inevitably would be the ones to benefit the least from it. If they ignored it, and man, they ignored it. Holy shit, they ignored it.

1:00:16SpeakerIt's the human ego. It's the or there's more to the story, right? But that is the case. So slowly we'll make our way. I'm just trying to get connections to the lobbyists because those are the people that make decisions for us. So hopefully this becomes a whole food chain, you know, the label. Thank you so much for joining us.

1:01:04SpeakerSo making, yeah, that is a security tag stamp. It supposedly has security inks and security that can be counterfeited anywhere now, but. From a grower's perspective too, it's just like to know that it's also made from THCA. Oh, cool. So you're making a market for the product that I'm growing? Wonderful. It's just like a win, a win, a win.

1:01:27BubblemanYou grow your own metric tags. Yeah. You have to understand when he first started telling me this, I was just like, dude, Nobody is going to be letting you put anything. I've seen these chads at MJ Biz Conference with their protein fucking spray on. It's just like, I'm just like, dude, nobody is ever going to let you do this. He's got this smirk on his face like, oh, what do you think it could be made of that people would be accepting of?

1:01:58BubblemanAnd I'm like, literally nothing. There's nothing you could say that it was made out of. That I could possibly agree with. And he's like, well, what about THCA?

1:02:06SpeakerAnd I'm like, okay, it's an improvement on the old tech. You know, the idea of RFID, it's just a serial number that maybe is approachable with a radio frequency. It's like, I really always liked the tax stamps. Oh, this isn't coming in. Okay, of like, you know, Italian tax stamps used vector lines that were very hard to print. And online models, you know, you'd have this really detailed vector that assured you it was a, that, Good water, you know, so it's like that technology is cool.

1:02:49SpeakerYou're improving on the technology. You're removing the ink. It's a move.

1:02:53BubblemanHe's way ahead of his time. Like people in the people, some people in the chat are like, I don't get it. It's like, of course you don't get it. It's literally ahead of its time. We don't have cold supply chain yet, but when we do, he's got the technology in place already to ensure that it stays in place right till the customer cracks that jar. And knows that, oh, you know what?

1:03:16BubblemanMy cold chain. I mean, dude, if you could do it to the point where it was temperature dependent, like you could actually change the image and it could tell you, oh, this image means it went to 20 degrees Celsius. This image means it went to 10 degrees. So that is insane. And of course, brands like mine. We'll be all over that shit.

1:03:36SpeakerThe idea of wanting to look for a penny label. Come on. Anything over four degrees Celsius is unacceptable. Keep it cool.

1:03:46BubblemanAnd I know that the cannabis industry will in the future take a beating on counterfeiting once brands get popular enough like anything does. Counterfeiters will come into play where I'm sure Cookies has probably already had their names and their packaging jacked because they're at that level already. But other brands will get to those levels where, you know, you'll just if you don't do the work, you're basically saying your customer base isn't worth it because the work is basically assuring your customer.

1:04:17BubblemanLook, if you support our products, we're going to make sure that you get our products and we're not going to ignore the fact that there's groups out there That have the same manufacturing for Chinese packaging as we do. Because it's not as hard as you think to counterfeit simple packaging. But it is harder than you think to counterfeit What Ori is doing.

1:04:46SpeakerMy buddy last night was enjoying some Tyson Ranch vape, diamonds, whatever, and he was just coughing his head off. And I was just, he's like, I'm not sure if this is quite what it says it is, you know? And it's like, yeah, it's that, that unsurety that someone's just aping the name instead of giving you the real deal. Yeah, absolutely.

1:05:10BubblemanAbsolutely. Robert Carroll is, he's officially coining you the hologram man. So that's, that's my buddy, Robert, who's got the cows down in Spain. Thank you, Robert.

1:05:23SpeakerI like that. I am excited to show more. I think I'm going to post soon the video showing how the powder gets shot into the flower and then slowly start showing how easy it is to validate this stuff, you know. And at one point, Marcus, we're going to have your beautiful logo made into holography.

1:05:49BubblemanYeah, I'm stoked on that.

1:05:52SpeakerYeah, man, we're going to make labels and we're going to make THCA stamps just to show everybody that you can make a personalized stamp. And, you know, I think it's going to be amazing with your logo. So I'm excited. I'm working slowly on all the visual effects because, man, the stuff that I can do with this logo, it's just infinite. We can make, for example, the head turn.

1:06:17SpeakerI can make 200 images in that same logo. So meaning that you can put a video in your art. I'm just giving ideas, you know, you're going to tell me what you like, but a 3.5 second video from left to right as you move it, you can have the genie move, smile, do whatever. We can make the moon come up and down. We can do so many fun stuff.

1:06:47SpeakerIs it holding a trichome or a...

1:06:50BubblemanYeah, he's kind of holding a giant trichome head, which looks like an orb. Shout out to Max from Mothership who designed and created that. It's great.

1:07:01SpeakerSomething crazy with that one.

1:07:03BubblemanYeah. I'm looking forward to it too. I love the sort of psychedelic aspect of the hologram and the nature of holograms. You know, it's so ties into the experience of cannabis and being high and And tapping into, you know, the source, whether it's the micro rhizosphere or the fungi intelligence or whatever it is, you're tapping in and holography. I mean, please argue with me that it's not psychedelic.

1:07:31BubblemanSomeone, you nailed it.

1:07:33SpeakerIt's RGB. It's the actual colors of light. It's red, green, and blue. And all of those three colors make all of the other colors you see. And the beauty is that you got it. It can be an eye massager. And I've made holograms that are like more mantra, more like for meditation. And you will look at this guy and you start meditating. And before you know it, you're like in a relaxed state because what it's doing is it's shooting information in the form of pure color light that's not being altered by humans because all of the pigments are.

1:08:08SpeakerSo it's coming straight from the sun. And then into your eyes, diffracted by these structures. So giving you literally an eye massage and probably increasing your retina retention of color and stuff, for all I know. It's just an incredible thing. Yeah, I love it. It's the RGB, but it's the in-betweens. It's the interaction of the in-betweens. I mean, we were studying a little quantum science. We were questioning quantum computing.

1:08:38SpeakerAnd I realized, oh, that's what they're talking about. They're talking about the in between the zero and the one. And how if, you know, I don't know his name, but there's a philosopher mathematician who talked about how you can chop Thank you so much for joining us.

1:09:14SpeakerYou can mechanically imprint and get the light to display something that, you know, with ganja, it's the connection with God. It is God's garden and we're returning. And so this light interaction, how we're somewhat imbibing light or condensed light when we consume. I mean, this is all very cool. I like that riff, Marcus. I love what you're saying, Adam, because nature, like you said, hasn't been making holograms way before us.

1:09:47SpeakerButterflies, beetles, reptiles, flowers, plants, every plant, even cannabis. If you see it in special spectrum of lights, it has a special spectrum. It's its signature. It's its name. It's its profile. Why? Maybe at night there's an animal that it wanted. The moon shining into the cannabis to see. A lot of flowers have this so that the bees or the special insect knows that's my flower. That's my symbiotic relationship.

1:10:20SpeakerSo it's all around us. Reptiles have beautiful, birds have beautiful holograms that I'm still trying to understand and replicate. And I'm not even there yet. So it's been used to attracting information from males and females to let the female or the male know in nature if it's a viable mate. And so holography has been used as information for... Probably billions of years for all we know, if not millions.

1:10:52SpeakerSo it's quite an incredible thing. We're just stepping in. Holography is just the beginning because I told Marcus I'm working on copying other structures. For example, the lotus flower. If you guys ever see the lotus flower, the lotus effect, check it out on YouTube. It's an incredible thing. The lotus flower grows out of a dirty... And this flower, you can put honey on top. You can put oil.

1:11:15SpeakerYou can put water.

1:11:26SpeakerAnd it looks like it defies gravity because the droplets of the honey or the water that fall into the surface of the flower will stay as droplets. They roll because they have no surface tension. And as they roll, they pick up all the dust, all the dirt in the surface. And that's how the flower cleans itself. Now, they've tried to do this same effects with chemicals. You guys have seen the, you know, the one that you spray on your shoe and it becomes hydrophobic and all that.

1:11:53Speakerhorrible for the environment the one that like disrupts your uh central nervous system and uh it confuses the endocannabinoid system the petroleum derived synthetic detergents that come out of polyethylene cracking plants that they put in toothpaste soaps to all the laundry all the cl it is they're spraying all over the fields on our cities It is disrupting our immune system. And so and then they go out and they make this, you know, products and then they do mats and they do all kinds of stuff where food is actually touching.

1:12:30SpeakerWe have the solution. Physics has a solution. If you copy those structures on the plant, I have a lot of lotus flower right now. I'm looking in a microscope. If you copy those structures that nature figured out how to make so that it retains water in a droplet, which is insane. If you copy that in physics like holography and you replicate these structures, imagine you put this on a greenhouse so that the water always falls down and you don't have to ever clean it and it lasts way longer.

1:13:02SpeakerYou put it on a car, no more car washes, no more nasty chemicals for cleaning a car because the moment you just... Thank you for joining us.

1:13:32SpeakerThank you for joining us.

1:14:01BubblemanNature, man. Hey, so that's a Michael Talbot book, the one that I mentioned earlier, The Holographic Universe. Stephanie, if you want to wrap your head around holography, Michael sort of goes into the whole, really, his argument is nothing less than the universe is one giant hologram, and it is very well written, and it's super trippy. Stanislav Grof has another one called The Holographic Mind, which is also an interesting book, not quite on the same level as The Holographic Universe.

1:14:39BubblemanBut worth checking out. And then the other two I would say on this subject would be Eric K. Drexler, who coined the term nanotechnology back in the 80s at the Foresight Institute in Palo Alto, California. And his book was called Engines of Creations. That book was written in 1988. My father gave me that book in like 1990. I'll never forget him putting that book in my hand and me being like, the fuck is this?

1:15:03BubblemanThat book blew my mind. Well, 25 years later, Eric would write another book called Radical Abundance. And that one is really good, too. It's kind of a recap and a catch up of where he thought nanotechnology was going when he started reading, writing about it, and kind of where it's now going now, which is really, you know, in most circles, you know, when he coined the term nanotechnology, the majority of nanotechnology That he saw happen in the next 10 to 15 years was in Hollywood.

1:15:35BubblemanAnd he was pretty bummed out about it. He was like, come on, let's get this into the labs. Let's do real nanotechnology. Let's not just, you know, talk about the concepts of it in movies and TV shows. But it's come a long way since. And it's not necessarily what you think, like microscopic machines, as much as like potentially bacterias and enzymes and organizms that can be, you know, I was reading an article about how they're

1:16:18SpeakerThey're trying to figure out the signaling patterns within a plant. So, for example, what would that be make, you know, what would that do for us as a grower is the plant would be able to tell you, hey, I'm starting to get dry. Or a farmer in a field could maybe send a plant a signal like, hey, there's going to be a drought coming. You're not going to get rain for the next three days.

1:16:37SpeakerAnd it could already, you know, start conserving water or something like that. That was blowing my mind listening about that. That kind of sounds right up Bunker's Alley teaching his plants more than 3,000 words. You know, I've been reading up on that. It's going to happen sooner than we think because they just found out the connection between fungus and all the trees and plants underneath. And the way that they Should information and past information, carbon is passed under, you know, the whole symbiotic relationship.

1:17:12SpeakerThat's where the information is. It's a it's a neural network. It's just underneath us. And we probably copied it from them, you know, because it's been way longer than than what humans have been around. I mean, fungus have been around for almost it is it is the same. It is the same language. Our body has little pockets in our gut that do assays of what we are digesting.

1:17:35SpeakerAnd it is fungal fungus and bacteria, just like in the soil in our gut, that are the intelligence of our body is able to read what is present in the environment. And then present a plan and a spread of treatment to grab what it needs and us aligning with that conversation and not trying to add in some fancy technology of man, you know, some synthetic whatever that tends to create more problems than it does solution is the conversation we should be having is how do we- Is that the gut brain connection?

1:18:17SpeakerThat you're talking about. That's right. I mean, the brain getting to the point where we realize our brain is in our gut. It's not just in our head. It extends into the bacteria. We get prompted much in the way the plants do from the exudase of the fungus and bacteria in our biome. We feel good. Because 2-AG and anandamide are created by the digestion of the fungus and bacterias in our gut from short chain fatty and amino acids.

1:18:54SpeakerSo us, when people don't feel good, or the fact that the medical solution to depression is adding salicylate salt condensed SSRIs into the biome, which removes the ability To produce the anandamide in 2-AG, creating the problem that it's trying to solve, creating malabsorption with the ozempics and all of these other poisons. So this short-term view, non-recognition that our mind does exist in our stomach and we must edify the system that exists.

1:19:36SpeakerWe are not going to be able to install a synthetic system over top. We literally need, just like the plants, we need the ingredients to be present. We need the sunlight, the water, and recognition that diversity, okay, and purity, All of that is creates the juices that we're looking for, creates our happy juices, creates the resin, the fat of the land. And I've been studying the nutritional aspect of this very directly recently.

1:20:13SpeakerAnd when I started to hear the same things out of the Stanford gut biome doctors, And I started to realize that the synthetics that were going on to the food crops and our medicine crops are the same things that are going into our children's toothpastes.

1:20:41SpeakerAnd in all of the soap dishes, and you find the articles that specifically point to residue amounts of these synthetic detergents, Thank you so much for joining us.

1:21:19SpeakerWhen they end the Ozempic, malabsorption is a problem forever. And recognizing that micro amounts of THC Delta-9 Terpenes and endles and phenols from the plant, which are only preserved through cold chain the whole way because they're so volatile. And again, micro amounts because that's what our own tummy produces. This is our best nutritional supplement to combat autoimmune, which is the fastest, largest growing problem we have. Thank you for listening.

1:22:03SpeakerAmen. Thank you. That was great, Adam. You nailed it, man. That was great. Yep. I think. Yeah, we got to start somewhere, right? But you nailed it. You nailed it.

1:22:20BubblemanYeah, they don't want you saying that in public, let me tell you. Oh my goodness.

1:22:25SpeakerHoly cow. Even in private, getting my own family to recognize that their own doctor's prescriptions are what is possibly killing them and presenting a plant oil as a remedy and a fix to their ailments. The fear is so much stronger, the dedication. And again, when people are hurt and in pain, fear and the ability to reason are the first things that go out the window. And so it's very difficult in private to breach these things because people have this experience where possibly they have been harmed, but that's because the medicine that they tried that one time Dr. Justin Marchegiani, MD, M.D., M.D., M.D., M.D., M.D., M.D.

1:23:40SpeakerTo me, this is like people will be in dirty pesticide-laden grows. They will be eating pure sugar candy in their diet and also showing themselves in the emergency room from allegedly cannabis hypermesis syndrome. Whereas it's like the cannabinoids were the only thing in your diet that was helping. But all else things are the problem. Let's not... So I personally... Fuck cannabis hypermesia syndrome. I am so sorry if you have it, but fuck all of those goddamn doctors that just want to assign it to you because, oh, well, this is easier to just blame it on that.

1:24:23SpeakerBecause the amount of hell that you have to go through continually trying to advocate for yourself saying, hey, look, I did try to abstain and it was fucking hell to get through. And then having to say, look, this is the only thing that is helping me. It's the only thing I've been able to find. They were prescribing me medications that were supposed to be healing like my gut lining because Thank you so much for joining us.

1:24:54SpeakerThey gave me this medicine that was supposed to help start healing the stomach lining and instead it caused panic, anxiety, migraines to the point where I wasn't able to see visually. And I would go back and I would tell them I cannot be on this. It's making it worse to function. I mean, I'm talking I was doubled over in pain just trying to make dinner for my kids and stuff, trying to get through and not throw up in the middle of cooking because whatever was going on with my stomach.

1:25:18SpeakerThank you for watching.

1:25:40SpeakerAnd I would go to the hospital and I would get laughed at. There was one specific doctor and unfortunately was the only hospital that I was able to go to for, you know, two years of my life because I was living in the middle of basically nowhere. So it was like this one facility and this emergency room doctor, I would go in and I would explain to him, hey, I've had, you know, this sort of ailment.

1:26:03SpeakerI'm dealing with this. I do have some anxiety. And he would start laughing at me. He would start using air quotes over things that I would say. And then I would say, okay, just send me home then. I'm sorry you can't help me. And the nurse would get mad at me when I try to sign myself out saying, well, you're not even taking our help. I'm like, how can I take help when you're laughing at me and not taking me seriously?

1:26:21SpeakerYou're blaming this all on my cannabis use when I'm telling you this is the only thing that I have found to even make anything, anything, Thank you so much for joining us today.

1:26:59BubblemanIt's too bad, it's too bad Adam wasn't your doctor.

1:27:01SpeakerThere's hopeful, look, there's hope, Marcus, you trained this in me, is to, this is a hopeful message that there is solution. And, you know, I assume that what they prescribed to you was polyethylene glycol based, maybe a hydrochloric steroid or some kind that shut down immune system operation. You know, we shouldn't get into that specifically, but the idea... The solution to a healthy plant and a healthy person are basic and base.

1:27:38SpeakerThey involve short chain amino fat and fatty acids. You do this by putting the ingredients into the stomach properly, really supporting hydrochloric acid and bile production, which may have been injured, which If food, even if you're eating proteins and fats, if that gets past the stomach into the gut without being broken down into short chain, then we are feeding the less preferable microbes. Just in the same way that probably feeding macronutrients to plants don't necessarily edify the mycorrhizae.

1:28:20SpeakerSo there's like... There's just a hopeful story of resin removing all things because our dish soap that likely everyone is using is the thing that causes leaky gut, that causes Dr. Justin Ames, MD, MD, MD, MD, MD, MD, MD, MD,

1:28:56SpeakerThank you so much for joining us today.

1:29:24SpeakerAnd so keep the education going.

1:29:42SpeakerAnd don't, don't be afraid to continually advocate for yourself. Stand up for yourself because you might think that you can't, you might think this is all I have because, oh, I'm on state aid. I don't have the best insurance. I have lived literally the majority of my life on state aid, just Medicaid insurance. And when I was dealing with all of these issues, that's what I had to go through with it.

1:30:04SpeakerAnd every time I would have to wait the weeks, the months to get the appointments. But you advocate for yourself and if they're not listening, then you ask for someone else to come in right there. Like do not think that they can push you around, that they can blame you and make you feel like shit because you found a way to make it through. I agree 100%.

1:30:22SpeakerYou have to trust yourself, your gut instinct. And I went through the same. Adam Indles saved my life. I'll just leave it at that. And depression was something that I've dealt with most of my life until the last couple of years. Thanks to me, because if I would have kept on going on that route, I have a few friends that are not here anymore and they're not here anymore because they listened to these people and they continued on the route from ADHD medications to other, you know, SSRIs and stuff because depression and your biome is so different from one to the other that thinking that one class of medication is going to solve everybody's depression Turns out, I think it's 5% or less, the people that benefit from SSRIs.

1:31:09SpeakerSo when I was desperate and I was having all these horrible side effects and doctors kept laughing like they did to you. No, you're wrong. You just got to keep trying this one and that one. I said, no, enough is enough. This is torture. I got to figure things out. Went on a crazy journey. book reading rampage internet rampage i think i ended up in google before gp chat gpt i was in google page 30 you know just from searching so much and yeah it turned out uh that i figured out from and i cannot say it you know here uh live What I figured out, what I decided to make my medication, but it saved my life.

1:31:50SpeakerIt completely changed me. And then once that switch changed, I saw the world differently. And then I knew I wanted a dog. I needed a dog in my life. And then I got Levi, my baby. And then I found true love, unconditional love. And it got even better from there. And I realized that that was my other, my new medication and I didn't need the other stuff too often.

1:32:15SpeakerAnd so the dog became my medication and then she had a daughter and, you know, they're my, they're my medicine now. And so for each zone, the only issue right now is that medicine and doctors are not on top of things. They're kind of behind. What they were taught is what they were taught 30, 40 years ago. They don't understand the serotonergic system very well. They don't understand in-dose.

1:32:42SpeakerThey don't understand all the stuff that Adam just talked about. And they are in micro portions in cannabis and other stuff as well. And if we supply ourselves with the right amount that you need, You all of a sudden become a better person. And I wish we had a platform where people like you and me could say our stories and you type in your issue and it just finds the right people for you.

1:33:08SpeakerAnd all of a sudden you read all of the stuff that they went through. You realize, oh my gosh, these are my people. I should follow what they went through. And before you know it, there's a solution for you, sadly. Right, the word of mouth is not, I mean, I've affected, I've gone to the Stanford Oncology Children's Cancer Ward, so it's like I've gone into these spaces and individually helped people with a lab tested medicine, verifiably extremely clean, stood in a ring of doctors, And a very accusatory tone, asked to see which toxic medicines they were pumping into the child.

1:33:52SpeakerAnd when given that, you know, it's just night and day to be felt that I was doing the incorrect thing. And the day before I did this, I had to decide I'm going to do what I would stand up and say, this is appropriate. I'm proud I did this. And Marcus helped me. This is our platform, but I think you're correct. All right, so we're going to take a quick break.

1:34:15SpeakerWe're going to take a quick break.

1:34:37SpeakerThank you so much for joining us today. We're going to get started in about a minute.

1:35:05SpeakerWe should be on the defensive of saying this non-toxic treatment is appropriate. It's almost like going and saying, hey, these products that you are selling and pushing are causing the problem. It's not. So it's like the fact that we are on the defensive because there is somewhat of a hundred year history of abuse of patients is is wrong. We need to start verifying What do these things do that you are monetarily incentivized to share with people?

1:35:38SpeakerAnd why are people being put in jail or afraid to even like you're saying, I won't even talk about what I did, even though it saved my life in this venue. It's like, OK, well, we need to find the venue where that is to be shared. And It's just important. It's fear. Marcus, I heard you were with Tony on an early podcast, and your message was, don't be afraid to share your truth.

1:36:06SpeakerAnd that empowered me to start appearing, to come down the mountain and say, this is what I know to be true. And it's scary to this day, but it shouldn't be. We are literally speaking about the nature of God, The nature of our living, of our universe and man.

1:36:28BubblemanBut it makes sense, right? Of course, any group that wants to oppose that knowledge becoming mainstream would become the enemy. So when you share that knowledge, right? I mean, a perfect example was the COVID-19 fiasco, right? That was an incredibly perfect reaction because a lot of people did not. They were just like, And it was really, it was a very specific group of people. It was people who were not necessarily supportive of themselves getting the vaccine.

1:37:00BubblemanNot the people that were like, nobody can get vaccines ever, right? Because that was the most militant group on one side. And then on the other side, there was everyone has to get vaccines always. And I, you know, I mean, listen, I, unlike many people, I learned about this stuff like twice. I want to say 30, 35 years ago when my friend, when my business partner and friend, Martin, who is the founder of Fresh Hemp Foods and Manitoba Harvest, he had his first, his wife was giving birth to his first son.

1:37:35BubblemanAnd he asked me, hey, we should go, you should come with me to these, to this vaccine thing I'm going to. I was like a vaccine. I'm like super Winnipeg, Manitoba guy. I don't even know what a vegetarian is at this point in time. He's about to turn me on to that. I was just like, I thought everyone just ate meat and potatoes. I was like, I remember one time I heard my dad eating vegetables at the dinner table and he went, I could be a vegetarian.

1:38:00BubblemanAnd I was like, like seven years old going, what the fuck is a vegetarian? Anyway, I've pretty much been one for 35 years now. But so this gentleman, Martin, was a big inspiration to me and him and his wife were I'm going to be giving birth to their to their first son, Gaia, who's to this day a very good friend of mine. Shout out to Gaia in Manitoba right now.

1:38:23BubblemanAnd anyway, so I go to this. I'm like, what could this possibly be about? He's like, well, it's you know, it's like you got to find out if they're safe. And I'm like, I'm like, doesn't the hospital give them to you? Like, what could be more safe than the hospital giving them to you kind of thing? This is how completely it is unique that when you're ignorant.

1:38:43BubblemanAbout certain things, there's still a washing that is occurring. I still had all of these thoughts about it. And afterwards, I was like, where did those thoughts even come to? Like, how could I know nothing about this, but have all these sort of like, of course, you support vaccines blindly. Like, what do you mean? And so I go to this meeting. And it's all women who have had experiences with vaccines in their children.

1:39:11BubblemanPretty heavy experiences. One woman had actually lost her child after three times going back each time the baby getting paralyzed, like just horrific story. I won't go overly into it. But what I found was that none of them were conspiracy freaks at all. None of them were even against vaccines. What all of them had in common and why they had started this group and were doing these meetings was that they had discovered that the statistics were being manipulated by the doctors and that their vaccine accidents or events that occurred with their children as well as the woman whose child died was not written down or documented.

1:39:56BubblemanYou know, as a vaccine death and that mother could not drop that. Now keep in mind this mother brought the baby in for the first set of vaccines at three months or whatever and got all these vaccines and then the baby was paralyzed and then she brought it back and was exercising and you know brought it back like nine months later and got like a schwack more of these and the baby got even worsely paralyzed.

1:40:18BubblemanSo you can see how in no way shape or form was she like We got to get rid of these vaccines. And I'm not even necessarily saying we have to get rid of vaccines. Personally, not that I believe in them personally, but I certainly would fight for someone's right if they wanted to get it.

1:40:35SpeakerI'll go ahead and say that. And I won't necessarily say it to not trigger any text-based surveillance. But I will say that when my own child came into question, And we educated ourself a decade ago. I saw what you saw. I saw mother after mother. And you probably can't find this video, but in the California courthouse in Sacramento, I saw hundreds of mothers talking about their injured or deceased children.

1:41:03SpeakerAnd that was enough for me to say zero tolerance. But I did follow up and say, is there efficacy? There is no shown efficacy of the these Thank you so much for joining us.

1:41:42SpeakerThe bloodstream of this plastic that was directed directly injected and coagulating and stroking our fathers out and causing all kinds of problems. There's no evidence that it was effective. There is evidence that the body is trying to localize by coagulating and remove it. But because it's not just a lipid covered item, There's no way to break it down. The best hope would be for cholesterol and which they tell you you shouldn't be having and endles and phenols, much like the way that cranberry juice is used to move things and disrupt linings because of the terps and the endles and the phenols.

1:42:33SpeakerOkay. So this mechanism of Dr. Justin Marchegiani, MD, M.D., M.D., M.D., M.D., M.D.

1:42:56SpeakerFaberizing plant-derived terpenes, putting them into contact with the virus, okay? Maybe nicotine, maybe nicotine because it is also a killer, which is why it's used. But we don't need to go past eucalyptus oil, ganja terpenes, because these things are the most gentle non-toxic thing that people should have been commanded to inhale If they felt like they were infected and that there was no speak of that. So maybe there's a problem and a solution and a holy cow.

1:43:36SpeakerStop injecting yourself with Babylon's plastics, please. Holy cow. I'll say it.

1:43:43BubblemanOr if you really want to, by all means, inject yourself with Babylon Plastics. Like to me, I went and did my own research. I felt like when I did this with my buddy, I ended up reading a bunch of good books. I read Ustaz Mullen's Murder by Injection. I read The Medical Mafia by Guylaine Lancelot. I read all these different books and was just like creating. It's interesting because even now, clearly, this is an opinion.

1:44:07BubblemanI have an opinion. I'm sharing an opinion right now. Someone is so upset in the chat room that we're talking about this right now, as it always happens. Funny enough, their name is the rebellion.

1:44:22BubblemanYou're allowed to have opinions. Like I said, that's why, honestly, I know people who got the vaccine and I'm You know, I have nothing against them for getting the vaccine. I just personally did not want to get the vaccine. I never got COVID. I never, you know, I knew. I will say that when they told me it was that the vaccine prevented transmission, that's when I kind of isolated myself from society because I was like, okay, well, whatever.

1:44:50BubblemanI'm not going to go and poison people in case I have it. And then I learned that the vaccine did not prevent transmission. And that kind of pissed me off because I was like, you know, the whole reason I isolated for almost two fucking years from the rest of society was because they had told me this inconsistency, this, you know, basically a lie. And it wasn't the pharma companies that were saying it.

1:45:16BubblemanIt was like the prime minister of our country. It was the president of the United States. It was It was all these different sort of world leaders that were saying it prevented transmission, which I guess made it easy to add the old vaccine passport into Canada, where if you didn't have this little passport, you couldn't really go around. It is what it is. Most of the people I know did not, I'm not arguing with, We're not arguing with experts, the rebellion.

1:45:45BubblemanI should probably stop focusing on him. He's pulling my attention, as the negative often does. I don't know why that is.

1:45:52SpeakerI think the experts recently cited that one in 12.5 boys in California are being diagnosed with autism, California having the most aggressive vaccine schedule. Which why it is almost double other states. But one in 12 boys are being diagnosed. That's almost 10%. This is insane. It's that I think that we can start to point to some science. Look at these world travelers, jet setters. On the train.

1:46:29SpeakerI bet they're not injecting any plastics.

1:46:32BubblemanOh, they're big proponents of the vaccine, actually. Don't get them started.

1:46:38SpeakerOh yeah, we love it, you know.

1:46:43SpeakerNo, we're actually in Czech right now, and we just got back from the Conopex conference, and we're taking a train across... Czesko. Yeah, Czesko.

1:46:55Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThat's what they call it, or Czeska Republika.

1:46:58SpeakerYeah.

1:46:58Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineOr Czech Republic.

1:47:00SpeakerAnd it's been really amazing. We were at the Calix Cup and Marcus, you were very much so missed. You really, really were very missed.

1:47:08BubblemanI would have loved to have been there next time. Next time.

1:47:10SpeakerYeah. Yeah.

1:47:13BubblemanCome and hang out with the international community. Proximo tiempo.

1:47:19Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, that's amazing. And in the area of Czech Republic, where it was called Moravia, and Moravia is in the east, and it's just not too far from Krakow, Poland, and not too far from Slovakia. And it's a really nature loving place where a lot of people love to grow gardens and Some of the few people in the Czech that can even grow weed outdoors and the weather's nicer in eastern Czech than it is in western so it's sunnier and nicer and also the town of Ostrava is this crazy industrial town where it's almost like UNESCO industrial where it's like ancient technology fucking coal mine metal working like Eastern Block, just crazy spot.

1:48:14SpeakerYeah, and we are on our train back to Prague, and then we're going to be going to ICBC tomorrow morning, and we're going to be in Berlin, and that's going to be really great. And yeah, anyone in Canada who is looking to get things out to the rest of the world, definitely get in touch with us, and we'll set you up. People. So we're really trying to make real personal connections that are going to be people to people for real.

1:48:44SpeakerAnd that feels really, really good. So we're making some real waves as well with with just some great buyers here and doing a lot of education about real medicine.

1:48:57Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineBeautiful. And Also, there's a lot of reputation out here that Canada is just dumping shit weed on the world.

1:49:09BubblemanThat's because Canada dumped a bunch of shit weed on the world. It is true, man. They did it for like two years straight, draining out their vaults, sending Australia, anyone that would buy it. Now there's people who have been sending beautiful flower. Blame Canada. Yeah, yeah, we're easy to blame, dude. Blame us. It was definitely happening, though. There's no doubt about it that people were, you know, it's a way to get rid of low quality material out of the vault.

1:49:39BubblemanThere's less of that happening because they've become smarter purchasers.

1:49:45Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineVery much so true. And Canada is the only place in the world that has bulk weed to begin with. So someone's got to do it. If America was there, then they'd be sending shit weed everywhere too. But anyway, we have an opportunity to work with, you know, the best living soil and organic growers of British Columbia and Canada and bring that to the world. And we are hearing that a lot more of that is being requested.

1:50:10Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSo that's something we're very interested in.

1:50:14BubblemanWell, did we get them all lost there?

1:50:35SpeakerComfortable moments of silence. We're all in that train. Yeah, we're all in that. In the train towers. I think most of us would prefer Josh and Kelly's silence over our own noises. Totally agreed. A moment of silence. That's so cool. I wonder if they're going to visit Alex in, was it Slovakia or Slovenia?

1:51:01BubblemanNo, they're going to go visit Alex in Berlin because Alex, I'm surprised they're not going to the Talman House event, which is happening today at the Adelon Hotel, which is right next to the Brandenburg Right next to the park and all the, what do they call it? Embassies, the UK and the US embassy are right there as well. So that's tonight. And then tomorrow and the next day is his ICBC.

1:51:24BubblemanSo he has three events, three days of events happening over the course of the next two days. And that's where they're going right now. So yeah, Alex is... Well, definitely. Well, he's in Berlin right now, guaranteed, because he has his Talman event tonight at the Adelan Hotel, which I will say is always worth going to because that place has the most epic grotto pool in the basement.

1:51:48BubblemanIt's like this crazy like cherubim angels on the walls and like pillars.

1:51:52SpeakerI stayed there. And when I was in Berlin, there was a Christian jubilee happening. All the hostels, all the places were booked. So I was forced to stay at this beautiful hotel. And that grotto, Greek bath, whatever it is, was so mind blowing and made me feel very cool for one night. You know, that is spectacular.

1:52:21BubblemanYeah, I have photos of it. I'm going to kind of try and see if I can, if you guys get chatting, I'll see if I can kind of maybe find some of them. I got to find.

1:52:31SpeakerSeemed like a lifetime ago. I was traveling with my little brother. Great family in Leipzig and München, saw Lee Scratch Perry outside the city walls of Leipzig. Very familial kind of shanty town vibe outside of the German city. So much good reggae, so much good worship, worship of jaw music. Burning Spear in Firenze, Who else? A Bob Marley, South Sud African, Bob Marley cover band outside the clay pot piles of Rome.

1:53:18SpeakerActually got to see, who's the Beatle? Paul McCartney in front of the Coliseo. The big corso leading up to the Coliseum had about a half a million people with a sound system set up. He actually had done a concert in the Coliseum the night before for probably a million dollar ticket. But the music in Europe and the accessibility and the way that the culture keeps it alive is fantastic.

1:53:51SpeakerI wonder if Josh, I saw Josh.

1:53:53Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI saw Josh early backstage.

1:53:55SpeakerYeah, we're here.

1:53:59Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThey just banned alcohol for children in France in 1956. And before that, they used to give them up to four glasses of wine a day in school.

1:54:13Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThat was probably a good idea.

1:54:14SpeakerMight have helped. They stayed in their seats more often.

1:54:20BubblemanLittle hammerheads.

1:54:22SpeakerNo acting up with that.

1:54:24BubblemanJust all rocking cirrhosis at 23. Damn.

1:54:27SpeakerHey, tolerance by the time you hit five, you know.

1:54:36BubblemanIt's funny. I'm sure that there was probably a time where if you said anything bad about alcohol, people would flip out on you.

1:54:41Etienne FontanWhat do you mean alcohol's good? They said a glass of wine a day is good for you.

1:54:47SpeakerDid they though?

1:54:51SpeakerI mean, I'm from the generation where they would run whiskey on the gums for teething. So they start you young. Yeah, it works. Not a good idea, but it works.

1:55:08SpeakerThat's what I really appreciate being able to. Pop on and join the conversation. I think, oh my gosh, Adam, just the knowledge that you have. I need to figure out a way to contact you and have a little bit more conversation because I want to learn some more of those words that you were saying.

1:55:26BubblemanIf you blow smoke towards the Vatican on a Sunday evening, Adam will fly. Does it have to be white smoke or dark smoke? Well, it can be unflushed, I suppose.

1:55:41SpeakerAdam's not going to judge. Calling things what they are. These aren't big words. There's no such thing as big words. There's just words and ganja and God's garden. And these things are very powerful when you start calling things what they are. Even the terpenes are alcohol, but it's the micro amounts that we need of them that make things move in our body. And so replenishing people's ability to produce them themselves is awesome.

1:56:09SpeakerI will find all ears on that education there. I want to learn what these words are. I want to learn how to use them the right way. And I want to learn what to avoid. And, you know, stuff like this, these conversations are what opens up those little rabbit holes. So I'm really appreciative of it. I am going to cut out of hash church though. So I just want to say thank you so much though for that conversation.

1:56:31SpeakerAnd Bunker as well, what you're doing is incredible. Seriously. Completely blow my mind, man. Thank you so much. I'm going to jump off too. Thank you, Marcus, for the invite. I super appreciate it. I always love coming out here and like absolutely blow my mind on this episode. This is one that I'm going to have to go back and watch. Well, thanks for hanging out. Yeah, thanks for having me.

1:56:51SpeakerAnd I'm sure I'll be back. I'm sure we'll talk again. But I still appreciate these conversations.

1:56:57BubblemanAbsolutely. Have a good one, guys. Thank you so much. Always good to chat with the Spartans.

1:57:05SpeakerI have a question for Adam. Adam, where are you located? Up north, California? Correct. And I do believe we met once before at maybe an event because I would push out into the Bay Area. I did a lot of work in LA in the Bay Area. But for 20 years, I moved from Berkeley up till Trinity County, which is the unspoken highlands of the Emerald Triangle, about two hours east of Arcata.

1:57:30SpeakerI moved with a beautiful woman and our little wolf pack out to some Uh, you know, undeveloped 30 acres that was an old 1800s homestead. So it exists in the middle of the Trinity National Forest, truly off grid at 3,200 foot elevation. And, um, yeah, Trinity County, this, this isolated space, which really taught me that the diversity, the purity is what renders the resin that feels holographic, that feels like it.

1:58:07SpeakerAaron Weissman, Dean of Students, Dean of Students, Dean of Students, Dean of Students, Dean of Students, Dean of Students, Dean of Students, Dean of Students,

1:58:26SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

1:58:41SpeakerYeah, yeah, that's it's amazing how small this world is or this community, right? But yeah, you look familiar and you're in the best place, man. I mean, are you in Southern California? I was going to say, I mean, the dry desert part, you're in the beautiful forest. The area of California. Trying to explain so much that the people who really pushed regulation in California, the harbor sides and people.

1:59:07SpeakerAnd again, I was serving the Bay Area community, the medical community, Dennis Perrone. This was my family, direct to patient, but also working with some of the providers. And I visited ATN's shop. So The Bay Area, the need of the patient trumping what over anything anyone else was saying was very important to me. But people, me visiting Salinas, me visiting these lowlands where agriculture has historically been done in California, and watching the biplanes dust the fields unnecessarily, watching the guys in full Tyvek suits Poison the grapes in the middle of Napa, the town of Napa at midnight with lights looking like ET government scientists.

2:00:05SpeakerIt blows your mind when you actually drive the land, you look at the setting, you realize that what is being broadcast, Whether it's healthy mycorrhizae or toxic poison, it's going to, in the watersheds, accumulate, which is why the rice, which is why even the government suggests you don't eat more than one serving of rice a week in California because of the arsenic. It's why, and I'll just a little, Alex Dixon, he points to the legacy and the way that they can mark where products are coming from just by the assessment of toxic chemicals that they read.

2:00:50SpeakerHe knows exactly where they came from. So this toxic legacy, and if we could incentivize California to say, we have a zero tolerance policy on our medicine, We must produce it without the poison. It would instantly incentivize people to elevate possibly their location, but at least their practices to really serve people. And Yeah, I just much, very much an advocate for this of like, a little bit of elevation will give you a perspective that, oh, purity is possible.

2:01:30SpeakerAnd we just need to align with what the universe is trying to accomplish.

2:01:34BubblemanIt's a triple entendre to elevate.

2:01:38SpeakerIt goes with gravity and everything we're talking about because Southern California is all the way at the bottom. So everything gets dumped and goes slowly to the end. So what he's saying is true. And the other part is that this land is not arid anymore. And they're pumping all this stuff to keep producing. So for example, when I drink wine in California, I cannot drink wine in California.

2:02:01SpeakerI get sick for the next two days. And I I haven't been able to figure out what it is that causes me to feel so sick. But there's definitely something going on with me and the wine in California I cannot take. But I go and drink a lot. What do you think? 100% of wine in California tests for glyphosate. Yeah. Horrible. I can't. And my body just, it's so sensitive.

2:02:28SpeakerIt just feels it right away. I feel it going down, you know, and I don't get that with any other wine. And my grass here, for example, you know, I'm going to have to Break everything apart, put new earth because just the earth underneath is sand. And that's what we have in Southern California. When you go up to the mountains where you are, you realize the perspective you're looking at from the top to the bottom.

2:02:54SpeakerLike what you said, the metaphor is, yeah, you see the diversity that becomes when you're in a place that it's arid, that has trees, that has nature, that is naturally growing, that doesn't have sprinklers all over to keep things green. And that's when you realize, you know, the difference between North and South California.

2:03:20SpeakerThey're in between towers again. Yeah. It's amazing. And it is opportunity. We should be able to terraform. You know, Biodome failed because they did it wrong. We should be able to terraform Southern California. Okay, they're back. Do we got you guys live? We want to hear Kelly. Okay, awesome. Sorry about that. Hey, Adam, I was just wanting to address how you were talking about effects. And we feel like effects are absolutely, totally imperative in the conversation.

2:03:49SpeakerAnd we've been judging cups, you know, 20 years or 15 years, all the back home ones, all the way to the real formal ones. And when you come over into Europe and a lot of the cups that are quick, their effect is actually not even part of the judging, which to me is really kooky. It needs to be the first thing that we're talking about. You know, how is it that it makes you feel?

2:04:16SpeakerIt really talks about appearance, smell, taste, and then burn. Thank you so much for joining us today.

2:04:51SpeakerWhenever we're rating cannabis at all.

2:04:54Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd I would say that you should probably smoke six doobies before you start judging just to kind of level yourself out. You know what I mean? Before you start. But anyway, also, it's interesting about Salinas because of that battery fire that happened just between Monterey and Santa Cruz. There was the largest battery fire, lithium battery fire in the world. And all the smoke, all the smoke from the lithium battery fire.

2:05:25Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI think it's called some, oh man, Moss Landing. It's called Moss Landing in California on the beach. The whole entire cloud of lithium went to Salinas. It wasn't enough.

2:05:41SpeakerAnd you don't do that. Who lives here?

2:05:48SpeakerThat's the worst. I mean, forest fires are one thing. When you're burning plastics, when they're burning down LA, these are things. I mean, I had a little, I fought a little small house fire once for a few minutes, and that effect I had of just the plywood or the borax, and again, I build with only

2:06:14SpeakerI felt those effects so intensely. And so yeah, the combustion of these very novel synthetic things. Yep. We got to quit shooting ourselves in the foot. And it's an opportunity. We should be able to, we're worried about terraforming Mars. It's like we need to, we have such an opportunity now to, I don't know, let's do crazy things like cover the LA River or that water that runs from Northern California down to LA with solar panels so that evaporation is less.

2:06:56SpeakerAnd let's do some intelligent things to take the carbons that maybe the fire, We're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to have a lot of fun.

2:07:31SpeakerIt's just we need to have that conversation. We need to convince the people that are spending the billions of dollars to burn down the forests in California preventatively to, hey, let's take that carbon and mechanically sequester it and We've got some sovereign Canadian earth.

2:08:13SpeakerWe've got a lot going on right now. And just that idea that like we could be building products with what, you know, we're just gassing off into the atmosphere haphazardly.

2:08:25BubblemanWell, there's no doubt about the fact that California is an incredible state and it's just, you know, the mass and the diversity and everything that's going on in that state. It's true. You'd think that everyone that lived in it would just be like, let's figure this out and keep as Dr. David Allen would say, let's keep the carpetbaggers out. The guys that just come in, make money and bounce with the money.

2:08:48BubblemanIt's such a powerful state. I mean, just from the perspective of cannabis, I've always considered California to be the center of the cannabis universe. You know, not that cannabis, no, I really have a lot of the influence at ATN that came up here to the Kootenays and that started all of our, just from being around in an early time. The people I met from California, you know, you've got Dave Watson who came from California and did all that breeding and all of the sifting and the water extraction and like just You can tie, you can follow a lot of things in the cannabis industry back to California is all I'm saying.

2:09:27BubblemanAnd it was endless. It just kept happening. And in particular, when I was doing my lawsuit for the water extraction patents with Reinhard Delp, I was learning absolutely as much as I possibly could. Even Reinhard Delp, who was Swiss, lived in California. Like it just always went back to California. So that's why I always thought that ATN, but you're welcome to... Oh, I think Fletcher's coming in to like disagree with me.

2:09:55Etienne FontanWell, it's interesting coming from I'm not from I'm not a native Californian. I'm from Louisiana. You know, I lived in I've lived in California for 30 plus years. So, you know, when we were out and about, really, I mean, being honest, you know, yes. California has its process. But back in the 90s and such, we looked toward Canada. Y'all were sending us beasters and things like that that we couldn't get quality Green cannabis, we could get all the brown Coca-Cola, Southern Mexico, you know, stuff that you don't want to smoke.

2:10:35Etienne FontanYou wouldn't give to a patient. It would fail molds and mildews first off, much less you're lucky if the potency was 1% to 2% THC. You know, due to the Mohawk and, you know, Tribe and all the things that, you know, were happening in Canada, getting cannabis to us here in North America. Yeah, I will say California has its influence, but, you know, we have to give a certain nod to Canada here, especially during Prohibition.

2:11:04Etienne FontanBut yes, California cannabis has been known worldwide. Historically, there's a lot of people from here. Hell, it drew me here and kept me here. And, you know, I can't deny, I'm proud of the influence we've had. But don't discount Canada. And there's other, you know, we also look to the Netherlands, right? Because we didn't have coffee shops. I didn't enjoy freedom until 95. I was sitting in a coffee shop in a window and a cop walked by.

2:11:33Etienne FontanAnd I looked at my, you know, my wife at the time, I was like, wow, how fucking cool is that? You know, and of course, you know, Doug and those guys were like, oh, don't go outside and smoke that joint. But, you know, on this side of the, you know, it still gave us a taste of freedom that we know we did not have here in the United States without hiding or to show a joint or light a joint in front of a cop, you know, that was...

2:11:59Etienne FontanThe quickest ticket to, you know, being arrested. So I'm not discounting California's influence, but I just wanted to also give a shout out to the other spaces that we look to and toward that were leading the way and that we built up towards because if it hadn't been for those influences, I'm not sure we are where we are now.

2:12:20BubblemanNo, and I feel you, and I certainly wasn't trying to discount them as much as just saying, like, even Amsterdam, like, okay, let's talk about Amsterdam. How did Amsterdam happen? Oh, wasn't it a bunch of guys from California that brought a bunch of genetics there? Where did old Ed come from? Where did Dave Watson come from? Where did all these characters that came to Amsterdam, even back in the 80s, which led to a lot of those seeds?

2:12:46BubblemanYeah. Interesting. Just a perspective.

2:12:49SpeakerAnd part of it's like there's called part of it. Oh, sorry. Part of its culture. It's like the culture that supports it is, is there music happening that might attract some minds towards the area? Is there culture that can be built upon and also just what is incentivized, you know? Thank you so much for joining us.

2:13:37Archive SeedsYeah, one thing I wanted to say is just kind of with regard to kind of like the history and where things came from and influence all these different areas. I mean, I think at the end of the day, California was really just the it was kind of the repository. It's where everything kind of ended up because it had the biggest market and all these other factors. But genetics came from all over the world.

2:14:01Archive SeedsI mean, the best weed, the best everything. There is where the best grower is. It doesn't matter if you're in Antarctica. If you got an indoor room and you're doing your selections and putting in the work, then you may be the next biggest thing. You know, I think that like, of course, Sam with Skunk One and Hayes had a massive influence and that was a California bred variety.

2:14:24Archive SeedsBut then you've got Northern Lights, which is arguably as influential, if not more so because of the Prevalence of indoor cultivation because of prohibition. That's probably one of the main reasons why it became as popular as it did. And for the time it was, and that was also the early 80s that that was being done and proliferated in this area. And then you look at California. I mean, how many of California's most popular varieties are actually a variety from somewhere else?

2:14:55Archive SeedsSour Diesel, OG Kush, you name it. They're all from other places. Florida, New York, Vermont, Washington, Oregon, all these other places. It just ended up in California because that was the first place that you could really go blow it out. You know, so everything almost all ended up in California at one point in time or another. But I wouldn't necessarily give California and its residents all the credit.

2:15:20BubblemanNo, I don't think so. But like you said, it's like I said, I've I always thought of it as the center. You probably made a better name with the depository. It all ended up there, whether it was from there or not. You know, the Hayes brothers importing and bringing in flowers from all these different countries. Like you named a bunch of places where shit came from, but you forgot Mexico, Colombia, Jamaica, Thailand.

2:15:46BubblemanYou know, all of these other countries that the hash and flavors were coming from as well. It was the depository. No matter where it came from, it all seemed to end up in California. And California seemed to be the place that also would send it all out more effectively than all of the places that sent it there in the first place. And you're right. There's very, very few that actually, you know, Thank you so much for joining us.

2:16:38Archive SeedsBy some local growers or local breeders to get to where Northern Lights and all these things are today. You don't just pop some land-raised seeds and get selected Northern Lights that's improved from it. I've popped hundreds or thousands of, well, depending on the varieties, but thousands across many different land-raised varieties and never gotten anything I've gotten plenty of things I can work with and improve upon, but nothing that just straight out the field is competitive.

2:17:12Archive SeedsInteresting.

2:17:13SpeakerI've had a little different experience with that where, and it might just be my small But just find that the diversity of the seeds, it's like just basically present diversity to the world and it knows how to figure it out where I've seen this improvement of rather unintentional breeding that just keeps giving me maybe a, I have two lines going. What comes from Kaya's Coffee via the Northwestern Roots folks, Dragonfly Earth Medicine family.

2:17:45SpeakerSo I got a coffee that, which is the sweet skunk, which is delicious and psychedelic, very heady, very powerful. Reminds me of Skunk Man Sam, all of this, these really benefits to it. And then a caryophylline dominant, maybe granddaddy perp, We've got a lot of people that are leaning green, green goddess, green crack, very upbeat, very called the spice melange. And so these two pronounced flavors seem to be taking what exists here and improve upon it.

2:18:20SpeakerMaybe not too much experience grabbing genetics and seeing if they'll do well, but somehow over 20 years have strengthened themselves through the diversity and maybe not so much attention from me. We're talking strains. Yeah.

2:19:05BubblemanWhat's your favorite strain, Chimera? Usually my ankle, when I roll my ankle.

2:19:15Collin PalmerOh my god, that was good.

2:19:17BubblemanThat was really good. Fucking right. Altavar! Population! Phenotype!

2:19:26BubblemanSo yeah.

2:19:29BubblemanFletch had a good idea last week. He reached out to me. He was like, we got to do a little like an interview with Rob on his book, Hashish. It would be cool. And I reached out to Mojave and sort of mentioned, you know, Rob is overwhelmed by large panels. He suggested possibly a very small panel and a Q&A. And so Fletch and I are going to lead that.

2:19:55BubblemanI'm just going to have Ryan come in as well. And Mojave. And just go hard on the hashish questionnaire. So Rob has been kind enough to be accepting of such an option. And we'll probably try to organize it here. And I would say sometime in May, which is a great time. The spring is springing. And yeah, we'll have Rob on and do a little Q&A. And, you know, Fletch had this very same idea with Sam, probably about a year before Sam passed.

2:20:28BubblemanI know. It was just so unfortunate the way it all played out, but we won't miss Rob. We'll make sure that, you know, and I think of this for a lot of these guys, Fred Gardner and Dr. David Allen, and just all sorts of these SOMA characters that are just getting older and still have good stories to share. Rob, obviously, historic stories, right? I mean, he was there.

2:20:53BubblemanFor a lot of it and the writing of the books, Marijuana Botany and Hashish for that matter, just tons of great.

2:21:01SpeakerAnd Ecology, right? Like there was that whole book before Marijuana Botany and then his work at like a lot of people don't know about him attending University of Indiana. Right. And studying at Marburg's lab. So we got to get the stories out of all that stuff and how he left there to come over and work at hoarder farm. And there's all sorts of interesting stuff that Rob doesn't really talk about.

2:21:26BubblemanI know it's, you gotta, we gotta, we gotta make sure we, we plan well with the questions and the, and the sort of flow of, of the interview.

2:21:37SpeakerBut he's got, yeah, he's got all the, it's like, you know, like everybody, he's got all the facts. And, you know, Rob is very much someone that is always about the facts and the plant. But, you know, he doesn't tell, it's not, he doesn't tell the story about how he was involved with those things. He kind of like, you know, he always puts himself kind of behind the curtain.

2:21:57SpeakerSo it'd be nice to get him to tell us a story about how he came, you know, even just the story of meeting David and how he ended up at Indiana and how he ended up over in In Amsterdam after that, I mean, it's all really interesting stuff.

2:22:14Archive SeedsIt really is. And I think it I think it may inspire some people. I mean, the books alone inspired me. I think that one thing that, you know, we as kind of a culture and what Sam and Rob and they they did is when this industry was still in its infancy, like kind of even before the the modern financial benefits Thank you for joining us.

2:22:54Archive SeedsAnd having that information done in a very scientific and well done, even to this day manner, really set the stage, in my opinion, for the people that really care about cannabis. In fact, it even gave the people that don't care about cannabis Thank you so much for joining us.

2:23:35Archive SeedsHow much of that information would even still be, like, how much that would be a part of the fabric of our culture?

2:23:45BubblemanYeah.

2:23:46SpeakerWell, it would have been, I mean, you can only go so far with, hey man, let's get high, smoke my skull bong. Right? Like, I mean. Graphics, bro. Yeah. What do you mean, man? They opened up the whole... I mean, I always go back to the slogan of the International Hemp Association, and that was David and Rob's baby, right? Like, the advancement of cannabis through the dissemination of information.

2:24:15SpeakerAnd, you know, even just to take, just to understand the power behind that mission statement, right, is that they understood that, like, You can't keep something down when it's about information. And bringing that mentality of using science and real investigation to studying the plant is going to reveal truths that are undeniable. And we can talk about the effects on culture and recreational use and all that kind of stuff, but when it comes to medical use, it's why we have legalization in all these countries.

2:24:59SpeakerOnce you have a medical system and you see, you know, society sees that people are having these real benefits from this plant, that it wasn't just people making it up. And at the same time that also these people aren't going insane or causing all this drama or craziness in society, right? Like the whole story that was being fed to us by the government was a lie.

2:25:22Etienne FontanSo I think that the

2:25:27Speakerthe the fact that they that they understood that and they that just allowing the truth and scientific inquiry into the plant would bring us into this whole new world and they created the system so that we could do that right so that they could they could do that and in doing so they opened up a path right like they they walked that first they were they were they were cutting through They were forging the trail, right?

2:25:56SpeakerThey were cutting the path. But it opened a path for an entire generation of all of us to come and walk down behind them.

2:26:02BubblemanYeah, it makes it so much easier.

2:26:04SpeakerYeah, well, yeah. And, I mean, they taught us what to do. I mean, it's not even just the science. It's like, hey, guys, here's how to use the science. They also gave us, like, oh, here's how to make the best hash.

2:26:17BubblemanThe beautiful thing about those guys as well was that, and I didn't realize this when I first kind of came across them, You know, I had met Rob in 95, I believe, sort of accidentally. He didn't definitely not know who I was. I wouldn't meet him again for a few more years through Hillary. But I had seen Dave in 94 in BC at the Hemp Symposium that they threw here back then.

2:26:45BubblemanI believe it was 94. And I just knew immediately, like, these guys were... They were the truth. They had this mystique about them that tons of people were talking shit about them, which right away, you know, all these guys have some universal truths in their back pocket or something because everyone's talking shit about them. And it was just an interesting thing that what you could do with those guys is if you read their information and you applied it and executed and created something with it, they would reach out to you and they would befriend you.

2:27:19BubblemanAnd you wouldn't even know what was happening, but that's definitely how I met Dave. That's how it played out.

2:27:27SpeakerYeah, me too. Me too, right? It was through writing on something online. And, you know, through you, David reached out to me. And, yeah, it's... I mean, talk about...

2:27:46SpeakerTalk about mentorship, right? Like, talk about being so dedicated to the cause or to a cause that you find and you teach people from the up and coming generation, right? Because you're so passionate about it that you don't want all this knowledge that they've acquired over their time. Thank you so much for joining us.

2:28:32SpeakerGood example of what that kind of relationship can be, right? Which is why I have the ultimate respect for David and Rob. I mean, it was just so selfless and so, you know, done with such integrity. Really such quality people.

2:28:51BubblemanI'll tell you, that's why for decades it was always just an honor. Like if Rob invited me up to his apartment, I'd be like, this is an honor. Go to Dave's apartment. I'd be like, this is an honor. It was crazy because both of them very, very private in their own right. You know, Dave not wanting his photo taken, not wanting those two worlds to collide in any way.

2:29:14BubblemanAnd it was an important factor that he understood that if he allowed it to happen, It would breach the integrity of the work that he was trying to do on this side. And that's why he didn't allow it to happen. Rob was just as an author, so not outspoken, so not interested in going on overgrow, so not interested in like, you know, Rob's a traveler. He's a nomad.

2:29:35BubblemanHe always loved to travel and, you know, His ability to move freely through borders was extremely important to him and he wasn't interested in mucking that up by having a picture of him, you know, puffing on a big fatty or something. So I was always very respectful that, you know, the photos that I did get of Dave over the years, which really were just vacation photos and, you know, not necessarily event photos and of Rob for that matter.

2:30:03BubblemanI just, I never, I never shared or promoted and I always felt bad Because I felt like those guys were, they needed to be, I mean, that's why a big part of Hash Church was to give a platform for guys like that, particularly for Dave. To be like, man, you have so much information and I know you're willing to give it because I see how passionate you are.

2:30:25BubblemanI see you on LinkedIn posting and wherever he can find places to post, he would. And so, you know, that's one of the things we can certainly do here at Hash Church is invite the Fred Gardeners and the The Rob Clarks, the sort of the OGs of our community and industry to come on and share, you know, their truths and their stories.

2:30:50SpeakerFred is another, Fred is another that you could do like weeks worth of episodes of him talking. I mean, he, he came in, you know, he used to work for the, he was like work for the, the The mayor's office in San Francisco. He was actually originally, he was the editor of Scientific American Magazine. Right. And he ended up being the spokesperson for the mayor's office right around the time where Dennis Perron was doing, you know, trying to open the clubs in, you know, in like early 90s, height of the AIDS epidemic.

2:31:24SpeakerAnd he started going to these ICRS meetings. And he knew, I mean, he met everyone from David to Ethan to, you know, Muhammad El-Soli to Meshulam and like, you know, what's the guy, Gabriel Nahas, right? Like Nancy Reagan's favorite drug guy.

2:31:49Etienne FontanWe have to hiss every time we hear Gabriel Nahas. It's like a Rocky Horror Picture Show sort of thing.

2:31:54SpeakerYeah, well, he was the ultimate in evil, right? And he was not evil, but anti-cannabis. And so they were going to these ICRS meetings back when they used to call it like, you know, it was like them, the stoners versus the piss testers. And half the international association, this conference, this congress that they had, half of it was like the National Institute of Health, right? And all of their studies were mandated to show that cannabis was harmful, right?

2:32:23Speakerum and then you had the real pure scientists that were just trying to show the truth right and so even that organization was kind of split down the middle and uh but you know fred got to know everybody in that world and he's really quite an academic mind And he created what people might remember as O'Shaughnessy's or the Journal for Cannabis Clinicians in California. And it's named after O'Shaughnessy was the gentleman that brought cannabis indica back from India to the UK or to England at the time.

2:32:58SpeakerAnd really reintroduced it to the Western world, right? And so the amount of contributions to that magazine, you know, I mean, David contributed and Rob contributed under a pseudonym.

2:33:13BubblemanAnd David Allen wrote articles for David Allen.

2:33:17SpeakerOK, that's cool. And so did John McPartland. He used to publish as a Dr. X. So there's all these people that were like contributing and sharing articles to Ashana Seas. And Fred was, you know, very quietly, like kind of caught up in the whole middle of it. And because he was the former editor, like I said, for Scientific American and spokesman for a period of time for the, I believe it was the mayor's office of San Francisco.

2:33:47SpeakerHe had an ability to meet with these people and talk with these people on like this kind of different level where he wasn't just one of the stoners. Right. And he's just so well connected in that whole California scene. I mean, he's really just a really interesting guy. And I think he's got so much to offer. You know, I think it would be great if you'd have him on for because, dude, you could fill up hours and hours and hours of things that he would teach us.

2:34:23SpeakerRight, you know, I mean, Etienne, you and I went up with some, you know, the stories, the level of quality of Fred's information. I mean, it's just absolutely top notch. And he helped me understand a lot of the historical context of the things that we understand, right? How they tie together, who was associated with who, and why things happened. And yeah, any show that you want to do with Fred, I will do my best to come on and be part of, because I just, I think he's such a great guy.

2:34:52Etienne FontanWell, I just added them. Along that line, kind of, I was the PTSD in Dr. Grinspoon's Marijuana, the Forbidden Medicine, which was published in 96. He told us, because of the time and that, our names were not put On the chapters that we wrote, he thanked us in the foreword, but because of how prohibition was at the time, he was fearful that we as authors of our own medicinal output would become possible targets because we would be outed that way.

2:35:32Etienne FontanSo that's just another way that the academics and those that came before us Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

2:36:07SpeakerI think harm reduction and patient welfare is the question, is the prime question. If a ganja proponent is educating, should that come into question over what the medical system is doing? Is harm reduction, is patient welfare, And is the Hippocratic oath that doctors take of do no harm and food is thy medicine, are those proponents being upheld? So it's almost like turning that mirror around and saying, it is you that should say I am and not be in this defensive position of sharing a non-toxic information-laden pursuit versus the practices of Dr. David Art, M.D.

2:37:04Speaker: Well, I just added.

2:37:22BubblemanFred on Facebook. I had no contact to Fred. Sometimes I don't gain contact to people and it's weird, but I can give you his emails.

2:37:31Etienne FontanI have his contacts. He doesn't go through there. He's 81. So he doesn't really check stuff much and often. So email is really the best. So I'll pass those along to you.

2:37:42BubblemanPerfect. Thank you, Etienne. And then we'll try to organize. That's the other thing. It's a matter of if he has the time, you know, if it can be a priority for him, like you, like a chance as he's 81, he's probably living his life and got things to do. But if he wants to share any time with us, we will owe so respectively and happily do that and make sure we do our homework.

2:38:05BubblemanSo we come to the table with some good, proper, you know, a lot of times hash churches, a lot of times, 99% of times it's very organic and open. I'm not opposed to creating structure and creating questions and creating sort of pathways through conversations. It's just an enormous amount of work to do alone. So anytime someone on the panel wants to curate or organize a show like that, I'm happy to do it with you.

2:38:32BubblemanAnd that's why I thank Fletch recently for reaching out and others who have as well. We've done shows from other folks, different ideas that people have had. Caleb came up with that music event and we had the sports medicine episode and hopefully we can still do sooner than later the compassion episode. We're thinking about you all the time, Wade. I know that when you don't make it, you're probably having a pretty rough day and so we're definitely thinking about you.

2:39:06SpeakerWell, on that note of Wade, I mean, the topics are interesting and But these people have made such an impact on our culture, Wade, David, Rob, Fred, all of them, right? And it's interesting talking about the things that they've done, but to me, it's more interesting in getting to know them and their stories and how they played a role, right? What Wade shares is literally his voice.

2:39:37SpeakerIt shouldn't be understated, the vibration, You know, the vibrations that people can make lean towards music. And a lot of Wade's healing isn't in the necessarily even the beautiful content content, but in hearing him. And so that's why we all want him to be invited and show up because he he gives a lot of healing with just even speaking his message. His his his name is a healing word.

2:40:09SpeakerTo paraphrase Dune.

2:40:14SpeakerLaughter.

2:40:20BubblemanOh, super relum. Let's talk Q-tip waste. My old lady says I'm a gross polluter and I should be ashamed. Fifteen hundred and three months.

2:40:29SpeakerHilarious. Cotton. Come on. We got to have something to return to the compost bin.

2:40:35BubblemanYeah, well, I use the wood and cotton ones from Globbers. I'm also guilty, but... Put them in the compost bin. Regenerative.

2:40:48SpeakerThis is a regenerative stock. We should focus on growing more. I am interested in seed production. We talked about this in terms of genetics and specific things being shared. But can we push it to the other end of the spectrum where, you know, even like 25 pounds of grass seed costs 150 bucks these days, which makes greening up our world around us kind of cost prohibitive. Can we get hemp or THC rich ganja to the point where We proliferate and propagate the seeds to where people and governmental institutions doing forestry and soil building and fire management can broadcast this thing that grows rapidly, sequesters much carbon, produces a usable crop, but at very least can be underturned mechanically and build the soil over time.

2:41:54SpeakerIs there... Basically what I'm saying is what's the cost of seed? Is there anything we can do to bring that down so that institutions are incentivized to green up the earth with it?

2:42:08Archive SeedsIt's already a penny a seed or less if you want hemp seed or bulk you know low THC or I mean high THC seed you can find either or for As cheaper than you can get licensed corn seed for your field.

2:42:23SpeakerAnd this is amazing. Even as an enzyme rich sprouted feed for cattle and livestock. I mean, I don't know if you'll be able to.

2:42:34Archive SeedsI don't know if you'll be able to get enough mass from cannabis seeds per acre that it makes a great feed. I'm not saying it doesn't. I just don't know. But I know that seeds are definitely cheap enough that you could seed You know, million acres if you wanted to for probably cheaper than most ag crops.

2:42:52SpeakerI mean, it's not making good news. And I was speaking of the feed of like, if you can sprout a barrel of hemp seed, you know, you get little one inch sprouts and then you pour that into the trough. That's like a very enzyme rich, good food preparation for all things. So not necessarily even the, you know, I'm sure even, You know, 10-inch tall sprouts would be a good forage, but... Ryan, you probably know better.

2:43:22SpeakerA penny a seed, I wasn't aware, is that inexpensive even. Yeah, well, the wholesale market is for... Someone was asking me about supplying seeds here in Europe. And the wholesale cost of seed is so little now. Like, you know, 5 euro cents people are asking for seeds. And it's just like, you can't, the development, like at that price, there's no development budget, right? And what they've done is they've commoditized the seed itself.

2:43:55SpeakerIt's not even about the plant that comes out of the seed. It's just, do you have a commodity seed, right? And for something like you're talking about for Cress, it's probably not a bad thing, but if we're going to optimize plants for like carbon sequestration and massive root systems, that's real breeding, right? And the last thing that someone that's doing real breeding wants to hear is, oh, by the way, you have to make it so the seeds are a penny a piece, right?

2:44:23SpeakerLike, it's just, it's like, you can't justify putting in the research and development budget when you can't, you know, generate a return from it.

2:44:32Archive SeedsI mean, but... Failed, like, big cultivations can justify it at a penny a seed, though. And that's why they're doing it.

2:44:39SpeakerYeah, well, and when you're doing, you know, that's what they do with soy, right? But it's like...

2:44:46SpeakerCannabis is a different, look, if we're talking about the grain, sure, that's one thing, right? Because you can produce the grain and not have to do the quality, right? But when you have to produce actual quality on scale, it's a different thing. And I think my leaning has always been handcrafted, small, familial, personal. And getting great effects. So that is where I think most of us maybe would lean.

2:45:12SpeakerBut just recognizing, oh, there's a whole different world of industry And both in the carbon sequestration, the fiber production, the building materials that can come out of the crop, maybe even going to the oil, whether it's the oil of the resin or the hemp seed oil being used as a substitute for petroleum in industry, and the fact that isolate is probably getting down in price per barrel, that is probably under the cost of a We're going to talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about today.

2:45:50SpeakerWe're going to talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about today. We're going to talk a little bit about what we're going to

2:46:10SpeakerWhat you're doing must serve the user, the producer, the financers, and the earth. And so if you can do all of those things, can we, would we be growing more ganja? So that's, yeah, just, I just, I want to feel, I just want a lot of seed because wherever there's not grass in California, not a bad idea to just green it up. Adam and I think even Archive Seed would be interested, Marcus, in my friend in Thailand.

2:46:47SpeakerWhat do you think? You know, I...

2:46:51BubblemanIn regards to what? His production facilities?

2:46:54SpeakerYeah, he's the only guy still allowed and with all the paperwork and all the legalities to work in the cannabis and the hemp. He's developing all of this stuff that you're talking about with the KU University in Thailand. It's one of the biggest... Thank you so much for joining us.

2:47:41SpeakerI'm the only one that they've let into their facility. Let's just say it that way. But they are very open to start telling their story. And I think I told you recently that he would love to show all of the new strains that they have discovered and they have in their bank. I don't know. Kansas University working in Thailand? Nope. Nope. It's KU University. KU. You can look it up.

2:48:15SpeakerAnd they're well known. It brought me to Kansas. So it's just KU, the letters. Is that correct? KU University. And they have done a lot of agricultural patents and innovation. And yeah, they are, like I said, with what happened in Thailand recently, they're the only ones still allowed to continue their growth, their research, their everything. And they have incredible...

2:48:38BubblemanTons of people are still growing in Thailand and selling weed in Thailand.

2:48:42SpeakerBut these guys are working with the government with... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:48:46BubblemanOn a different level.

2:48:48SpeakerOn a completely different level.

2:48:49BubblemanYeah.

2:48:50SpeakerYeah, because Thailand blew up.

2:48:51BubblemanHoly shit. I did hear that they were going to make it so you had to have this particular licensing, but it seems like there's still a lot of people growing big facilities for the rec market in Thailand anyway.

2:49:06SpeakerYeah. Right now, I think they're mostly focused on the genetics and the seeds, for example, and they're looking for seeds that have the highest protein percentage. And they're also looking for other percentage that I don't know about that the seeds have. And with that, they're building all kinds of different things. He's patenting, I think, a material coming out of seeds. So, yeah, I can I can connect you guys.

2:49:33SpeakerI think it would be interesting to see what they're doing in Thailand, you know.

2:49:37BubblemanYeah, it's always interesting to hear what people are doing things. They're not all screaming it from the mountaintops. There's definitely people and institutions that are actively working on all sorts of different things with cannabis right now. And it's, it's good. Dave just had the uncanny ability to like uncover it within like the shortest period of time of it happening. You just seem to like, find out, get it, get get in there and Gain access to whatever that information was.

2:50:09BubblemanWe all definitely benefited from him doing that. No doubt about it.

2:50:15SpeakerDropped the KU in the chat. So people want to follow up.

2:50:19BubblemanI was just looking it up. The Green University.

2:50:24SpeakerYeah. And this guy is my best friend. We've been friends for 22 years. So if you ever if you guys ever go to Thailand, let me know. Give you a nice tour. Um, but yeah, he is, he's got a lot of cool projects, uh, in regards to this stuff and he's got the money to do it.

2:50:43BubblemanSo pretty much have to, when you're working like that, when you're just doing research, that is mucho delero.

2:50:56SpeakerNot only that, he's not getting any profit anytime soon, not for the next probably 5 to 10 years.

2:51:03BubblemanWell, that's why Ryan just said, what you're talking about, Adam, is what requiring true breeding. And who is going to put that 5 to 10 years in to turn around and sell it for 0.01 cent a seed?

2:51:20SpeakerNo doubt. I just, I do want to keep speaking for the intelligence of the plant and the earth. And I do think we somewhat underestimate that the plant and, you know, just like when people breed the gen, the beauty of genetics, it's, it's going to try to pick the best of everything and print, put it forward. So, um, and again, maybe happy accidents is a part of my process that is different than most, but, um, I do try to under-emphasize my ability to do anything but notice and then maybe take action to steward or to corral.

2:52:01SpeakerYou can't make an animal or a dog do something, but you can open the gate and kind of present the path of least resistance. So yeah, just how cool it is that

2:52:18SpeakerI think if we actually are attending to things and going for it and intelligently making decisions and setting up the environment, the plants will take over and do the rest.

2:52:31BubblemanBoom, boom.

2:52:36BubblemanWell, one more hour left of hashtags today. Holograms.

2:52:40SpeakerHolograms. Here's a little opal from Australia. Nice. That has some of Master Bunker's technology from the earth. That iridescence, I see it. Beautiful.

2:52:55BubblemanHow about this hologram from the earth? What is that, a reishi? Yeah, I picked it in my backyard.

2:53:06SpeakerHoly cow, we had a quarter that size, but that is fantastic. That's a lot of medicine right there, my friend. So Marcus, so you understand that The polypores, which are all medicinal, they do present where the earth is healthy. And then, you know, that's the earth saying, I'm healthy. I'm going to do, I'm going to literally enfold some medicine for you. You know what the Chinese call this mushroom?

2:53:36BubblemanThe immortality mushroom. And you don't want to know what's unique about Reishi? Is that you can do both a water extraction, And an alcohol extraction and get different alkaloids out that are both medicinal. And you want to do both. You want, you want, you want to do both. It's almost like wood right here. It is so thick.

2:54:05SpeakerI think that's, I think, what is that called? The keratin or the, the body of the mushroom or the, um, why is the water? It's so light. Can't even believe it. You know, am I saying this right? There's a name for the body of the mushroom, and it's the undigestible portion. And it's why the tummy effects happen when people eat culinary mushrooms or otherwise, because... If you don't pull the water soluble components that you want and you just munch the entire mushroom, you may have different, you know, some uncomfortabilities in digesting.

2:54:47SpeakerYes, exactly. That's why that water tech, you know, and I've asked some of these mushroom people back on Clubhouse, I said, what, I said, what is it that us finding polypores in the forest And us eating them, it's like, what is the mechanism for our body being able to use those? Like, is it as simple as, or complex as the body digesting the DNA of the forest?

2:55:16SpeakerLike what is happening? And they, even though they research mushroom specific, they are mycologists, didn't really have an answer. They didn't know that these, okay, these alkaloids and these possibly terpenes, like traversing the, TURPANOME, or whatever that paper was, like, yeah, that's bizarre. It's bizarre them not quite understanding the mechanisms for the health benefit, but very cool to see that gigantic mushroom. Reishi, Turkey Tail. We've got a lot of polypores that grow here.

2:55:53SpeakerEmphasizing that in some way is probably a future project, trying to see how you can help Help that help that flush every year.

2:56:02BubblemanWe're sure. I want to shout out Camden Fragment. Camden Fragment, who has this shop right here. I don't know if this shop exists anymore. Fictitiousfuzz.com. This was his shop. He's a regular in the chat all the time. And he was like, he reached out to me, wrote me a letter. How cool is that? He said, hey, Bubble Man, thanks for letting me contribute to Hash Church. I look forward to it every Sunday.

2:56:30BubblemanI've learned so much from everyone. I want to give back in any way possible. Long live Hash Church. So what did he give? Well, he sent me this. He sent me a Puff Co. As well as the new 3D XL Bowl. Both of them are going to be one giveaway. It's going to show up in this very same box that he sent to me. And we're going to do a little giveaway.

2:57:00BubblemanAnd so I've got Nightbot set up to do this giveaway. Activity timeout, unique winners, chat announcements. Okay, so let's go. What are we going to do? Choose a winner. Sign in to chat. No, I don't need to chat. Okay, so there's 200 people so far entered into this. Only done this a few times with chat bot or night bot, sorry. And so basically, if you're chatting, you're in, and I guess it's got to be within the last 10 minutes.

2:57:35BubblemanSo I'm going to try to share this because I'm going to give it away right now here maybe maybe in the next few minutes because maybe we'll get you know all you have to do to enter by the way is type something into chat right now so if you've got hash church going and you just type in the word you know full melt or bubble hash or something like that really doesn't matter could be a period.

2:57:56BubblemanIt enters you right away into... Oh, that's a nice sound. I like the little... Yeah, give me a little bit of that.

2:58:02SpeakerThe puppy breath. Can we get these puppy breath turps and something? Ooh, puppy breath. Is that like... Shout out Larry LS Love, who is a... Runs MMJ Radio, I think on YouTube, and is just amazing, solid advocate and educator. He is always in the chat. LS... Always great to talk with you. I've gotten to share a few moments with him and he's been a great inspiration. Yeah, the puppy breath terpenes and the little gizmo whimpers.

2:58:39SpeakerHoly cow. Who wants a puppy? I'm not gonna, maybe next week's giveaway, Marcus.

2:58:48BubblemanOh my God, that's hilarious. Dude, I tucked into Hash Church chat earlier. I was like, I hope that the Hash Church dog-wolves go to Hash Church parishioners. You know? Come on, you guys are watching. Hash Church goers. Hash Church goers. So there's 240 entries now. So just in the last few minutes of mentioning... To type in Full Melt or whatever many, many people did. So we got 40 extra entries.

2:59:19BubblemanI'm not sure how many people are in chat total right now. It seems like we have about 300, just over 300 watching. So I guess if we get up to 250, let's say, so I'm going to share my screen so you guys can see the giveaway, because that's how you do it transparently, right? So you're not pulling any shit. Now I will say this, ideally the person that wins, you know, ideally you don't already have a Puffco.

2:59:52BubblemanIf you do and you got someone you want to give this to, by all means, I'll still ship it to you. You need to get me your email address immediately after I say your name. I want to see your email address show up in the chat because I need to be able to communicate with you. And it's too easy if time goes by for people to claim their you and for me not to really be able to prove it, especially if you're just a YouTube...

3:00:16BubblemanQuestion, question. Go ahead, go ahead.

3:00:18Etienne FontanIs it full melt one word or full melt two words?

3:00:22BubblemanIt doesn't matter. It could be like...

3:00:24SpeakerPoopy Kaka, it could be like turning full melt, all capitals, one word, maybe with some exclamation ampersand.

3:00:35BubblemanNo, I'm just joking. It doesn't matter. All you have to do is be typing in chat. I said full melt because I wanted to see a bunch of full mounts and I have in their defense seen a lot of full mounts. We're at 254 now. I just want to make sure that everyone that's typing or that's in the chat right now is entered.

3:00:55Etienne FontanYeah, they're still coming in. Give it a few more minutes.

3:00:57BubblemanYeah, so you guys can see the page, right, of everyone typing and all the names that have been entered into. All I have to do is go choose a winner. It'll choose a winner. But what I'm going to require is within the first like minute, please be paying attention that you put your email in the chat immediately. Once I can get that, that will confirm that you are the winner.

3:01:21BubblemanI will wait about five minutes. And if I don't get that email, I'm going to give this away to someone else. So I have I have forewarned you, please be paying attention and make this giveaway easy. Also, I'm a super flake when it comes to shipping this shit out. So please be patient for this to take like 19 weeks to show up at your door and do not be thinking that this is going to arrive tomorrow.

3:01:49BubblemanDon't start getting mad at me in three days for something I'm giving you. And I guess I'll pay the shipping. It's all good. All right, I'm picking a winner. You got 264 people. That's damn near everyone that's in the chat right now. It just went up a couple more. You better put your email address in once I choose your name. When you see your name on this, I want to see your email address.

3:02:16BubblemanI really do. Part of me wants to wait to 273 because that's such a good number, but I worry that it could be a very long time for us to get to that number. Oh, 267. Jeez, that's only six more. I think we've got six more people who haven't typed anything in the last 10 minutes because that's the other thing. It's 10 minutes. If we take too long, people that were typing 10 minutes ago will be bumped out of the potential for entry.

3:02:46BubblemanSo yes, tame up. You will be the wiener. I think you misspelt winner there, my buddy, but no, I know you're joking around. 270. We need three more and I'm hitting the button. Come on, 273. The year I was born in, for God's sakes. This is a big giveaway. This is a good value from Camden. Give thanks to Camden for donating this. It's really big of you, dude.

3:03:12BubblemanCamden Fragment in the room. Someone buy that man a membership. 274. I fucked up. I'm sorry. I wasn't paying attention. Here we go.

3:03:27BubblemanAll right. So it says T-Man. Following status is unknown. That's fine. You don't have to be following. T-Man, I'm just going to click the button real quick here. So I got a picture of this. T-Man, you are the winner, my friend. You are the winner. Now let's just see if anyone sees T-Man's email come up on the screen. Please. Let me know.

3:03:55Etienne FontanHe appeared. He hasn't dropped his email yet. T-Man, drop your email, man. I see 13.

3:04:01BubblemanI see him write 13. T-Man to the T-Man. T-Man, you won, bro. You won. That's what's up. But like I said, you have about four minutes to get me your email address. And if you don't get me your email address, I'm going to give this away to someone else. So I see you're in there. I hope we get your email address and this will be at least halfway done.

3:04:28BubblemanThen we just have to work through my flakiness of shipping this thing out. What I should do is ask my wife to do it. She's the opposite of a flake. She'll get it done, son. Maybe I'll do that. Still waiting for T-Man to put up his email. If you don't want to put up your email, you can send me an email, but then I got to figure out, okay, great.

3:04:50BubblemanThank you. You're welcome. How about your email?

3:04:54Etienne FontanCongratulations to you, man. Email. That's all we need. Email.

3:05:01SpeakerThere's no way he's in the chat and not lighting it up.

3:05:05BubblemanHe's in the chat.

3:05:06SpeakerHe's in the chat saying thank you. He's probably registering a new Gmail for the Bubble Man's winner.

3:05:17BubblemanNo problem. I'm not going to say it out loud. It'll just show up in the chat.

3:05:23BubblemanI don't know if they, if they don't just write dot com. That's easy enough. Or if you want, I mean, ideally, I don't know. Yeah, this did happen last time, Camden. It happened exactly. That's why I said it. That's why in like three minutes, I'll give it away to someone else because someone for sure is going to win this. They can put an email up right away.

3:05:44BubblemanI know I could. I know I can do it. So that's why I said it. Let's hope T-Man is going to be the man who wins. Is dropping email in chat insane? Okay, so then what is a way to do this that's not insane? What is a way? How about text me T-Man on Instagram right now? How about this? I got a new way to do it.

3:06:05BubblemanText me on Instagram right now, BC Bubble Man, and text me a word. And then I will text you on here and ask you what that word was. And when you say it, I know it was you and I got your email. That's That's the best I can offer.

3:06:18SpeakerAmazing cryptographic solution.

3:06:21BubblemanWell, I'm not trying to burst it. If it's crazy to give your name away in a chat or your email away in a chat, and I get, maybe that is, I have so many emails and it's not, I give it away all the time, bcbubbleman at icloud.com. We just want to get, I just want to get access to you. So if you want to send me a message on, you can send me a message on the Discord as well.

3:06:41BubblemanI can put up the Discord real quick. You guys are welcome to talk about whatever else you want to be talking about, but I got to just focus on making sure I get T-Man this gift that he won. And I'll put up a, yeah.

3:06:55SpeakerSo, so cool to see Bonkers Innovations and hoping to link up soon and share some things. And you know that just the idea of light and how it's really evokes the flavors from the planet. I mean, it's just so neat. The sweet of flavor that ganja produces when you give it light. It's the fact that it's giving us The rainbow of flavors. Taste the rainbow. And your technology is somewhat doing a mechanical formation of that.

3:07:30SpeakerI think it's so neat. Thanks for sharing everything today. That's a thank you a lot. It's very curious. Yeah. It's been a pleasure to finally start showing you guys. It's been five years of hiding in a bunker. So time to be here with everybody. So thank you. Thank you, Adam, for your philosophical look at things. I appreciate that a lot. And I hope we meet very soon because we're probably not not too far, right?

3:07:59SpeakerCould be going to make it happen. And that I'm not actually a bunker, but being on the mountain. Oh, man, it's so good to see Wade coming down the mountain, somewhat coming out of our shell. Wade, we love you, man. We've been talking about you. And thank you so much for sharing your vibes with us and showing up because, man, you make us all you make us all smile.

3:08:27BubblemanHell, yeah. Welcome, Wade. Good to see you, brother.

3:08:32WadeYes. Thank you for the welcome. And I wanted to join because of what Adam just referred to, how this community gathers around each other at times like this. And I don't want to take up much time here.

3:09:04WadeI will just say, since you saw me last, it's been a very challenging time.

3:09:12WadeI've gotten various kinds of news from my doctors and I'm settling into questions about quality of life and End of life. What does that look like? And that's a deep conversation, if you will.

3:09:40WadeAnd I have to say, I'm not afraid of death.

3:09:47WadeThat part seems easy to me. It's getting to the moment of death that's hard. Can be a ceremonial occasion if that happens to be the way your life unfolds. But more typically it involves, particularly in our culture, it involves being in a hospital or some sort of assisted care facility and lots of tubes and yada yada. And yeah, honestly, I'm not very interested in that whole show.

3:10:23WadeSo yeah, I'm... doing a lot of exploring what are my options and really what's true is in my specific situation uh it's not my cancer that is the problem in my life right now in terms of my quality of life it's the damage That has happened to my heart, which is sort of interesting given how much time of my life I've spent living in my heart. Yeah, that's a thing that I need to spend more time thinking about.

3:11:01WadeWhy does that manifest the way that it has? But yeah, it's despite all the medications that I am on to keep my heart rate in check, Literally sitting here with quiet meditation, I can lower my heart rate into the 70s. But as something as simple as thinking about standing up is enough to raise my heart rate 10 or 15 beats a minute. And meantime, if I go ahead and stand up, My heart rate goes from that mid-70s up to 120.

3:11:43WadeThat's the state of the being this morning because, yeah, like if I want to get up and go to the bathroom, that's more, it gets up to like 135 beats a minute. And this is despite heavy medications to control My heart rate and the reading I've done, and I plan on talking to more of my doctors about this, but it seems to me what's going on for me is that in an attempt to control the cancer, because yeah, the myeloma had gotten very busy, if you will, in my body before it was discovered.

3:12:33WadeIn attempts to control that or keep me alive, if you will, which I've worked, here I am. And that was a question a couple of times along the way. Yeah, the way I read it, the way I interpret it, the way I'm looking at it is it seems like the drugs that were given to me As various parts of my treatment is what has inflicted the damage, if you will, on the muscle of my heart or the nervous system of my heart.

3:13:07WadeMy diagnosis is atrial fibrillation, which is a fairly common diagnosis in persons of my age, but typically it's fairly easily controlled. And I am... I'm not being easily controlled. Of course, that's nothing new in my life. I've never been an easy one to control. Best way to get me to do something is tell me I can't. So here I am. Anyway, yes, I don't want to bring down the vibe.

3:13:43WadeLike I said, I'm doing heavy conversation with myself, with my wife, with my family. Those conversations haven't really gotten started. But yeah, at this point, I still have most of my faculties and I'm grateful for that. But that could change pretty quickly. Anyway,

3:14:10WadeAll of that is a lot why y'all haven't seen me. And as I get these things sorted out, you will be seeing more of me, Marcus and Etienne and Adam, nice to see you, been a long time.

3:14:29WadeYeah, I really do feel like you have made this community, Marcus. You have made this community my church.

3:14:46SpeakerIf I was ever pressed about my religion, as close as I could get to a religion was Buddhism, which to me was really just an owner's manual for my mind and a guidebook to compassion.

3:15:15SpeakerA guidebook to the practice of compassion and loving kindness.

3:15:28WadeSo, yeah. When I feel able on a Sunday morning, I love the idea that y'all are here. I really have a goal of meeting you at 9 a.m. Pacific, Marcus. But as you know, I haven't done very good at that lately.

3:16:02SpeakerYou can probably tell by how I'm sharing what I'm sharing

3:16:10WadeWhat a bit of a basket case I am. And this level of turmoil and questioning and examination, doing what I can to quiet my mind. And really a lot,

3:16:38WadeThe sort of whip, if you will, that's happening in my life, driving me to get this sorted out is how to manage pain. And Monica and I made a really lovely tincture yesterday. That I've been enjoying and it's, I'm getting about 60 milligrams total cannabinoids in a milliliter of that tincture. And it has CBD and THC in it as well as some CBG.

3:17:19WadeAnd I, and I'm grateful to have it. It's, it's really helpful.

3:17:28WadeAnd yeah, I found I can't smoke enough hash to mitigate the pain for more than a few minutes to a half hour. I've been doing a lot of eating hashish, which is interesting.

3:17:48WadeBut I can't say that I'm getting a lot of relief on the pain front from that method of using hashish.

3:17:59WadeBut I'm trying it. Oh, boy.

3:18:04BubblemanFrom consuming it, Wade, you mean you're not getting much or you're not getting much from the smoking of it?

3:18:11WadeFrom eating it. I'm eating, I don't know, I'm eating pea-sized pieces of a I would call it maybe a three or four star water hash that a friend generously gave us a huge slab of. And I've been using that for my needs. And yeah, I don't know. I probably consume a gram or two of hashish that way.

3:18:44WadeAnd yeah, I wish I noticed a bigger response on the pain front. Marcus, I don't know about you, but most of the pain that I deal with is nerve pain, bone on bone, if you will. And most bones have nerve endings in them. And when they're grinding on each other, it can... Yeah.

3:19:12SpeakerWade, your grace, your non-basket casey-ness is always on the forefront and we love you and thank you for sharing everything. It's, you're really empowering. I do think, you know, an ethanol extract over even a slab of hash, as much of the neurotransporter We're going to take a short break and we'll be right back.

3:19:59SpeakerSo it's going to go where it needs to. So I am going to get you some of what I have, as I promised so prior and have failed to. And I do want to say just yes, that we love you and your grace of showing up and speaking and our wanting and your ability to face what you're facing with compassion, I don't think it's a mistake that your forwardness and your forgiveness that you've given to the world, your heart, your forgiveness of your heart has now...

3:20:46SpeakerDr. Michael Gomez, Dr. Michael Gomez, Dr. Michael Gomez, Dr. Michael Gomez,

3:21:08SpeakerThank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

3:21:35SpeakerThank you for everything you've done and given us.

3:21:43WadeYeah, thank you, Adam. Yeah, it's part of why I like the tincture. I'm fortunate enough to have donation of...

3:21:58WadeProduct that is available for sale at the local dispensary, but it's also part of the local dispensary's compassion program. And they've been very kind to me, as well as some of the local makers have also done similar things to keep me supplied. So I have good quality oils that are ethanol extracted that are that yeah I like like I said uh I think we put eight grams of uh You know, 80% in that range, CBD, THC, and CBG.

3:22:45WadeThe CBG was only 50%. But the others, yeah.

3:22:52SpeakerI have a question about those products that you're finding from the local producers. When you place a little out on your finger and smell it, does it smell delicious in full body? Does it have all of the things that you might expect? Or does it smell more like half-baked cookies or over-baked ganja? Does it have a floral essence of Can you sense the terpenes that you might expect?

3:23:27SpeakerAnd I'm asking this because I think there's a penchant for overcooking the sauce. And I do think it is essential in its name and its efficacy to have the terpenes present.

3:23:45WadeI would agree with that.

3:23:50WadeI'll say it like this. I don't usually sample the individual syringes that I'm working with. I have identified producers that I respect and I find their product to be, to have terpenes present. Is it as full-bodied and rich as it might be? No. I've

3:24:20WadeBack in the day, I've made here at home things that smelled better to me than what's available on the market today. But I had access to pretty good cannabis and organic ethanol and was really pretty careful about how to get the oil off the plants.

3:24:46WadeYeah, anyway, no, I would say it like this, Adam. I am grateful for what I have. I continue to appreciate what may come my way, be it from licensed producers or home producers or whomever. And if I don't know that person very well, I might spend a few minutes talking to them about what's in this bottle they're handing to me. But yeah, I... I gotta say, over the last couple of months, as I've talked to the various doctors, holy moly, there's so many of them, and I do have respect for most of them.

3:25:36WadeI'm lucky that way. Yeah, most of the doctor news that I'm getting these days suggests that what I have now, in terms of my abilities or Particularly in the realm of keeping my heart at some sort of reasonable rate, this might be as good as it gets. And I find that idea frightening. uh because i can to some extent slow my heart rate but i can't do any kind of physical activity without my heart rate getting up to 130 140 and you do enough of that kind of thing that's that's the kind that's how you end up with a stroke or a heart attack or None of which I'm interested in.

3:26:27WadeSo, yeah, if it's possible, I've become an even more enthusiastic consumer of cannabis. And yeah, I'm doing an awful lot less of the smoking and an awful lot more of helping my gut help me. And I do those topical for some flare-ups, like in my ribs. I've broken a number of ribs over the last couple of years. It's amazing how fragile bones can become.

3:27:02WadeAnd yeah, I don't really want to bring down the whole thing here.

3:27:10WadeI guess I would.

3:27:18WadeI think part of the Part of the equation as I'm seeing it is the damage to my heart and the doctor's medications, apparent inability to give me something like a normal heart rate mechanism, if you will, the nervous signaling there. I don't think it's that I gave too much.

3:27:51SpeakerIn the world, I think it's more that I've yet to really learn how to love myself.

3:28:01SpeakerBecause that's really where the heart arises. I've come to realize that I've come to realize that a lot of my acts of kindness in my life were ways of assuring myself that i'm okay that i'm a good that i'm a good example of a human being that i've done that i've done what i can to make the world a better place than i found it and i think there's some room for me to say yeah i did some of that

3:28:44SpeakerBut the real core of it for me is I'm still learning to have that same loving kindness and compassion for the guy that's sitting in his chair talking right now.

3:29:01WadeBecause so much of my strength, so much of my identity, so much of who I thought I was

3:29:13SpeakerHad to do with what I could do to some extent for myself, but mostly for other people. I felt like other folk were, particularly for a good portion of my work, the folks that I was encountering needed help I could provide, and they needed it pretty badly.

3:29:43SpeakerAnd I've come to understand more fully what some of those parents must have felt like or what some of those kids were going through.

3:30:00SpeakerSo since it's church and Wade's given testimony today, I would remind all of you to

3:30:14WadeTake the time to recognize that you are worthy.

3:30:23SpeakerYou are worthy of the respect and love of your community. You're worthy of the love and respect of your family.

3:30:34WadeBut really at core, you're worthy of the love and respect for yourself.

3:30:45SpeakerFor the human being you are, not for your activities, for the being that is there with you when you go to sleep at night, that person.

3:31:00WadeIt's just you. You're not proving anything, not making the world a better place. Maybe you're gonna get some rest, which might help you feel better. So there's an act of loving kindness. But yeah, it would be to take a moment, maybe every day, part of your daily thing, put it on your calendar, if you will. Take a minute to appreciate you.

3:31:32WadeTake a moment to appreciate you for who you are. And if you start off with appreciating you for, you know, your business or Your family or whatever reasons you can find, you know, make it part of your recognition, part of your gratitude for your life. Because every one of us at some point, you know, will face the end of your life. And like I said, sometimes you get the chance to choose what that's going to look like.

3:32:12WadeBut more often, you don't really get that chance. And

3:32:19WadeAnyway, most all of you who are listening are in no danger of dying today, so don't trip out. And I'm in no danger of dying today. And my goodness, Marcus, and everyone else, I apologize for Getting all heavy on everything.

3:32:41Etienne FontanStop apologizing. You're with family and friends. There's no apologizing with family and friends. We love you. We support you. We're here for you. We are here for you in the good times. We're here for you in the bad times. You are our family. Proceed.

3:32:59WadeThank you, sir. Very military of you. Yeah, what you say is true. What you say is true and see here, I am not trusting that. Not because again, I don't really trust my own worthiness. And, and I think that's what I'm pointing to.

3:33:28WadeIf you're comfortable in your life with who you are, that's a beautiful thing. Um,

3:33:35WadeAnd if you're uncomfortable with where you are in your life, you might take a minute or a day or a few. Really look at what's important to you, what matters to you. Even more importantly, perhaps, to what I've been talking about is, yeah, who are you? And I, for a lot of years, have been a cultivator and a medicine maker and I've done good acts, if you will.

3:34:13WadeSo if karma matters, I think I did some good work this time around.

3:34:22WadeAnd whether or not karma matters, I can look back on my life and feel good.

3:34:31SpeakerAnd I'm at a point in my life where

3:34:35WadeAs I look forward in my life, it's a very different thing. Most all of my life, you know, I could tell you what was going to be happening a week from now or hell, even five years from now. And I can't tell you what's going to be happening a few hours from now in my life. I'm pretty sure I'll still be here sorting out how to do this, how to How to live a life with severely limited capabilities.

3:35:15WadeMy goodness. I know that's must all sound like doom and gloom and horror and yada yada, but if you will, it's a report from Nevada City and Wade and Monica and Yeah, I think it's, I can't even begin to express how much Monica has done for me over the last four years and the cost to her.

3:36:04WadeWe're both pretty tired, I gotta say.

3:36:09WadeAnd I'm lucky to have her. I'll say that.

3:36:19BubblemanWell, we're all lucky. We're all lucky to have her, Wade. You know, you're questioning your karma, yet you've manifested a person like Monica into your life. Sounds like karma's answered you already.

3:36:34WadeWell said, Marcus. Yeah. I, I think my, my closing thing for me is to spend less time trying to figure out, you know, how and why things are the way they are and more time opening my heart to, hey, look at what's going on and what, what can we do about it? Um, Yeah. So I think I'm going to close on that to celebrate your life, to give thanks for who you are.

3:37:19WadeHowever you can find that within yourself, give thanks for who you are. Because you're, you know, there's in the whole, whole wide world, There's like 8 billion human beings and a billion is like a huge number. It's really not imaginable for any of us. That's how big it is. But there's eight of those human beings on the planet and we're all pretty much the same. And yet when you get down to the nitty gritty details, there's not one of us that's the same as another.

3:37:59WadeAnd when you really consider that, you start realizing how important you as an individual really are. Because there's nature took the time to create a unique version of the human being, unlike any other of the 8 billion. And that could appear wasteful. But in fact, there's an artful grace to it all. So trust, trust, love yourself. That's all I got.

3:38:34WadeI promise I'll be, I'm going to do what I can to be here next week, Marcus. It's, yeah.

3:38:41BubblemanIt's always a pleasure when you show up, brother. We're always happy to have you. And we know if you don't show up and we know you're having some rough times, we know we're still in your ear. We know you're still hearing it through the speaker and we're always thinking of you. So I'm glad you did come on today. And of course I'm, Sorry to hear that you're, you know, dealing with such heavy, heavy things, you know, this what would a lot of us do, even those of us in service, you know, you just you do so much in life, you're kind of very rarely in the moment and you are being forced to be in the super moment right now, you know, stripped of all of the prosthetics and all of the The things that keep our mind ticking into the future and sometimes remembering the past and moving through these three sort of illusionary phases.

3:39:35BubblemanAnd you are 100% in the moment and it's heavy, man. I feel for you for sure. And you're certainly not the only one who's going through this right now. And many of us on the panel may go through this one day ourselves. And that's why I think it's important to not Sweep it under the rug per se, but that it's important to hear about. And, you know, I, I, I'm very thankful that you're willing to be so vulnerable with us.

3:40:09BubblemanAnd it makes me feel like we are your family because you're willing to come and share. You've got an incredible amount of people in the chat room who just constantly send hearts and love to you. They're still saying it right now. They've been saying it since you came into the room. And it's nice to see, it's nice to tap into that type of hope and love. I'm certain of it on both sides for both of us.

3:40:31BubblemanAnd yeah, man, I just appreciate you. I appreciate you and Monica a great deal. And I'm very, very, very, very thankful to have you both be a part of the Hash Church family.

3:40:43Etienne FontanAlso, people are in the chat saying how your Harlequin has helped save their lives, Wade. So you will never know the countless people who have been helped and saved by the genetics you helped perpetuate and the compassion you served at the expense of your heart. I will say thank you for many of us and many of those unsung who will never get the chance to say thank you.

3:41:09Etienne FontanBut you saved many lives and that is a blessing unto itself. And if you say there's a thing about karma, that's a pretty big lift, brother. And I love you.

3:41:19SpeakerAnd karma means behavior and action. And your action has been good, if only here in our interactions. And so we love you. Your confession in church today of pain is going to be the root of compassion for people going forward for a long time. And, you know, Our broken hearts are where we find how to love. And then so in the true compassion, and you've kind of delivered this with your ability to share and all of your self reflective worries need need not bother you at night or during the day because we feel like you have proper action.

3:42:09SpeakerWe love you very much.

3:42:13BubblemanAnd how about this photo? Wade, the father, and us, the sons and the daughters. You know, literally giving him, giving us a piece of his heart every weekend. And it is difficult that it works that way. I don't know why it has that irony life, Wade, when you give so much of yourself that it's the very thing that is affected. My father and his wife were trauma specialists.

3:42:39BubblemanShe was a nurse. He was a first responder. All they did was respond to trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma. And then at 55 years old and 49, they would die in a traumatic motorcycle accident on a highway. And, you know, all they did was give of themselves for their entire lives. But yet this full circle comes around the way it comes around each and every time. And we gave a lot of very good pieces of yourself that are still out there operational.

3:43:11BubblemanI feel pretty good about that, man.

3:43:19Etienne FontanYour legacy lives on in gardens all over the world and will continue to.

3:43:27Collin PalmerWe love you, Wade. You've changed the world with your gift of being able to cultivate and house and, you know, make space really for people that are in need. And that's, that's, that's.

3:43:45BubblemanDude, you've done such powerful work. You have a whole group of people that just gather every Sunday just wanting to love you. How about that? That's amazing. You can't get that at the hospital. See if your doctor can provide that. You got it.

3:44:06WadeThank you. Thank you, everybody. I appreciate this community, I gotta say.

3:44:17SpeakerAnd I also gotta say that... Yes, I did some of all of what you're referencing, but again and again, remind yourselves, the plant, she's such a beautiful gift to all of us and such an example of freely giving of her miracles.

3:44:46SpeakerOoh. Okay, I'm going to go back to listening. And yeah, let's talk about something other than me. Okay.

3:44:57BubblemanAbsolutely. Well, we have about 15 minutes left on this beautiful Sunday afternoon. Spring is in the air. So obviously, that's been incredible. For those of you that don't know, I'll give you a cool little tip right here. I'm a big photographer. I love photography. I was using the app iNaturalist for a very long time because I thought it was cool, worked in the scientific community and the identification community.

3:45:20BubblemanBut if you go into your iPhone and you go into your photos and you like pop up a photo like say of like these little plants and you lift that photo up a little bit. Oh, I think I've already. No, let me see if it'll work. No, because I'm not looking at it there. Did it right away. So there at the top of this, when you lift the image up, it'll show you all sorts of different data metrics on the on the image.

3:45:46BubblemanAnd I'm sorry that I can't get it better. But right in the corner here, it says look up plant right here. So you can look up the plant and then it'll tell you the genus of the plant that you just took a photo of. And it'll really get you to know the nature around you. I urge all of you, if you don't know the trees and shrubs and flowers and plants that are in and around the area that you live, iNaturalist is a great app, but this is your iPhone.

3:46:16BubblemanYou don't even need the app. It's embedded into the image. But here's the thing that a lot of people will do. You'll take a photo. You'll bring that photo up right away, but that photo won't be brought up in photos. It'll be brought up in your camera and that data won't be there. So you have to go to the photo image and lift that up. The odd time it won't know what it is and it won't show anything.

3:46:36BubblemanBut for the most part, plants and insects and such We'll show up. Here's another red one. Look up plant. It's in my front yard. It's a rhododendron. And look at how psychedelic that is as it goes around the rhododendron too. It's showing that it is the rhododendron genus of plant. And then it'll take you to the Wikipedia of such as well with a bunch of different photos.

3:47:00BubblemanThis is a super cool idea. No, I wouldn't. You don't necessarily use it as the word of God, particularly if you're using it for fungi. Don't do that at all. None of the apps should be used as the word of God for fungi. But it's still really cool. iNaturalist is very much the more advanced level that you would want to use for fungi because it has, if you get enough people authenticating your identifications, it can actually be used in scientific publications and in paper, university papers as citations.

3:47:32BubblemanSo it's a pretty cool thing. It works through this whole network of GPS. So when you take the photo and the metadata that's in the background, we'll show them on the map where you found it. So if you are picking psychedelic mushrooms and you don't want to give up your spots, you might not want to post on iNaturalist. Maybe you just want to use your phone, but I thought that that was a really cool idea to share with everyone that you could do this spring.

3:47:58BubblemanI'd love to hear about people's different identifications of plants. I did a walk with my wife the other day and we identified maybe a dozen different plants and flowers and such. And it was very easy. She got into it with her phone and it was just like, whoa, did they all do this? It's like, I'm pretty much sure nowadays with the updates, Most of the iPhones at least have that embedded right into the camera and into the software, which you got to admit is pretty fucking cool.

3:48:25SpeakerThat is a really cool way to do an assessment of areas of like someone asked me because I was able to finish a chainsaw mill that I built off of my chainsaw bar and cut my first slab from some downed wood and yesterday and someone asked me what species are in your area and I ran through a long list but this idea that you can categorize and build a map that Likely the Forest Service is accessing and this is neat stuff.

3:48:59BubblemanYeah, it's definitely, well, it's that fractal holographic sort of metaphor again, right? It's all just, we're all just a fractal unfolding at this accelerated rate. And, you know, while it's unfolding, it's just creating one-offs constantly. Wade Laughters and Etienne Fontaine's and Bunker Inovas all day long. Just unique individuals just popping out of the unfoldment of, you know, out of the chaos. And I am here for it.

3:49:31BubblemanLiterally in three-dimensional form currently.

3:49:36BubblemanI couldn't be more literal. Pun absolutely intended on that one.

3:49:39SpeakerFour dimensions if we count time. There you go. Colin was, Colin, Colin, you, last week you left to go spend, spend, celebrate your father. And it just left me thinking, like, what a cool guy he must have been or is to create someone like you. And I did want to ask, I don't know if it's appropriate, but I was curious if you wanted to speak on his little 3D presentation of a person or...

3:50:10SpeakerI just recognized that you had gone to lift one up to him and wanted to say, I think you're such a cool guy. He must have, or is someone who is also cool.

3:50:22Collin PalmerYeah, he, well, thank you first for, for saying that. And yeah, it's, you know, I'd say my, my father, you know, he, he was a risk taker and total entrepreneurial his whole life. Someone that, Just constantly pushed the limits of anything that he did and kind of just encouraged me to follow the things that made me feel good and was never at any point in time ever judgmental, ever.

3:50:55Collin PalmerHe was always taught me to be so open and, you know, he was doing drum circles and doing all this spiritual work. He became a Reiki master. He showed me a side of spirituality that I didn't understand. And he showed me quite a lot about what I, you know, why I do what I do, I think is a direct result of him and the things that he taught me.

3:51:23Collin PalmerSo I think, you know, from that respect, when I lost him in December to Parkinson's, you know, my dad was 101st airborne, first of the 506, the things that I got to learn about him through his platoon, the people that were underneath him. He was, you know, a platoon, he was a captain, you know, he was a, he was a black, black beret. So he, he was able, he was out in, in recon situations and I, I didn't really know much about it and I never understood why he never talked about it with me.

3:51:57Collin PalmerBut yeah, Once I heard the stories, I started to quickly understand. But that's, you know, that's the person he taught me to be with someone that was curious all the time, loving, nonjudgmental, open, and giving. And that's, that's something that I'll always, I just, I just, I sometimes miss the encouragement.

3:52:29Collin PalmerBecause he, he was my audience, you know. So that's, that's, that's how I, how, for me, that's, that's why he was important to my life. Because he was my audience. He was someone that every, every new Fino that I, I found, I'd go right to him and I would, we would talk about it. Or if I made a new batch of hash, I'd take photos of it.

3:52:59Collin PalmerHe'd be the first text. You know, everything, you would be the first line of like, yo, check this out. And the first line of encouragement, like, cool. Um, or does it smell good enough? Does it, you know, does it, you know, does it hit right? As you said, you know, so, you know, it's, it's, uh, that was my audience for me. So losing him in December was tough because Parkinson's was just a really nasty disease.

3:53:30Collin PalmerAnd I think, um, any of any of those that are going through this out there, um, you're not alone and it's a very difficult disease to see someone that's so strong. So those of you that have experienced that, you're, you're, you know, I'm right there with you. So for me, that was a really unique holiday on, on 420. So I went and spent a little time with him at his, at his grave.

3:54:02Collin PalmerSo, so yeah, that's, you know, that's why, you know, he's, he was important to me. I know, and I know a lot of people have never had that experience with their parents or in reverse, sometimes I wish I had more time with my father in different ways, you know, but, you know, we're all unique in our own ways. And I think that's what shapes our journey. It certainly shapes what I'm, the journey I'm on and the purpose that I believe I'm here for.

3:54:35Collin PalmerSo it's, you know, for myself, it's, It's just remembering all of those things that I instill in the work that I do today. You know, he always, like, I have these cards here from him that he wrote, and they're just, you know, poems and things about, you know, failure is born of successful deeds that were never attempted. You know, little sayings like that, right? To keep me in check because I'm such a risk taker too, you know, because I think all of us here share that same sentiment where we take risks on behalf of the good to be a force of good.

3:55:22Collin PalmerSo, so those are the things, you know, that I, you know, That's important to me, you know, and I think like I just read off one of his cards, you know, these are the things that I'm, to be honest, I didn't even know about this stuff. Like I'm still learning about it, you know, and that's the other half of it. It's like, there's things that I'm learning that I didn't, that makes sense to me now, but you know, it's, it's a trip, you know?

3:55:50Collin PalmerSo, but, but with that said, ETN, I'd love to connect with you offline about Veterans Action Council. I want to, I want to get heavily involved with whatever you're doing.

3:56:02BubblemanThat's what's up. Link you guys up. Wonderful, beautiful words. Definitely. Once again, I got to shout out my dad and my stepmom, Marie and Gary. Almost 20 years ago, you guys left us on the motorcycle that I bought you for your 50th birthday. Yeah, that stung, let me tell you. But I remember them now more happily than I do more sad. So it's we were talking about with the dogs earlier, we started the conversation of like, you know, for 10 years, I came home and this dog every day, just unconditional love, love, love, love, love.

3:56:44BubblemanIt's like that love, it feeds you so much, but it also is the equivalent of your grief at the end of their life. So love is this very unique thing that has this other piece attached to it. It's almost like the harder you love, you know, the more grief that is inevitable for you to experience. And I don't know what the lesson or the insight is in that, but I definitely see it.

3:57:12BubblemanAnd it's interesting. It's an interesting concept to get into and philosophize about for another show because this one is actually pretty much over. Very powerful words from Wade and Colin here at the end of the show. Thank you both for being vulnerable and sharing. Always appreciate that. Love to both of you guys. Big shout out to everyone that watched today. Uh, you know, 300 plus people watching for four hours.

3:57:44BubblemanIt's no small feat. I mean, I couldn't watch TV for four hours straight. I don't know how the hell we do this, but we do it and I'm really glad we do it. So thank you to all the panelists that showed up today. Uh, really thanks to you, uh, Ori from Bunker Inova for showing up and sharing, you know, coming out of the shadows a little bit and sharing with us and always a pleasure, Adam, to have you come on and share the dogs and share your unique perspective and, uh, Trigger people in the chat.

3:58:13SpeakerHe's talking about vaccines. Love it. Anyway. I never said that word just to correct the record. You didn't. One love, culture. I love all you very much.

3:58:26BubblemanMuch love, much love. Shout out to Puffco, as always, for sponsoring, as well as Grandmaster LEDs. As well as Bubble Bags. Shout out to Sauce, Rosin Labs, who will be coming to BC here in the next little while, if they're not already. And you can check them out at one of our past sponsors, The Craft Greenery. You can check them out at craftgreenery.com. I got to admit, this is fucking beautiful.

3:58:54BubblemanI'm just throwing it around. Beautiful rosin. I'm very, very impressed with this particular product. I smoked the other one, the bubble gum. This one's the grease bucket. I have also been enjoying this other one called the Purple Poison, hiding behind my phone. Doesn't quite look as spectacular, but what a really beautiful, different sort of floral, different sort of terpene profile, but... Shout out to everyone. We'll be back next week.

3:59:25BubblemanIt will be May and we'll be starting our 17th Hash Church of the Year in a row. We've got 52 to hit. Let's pray I don't get the flu. Let's pray my internet and power or a tree doesn't fall on my house or a plane doesn't fall out of the sky and land right on me. Right as I said that, a bald eagle came into view and it was just flying on the thermal.

3:59:50BubblemanJust right in front of my house just now. That was awesome. I wish I could have shared it. If I had my shit together, maybe I could have. Anyway, may the full melt bless your bowl sooner than later. Hope to see you next week. Peace out, everybody. Much love from the Hash Church family.