Garden Life and Community Reflections

0:27Etienne FontanHello, everybody.

0:29BubblemanWelcome, welcome. Welcome to Hash Church Season 11, Episode 27. I am tired. I went to bed late last night, spent hours in my garden gardening. Better click this record button. There we go. Let's start over. Welcome, everybody. Hash Church, Season 11, Episode 27. Hope everyone's doing well today out in that world. I am about to go over our sponsors and thank them as always. And we'll see what we got going on for today.

1:05BubblemanI've been, yeah, just... Took quite a few milligrams yesterday. My head's a little bit fuzzy, but we should be good. We're going to shout out our sponsors as we often do these days on Hash Church. So let us get to it. Big shout out to the Press Club. Trusted by top hash makers from around the world since 2016, the Press Club is your one-stop shop for award-winning solventless gear.

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3:26BubblemanElevate your extraction game at www.bubblebag.com and use the code HASHCHURCH10 for exclusive savings. Well, that's always fun to shout those guys out and see what we got going on today. I did just get a message from Dr. Mark saying that he is not going to be in today. So I think how we're going to start today's Hash Church is with a dab. We'll get the old unit going here.

3:54BubblemanI will be giving away a press club package today. I don't know what it's going to be, if it's going to be a spoon, if it's going to be some bags, maybe it's going to be a spoon and some bags. I got to say, I do like these spoons. They are pretty cool. They've grown on me. I thought it was pretty cool the day it arrived, but I'm starting to think it's even cooler now.

4:18BubblemanIt's just a cool little styley package. Spoon. I love the press club on the back. I love the press club on the front. And so perhaps we give one of those away. I will leave that up to the press club. And what I will do is at about the halfway point of the show today, I will release the hounds. No, I will release the night bot, actually.

4:45BubblemanAnd so that is how that will go. I kind of had a feeling today because I sent out my... My invitation yesterday late for Hash Church. I had a feeling today I could end up on the show, you know, without really anyone in the room. And so I was ready for it. I was kind of prepared for it. So as you guys know, I was away last week in Manitoba.

5:11BubblemanI was at a fishing tournament with my son. Still got my kind of outdoorsy marble slinger shirt on. This is the one I wore quite a bit there. And it was fun. It was amazing to see my son connect with my uncle and for them to fish and have a good time and catch some walleye and some jack and just all around have a good time. It was nice for me to get back.

5:34BubblemanIt was nice for me to meet this guy, Jamie, aka Sir Squishes A Lot. What a nice guy. Now, I feel like I've misplaced one. Oh, it's probably over there. He gave me some very lovely things. Actually, it's in the other room. I'm going to have to go get that at one point in time. Flavor wise, some really nice rosins, a couple of beautiful rosins. He was super fired up.

5:57BubblemanI always love meeting people like that that are just fired up. He also gave me, which I do have present, which I thought was pretty cool. And this is just out of nowhere. He gave me this little Homer Simpson rosin. Right. He gave me this little Homer Simpson post pillar and he gave me a little donut carb cap. So that just goes in the slurper. That's on top.

6:19BubblemanAnd what a cool little kind of kick down. I'm not going to lie. I thought that was pretty darn generous. And like I said, he gave me a few flavors as well, which were, of course, delicious.

6:33BubblemanMade a couple of shorts. I had an app that I was using called Opus Clips and then I lost access to it. It was the weirdest thing. There was no login and I couldn't figure out how to get in and they don't have the best customer service. So I had a couple of weeks where I just wasn't in touch with my clipping. So this week I did clip.

6:52BubblemanI clipped, I think I put up about four or five shorts. I'm asking you, the hardcores, If you don't mind going onto my YouTube channel and finding those shorts and sharing them out. There's a good one with Mojave. There's a great one with Jeremy and Nick and Ian and Dr. Mark. And so yeah, any exposure we can get on those shorts, that would be great. For whatever reason, YouTube, I don't know if they've rewired the algorithm, but like the views are down.

7:22BubblemanEven right now, we have 100 people watching. Usually we'd have 300 to 400 watching a Hash Church episode. So I'm not sure how the shadow ban works, but if you can share it out there, that would be amazing. Awesome, Deadly Eight. Glad you've seen those. That's great. Geez, I'm kind of hoping I'm getting this bong rip in me so I can kind of... In fact, I guess if I'm going to do a bong rip, I better get my rips, my flavors.

7:52BubblemanI got some nice full melt bubble here, but I wanted to try some of this new rosin. And I guess I won't be able to because there's not a single person in the room with me right now. So... I'm going to have to send out a few smoke signals to the Vatican as Mr. Clark would say.

8:19BubblemanWhere are you, Mojave? There we go. Let's get a Mojave invite out and a Colin invite out and a Ryan Lee invite out. And in the meantime. I'm happy to, you know, do a hash church by myself. When's the last time I did a Bubble Man hash church with nobody else? Maybe I'll start with a 30 milligram. Should I do that? Get a little 30, 30 MGs in my body?

8:44BubblemanProbably not considering I went to bed with 60. Good morning, Grow With Kenny. Ah, very good, very good. Let us know if you need any help there, Grow With Kenny. You can always hit us up through Instagram or on my email at bcbubbleman at icloud.com. Tom. Oh, I'm having a rip here, Deadly Eight. Really, really quick. It's just a matter of waiting for it to heat up.

9:05BubblemanI'm going to turn on that little unit. And hopefully we'll see some of our panel here in the near future. Like I said, I sent the invite out for Hash Church last night at, oh God, I would say late, like very late. 10 or 11 o'clock at night. So that is pushing it. I don't always do that. I try to do a little bit better. But yeah, here we go.

9:35BubblemanWhy don't we get this gentleman? I got a good friend that I can invite.

9:45BubblemanLet's see what he's saying. See what Ted Smith is saying over on Victoria.

9:58BubblemanLet's see what Alex from Hashtag is saying. This is kind of a neat thing, and it's something I've been doing for a long time in regards to inviting people to Hash Church. I just send them the invites through Instagram. Yeah.

10:18BubblemanAnd that's probably the best way to do that. So, oh, I got an automatic reply from the Soil King. Anyway, send out a couple of, Mary Jane was just on as well. So I think the Dragonfly Earth Medicine have just gotten back from that. I feel like Ryan Lee is actually visiting Dragonfly Earth Medicine right now. I guess now would be a nice opportunity to shout out Skunk Man Sam and Wade Laughter, our two, you know, panelists, friends, mentors, inspirations have passed on and Of course, we talk about them all the time and we did shows specifically about them, but I just don't want them to be forgotten.

11:08BubblemanI want to bring them up as often as possible. So I want to give a big shout out to those guys and let them know wherever they are that we are. We are absolutely thinking of you guys on the regular. We miss you. Ash Church will never be the same without either of you. And it was just, yeah, so shocking for both of them to move on.

11:31BubblemanYeah, Bingo and Horatio, and my goodness, Frenchie Cannoli and Subcool, and the list goes on and on. At this point in time, I'm starting to feel bad that I don't even remember everyone that has sort of passed and moved on. But RIP, exactly, DJs, RIP to the... To the OG brothers, we miss you guys and we definitely think of you guys very often.

11:58SpeakerLet's get this rip-a-dip going.

12:05BubblemanAll right. Lots going on in the meantime. I'm working on a project in Canada. I've got New Mexico and Colorado just fired off. If you're in New Mexico or Colorado or Illinois or Missouri or Maryland or Oklahoma or Michigan, Nevada potentially here soon enough, try to give us the support. If you see Bubble Man Brand on the shelf, Give it a shot. Hit me up. Post it.

12:35BubblemanTag me. I'll repost it. And I'd love to hear your critiques on it too. If it's no good, I'd especially love to hear about it. If it's good, if it's great, I'm happy to hear that as well. But we're not afraid of critiques in this game. Oh my God, Jay Pot Lover, I'm so sorry to hear that. I think we're all going to raise our bongs for poor Rufus who passed away yesterday.

13:03BubblemanJay Pot Lover's little doggy friend moved on to that big doggy heaven in the sky. That's always the hardest thing when we lose our dog, our pet. It's crushing, there's no doubt about it. And so we wish you the best with your difficult transition that you're going to be doing here. Oh, Dr. Mark. Dr. Mark did just send me a text saying that he was not going to be on today, but I could send him a message if I had a chemistry question.

13:34BubblemanHow are you doing, man? Can you hear me? I can hear you. Okay, loud and clear.

13:38SpeakerAll right. Yeah, I... Loud and clear. We're having a family gathering. It was my wife's birthday yesterday. Oh, happy birthday. Over, yeah, thank you very much. And so I was in the middle of shucking the corn and I was listening to you and my wife goes, is he there all by himself? Yep. I was like, do you need to go? Okay, I'll finish shucking the corn. So she's shucking the corn.

14:04BubblemanYou know what? Shucking the corn will always have a place in my heart. It is the last thing my sister did with my father before he passed away. Yeah, they shucked corn. Just a silly thing, right? Thank you for watching.

14:37BubblemanAnyone even say shucking corn? Isn't it funny when people pass on the things that can remind you of them? I would have never in my life of the 33 years that I got to spend with my father ever have thought that shucking corn would be some last connection, not even directly through me, but through my sister. She got to do that with him the night before. So shout out to shucking corn too.

15:02SpeakerYeah, well, it's a bluegrass song too, right? Shucking the corn, right? It's a really fast banjo song. I know from that banjo song, but yeah, you also shuck, what else do you shuck? Oysters and clams, right? Oysters and clams, exactly. Oysters, clams, and corn, right? They need to be shucked before you can eat them. Interesting.

15:26BubblemanGood old shuckery. Yeah, lots of shucking going on, right? Absolutely. Well, man, I'll tell you, I spent, you know, I have this massive property here, not massive, but it's an acre and it's an acre of like forest. So, you know, like 50,000 square feet of trees and different gardens and, you You know, the people that lived here prior to me were retired and all they did was take care of their garden.

15:49BubblemanAnd in the last, you know, 15 years that I've lived here, it's forest and I've just let it grow over. My rhododendrons, instead of being like, you know, up and they're like down to the ground, you can't see under it. So I just went and spent hours just like manually trimming everything. And what a great feeling to get out into the, into nature. The Garden and Get Dirty.

16:15BubblemanActually poked myself right in the eye with a fern yesterday too. I was very happy to wake up today and not feel it be in pain.

16:25SpeakerYeah, it's a beautiful day up here in Vermont, that's for sure. You know, living on the lake, it just, it comes alive in the summertime. Just, you know, boats everywhere and kayaks and Boy Scout troops on canoe trips. It's just, it sounds familiar, even though it's not a lake out in front of me, we got the very same thing.

16:46BubblemanI appreciate the winter when everyone disappears and I can go out on the ocean and there's no boats and no scouts and no anything.

16:56SpeakerYeah, there's a certain solitude to that that, you know, is certainly worth appreciating, right?

17:02BubblemanAbsolutely. That's definitely a lake that I have to get myself on from back in the day when fish would raise money for Lake Champlain. God, I feel like that was in the 90s.

17:14SpeakerYeah, yeah, yeah. They're killing it this weekend, right? They're playing in Folsom Field out in Boulder, Colorado. Got a whole bunch of friends out there.

17:23BubblemanHow does that feel that you're not there?

17:26SpeakerYou know, we thought about going because, yeah, it's my wife's birthday this weekend. So we were going to go. And but, yeah, you know, as it turns out, we got a little bit of bad news. One of our dogs has got a growth on its spleen. We knew he was having some difficulty. We didn't exactly know what it was, but turns out it's. He's got a lot of what are called lipomas, which are just sort of like fatty deposits.

17:55SpeakerYou'll see this on older dogs. They just start getting bumps, right? Lucy had a lumpy head, right? So a lot of dogs get these fatty deposits and they end up just being collections of fat cells, but sometimes they can't. They can get tumorous. And so he's had certain ones removed because they can aspirate them and find out that they are tumorous. But this growth on his spleen, the dog's spleen is about eight centimeters long and the growth is about four centimeters.

18:31SpeakerSo it's about halfway up the side of the spleen. Thank you so much for joining us.

18:55SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

19:25SpeakerNever pass up an educational moment. What does the spleen do, right? Right. It doesn't make insulin, right? I thought when I first thought, oh yeah, the spleen makes it. No, that's in the pancreas. Yeah, so what the spleen does... Oh, I should know this. It filters. Yeah, it is, it is a filter. It's kind of like the liver, but it's also, it has to do with the formation of blood cells and blood cells are actually formed in the bone marrow themselves, but they're kind of directed through the spleen.

19:58SpeakerAnd the thing was, is like, we didn't know, can the dog live without a spleen? And I guess you can, I mean, a dog can live At that point, you're like, OK, well, what kind of quality of life is there? You know, we thought right when we got this prognosis, oh, he's got a growth on his spleen. Let's get prepared to put him down. But he seems to be in really good spirits and he's he's eating, he's pooping, he's having good, you know.

20:27SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

20:45SpeakerOver $4,000. So, I mean, this isn't like something that, yeah, I mean, like we don't even spend that much on our health care, let alone on the dog's health care. So, yeah, so always difficult when you get to, he's 12 years old, you know, and you're like, okay, well, he was a rescue pup. You know, he's had a great life. We've, you know, my kids grew up with him as a dog.

21:09SpeakerAnd of course, they want me to just empty your savings account and just, you know, do whatever you need. Give the dog chemo, give the dog radiation, give the dog whatever it needs to stay alive.

21:22BubblemanBut what kind of quality of life? Well, that's the lesson, right? We teach them about sacrifice because our love of the dog is what... When's enough is enough. And how hard are you trying to convince yourself that the dog's not suffering? No, no, no, the dog's good. Like the dog's, the dog's good. I just was. And you're playing God. Like, are you going to put him down on Tuesday?

21:44SpeakerIt's very hard.

21:45BubblemanOh, dude, it's hard. It's impossible, actually. It's impossible. It's terrible. You always feel like you shouldn't have done it if you do it. And if you don't do it, you feel like you probably should have done it sooner. I had a friend in Winnipeg when I where I just was when I did my show from his house and he's got an older dog and its front legs have stopped working and so he's carrying it around to go to the bathroom and he's you know it's still he's like dude look at it it's like yeah it looks super happy and you know you're petting it and but it's kind of like we're getting to the point of no return here you know when I've When I put my little guy down a couple years ago, it was a terrible feeling and the family was crying and it was this whole experience.

22:26BubblemanAnd, you know, for my kids, it was kind of like the first death experience that they really experienced. And so it was sad and it was, there's definitely something to do that I'm not a big fan of vets and how vets really feed that vibe with the kids. You know, we can

22:43Etienne FontanKeep her alive. Like it's just a $6,000 surgery.

22:46BubblemanShe'll have a good quality of life. It's like, oof.

22:51SpeakerYeah, I mean, unlike a human patient, you can't communicate, like you don't really know all of the symptomology. Like you can't ask the dog, gee, do you feel a pain in your stomach or is there, you just have to go by their behavior. One thing we noticed right away is that our dog's gums and, um, A tongue was very pale. So you know how it's normally like pink and fleshy looking?

23:21SpeakerIt was looking super, super pale. And that's a sign that they're losing blood somewhere or that there's some kind of thing going wrong. You have to look at like any like panting, excess panting. is also kind of like a sign of nervousness we didn't know for years we have we're dealing with you know again a dog that you know we came from a rescue we don't know what its history was before so you're just almost literally playing a guessing game and we thought he had acid reflux so we were giving him a uh You know, Amprasol, which is just this, you know, acid reflux pill that humans take, right?

24:06SpeakerI mean, we didn't know if he needed it or not. Turns out he doesn't have acid reflux at all. We've been giving him this pill forever just because, again, we don't know. We just can't talk to the dog and say, well, what's bothering you, you know? That pill's not working. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, Colin.

24:26BubblemanBlue Sky Collin.

24:28Collin PalmerI'm on the Continental Divide right now. I thought I'd pop in for a sec. I'm in transit, but hopefully you guys can hear me. We can hear you.

24:37BubblemanWhat are you doing on the Continental Divide?

24:39Collin PalmerHiking around with two little kids, you know, having fun.

24:44BubblemanOkay.

24:44Collin PalmerJust jamming around. Yeah.

24:46BubblemanThat's what's up.

24:47Collin PalmerThat's what's up. We're at 11,307 feet right now. Damn. That's pretty up there. Yeah.

24:57BubblemanThat's almost twice the height of Whistler Mountain, to give people an idea. 100%. You probably drove the majority of the first 6,000. I guess with little kids, you probably drove the whole thing. All right, it's time for Dad. A little bit.

25:15Collin PalmerBut it's beautiful up here. It's amazing. It's just really good. I probably will lose connection. I lost twice already. Say hi. When I get stationary, I'll pop back in.

25:30BubblemanThat'd be awesome, dude. Super mellow, just me and Dr. Mark in here today. Putting some invites out to some other folks. Nice. Ripping some dabs. And hopefully, yeah, getting into some conversation.

25:44Etienne FontanLast week's conversation was just so fucking good.

25:47Collin PalmerOh, yeah, it was beautiful. It's amazing. Well, I'm going to wrangle my troops here and I'll be on in an hour.

25:56BubblemanBig love, boys. Sounds good, brother. We should still be here. We'll see what goes on. I just had to loosen my logos. I had to loosen the logos, Dr. Mark, with a fat rip. Now I'm ready to talk for three hours.

26:15SpeakerI wonder if he went to the fish show, right? Fish shows. Right? Out in Boulder, right? If he's in Colorado, maybe he did. Who knows? Is he in Colorado? Is that what he said? I think he said he's on the Continental Divide. That, to me, says Colorado.

26:32BubblemanRight. Well, it definitely follows the Rocky Mountains, but is the Continental Divide only in Colorado?

26:39SpeakerYeah, yeah, sure.

26:40BubblemanOkay, okay. I've never been to Colorado myself, so I don't know.

26:44SpeakerYeah, Front Range of the Rockies, it's like...

26:49SpeakerThe rain falls on one side, it flows to the Gulf and to the Mississippi. It flows the other way. It flows to the Colorado River in the Pacific.

26:58BubblemanSo the divide is the hydrological apex, right? So it seems like it goes through Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico. Yes, that's right. That's right. That's a, that's a pretty, I guess, I guess to be a continental divide, you can't just be in one state. Oh, no, not at all. It goes into Mexico. It goes up into Canada, up to Alaska. Holy shit.

27:29SpeakerWell, you, you know, that fish song, wet the wedge, right? Take the highway.

27:33BubblemanTake the highway to the great divide.

27:37SpeakerYeah, so in Wyoming, it's super interesting, Marcus, because it's actually, it's a plateau. So like you drive up on, like it's not just a ridge of mountains where, you know, if you pee on one side, it goes to the Atlantic, pee on the other side. Right. It's kind of cool. It's just this...

28:17SpeakerGeological distinction, right?

28:22BubblemanWell, I'm going to go check it out when I get my waiver here soon. I'm hoping that I get it in a month. Yeah, so tell us about that. When are you coming to the States? Well, I don't know. I have no plan to come, but I figure the second I get the waiver, the plan will come together pretty quick. I have partners in seven different states.

28:38BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

28:59BubblemanThat would be a month away from home to hit those seven states just for three or four days. It is a long time. So I'm going to have to break it up and figure it out and probably hit Michigan first and then from Michigan go out to some of the other spots. But I'm hoping August. August will be, I think, eight months since I applied for the waiver.

29:23BubblemanSo apparently they have to send it to Virginia. And I don't know if that's Homeland Security or DOJ or who it is, but it's Virginia for sure. And then they do all their, yeah, it wasn't FBI. He said it was federal, but it was like, I don't know. I probably remember the security. Yeah, it was Homeland was one, but I think he also said DOJ. I was like, oh, geez.

29:50BubblemanSo they just, you know, it goes to them. They do research. They punch a bunch of things into their computers. The border guard had a very good from what he saw on his computer, which obviously he didn't tell me when I was being denied at the border. He told me that I would get it. He said, oh, you're going to get it for sure. He said, I bet you get the five year because often they'll give you the one year, then they'll give you a two year, then they'll give you a five year and you have to pay each time.

30:15BubblemanAnd he said, when they're really not worried about you at all, they give you the five year. So that's when you know you've he says you haven't been here for like 30 years and you haven't been committing crime. So you should be good. I was like, exactly. Pretty excited about it. I'm not going to lie. Like coming down to the U.S. is a big deal, man. Well, certainly.

30:36SpeakerYeah.

30:36BubblemanI mean, how many years has it been? Like almost 30. I was at Fish at the Gorge in 98. Yeah, there you go. Wow. That's been a while, right? I know. That's been a while. Dude, lifetimes ago. Are you kidding me? Holy smokes. Yeah. What do you think of this mullet I got going on? Not bad, eh, Dr. Mark?

30:57SpeakerYeah, I don't know. Takes you back to the 90s, right?

31:01BubblemanWell, it's pretty long on top as well, so it's not really a mullet. It's only a mullet if I put it under the hat and make it pretend mullet. It's a pretend mullet. So what are you puffing on over there?

31:12SpeakerUh, right now, nothing. I just ran down here to get the thing. Let's see. I should, um, I got my Puffco upstairs. Um, I'm totally, I'm not ready to do this. That's awesome. Coming on for a little while. I got my family coming over here in just a couple hours. So I'm going to have to duck soon. But, you know. No problem. I'm committed.

31:40BubblemanDude, I'm committed to doing Hash Church by myself today. I don't have a problem with it. I feel like if I let it happen. The possibility of something magical occurring, whether it's, you know, someone that hasn't come on before, whether it's just like, you know, I'm just sending mess. I'm just sending the links out on Instagram. And I mentioned to the group, I sent this out very late last night.

32:03BubblemanSometimes I forget. I wish on Sunday night I could resend the invite for the new show, have it up and running. And that's kind of what I'm working on doing. But yeah. I love the little bit of laissez-faire aspect of Hash Church in the sense that it's, you know, it doesn't have to be as serious as a heart attack, although sometimes the information that we release is as serious as a heart attack.

32:29BubblemanThe overall experience does not have to be like that. So yeah, I'll just sit here and smash dabs into oblivion and talk about anything that comes to mind. You know, really mostly the excitement of Of all these new projects of getting back into Canada, I've got a group I'm so, so close with right now to get back into Canada, which I'm quite excited. It sucks to not be in my own market.

32:57BubblemanYou know, like I should be in the Canadian market, but I'll tell you, it was a wicked, wicked hard market to be in for a long time.

33:08SpeakerIt's only just... What's the difference between the Canadian market and where you're working in the US market?

33:18BubblemanI mean, is it just... Well, there's pretty massive differences. Like just to give you a really basic idea, all of our packaging looks like this in the Canadian market. This same product in the American market looks like this. So that's just the base, base, base. Look at the size of my logo on this, the B versus this. This B cannot be bigger than this cannabis leaf. Your cannabis leaf has to be bigger than your...

33:48BubblemanSo all this bullshit, you can't advertise, you can't do this, you can't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The main thing is in Canada, if I have a partner, that partner has to be the right partner because they're for all of Canada. It's an exclusivity for all of Canada. In the US, I have state deals that are exclusive. So I can have upwards of... I mean, I could have 30 to 50 partners down in the US, especially because...

34:13BubblemanPartners don't always want to pick up my whole SKU range, so I tell them you have exclusivity and first right of refusal for the SKUs in your state. The ones that you don't choose, I will go make other deals with. So I could have four people in New York as partners because these guys wanted these three SKUs, these guys wanted these two SKUs, these guys only wanted one, and these guys wanted five.

34:37BubblemanAnd then I can cover the gamut that way. So the US is, because it's not federal, it's broken up into compartmentalization. And that can both work for and against you. It's nice to have a multitude of partners so you can see who's moving the best and who's doing the most exceptional job. And then you can take what they're doing and sort of bring it back to your other partnerships and groups.

35:02BubblemanIn Canada, it's one group. So you got to make sure the group you're picking is seriously organized and has the right team. Now the sharp end of the Canadian sword is that when you get into a new market, say a province, you get the whole province. So if you if Ontario accepts your SKUs, you are now selling to Ontario and they might buy, you know, 100 grand or 150 grand, they might buy 20 grand.

35:28BubblemanUh, or 10 grand, but whatever they buy, it now goes into Ontario. Now, any store, any of the 1500 stores in Ontario can go on the computer on purchase day and see that your products just came in and they can buy them if they like. So, you know, in the U S it's not like that. When I get into a state with a new state partner, I don't automatically am selling to the state, which houses everything and then sells it out too.

35:54BubblemanCause that's only how Canada does it. Which can work against you as well, because if they say no to your SKU, that's an entire province of people you are no longer able to sell to if your SKU gets bounced. So I like the difference between the two. In Canada, it took me a lot longer to find the partner. I had to find the most exceptional partner, the people who have All their shit together.

36:17BubblemanThey've dotted all their I's. They've crossed all their T's. Everything is perfect. And they have the bandwidth and the capability and the teams to execute and popularize my brand. That took years to find. There's tons of people that want to do my brand. There's very few that want to do it right. And so I learned that actually. Thank you so much for joining us.

36:56BubblemanI sign up deals. I make it really easy for both parties to get in and out of. And we worked out, we tried in Washington. Washington didn't really pan out. So we ended that relationship amicably. We went to go in Oregon not too long ago. And just as we were about to sign the deal, they lost their farm. Like they ended up getting some, not CRA, but whatever revenue can, IRS.

37:22BubblemanThey ended up losing their farm. So, you know, it's good to make it so it's amicable and it's not like you're suing people soon after you've signed a contract. I just I really like the idea of getting into partnerships and not like rushing through them, but recognizing what's wrong. I got to be honest, like Tony taught me this more than anything, you know, because my partnership with Tony soured so terribly when it went bad that I learned a lot from it actually.

37:51BubblemanAnd I certainly don't resent him and I don't blame him. I was a part of it as much as he was a part of it, but I learned a lot from it and I learned not to allow partnerships to drag on when they're long dead. I learned to pay attention to red flags. I learned to just execute quicker when things aren't going the way you want them to go, not be so patient.

38:15BubblemanAnd I also learned not to allow, because I want to be friends with my partners, but not to allow friendship to lower or affect the integrity of the partnership and the business. And I think sometimes that that can happen, um, So yeah, I learned a lot from it and now I'm in a better place because of it. And I got some great partners. Shout out to Marshall and Dread in Illinois.

38:43BubblemanShout out to Cabo and Clover in Oklahoma. Shout out to Ted in Missouri. Shout out to Ted and Ryan and Daniel in Colorado. Shout out to Daniel in New Mexico. Shout out to Mike and Steve and Ryan in Michigan. And shout out to Seth and Sean and team in Maryland. I think that is the gamut. It's hard sometimes. You guys have a lot of states down there.

39:12SpeakerYeah, there's 50 of them. Jesus. So how, like, if there's people who are listening who make good hash and grow good weed and they want to be your partner, like how, I think we've talked about this on an episode, like how do you evaluate new partnerships and how do people, like, do you approach them or do they approach you? I don't approach anyone. It's a combination of both, right?

39:39BubblemanWell, I've already approached them in the sense that the people who know, first of all, a very small percentage of people even know who I am. And that percentage of people is the group of people that I rely on. Those people often have jobs at facilities. They might be the main hash maker. They might be a hash maker that just got hired. But those are my cheerleaders.

40:02BubblemanAnd when I get a proponent like that, who's actually a good hash maker and he's being listened to by his team, nine out of 10 times, that guy will bring me to the table. And there's a few reasons why. A, he wants to get under those bubble man SOPs. He's already learned a lot from me and the internet, but if he can be doing my brand You know, he's like, look, if I can bring your brand into my state and introduce you to my team, A, I'm going to be the hash maker to run that brand for sure.

40:34BubblemanI'm going to get some goodwill with my team if the business goes well, if they like you, if they sign a deal and I'm the one that brought you to the table. I tell people all the time, you could certainly. So that's kind of that spark of passion. Basically, the people who watch this show, Dr. Mark, our audience, right? The people who see you at a grocery store and they're like...

41:12BubblemanDr. Mark, what up, dude? Those people, when they work at facilities, and I'm guaranteeing sure it would be the same if you were to do the same idea that I'm doing, and I know you do it to a degree already, but people that know who you are, that have been impressed with you for years, would of course want to work with you. And if they knew they could broker you into their facility, even to consult or to create products or to bring knowledge, they would.

41:39BubblemanAnd so that's what happens to me. I end up getting in front of these leadership teams and they don't exactly know who I am, but I can convince them what they need to hear. And because it's, it's truth, rosin products have, you know, solventless products have large margins. I bring a variety of products to the, to the table. A lot of the hash makers are like, let's press at 140 Fahrenheit and get a much smaller return and have the Instagram podium.

42:05BubblemanAnd I spent 25 years in the podium and yeah, let's create the best to create the best. Now I'm more of the understanding of business that like, yes, we should have podiums, but we should have podiums in every caliber of product, not just the highest grade. What about like a farmer's grade hash, like a traditional temple ball? Well, You know, you don't make temple balls at a bubble hash that are 71% THC.

42:30BubblemanThe people who have smoked those in the past, that's not going to check the box for them. They need it to check all the boxes of nostalgia. So I started creating these nostalgia products. Brick hashes, temple balls. I created that pure, didn't create, but worked with my friend from the Kootenays there who originally created the pure hash joint. So we sell that pure hash joint, the wraps, we sell the hash hits, breaking those up.

42:57BubblemanHash hits is certainly not a, what I would call a podium. Like if you brought hash hits and entered a legends of hash with it, it wouldn't even place. But that doesn't mean the product itself isn't exceptional in its own right. It serves a much broader range of people than dabs do. And it's super, super convenient, unlike dabs, unless you have a Puffco, which is, you know, still $100 to $400 in order for you to have that for you to have a hash hit.

43:26BubblemanAll you need is a lighter. You just grab a lighter. We light it up. It's just a little tube. We're doing ceramic bowls now. So all of these ones are still the stainless bowls, but we're doing ceramic ones now.

43:39SpeakerIn states that don't allow consumption, like there's a couple states down here where it's kind of like they sell flour and they assume that everyone's got like a volcano or, you know, a Right. You know, or vaporizer or something like that. You know, it's like so there's still, again, prohibition against combustion of any kind. Like in Pennsylvania, I know you can get you can get hash, you can get concentrates.

44:11SpeakerAnd I know that they assume that you're consuming the concentrate by heating it up, but you're still they don't allow You know, smoking. So they don't allow, like, there's no pre-roll market there. Which is kind of crazy. That's kind of like a pre-roll, right? That means combustion, right?

44:35BubblemanOh, it's combustion. Yeah, you have a 0.2 of a gram of hash right in the tip, and you're smoking hash, 100% combustion.

44:43SpeakerYeah, because I always thought, you know, again, you know, I don't know. The whole notion of like the medical market was that the doctors don't like combustion. They don't like inhalation, right?

45:00BubblemanYou know, but but in their defense, they do like oxycodone and it's killed millions of people. So we got it. And I, you know, I'm not against doctors. I always say in Western medicine, too, if I ripped my arm off today, I would be there praising those people and the job that they do when it comes to trauma and emergency. I'm so very, very impressed with it.

45:24BubblemanThe problem with, you know, It's the comparison because you can't imagine combustion could be a medicinal thing. Well, I'll tell you, you watch the David Suzuki, The Nature of Things, where he came here to the Compassion Club and he interviewed my friend Crash, who's 26 years old at the time and had advanced MS, shaken like a motherfucker. I'm telling you, you would be tired just watching this man shake, Mark.

45:48BubblemanYou can't help but tear up. He's just, he's shaking all the time. Like he's basically having a seizure. He's basically having a seizure all the time. He can't talk. If you put a glass bong next to his mouth, he would chip his tooth and break the pipe. Then they roll him up this fatty gagger with hash and oil and weed. He's smoking it and his head's shaking and Hillary Black is trying to hold it in his mouth and he's shaking and he's going back and forth.

46:14BubblemanHe's literally talking. This is how he speaks.

46:21BubblemanHe just gets stuck on every syllable. He smokes like three or four puffs of that joint. And I'm telling you, he was like this at the start. He's now like this. And he's like, as you can see, I'm able to talk now. And that's just him coming out of it. Once he gets a little more high, he's not quite speaking like you or I. There's still a choppiness to the cadence of his voice.

46:47BubblemanBut man, I'm telling you, it's the miracle of miracles. No one could be against medicinal cannabis being used Thank you for watching.

47:18BubblemanNo one would acknowledge that naphtha is a medicinal solvent, especially filled with lead and rust inhibitor that wasn't even guaranteed. He wasn't distilling it out. And he still, I mean, butane was the same way. People were shrinking cancers out of their body using butane oil before they were removing the ethyl mercaptanes. Yeah.

47:42BubblemanSo the fact is the plant is so bloody medicinal that, yeah. It overcomes all that. It seems to. I mean, why do cannabis smokers, I smoked so much, dude. And I'll tell you, it was Steve Cubby. I don't know if you know Steve Cubby, but he was a big proponent of cannabis back in the day in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. And Thank you so much for joining us.

48:32BubblemanThey just dissolve, right? There's just too much adrenaline pumping through. It's constant adrenaline. This fucking guy would smoke. I'm telling you like 50 joints a day. And when I met him, I was like, I wanted to turn him onto the bubble and be like, dude, that's too much. Like you can't, like, there's no way smoking 50 joints a day is healthy. Like, it's just not like, that's not good.

48:52BubblemanAnd so he goes down, this is a couple of years after I know him. He's like, I'm going down. And I can't remember the one. I think you guys have a couple of down there. Mayo Clinic might be one of them where you go to this expensive hospital and you pay like 40 grand or 25 grand or whatever. And they just do a test. On every aspect of your body, all these multimillion dollar machines, they tested his lungs, his eyes, his everything.

49:15BubblemanAnd I'll never forget it because he showed me the test. His lungs, they set him up to this giant machine and he was blown into this machine and he was 56 years old at the time. And his report came back that he had the lungs of a 25-year-old Olympic swimmer. This is a guy that smoked 50 joints a day. And the reason he was smoking the joints was to reduce the production of adrenaline in his body.

49:50BubblemanAnd it was working. There just was no doubt about it that it was, that he was not, well, he lived, he was the oldest living person with that disease, I believe, in North America. That had ever, you know, because he ended up living till, I think he was just under 70 years old. And the average age was 30.

50:08SpeakerProbably the benchmark, right? I mean, look at Michael Phelps, right?

50:13BubblemanYeah. Well, they have a, they test them all and then they have categories. So when you go get certain things tested, they can tell you like, oh, you're like, you know, you're the equivalent of a, of a 65 year old smoker, or you're the equivalent of a 25 year old Olympic swimmer. Those are very different things.

50:32SpeakerYeah, I know. Swimmers are, are incredible. I, I did a little bit, uh, after she was on that episode with us, I did a little bit of, uh, yeah, of, uh, Homework on that lady who was on.

50:46BubblemanAnd she's a badass. Dude, Amy's a total badass. We want to have her on again. I mean, do you remember when I said, what do you do? You win all the gold medals and then what? You get on the Wheaties box and she's like...

51:00BubblemanI couldn't believe when she pulled the Wheaties box out. There's a very small percentage of human beings that have lived on earth who have been on the Wheaties box. I did the math. It was an extremely, it was like, I can't remember if it was 18 or 27 or what it was, but it was a very low number when you think of the 8 billion people who are alive.

51:23BubblemanYeah.

51:24SpeakerWell, and then all the, all the memes, right? Wheaties, right? Oh, of course. Could have a lot of fun with that.

51:33BubblemanNo, it's amazing.

51:34SpeakerNo, I mean, yeah, I, you know, just again, the exciting talk that we saw down at CanMed, which basically shows that, you know, your brains are wired for whole plant medicine and your brain can tell synthetic D8 from whole plant medicine. And it's all about the terpenes and Yeah, I think it would be really cool to really get a lot more of that research done. I mean, it's just so cool to look at like things that actually have an effect and it's not just some superfluous correlation.

52:16SpeakerI mean, it's definitely one thing is leading to the other. This level of psychoactivity, um, That he was measuring, again, doesn't have anything to do with THC content, has more to do with terpenes and everything that we know, right?

52:35BubblemanThis is the book that Jeremy shouted out by Luca Turin, The Secret of Scent, Adventures in Perfume and the Science of Smell. So I ordered this the other day. And I'm going to go down the rabbit hole of aroma and scent. And yeah, I'm excited about it, man. I just love listening to Ian and Nick and Jeremy break it down. Jeremy's under NDA, but if he wasn't, he would have been sharing A whole different level of stuff.

53:08BubblemanI think this is the most exciting direction that cannabis is taking right now and it's undeniably taking the direction. I think it might be what we're looking for in regards to how cannabis is purchased and how it is sold. So we can get away from COAs and THC numbers. If THC could just be the base and people could understand that really, and it shouldn't be difficult because people already understand this at the most basic core of their nature.

53:39BubblemanWhen they go pick a drink, they pick it based on a flavor profile that they like. When they pick gum, when they pick like any sort of anything, it's based on how it tastes. Cannabis is, you know, going to be much the same, how it smells and tastes, how close those two are together, the smell to the taste.

53:59SpeakerYeah, absolutely. I mean, it should be, it should be like a sommelier, like, like a wine kind of thing, but, you know, I mean, not to be biblical, but it is, you know, the fruit of the vine and the work of human hands. It's that intersection between, you know, artisanal You know, craftsmanship when it comes to not just cultivating, but, you know, picking the apples, which is hash making, you know?

54:26SpeakerWell, that's just it. Yeah. You're getting into frequency. You know, Jeremy, you know, I tell you what, I mean, when I first saw True Terpenes and the way that they were advertising and pushing, you know, it was almost like over the top, like, oh, these are botanical terpenes, right? Like they're not necessarily derived from cannabis, but they're marketing him to be added to cannabis products. So it's good that they have people like Ethan and Jeremy, who, again, we know just from Hash Church and just everything that they've done that these two people are true to the plant and true to the, you know, To the nature of what cannabis is and aren't just going to take a paycheck to promote, you know, snake oil to dilute your vape pens with, you know what I mean?

55:26SpeakerYeah. I mean, I think the interesting aspect about these thiols, Marcus, is that They're so fleeting and there's so much less of them in cannabis than say terpenes, which are in there around percent, half a percent, fraction of a percent. These things are in there as a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent. They're there so... Thank you for joining us.

56:16Speakerare indicators of freshness. How fresh is this cannabis? Well, measure your thiol content. That'll tell you. The longer that cannabis or hash has been sticking around, the more likely it's lost some of these most volatile components, right? It totally makes sense, right? So it could be used as kind of like a... A metric or an indicator on how fresh cannabis is when it's cannabis is stored, you know, like in a warehouse and, you know, turkey bags or wherever, just in big plastic bins.

56:58SpeakerI mean, shit's going to degrade and you're going to lose. Now, it's not all cannabis is created equal. So I think some varieties and the way that they're trimmed and prepared might have more higher susceptibility to loss of those compounds because you're increasing surface area and anything that's exposed to air ultimately is exposed to oxygen and so those thiols can oxidize up and when that happens it changes their flavor Changes their volatility.

57:38SpeakerThere's lots of things that could happen, you know? So it's, yeah. So those, those compounds, the, the, the butene thiols and whatnot, those things which are in there in just like parts per million and parts per billion concentration, which is really difficult to reliably measure in a testing lab. But, you know, our noses.

58:02BubblemanWell, that becomes the big problem right there. And that's that's kind of why when we first started talking about this show, Nick mentioned the analytical chemists that put together the equipment that perceived the files and phthalates that they were identifying at Yakima. And, you know, cause he hadn't mentioned them before. And then when I said, let's get you on, let's get you on. He said, well, listen, like I, you know, I was a part of that work, but really these guys did it.

58:28BubblemanThey created the equipment. They were running the equipment. And I really wanted to get them on there because I thought getting, and I still do, I want to do another show as quick as possible where, you know, they can come on and talk a little bit about putting that analytical equipment together because he said it was like a Frankenstein, you know, it was like putting a multitude of pieces of equipment together to create this super sensitive capability of perceiving, you know, beyond the parts per billion.

58:58BubblemanThat's the real problem right now. None of these cannabis labs are going to be able to, you know, tell you if you have 3-methyl-2-butane-1-thiol or any other prenatalated volatile sulfur compounds for that matter. They just don't have the ability to perceive that small. And I think it was okay because the cannabis industry just thought, oh, aromas, those are just terps. And yeah, this is like 3% terps.

59:24BubblemanSo it's like, why would we talk about something that was 0.0001% when there's 1.6% D-limonene? So obviously, that's what we're smelling.

59:38SpeakerBecause those things are so much more powerful. All. Well, well, really, if you.

59:46BubblemanYeah, well, it's us. I don't know. I don't know if it's them or us or both, but it's like our ability to perceive those compounds are so fucking sensitive. Yeah. So what you have. Why would that be, Marcus? Well, the only the only thing that I can think of is. It's almost like a genetic memory, like the groundhog that's never seen a hawk shadow before, but when the hawk shadow goes over.

1:00:10SpeakerWhy do you think humans evolve with an acute sense of smell of shit? Well, because if you shit where you eat, you die. That's right.

1:00:20BubblemanThat's right. That's right.

1:00:22SpeakerOr if you eat rancid meat, if you eat rancid meat, you'll die. If you aren't of the right caliber of hygiene, let's call it that, you can die. So yes. So I think our noses have evolved. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you next time.

1:00:58SpeakerThank you. Thank you.

1:01:20Speakeryou know being that basically said hey man boy this stuff smells really interesting let me and they probably ate it right i imagine they smelled it and they're like wow that probably tastes good enough to eat let me try eating that right there's enough fruity and citrus notes in there that they started eating it then they got it all over their fingers then the next thing they know they're like hi so

1:01:46SpeakerYeah, I mean, interesting to think about the prehistoric evolutionary aspect of humans' interactions with the plant, right? It's absolutely incredible.

1:01:58BubblemanI've just been asking Grok what it knows about thiols and thiolates and cannabis. It printed up about six pages of very interesting reading. I'll try to post it in the description of the video at the end. And then I just asked it about why humans are so sensitive in the olfactory to scatol and to other related sulfur-containing compounds. And it's just like, It's like, yeah, we can smell it in parts per billion or even parts per trillion.

1:02:28BubblemanWe can detect it in extremely low concentrates, making its smell seem disproportionately intense relative to its actual presence in the environment, which is quite something. Thank you for watching.

1:03:01SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

1:03:30SpeakerWhen they crack petroleum, petroleum is like really high molecular weight. And what they're trying to get down to is something like gasoline, which is really low molecular weight. And so the way that they do that is through this process called cracking. And in that cracking process, they have to manage Thank you.

1:04:10SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

1:04:25SpeakerWood pulp. But to make a long story short, Marcus, it's kind of crazy because you think of it like this too, like, like all those sulfur compounds. In fact, the things that they're putting into natural gas to flavor it. So, you know, when you left a burner on, oh my gosh, our noses could smell at very, very low concentrations. And those are way below the Explosion limit for natural gas.

1:04:55SpeakerSo it's thought of that someone would smell that gas leak before turn off the burner or whatever.

1:05:01BubblemanAnd that's mercaptans. That's what vials are.

1:05:05SpeakerThey're mercaptans. And those are intentionally added back to what's called LMP, which is liquid natural petroleum, which is a mixture of just ethane,

1:05:21BubblemanYeah, it's illegal to move odorless gas through cities. That's right. That's the driving force, at least behind, oh, we're going to need to rotten egg up the propane.

1:05:36SpeakerWhen you see those big tankers either on the highway or on rail cars, yeah, those have to be... Flavored. And I guess the other thing is so like.

1:05:46BubblemanDude, imagine, wouldn't it be interesting to find how little they put in into each one of those giant containers, whatever they are, 5,000 gallons or what? I'm not sure exactly what they are.

1:05:56SpeakerWell, it's so little. It's like, again, it's parts per million or parts per billion. But so check this out where I was going with this.

1:06:03BubblemanYou think it's an ML?

1:06:14SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

1:06:41BubblemanSo he started, you know, feeling pretty bad about that. He never in a million years thought that would happen. And then he's the first person I'm telling you, 25 for 24 years ago, he sent me information on Ethelmer Capitan, the particular ones that were going into these compounds. And yeah, he just brought it. He broke it all down and he wanted me to share the information. I was like, dude, nobody is going to listen to me about this.

1:07:07BubblemanI'll bring you on my show. You can tell them.

1:07:09SpeakerJohn was definitely I mean he was on to something and he knew a lot of engineering and thermodynamics without actually learning it in a classroom right he learned it from just from just doing it right and so what what he had realized is that if you take If you take butane through, so he was his system, right? His big, big tank with the big recovery thing, blah, blah, blah, whatever, that he would get like this mystery oil.

1:07:44SpeakerLike from running a blank. So he, it would leave that behind. Correct.

1:07:49BubblemanWhile he distilled. The mystery.

1:07:52SpeakerSo what he was asking me about, he goes, Mark, you're a chemist. You could help me figure this out. Once I distill that butane and it leaves all the heavies behind, isn't that butane now clean? I'm like, well, yeah, theoretically you've now distilled it once. As long as you remove those heavies from the thing, you could, And that was right around the time, oh my God, John had a lot of fun with this guy.

1:08:22SpeakerRemember the extractor man or Mr. Mr. Extractor? This guy, yeah, this guy out of Washington State.

1:08:32BubblemanOh, I do remember him. He'd stand in front of the lab-like table. Yeah, a bunch of YouTube videos. Yes. With two girls with bikinis and black gloves. I was paying attention to Jim Frayer, the chemist at this time. Yeah, Jim.

1:08:46SpeakerIs Jim still around? We've got to get Jim back on, right?

1:08:48BubblemanWell, I don't know if Jim is still around. I don't see him posting anywhere, and I have a bit of a bad feeling, but he had exceptional information and knowledge.

1:08:58SpeakerYeah, he did. Jim was a really smart guy. I remember meeting him, maybe it was on the Adam Dunn show several years ago, because I think those guys knew him. But Indra and that Mr. Extractor guy had, I don't know, they were like suing each other or whatever, but that Mr. Extractor guy, the guy with the black gloves, had all kinds of, yeah, like... Claims about how he had patented the process and all these people who are selling closed loop extractors or violating his patent.

1:09:36SpeakerAll this other crap. But that's right around the time that, again, they figured out that there is this so-called mystery oil. So the mystery oil is after you do that first distillation of your store-bought butane, what you're leaving behind in your tank is are the heavies and they had early on sent me samples because they're like hey mark you're a chemist you could figure this shit out what's in there right so there is a whole thread on 4200 and uh god what was one of those other online things i think it's That's been since taken down.

1:10:14SpeakerThat talked again about like all the shit that's in that mystery oil. And it's like lubricants. It's like, yeah, corrosion inhibitors. You know, when they connect these valves, Marcus, I guess.

1:10:28Bryan Best Friend FarmsBingo, the lube. There's oil that goes into that little.

1:10:33SpeakerYeah, joint that calls back. So there's a little bit of that shit in it. So there's a lot of this high boiling crap in there.

1:10:41BubblemanAnd that was all in the first, you know, and my my theory of that, and I have this theory for a very specific reason, because my My partner back in the day, Martin, who started Manitoba Harvest, the big hemp company, he was my hemp activist partner in Manitoba back in the day. And he had a father-in-law named Harvey. And Harvey was in the chemical business. And Harvey was kind of becoming more conscious.

1:11:09BubblemanAnd, you know, he was getting to the point where he realized there was only really, he had Thank you for watching.

1:11:29BubblemanOr he had like guys in the business that were like, there's ways to break these components down to parts per million and billion and put them into solvents. And he was like, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, you can put them into naphtha. You can put them into propane and butane. You can put them into all these different things and you can get rid of mountains of this stuff by people just burning it off in their camping stoves.

1:11:54BubblemanAnd I was just like, that is not good, you know, because I also had seen when, you know, back in the 90s, when my buddy from the Kootenays came here, it was actually two doors down and he made red oil for the first time. And I hadn't really seen the process. And really the main thing he was doing was he was filtering through activated charcoal to remove pigment and color.

1:12:16BubblemanAnd he could go from a blackish greenish oil to a red oil and from red, he could go to honey. He would lose an enormous amount of oil like it was. What was his extraction solvent? Well, this is what I'm about to tell you. So he was using naphtha, but he was distilling it. And the shit that he was taking out of naphtha, there is no doubt about it, Dr. Mark, it is toxic waste.

1:12:40BubblemanThat fucking lead, that lead and rust inhibitor, I don't know what the fuck that is. It's like, it looked like mercury, but it had more of an electric bluish. If you ever look at naphtha and you pour it into a glass, it'll have this electric, this sort of light greenish blue tinge, and that's what that shit is. And when you pull it out and you concentrate it, He was like, don't touch it.

1:13:03BubblemanDon't even touch it. And I was like, dude, what the fuck do you do with that now? You've just created toxic waste. He's like, well, yeah, I will say that it's not really easy to deal with. Once you clean this shit out, you can't just go throw it in a river or a lake. He says, if I dump this on the lawn here, it'll kill a spot for like five feet in a circle.

1:13:26BubblemanHe's like, this is really bad shit.

1:13:29SpeakerLighter fluid, right? It's lighter fluid.

1:13:32BubblemanWell, once it was distilled, there was no presence of it anymore. But that shit, the heavies that you talk about, concentrating that into your oil and smoking it, it just can't be good, dude.

1:13:45SpeakerIt can't be good. No. And you got to know that early on, that's exactly probably what they were doing. You know, um, You know, it's different when you're in an area of the world.

1:14:00SpeakerYou know, I don't know what made me think about this, but just in India, you know, again, when you're in areas of the world where food is scarce and shit is scarce, they take the oil out of telephone pole transformers to cook with it.

1:14:22BubblemanYeah, what the fuck?

1:14:23SpeakerI know, dude. Some of that stuff is like PCB and all kinds of other latent crap. But when you're in a different part of the world and it's like, oh my God, what's inside those five gallon buckets at the top of telephone poles? Oh, there's oil in there. Shit. Let's figure out how we could fry pig's asshole in there and make it good or something. I don't know.

1:14:46BubblemanWell, I just asked Grok as well what mystery oil is in butane and it gave me a real... I'm going to post all of these in the Hash Church group on Facebook because this is like number one, long chain hydrocarbons, alkanes and alkenes, sulfur compounds, mercaptans and thiols, lubricants and machinery oils, other impurities like... Trace contaminants such as residues from gaskets or seals, cyclohexane, isocinato may also be present, likely introduced during the canning process.

1:15:19BubblemanSome sources suggest that low quality butane cans may contain propellants or other enlisted additives often labels as the 1%. Yeah, I didn't tell you the evil part of the guy who was told he could put like these things into solvents to get rid of them. They also create very specific recipes and it becomes, it's not patented. It's like know-how, like the Coca-Cola recipe. And then you don't get to know what's in it because otherwise it's the know-how.

1:15:51BubblemanAnd I also thought that was like, I just didn't like the sound of that, whether it was real or not. I thought that's nefarious. Wow, that was Ryan Lee, Best Friend Farms, and Josh from Dragonfly Earth Medicine who just joined us all simultaneously. Hello, gents.

1:16:06Etienne FontanHowdy.

1:16:08BubblemanHowdy, howdy. Kelly's here.

1:16:11SpeakerHi, everybody.

1:16:13BubblemanHi, Kelly.

1:16:16SpeakerSo all you got to do is start talking about mystery oil and everybody comes out of the woodwork.

1:16:21BubblemanYeah, mystery oil. What's going on with that mystery oil? Well, the health risks of mystery oil are debated. The dose makes the poison. Ah, yes, the dose makes the poison. The old infamous, the dose makes the poison. Well, I'm ready for a dab. Happy to see you guys. So I came in all alone. I was talking alone for about five or 10 minutes. Dr. Mark texted me.

1:16:43BubblemanHe's like, yeah, I'm not coming in today. And then his wife is like, is he in there alone? I think he might be alone. You better get in there, Dr. Mark. I'll shuck the corn. Dr. Mark, yes. Thank you. Dr. Mark's wife for shucking the corn. Happy birthday to Cara. Yeah, happy birthday to Cara. In fact, I will take it a step up because anyone can wish Cara a happy birthday.

1:17:10BubblemanBut there are only a few people in this world, okay, that could wish her a hashy birthday. So hashy birthday to you, Cara. Hashy birthday to you. Bob Wham. I don't know where I got that hash, but I'll never forget it. It was such a spur of the moment. I have sent that picture of hash. Any of you that are my friends have received that picture of hash on your birthday, probably numerous times because I send it out to my friends.

1:17:43BubblemanAnd one day I remember I got that hash and it was in a Tupperware container. And I remember he had pushed the lid down so tough when I opened it, the lid was like embedded into the hash perfectly. But it was still like I always, you know, I have a little check when I want to check to see how self-pressed my hash is. I'll give it a little sweep with my finger to see if I can, you know, move the hash or if it's actually solidified.

1:18:07BubblemanAnd that hash actually moved. And I thought, wow, that's interesting. It's holding together, but it's also falling apart. So I like took the top off. And if you look at that picture again closely, you can see that it is actually on the top of a Tupperware case. You can see it on the bottom there. A lot of people don't see that the first time. And I just flipped it over and pulled the top off.

1:18:32BubblemanThis also, by the way, is the correct way to use Tupperware for anything that's not a liquid, like a soap. If you're doing like a piece of fish or a cake, you don't put it inside the Tupperware. You put it on the lid and then You close the lid over top of the top. That's how you properly use this shit. Anyway, I flipped this cake over and it stayed so perfectly.

1:18:53BubblemanI was like, oh my God, it looks like a cake. And I ran to go get a candle. This is another thing you have to know about me. Never would I ever want wax to be anywhere near my hash. I really sacrificed. I threw away about a gram of this hash just because the candle touched it. There was no melted wax in it, but I dug out the little area where the candle was just to sort of throw that away.

1:19:19BubblemanAnd after that, I tapped it with my finger and this whole thing just went poof. And just collapsed into a pile. So it was almost, and then I put a bubble box in the background, which gives that really nice sort of warm wood color that makes the picture also quite nice. So yeah, a little history behind the hash cake for all of you out there. How's everyone doing today, man?

1:19:47BubblemanWell, I'm good. I'm in the kootenays. You are in the Kootenays. I love the Kootenays. Middle of nowhere. Yeah, it's the best middle of nowhere ever, though. Plus, it's full of characters. Like, you could write a book. You could write a bunch of books on the characters that live in the Kootenays and their history and their little, their very unique pioneers, those Kootenights. Shout out to Dustin Sunflower.

1:20:19SpeakerDedicated to be at this remotely. It's a commitment, but people living off the land and doing some, there's some pretty beautiful things going on here. And just, you know, like where I am, I had to take a series of back roads to get here to you off of the main highways. And it's just, you're right out there, but you get right into the BC interior and the mountains and the lakes.

1:20:41SpeakerAnd it's just, dude, it's so incredible out here, as you know. It's special. And, and.

1:20:48BubblemanThank you for joining us.

1:21:05BubblemanYeah, but you also grow a lot of your food and produce a lot of that stuff. So that's kind of the payoff. I know one day if Char and I ever sell here in Lions Bay, our payoff will be good if we go to the Kootenays, if we go to the Okanagan, if we go to like Pemberton or, you know, Lillooet, north of Lillooet, Yalicum Valley and Tyot and then Goldbridge and Braylorn area.

1:21:31BubblemanIt's even cheaper up there. Those little mining towns. You can buy like I could buy an entire town right now called Braden near or Bradian near Braylorn, B.C. in near Yalicum Valley. And you can buy the whole town. There's like 16 houses up there right now. And it's like I think it's like one point three million or one point five million or something. It's insane.

1:21:54SpeakerIt's remote up there.

1:21:56BubblemanI mean, it's remote. Yeah, it's like it's probably three to three and a half hours from where I am right now.

1:22:03SpeakerIs that it?

1:22:04BubblemanYeah, well, you've got you've got an hour to Whistler. Then you've got like maybe another hour and a bit to Lillooet up the Duffy. And it is a very dangerous highway. So that highway all winter long is having, you know, landslides and snowslides and avalanches and whatnot. So it's like definitely people like die on that highway just driving their cars in the summer, too.

1:22:28SpeakerI mean, it's like that. Yeah. Right by Mount Curry. Yep, exactly. I came down there where the trailer was. Oof. The brakes were smoking. I had to stop and pour a bunch of water.

1:22:42BubblemanWell, I'll tell you the first time I ever went to Braylor and I brought my snowmobile, it was a brand new snowmobile. I was going to this event called the Backcountry Sennheiser Picnic. And my buddy from Sennheiser figured, convinced them to sponsor this backcountry maniac event called the Sennheiser Picnic. And so I got this brand new sled. I'm super nervous about it. I don't really know how to operate it.

1:23:07BubblemanI'm at my buddy Free's house and he's, and I'm like, I'm just going to take the sled Because it's winter up there. I'm just driving the sled down the road. It's all covered in snow and I'm just going to go to the pub and go see and everyone is like a sled pro. Like there's like Dan Treadway and his brother Dave who passed away a couple years ago in an avalanche RIP to Dave.

1:23:26BubblemanTreadway. But all of these like rock star sled guys, like people that are like the sled necks. Like if you punch in sled necks to YouTubes, those guys. And so I get on my sled and I turn it on and I like rip down to the pub. And I pull up to the pub and the guy standing there, he's holding a pitcher of beer. He's like, oh man, you didn't take your emergency brake off.

1:23:53BubblemanYour rotor's smoking. And I look and my rotor is orange. Like it's glowing, bro. And I didn't take the emergency brake off on the sled. Well, I completely pooched the brake. He right away just like poured his beer on my rotor. Thank you so much for watching.

1:24:35BubblemanLike no breaks whatsoever. I can't break the sled. So I'm just like, I had to learn quick how to turn the sled sideways and slide it down the mountain. And guess what? I did not have the skill to do that. So it was absolutely terrifying and freaky, but that's my break story. And yeah, I was an idiot and everyone laughed at me. Good times.

1:25:00BubblemanSometimes humble pie is the best kind of pie. You'll never do that again, that's for sure. I never will. I never will, dude. I'm so religious. I don't even let other people do it. When I see sleds around, I'm like, hey, is your emergency brake off? I got PTSD from that emergency brake situation.

1:25:18SpeakerWell, there's some definite like backcountry stuff here. You know, they got like the caskian and the hellski and all that nonsense. Oh, yeah.

1:25:25BubblemanIt's amazing up there for sure. Absolutely.

1:25:29Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd Snowmobile and Skidooing or whatever you want to call it. Well, it's not Skidooing because that's a brand name. But anyway, it's hard as hell. And our son Sky's amazing at it. I mean, he just, he rages and does every entries and the whole damn thing. But I mean, you kind of have to be like that in order to live in the area that we live in.

1:25:51BubblemanYou gotta be able to keep up, dude. Here's me on the Pemberton Ice Caps.

1:25:57Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThat's a great pick. No, it's just kind of running. It's running. Oh, you're cutting out. That's the truth. Our thing glitched. But it's been amazing spending time with Ryan and being at the house and walking around the farm and looking at all the greenhouses and all the plants and talking about everything.

1:26:16SpeakerYeah, it's super rare for people to come out and see us. You know, we have invitations out to all of our dear friends and family members. And Mr. Ryan Lee actually made it out there. It was really incredible to actually see him on screen. We're headed over to Kelowna for a business meeting right now. Josh and I are. And it's fun to see him at our house there.

1:26:41SpeakerThat's awesome. It's a pretty good deal, actually.

1:26:50SpeakerYeah. Beautiful here. We had a storm, you know, last night and lightning and It's just an incredible area. I mean, you know, anybody that's spent time in rural BC is, you know, pretty special. It's always the balance between loggers and hippies. Yep. You called it, dude. Like it's that consistent, constant battle. And it varies by like where you are in the province.

1:27:17BubblemanIt's the best combination. Yeah. It's Dan Treadway and Dave Treadway, who I just mentioned, the sled guys. They always shouted out the miners, the loggers, all the people that cut the roads that made it possible for them to enter the backcountry. They could never ignore those groups. You can't get into the backcountry on a sled without those logging roads being cut in. To the mountain. And so, you know, for the Pemberton ice caps, for a lot of that stuff, it's, yeah, you can't, I mean, dirt biking is the same way.

1:27:53BubblemanI would never have been able to see the province of British Columbia the way I have. And I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of kilometers of it on my dirt bike. You know, just ripping down these logging roads. And I was telling my, Char's got some family here right now and they're, you know, they're Manitobans, but they, they, they prepare to come to BC and they do like a massive three to four hour hike every single day that they're here.

1:28:19BubblemanThey've done a summit of a mountain and they were, they were sending, showing pictures. They did the Joffrey Lakes the other day. So for those of you that aren't familiar with Joffrey Lakes, it's up near Lillooet and it's, You know, probably one of the most beautiful. It's up there with the lakes in Banff, but, you know, obviously less people and might be able to share actually one picture of that lake because it is so damn beautiful.

1:28:44BubblemanLet me see if I can bring one up here real quick. So.

1:28:50Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineMiners, also the miners build crazy roads and it's a lot of times the mining companies that build the road right to the top of the peak. And that's the trippy thing. You're just like at the top of crazy mountains and all of a sudden you're just like, oh my God, there's a road that just keeps going up here and stuff. And this is Joffrey Lake. That's a pretty cool part.

1:29:12Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineSee ya.

1:29:13BubblemanYeah, just beautiful, epic. And they've just been doing this every day. Well, I told them the other day on my dirt bike, I could summit three to four epic lake views in an afternoon. Like full mountains, totally separate, all the way up to the top, six, seven thousand feet, swim in the lake, come down, do another one, have a puff, come down. So it's just this sort of sped up version.

1:29:38BubblemanI will always like love My dirt bike and my sled. And maybe one day they'll be electric and they won't be powered by fuel anymore. And that'll probably be a nice thing not to hear the brap brap. But part of me will also probably miss the brap brap because I feel like I'm a very good mix of hillbilly and hippie. Or Redneck and Hippie, whatever you want to call it.

1:30:02BubblemanI think it is a fun. I'll say this, Ryan. I'll say this. When I got to BC and I thought it was all the hippies that grew the best weed, I realized the people that I met that were growing the best weed were like hillbilly rednecks. They just like the amount of the amount of time and energy they were putting into it. I just didn't meet. I mean, you know, since then I've met Josh and Kelly and they're the hardest working hippies I know.

1:30:25BubblemanBut I'm telling you, some of these redneck dudes that are like living up in Lillooet and north of Lillooet and they just plant thousands of plants and they do the most ungodly amount of work. It's it's impressive. It's not lazy work growing cannabis. You know, if that's what you thought, probably it's best if you just buy a pound and flip eighths to make your money because growing it is not, not the same as flipping it.

1:30:54SpeakerJosh was putting in a blackout system on a greenhouse when I was showing up. He's always doing something, dude. It's non-fucking-stop. You can see it in the property. It's like there's, it's just non, it's just non-stop. It's a lifestyle. It's like you get up, And you do all your farm stuff all day and then you stop and you eat and you sleep and you start and do it again.

1:31:15SpeakerHomesteading. The only way you stop is if you have to go get supplies. It's really like... Or have an interview in Kelowna.

1:31:26Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineIt is a labor of love and all of our stuff is just handmade and so I mean it takes it takes a level of I guess detail, attention to detail, but at one point you just feel like, you know, it's chaos. But also it's also, you know, a symphony of poetry and beauty and all the plants and all the animals. And I guess we're just really possessed by it, all of us in our family.

1:31:54Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe work really hard, but I guess... Thank you so much for joining us.

1:32:17Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThank you so much for joining us.

1:32:39Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, we're creating a second farm, but it's one thing to create a regenerative or a polyculture or a biodynamic natural farm. And then it's another thing to maintain it. So once you have all the fertility and all the rocks and all the everything everywhere and beds made, you know, it takes a good amount of time to keep that fertile.

1:33:03SpeakerAnd, you know, for me, I feel like, excuse me, I'm over here smoking amazing hash. For me, I feel like, you know, if you're going to raise like fish and you're going to breed fish, you want to create the most amazing environment that you possibly can for them. You know, you don't put them in dirty water. You don't feed them stuff. You know, you want to get out on like to the world, like what your possibility is, you know, for growing fish and for me.

1:33:40SpeakerI felt like if we're going to be breeding cannabis, I wanted to really give the plants the absolute ultimate potential of what each team of our cultivar has individual. Brian has been ruling us and it's been really amazing already. We've learned so much from him being there, but Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm so happy to be here with you today. I'm so happy to be here with you today.

1:34:10SpeakerI'm so happy to be here with you today.

1:34:31SpeakerThey need, you know, good kind energy around them at all time and they want to feel good and they want to be in good soil and God forbid if they're too dry or wow if they're totally stressed out. So creating this sort of lovely environment is amazing and I always think about it.

1:34:51Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineIt's the sound of British Columbia family right there. You got the bikers going by.

1:34:55SpeakerBut it's hard for people to understand, at least it was for me. I didn't get it until I saw it. Like you can't, it's such an immersive whole systems approach where everything's living and integrated. It's hard to imagine when you come from conventional ag like I do. Because it looks like insanity chaos. But on a first glance, right but when you get in and you start working with the plants and you see how it's all working together and then you know josh is explaining to me all the system of how they start pulling certain plants out at certain times and you know you're freeing up space within the canopy as the as the plants are kind of growing into their flowering cycle and that they don't they don't water for the last two months Right, like all these really just crazy intent, like just things that seem so insane from a conventional agricultural standpoint.

1:35:50SpeakerBut it all works and it ends up producing this, you know, it's very different. It's just the whole production system is a different way of doing things. But it has its own selective pressure on the populations. It's just a different way of putting selective pressures on the populations. Right, which is what we're all doing when we're breeding, right? You're growing a bunch of individual plants in a family or a group, and then you either let your own criteria or the environment, environmental criteria, like push your population in a certain way.

1:36:23SpeakerAnd Kelly and Josh are doing that, like, you know, like little things like spreading the seeds in the beds, right, like right in the ground, which is not something that you would really see anywhere. Um, but you're having that environmental selection pressure on the seeds right from the beginning. So it's really, it's an interesting whole systems approach. That's like a lot more intricate than I really, I really understood it would be.

1:36:47SpeakerThat's pretty impressive.

1:36:49BubblemanWell, I'll tell you, I have been doing a similar thing, not in maintaining my property, but for the first time, really understanding that we have this acre, it's on a mountain, it's not a farm by any means, but I have a lot of room and I have a lot of areas and different Gardens that have been planted with beautiful plants. And I have spent the last just months in there cleaning out, trimming down my cedar trees, clearing out the forest, like mucking about in the garden, trimming, just having a blast taking care of my property.

1:37:26BubblemanAnd yeah, it's super meditative in the sense of... And sometimes it's really challenging because... It's not like you're just physically able to do everything you want to do. There's limitations where you require like prosthetics, 10 foot poles and ladders and like, you know, things that do up the ante on danger levels, especially when you're on a mountain. So definitely be careful out there when you're when you're farting around.

1:37:55BubblemanAnd I start getting it in my head like I just need to get to get those trees trimmed. And the next thing you know, I'm like climbing this cedar tree and my wife's on the deck like, come on, dude, get out of the tree like Don't do that.

1:38:06SpeakerThese guys are walking along, you know, the peaks of greenhouses and the troughs of greenhouses as they're putting out of this blackout system like the Flying Walendas or whatever. How else? It's, yeah. Flying Walendas. It's property. You got to come and check it out. When you see this property, you see 19 years of like essentially love slavery. Right. I've seen a ton of, I've seen a ton of BC properties and you know, they're always kind of, they all kind of have a similar flavor, but it's like the property's so new out in the mountains and there's already so much work to do.

1:38:41SpeakerIt's like, there's a lot of landscaping and things that just kind of are undone. Like it just looks wild. It's like, you know, half of a farm and weeds and grass. And there's always like a pile of rocks and, you know, a tree line somewhere, right? And it's not really done up. But this place is, there's flowers everywhere. There's like incredible greenhouse structures of all different types.

1:39:03SpeakerAnd like Josh was saying, it's all handmade. It's hand engineered. Like it's not, this is not like shantytown, like, you know, greenhouses. Like they're well built, but they're built with materials off the land. It's really incredible. So you've got to come out and check it out, Marcus. I don't think it'll blow your mind. Oh, trust me. I want to. Flowers everywhere. Kelly and Josh are constantly collecting seeds of all the plants.

1:39:30BubblemanWell, listen, they've sent me a giant bag of flowers that I had out yesterday. I opened it all up. And because I've spent the last like months clearing this mountainside in between where my driveway goes from the top to and it does this big 180 and comes out, I have this big piece of land right there that's sort of steep. And it was blackberries and it was ivy and it was like maple trees and ferns and every other thing grown out of there.

1:39:58BubblemanAnd I just went in and I was like, I'm going to get rid of all this shit and I'm just going to plant like wildflowers on the side of this entire hill. So that's kind of what I'm in the process of doing right now.

1:40:12SpeakerIt makes it like you see all these because, you know, like you're saying, the whole province has been turned into a Like a big logging farm really is what it is, right? And they just cut down massive swaths. Even people are buying these properties, they come in and they log them and then they try to sell the property. So often you're buying a property that you're going to develop or you're going to put a residence on or a place on, like a summer cabin or whatever.

1:40:37SpeakerIt's already been, the land's already been shaped by these guys that are coming in and ripping all the stuff of value out.

1:40:42BubblemanWell, I mean, I guess I realized but didn't realize. But when I was on the island recently, my buddy who's got a bunch of properties there, we went on to one of his properties. And it was like, I think a five acre farm. Or maybe it was 20 and five acres was blueberry. That sounds right. I think it was a 20 acre farm and five acres was blueberry.

1:41:02BubblemanBut he had like, he had cut like, I want to say less than an acre and got half a million dollars for that wood. And he needed to cut it. It was like it needed to be a farm. It needed to be able to have a place for chicken coops and all this other stuff. They couldn't put it in the forest. But I was just like, man, no wonder people are buying properties and just like, just like clear cutting the property, selling the logs and then bouncing.

1:41:31BubblemanIt's like, it's amazing how many thermometers there are out in the world that you can fire to show, look over here, there's a shitty human. It's like, ugh, a bummer. I haven't cut a single tree on my property. I'm just trimming them, but I've never cut a tree. All my neighbors are constantly asking the people across the way, next door, hey, can you cut those trees so I can have a better view?

1:42:00BubblemanAnd we've just let our view grow over the years. And now our view is mostly trees with little bits of ocean. But we know the ocean's there. So we're like, well, it's right there. I guess I could cut like 15 trees down on my property and then ask my neighbor to cut 20 down and I'll have a better view. But that just seems like if that's your trip, then move somewhere else.

1:42:26BubblemanYou know, don't live in the forest. Jesus Christ. It's like, would you like me to drain the ocean out front so you can have a deeper view? You can see the bottom 700 feet down.

1:42:37Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineIt's always been wild to me to have so much scrutiny as a farmer on what you're doing on your land, what kind of taxes, what fertilizers, whatever it is, all kinds of licenses, all kinds of shit, you know, to be a farmer. And then to worry about how much water you're using, all this stuff. Yet with logging, if you have private property, it's basically just an open space.

1:43:05Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou can't touch it. If it's private property and someone's logging in and they don't have to log, they only have to leave like 20 feet or something of trees between the road and the clear cuts. So we have a clear cut near our house.

1:43:20SpeakerAnd it happened near our house still.

1:43:21Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWell, in between two communities. So it's like it's like whatever. But and anyway, the point is, like, we've lost electricity like eight times since that clear count happened because all the trees are gone. And then there's just a couple of trees on the side of the road and they just fall over and they don't have to care about riparian zones as much. So it's like a silent flex for Thank you for joining us.

1:44:04SpeakerAnd if people feel like, you know, their logging is really regulated, you know, try being in any other industry in the entire world because logging and the forestry industry, there just aren't any regulations. And when you call and you try to find out who's accountable, you talk to one guy that's accountable for like, I don't even know, a 17 hour...

1:44:36SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

1:45:06Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThere's something reasonable in any practice and it's not you can't log and it's not the forest doesn't grow back because it does. It's just super out of balance.

1:45:16SpeakerAnd we've been really blessed that we moved both of the properties. The farms that we have are all they were cleared in the early 1900s by the original homesteaders that came here and they made big, huge swaths and ran their cattle on it which doesn't seem like that was a very good you know thing either but we have been blessed to not have to cut down like you too much we don't need to cut down any trees ever we just clear and keep it so it's breathing and uh but but i even but on that on a side note um

1:46:00Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThank you so much for joining us.

1:46:27Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineContinue this path of friendship, you know, and sharing and learning, you know, from Ryan on so many levels. It's not just breeding and molecular. There's a lot of life similarities that we're sharing. And it's been really special for us and elevating our experience, you know, just being around people like Ryan or anyone on the show or even in the audience. So we really appreciate that.

1:46:54SpeakerAnd I wanted to say something to that just really briefly. Anybody who's watching or even all of you who are on, I feel like I work with a lot of people and I'm doing, you know, a lot of meditation on, you know, the ethos and on humanity right now and realizing that there's an incredible sense of loneliness and Even if people are surrounded by hundreds of people and busyness all day long, there's this incredible sense in the human experience right now of loneliness.

1:47:32SpeakerAnd I really encourage people to go out and have conversations because it seems like these connections Thank you so much for joining us.

1:47:58SpeakerAnd I feel like I'm just seeing a lot of it. And I'm seeing a lot of people take their own lives recently because this is what we're left with in these letters. Or this is what seems to be this atrocity that's going on in the human existence. And I just think that our communication and the way that we are relating has to change. It isn't just about the weather.

1:48:24SpeakerIt isn't just because that's not going to serve us. We need to have deep, meaningful connections. We need to get back to creation with other community members, creation with other people who are smarter than you and people that are doing more incredible things so that you feel Also, you want to evolve. There's a reason to be here. It is more exciting than just the regular drum-la-drum of what you have going on in your own life.

1:48:53SpeakerSo I just wanted to pass on that message. And it's not just even a message of hope. It's a message of the continuum of life and of rebirth. And if we've been through sort of this composting of humanity, we're now at the seedling stage. And Things are going to grow and things are going to blossom. So whatever way we can help that blossoming through community relationships is just going to make the flowers smell that much sweeter.

1:49:24BubblemanWell, I'll tell you how you did it for me. You sent me that giant bag of flower seeds. So you absolutely helped me get the blooming going. And I'm going to plant those things. I just got to get more ivy out and get it down, maybe get some nice Fresh Earth laid down and I'll get those bad boys planted. You got like pumpkin seeds and like bean seeds and other things in there too.

1:49:46BubblemanSo that's pretty good.

1:49:48Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAlso giant pumpkin seeds this year, which were just... Uh, just, just drying out right now, but you need a pickaxe. What, like a Pulaski is what we call them or whatever with the pick on one side and the hoe on the other. It's like the old miner thing just to dig into that Ivy spot and pull the roots out.

1:50:10BubblemanI have it.

1:50:11Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou do.

1:50:12BubblemanI do.

1:50:12Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThat's the good stuff. That's the core, like gnarly work when you're like throwing a pick in the ground and yanking roots out. You're just like, oh yeah.

1:50:23BubblemanOh, yeah, I've been I've been yanking roots, man. Let me tell you, I've been yanking roots. Yesterday, I spent three hours just like trimming back all my rhododendrons. And I went and looked at my apple tree, which I was given, I guess, two years ago now or maybe last year that I planted. And I went over to look at my apple tree and I said, these apples look so weird.

1:50:46BubblemanAnd it's a pear tree. It's like it's got pears growing on it right now. So I was like, that's pretty cool.

1:50:54Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWell, and taking all that stuff down is the magic, magical fertility of, of, you know, a multiple succession canopy forest and environment. So any way you can turn that, and I know that you can't always, but any way that you can like recompose that, you know, it's, it's the future life. It's where all the future bacteria and fungi local get to re-thrive through that and then create the fertility.

1:51:20Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineDude.

1:51:23BubblemanOrganic Farming just said that's B-Man's reggae band, but I think it should be our reggae band. And the name is Yankin Roots.

1:51:38SpeakerIt's a good one. Top Yankin.

1:51:45BubblemanI love that you guys were just on the ferry and now you just drove off.

1:51:48Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYeah, we were right behind the Sikh motorcycle club. There was like 25 Sikh. That's what's up.

1:51:57BubblemanThey don't have helmets, right? No helmets.

1:52:01Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineOh yeah, it's hard to put a helmet on over the turban. You can't do it. Motorcycle versions.

1:52:06BubblemanThey're the whole, they're one of the main reasons you can get a permit to not have a helmet.

1:52:12Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI mean, I like that option.

1:52:14BubblemanI like the option. Well, you should probably be able to have the option that you want if you're an adult. Probably makes sense.

1:52:20Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineIf you have like a killer braid all around your head and then like a super like nice... Dude, and the swords?

1:52:27BubblemanDid they have like the swords or the...

1:52:30Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI should have looked better. That would have been smart to do.

1:52:33BubblemanBecause that would have been awesome. I've seen them on the highway before here on the Sea to Sky Highway ripping up. It's awesome.

1:52:42Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineI love that. We might lose you guys, so we just really love and appreciate you all.

1:52:47BubblemanWell, I'm going to do a giveaway in about nine minutes for, I think, for one of these. One of these bad boys. I got to say, I really like this spoon. It's a big ass spoon. And the Press Club is giving another one away. So shout out to those guys at the Press Club. There it is. You know, back in the day, I would just use any old spoon, but I'm telling you, if I opened your drawer and you had this spoon, I would have given you a high five for sure.

1:53:22BubblemanI've used every spoon, every bad spoon. You know, there's been some decent ones. There's been some good ones. But to have a nice sharp edge for scooping off the screen and a big, massive spoon, this is very cool, even for a commercial producer, but definitely for the home user. The home user. So, yeah, we'll give one of those away in about eight minutes. So remember all you have to do to enter.

1:53:49Bubblemanis type that's it just type type into the uh into the chat and you'll be entered i'll extend that to 15 no 10 minutes is good because we're going to do it in 10 minutes looks like there are well i guess i have to push done there we go we just started eight entries should i just do it after eight entries oh

1:54:15SpeakerIt's so funny before this. With all these little things. Cutting out, Lottie.

1:54:30Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineCan you hear me?

1:54:31BubblemanNow I can. Absolutely.

1:54:32Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineOkay. I was going to say, Ryan's an amazing guitar player.

1:54:38BubblemanYeah, dude. Listen, I knew Ryan when he had long curly hair and played guitar. So don't be telling me about Ryan's guitar playing.

1:54:46Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWell, I mean, with Mike, with Mark and Ryan and Colin on the keyboards and maybe me on the drums, we could, maybe we don't know, but Best Friend Farms plays the bass. We're not sure yet. You know, like there could be a Hash Church Top Yankin band coming to a town near you.

1:55:05BubblemanThen that means I have to sing.

1:55:08Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineYou know what I'm saying, Marcus? Like, you got the MC work on lock, you know, so I'm sure you can put out some melodies. You know, we're looking to you for that.

1:55:18SpeakerWe need the bass player. Who's the bass player?

1:55:22Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWe'll find one really soon, now that we're talking about it.

1:55:26SpeakerI'm putting the message out into the ether. The hashtag is to bring us a bass player.

1:55:32BubblemanYeah, Yankin Roots needs a bass player. Yeah.

1:55:37Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineWho's going to hold the roots at the top, Yankin?

1:55:41BubblemanWho's to know? Who's to know? That's awesome. All right. I got six minutes. There's 54 entries. I usually like to get at least close to 100 because there's almost 300 in the room right now. So I'd like to get a third of the group entered. Always do the halfway giveaway, little spoon action. It's a nice little box too. I like the picture of wet bubble hash. I don't think there's ever been a product that was sold that had a picture of exactly what bubble looks like when you pull it out of the bag.

1:56:22BubblemanI did like that.

1:56:23SpeakerI was like, that's a nice touch. Camden Frogman Fragment might be the bass player he uses. Oh, and Mojave. There you go. Mojave's in the chat. He plays, of course, he plays bass. He's an incredible guy.

1:56:35BubblemanWhy is Mojave not in here telling us about his bass?

1:56:38SpeakerI'm not sure. He sent me some music the other day of his, and it's really, really good. Mojave. I'm a musician, actually. Yeah. I'd play bass with him. He's that guy, for sure.

1:56:50BubblemanAwesome. Well, you guys go. You guys fucking have a band. Well, listen, if I can't sing, I'll definitely be the manager.

1:57:03BubblemanI just did the 20%. Well, I think I'll be more reasonable than that. Probably take 10 because I know the band is going to be very successful. And mostly I'll just be there for, you know, filling bowls, delivering dabs, and probably recording content. Sounds about right. Yanking roots in the bass spoons.

1:57:32Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineAnd Kelly and a couple other ladies can do the backup I3s singing.

1:57:38SpeakerThere you go. You need that shit. That is important. Very important. Kelly can front the band.

1:57:44Josh Dragonfly Earth MedicineThe Yankin Fruit Sisters on the backups.

1:57:49BubblemanOn the backups, man. Yes, man. 10.56. You got four minutes. There's 70 entries. Sometimes I think at 73 I should just choose a winner. But then I think, well, if we're bumping up enough, maybe we go to 90. From 90, what do you think the number is, Brian?

1:58:06SpeakerThe roughest, toughest, bomba-clad bad men from straight out of Canada, yanking roots.

1:58:12BubblemanJ5, foe 20. Foe 20. Look at his foe 20. PHO. Dude, the internet is too much. That's a great name. People come up with the best names. Organic farming is like, this is really snowballing fast. I think we have something here. What? All right, 76 entries. I think if we can get to 90, I'll click the button and we'll give this spoon away. Remember, what you got to do is, so please, and I will repeat my email again, you have to email me and then I'm going to tell you something to type into chat and that'll confirm with me that you are indeed the person in chat who won.

1:58:55BubblemanSo you have to email me after you win at bcbubbleman at icloud.com. I'll say it again before.

1:59:05BubblemanSpoon in your room. Yes, exactly. Get a spoon. You don't have a spoon? You're fucked. You need a spoon, man. Everyone needs a spoon. Best friend, you need a spoon, dude. I should have the press club just send you a spoon. I'm going to, actually. They're going to send you one for sure, dude. Oh, my God. You're going to get some beautiful, epic photo of, like, some pietella melting on it or some other scoop of heaven being pulled from the bags of

1:59:35Bryan Best Friend FarmsLet's do it.

1:59:36BubblemanYeah, I'm going to fucking send you one myself if they don't, but they're pretty awesome.

1:59:42Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat sounds sweet.

1:59:43BubblemanYeah, they really are pretty awesome. Good folks over there, you know, small family owned business and doing it up. It's good to support these smaller businesses. You know, it's a tough time since COVID economic disaster has struck a multitude of times to a lot of people and a lot of businesses have closed. A lot of restaurants. Holy smokes. We just had the Salmon House is closing this week.

2:00:11BubblemanOne of my favorite restaurants. It has been open for 49 years, I think. And they're closing. Well, pretty shitty. Anyway, we've got 92 entries. I think I'm going to hit the winner. And oh, wait, I know. Before I do that, the whole purpose of doing this is to be transparent so everyone can see and they don't have to trust me, for God's sakes. Wouldn't want that. All right.

2:00:36BubblemanWe're going to choose a winner with 94 entries for the Spoon, the Press Club Collection Spoon. Let's do this. Bam. Emid Otter, E-M-I-D-O-T-T-E-R, Emid Otter, you just won. So first I'm going to take a picture of that like I usually do, put plan, and then I'll close that. And then we'll see if Emid Otter, can you put my... Email in the chat again, if you don't mind, bingo.

2:01:11BubblemanAnd then Emid Otter, who just won, would you mind sending me a quick email and then I'll tell you what to type in the chat? Oh, there it is. Yes. What? Exactly. You won the spoon, my friend. You won the spoon. Their reply was, what? It's like, what? It's like who would have thought 25 years ago when we made some of that first bubble, Ryan, that one day we'd be on a podcast giving away custom spoons to people to make hash.

2:01:43SpeakerWhen you were showing the spoon, I was just thinking that how far we've now got like specialty products like that or those alcohol Q-tips that you gave me in Amsterdam. Right, like there's so many of these little things nowadays. I know. Yeah, it's pretty cool that people are just going and getting specialty products made. Just push the boundaries of this thing that we're doing, this cannabis thing that we're doing.

2:02:10SpeakerThat's pretty freaking cool. I think it's great.

2:02:14BubblemanI'm definitely a fan of it as well. I love I love the concept. I mean, recently I had this thing sent to me. It's like a it comes like this. It's a little lantern. And basically it's a Puffco attachment. And instead of Coleman, it says Bowman. It's actually just in the other room. I'm going to go get it because it's so awesome.

2:02:38SpeakerWell, we need to do a long rep here. I've had this one sitting here for ages. Let's celebrate for the honor.

2:02:49SpeakerWell, boys, I am going to dip. I've got some cousins coming over. We're going to do some kayaking on the lake, do a little barbecuing, all in honor of my wife's 55th birthday. So have a wonderful weekend, folks. Thanks, Marcus. See you later, bro. Thanks, Dr. Mark. All right. Happy birthday, Carol. We'll talk to you guys later. Yep. Happy campus week. Bye-bye.

2:03:17BubblemanYeah, there it is. There's the little bowlman that I got, and it's a double bubbler, too. It bubbles out of the little flame on top. I'm like, dude, that is like a pretty choice little unit. So, yeah, I actually got it from these guys at Hemper. It's perfect for camping, isn't it? Dude, it's, and they sent me another one, a couple of them actually, and that were just bongs.

2:03:39BubblemanAnd I gave them to my uncle when I was in Manitoba recently, and he fucking loves these things. He's torching, I gave him a bunch of bubble hash too. So he's just ripping like five, six huge rips of bubble at a time through these like big bongs. I'm like, dude's like 70, dude. He's just like smashing like Dave style, actually. It was reminiscent of Dave when he was puffing because I was like, I got to admit, I'm not around that many older dudes that puff like that.

2:04:12BubblemanFuck, I'm not even around that many younger dudes that puff like that. No, Dave was a machine. He was a machine, dude. He was a machine. He was always looking for someone that could just at least keep up. Even like... Thank you for joining us today.

2:04:49SpeakerAnd so I had nothing and I was limited to whatever the videos that I accidentally got downloaded to my phone. And one of them was the memorial at Riggers. Right. So I listened to all the talks again. Everybody's everybody's memorial speech. And yeah, people were talking about it. I think it was Valerie Corral was talking about how on your first time when you actually met David, he he kind of put you through the silent challenge where he just He, you know, serve you up dab after dab until, you know, to see if you were going to, as he put, as she put it, if you were going to like fall asleep in the corner or if you were going to be any fun.

2:05:28SpeakerI think maybe that was Annie Reacon said that. But it, it really was the way David was. Like he would just give you hit after hit after hit, you know.

2:05:43BubblemanYou're muted. I just said insane. He did it to me, man. Like he put me, I can't even imagine that he does that to everyone, what he did to me, because he definitely like laid me out with like, I want to say realiztically 30 to 40 rips out of the bong in his living room. And he must have taken way more, like 50 to 60 or something.

2:06:07BubblemanAnd I just remember leaving there more high than I've ever been in my life to this day. And just being like, wow, that's what Rob was talking about when he said I left Dave's the other night so fucking high. And I'd be like, well, how high could you be? Like, I felt like I know what high is, but I was like, oof, no, I was to be educated on that evening.

2:06:31BubblemanAs I had to go back home and make my way to the Krasnopolsky Hotel from Dave's place, which isn't just a short walk.

2:06:40SpeakerBut you walk. Yeah. That's like at least an hour. I mean, it's half an hour.

2:06:45BubblemanIt was a little under an hour, but I walk fast.

2:06:50SpeakerYeah, I mean, it's half an hour roughly to the catsuit from David's place. Yeah, yeah. Funny, I have all those times down now because I've been doing all those walks.

2:07:02BubblemanExactly. This was 20 years ago, too, so I was younger and even more nimble than I am now. You must have been too late to take the tram.

2:07:16SpeakerYeah.

2:07:17BubblemanI just, no, I was so high, I didn't want to do anything other than walk on my feet. Once I relearned how to do that, because when I left his apartment, it wasn't really working properly.

2:07:29SpeakerYeah.

2:07:32BubblemanWell, I really want Emid to send me an email immediately if you can, because until you do, I can't confirm who you are or your address or link you up with the Press Co. So if you can send me an email, do it right away, and then I'll reply to you. I'll tell you what to type in the chat. And then once you do, I'll forward your email over to Jeffrey at the Press Club and he'll get out your spoon.

2:08:03BubblemanPretty cool. Went a little spoon action. Hash rules everything around me. Classic. Wu-Tang Clan. Right? Little hash rules everything around me. I guess Prob was probably the first one there who did that. Emit Odor is legit. Yes, Hawaii is sustainable. Emit is, but Emit is legit, but he needs to send me... Well, he was just in, and he was listening, and so hopefully he's... Well, exactly. He's been around a long...

2:08:37BubblemanHe's in our chat all the time. He's old school. We'll get his email eventually. Then I won't be so... I usually am like OCD, and I don't want to stop finding this person until... Until they give me, until I can connect them because I hate the idea of someone winning something and then just not sending it to them. And then of course they're like, oh, I didn't even think about it till six months later when they hit me up and say, hey, you never sent me my spoon.

2:09:03BubblemanOh, I did it on IG. Okay, well then that's fine. That's not what we spoke about, but that's okay. It's acceptable. There he is. You say.

2:09:21BubblemanAll right, here we go. If he can just post this real quick, I'll get his email and send it off to Sir Jeffrey. What are you puffing over there, Brian?

2:09:37SpeakerWhatever's in the dragonfly jar here. There's a couple of them. I've been hitting you with one.

2:09:43BubblemanOh, shit. Brian's looks really nice.

2:09:46Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, this is a new one of mine I call Smooth Criminal. Oh, shit. It's a citrus smoothie, male, by my gas mask. Mama.

2:09:56BubblemanIs that a Michael Jackson song?

2:10:00Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah.

2:10:02BubblemanSmooth Criminal.

2:10:04Bryan Best Friend FarmsSmooth Criminal.

2:10:05BubblemanDude, the color on that is ridiculous.

2:10:08Bryan Best Friend FarmsIt's insane. This is a first wash 90 that I went to Roslyn with instead of Piatella. It kind of darks up on the tannins through the Piatella. It's amazing, and it smells... This one is like what we're calling like honey puke. So it's like sweet honey up front. Hard to explain. Like honey berry catches you and draws you in really, really pleasant. And then it just goes to gack, like, like puke on the end.

2:10:36Bryan Best Friend FarmsA little bit raunchy, pukey. It's hard. Yeah, it's a lead in and then oceans. Oh, wow. That's so deep and yucky in a good way.

2:10:44BubblemanYou know, durian, it's durian fruit.

2:10:47Bryan Best Friend FarmsA little more pleasant than that one. I like that stuff a lot actually, but.

2:10:52BubblemanYeah, yeah, me too.

2:10:53Bryan Best Friend FarmsI had the freshest one. Yeah, I had some flown in from Thailand the first time I went to Amsterdam and it was like a total different game for endurance. Yeah, than what you get over here.

2:11:03BubblemanWell, shout out to Emid Otter. He just said what I asked him to say, which was thank you to the Press Club. I know who he is. I'm connected to him. I'll link him up. With the Press Club so he can get his prize. I need a spoon. Well, Game Organics, you can go to thepressclub.co and buy one of those spoons if you need one. They got you covered.

2:11:29BubblemanIn the meantime, thank you, Press Club, for doing these giveaways and sort of kicking down to our audience. I think they really appreciate it. It's nice vibes. Thanks to Puffco as well. We gave a Puffco away. Thanks to Camden, who actually donated that Puffco. It's nice to do giveaways and Thomas was always amazing with that. I think we gave away some lights here before. We definitely did a lot of them on his channel.

2:11:55BubblemanI'll see if he wants to do a little giveaway again in the near future. I have a friend who's growing right now. The two Borgs that I had, I don't know if I have photos of this, but this is kind of crazy. Apparently there's some really good videos as well. I haven't seen them, but I went to my friend's grow the other day. And yeah, this was it here.

2:12:16BubblemanI guess this is probably the closest photo we'll get. And this was about a week or two ago now. But the borgs, if you look like into the photo, the borgs, like the plants are literally twice the height. Like, these are just two different, like, you can see the lights right here. These borgs are insane. And then the other plants all the way down the room are literally at half the height and lushfulness.

2:12:45BubblemanSo apparently Thomas has taken me to some grow here in the near future where this guy's pulling almost five pounds per one of these fucking LED lights with under canopy, with under canopy. That under canopy can be substantial if you know what you're doing. I mean, obviously it makes sense. We know that the intensity of the light is up top and the canopy doesn't always get pierced and you see a lot of growers just trim things super high up.

2:13:12BubblemanIt is amazing to see big, lush buds lower down in the canopy. I think I have some pictures that Thomas sent me of that as well. The buds were like... They were substantial. They were definitely like much more substantial than I have ever seen that low on the canopy. But I'll see if I have those pictures. It's hard to memorize.

2:13:38SpeakerOh, you want to present, Ryan? Wow. Maybe share something. I want a presentation.

2:13:43BubblemanWell, that's sharing.

2:13:45SpeakerIt's just a paper. I just posted it in the chat. Someone sent it to me.

2:13:52SpeakerDo I have permission now? Yeah, I can. Yeah, I gave you permission. Sorry. Just looking for this photo, but I don't think I'm going to find it.

2:14:03BubblemanI've also potentially forgotten what photo I was looking for now that I'm looking through all my photos.

2:14:11BubblemanThat's awesome.

2:14:15SpeakerOn point.

2:14:19SpeakerYeah, that's not even holding on.

2:14:33BubblemanIs this a paper you wrote you're going to share? Well, I guess in the meantime, I could share pictures of, I really like this picture of hash that I pressed a few weeks ago on Vancouver Island. It just looks so nice.

2:14:51BubblemanWrapped it up all nice. And yeah, it was just like, look at that.

2:14:56Bryan Best Friend FarmsOh, it's perfect.

2:14:58BubblemanDude.

2:14:59Bryan Best Friend FarmsNice round edges too. Those came out perfect.

2:15:02BubblemanYeah, dude, it was hard.

2:15:05Bryan Best Friend FarmsLike, it was... What do you have there? What kind?

2:15:09BubblemanThat's Gorilla Glue. 100 grams.

2:15:12SpeakerLove it.

2:15:14BubblemanYeah, see, it was like this. I was just molding it with my hand to get it into the plate. It was the easiest job ever. And that's kind of what it looked like when I initially got it. I had to, like, snap it off of this, like, piece that was... Like this right here, they had just sealed it in a bag as powder and it's self-pressed into basically a puck of hash.

2:15:45BubblemanThat's cool. But yeah, good fun. I love hash. I love playing with it and pressing it and making pieces. And then, oh yeah, this one was really greasy. It's nice to see nice hash, you know? Ooh. I was impressed with the greasiness on this one.

2:16:05Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat looks nice.

2:16:08BubblemanJust like wet.

2:16:09SpeakerWhat's that? Are you seeing this paper or not?

2:16:20SpeakerI missed that, Ryan.

2:16:20BubblemanI don't know if you're seeing this paper or not. Oh, here. No, I'm sharing right now. Let me stop sharing. Now I can see it. There you go. Long days during the last two weeks before harvest applied to short-day medicinal cannabis. There we go.

2:16:39SpeakerYeah, so we just did a study at Holland, apparently. I haven't actually really done the study too deeply, but they're applying, you know, longer veg periods, essentially, beyond flour and bumping up yield. Okay. Yield. I don't know. But I would imagine that someone felt a little dependent. That's an interesting thing for growers. I mean, shit, if you can get plants, you know, back to a longer period than 12 hours of flowering.

2:17:14SpeakerThen maybe you can bump your yield, so it's worth checking out, or at least reading the paper. Yeah, absolutely.

2:17:23BubblemanAbsolutely. Maybe it's a paper Dr. Allen and I will discuss. Maybe you want to come on Cannabis Journal Club with us and discuss some of these papers.

2:17:31SpeakerYeah, well, I mean... You need to have a whole botany section, right? I mean, there's so many papers coming out these days. You could literally do a paper every, at least one every year. You'd have to do more than one a week to be current. And there's also like catching up to all the old stuff, right? So it's just, yeah, there's a ton.

2:17:50BubblemanWell, let's do that. I know Dr. Allen, we've kind of tried to find papers in regards to, you know, the body medical papers. But we're just having a harder time. Like Sam would have been our source, right? He could have just given us like a thousand papers, but we don't really, we need a source to get papers passed on.

2:18:12SpeakerI have David's bibliography. I know. So, and then, and I keep on top of the new stuff anyway, right? Like that one just came out. So, there's so many studies being published in cannabis lately that, like it's ridiculous like well what has been published in the last 30 years is just an insane body of work like i don't know if there's any other plants that are as as studied at least in that period as cannabis and we're still figuring stuff out so it's uh sure interesting time to be interested in the science of cannabis it's also grown so much that like all these areas you can focus in Right, like there's like a genomics professor now in Canada, like that's best, that the program is cannabis genomics.

2:19:08BubblemanI think there's going to be one for cannabis aromas very quickly. Did you see the show last week? No, I haven't had a chance.

2:19:16SpeakerOh, dude, I wish you could have been there, man. It was a good one. Yeah, I was somewhere over in Northern Ontario. That's right. That's right. That's right.

2:19:27BubblemanBecause I was in Lactobani. I did it from my friend Nathan's house. Thank you, Nathan, by the way. Shout out to letting me use your house. While my son was in a fishing tournament, I did Hash Church. Cool. That's cool that your son was in a fishing tournament. Oh, it was awesome, man. It was so cool. They had a good time.

2:19:55BubblemanLet's see if I can find like a shot of them out on the boat. My uncle's boat is hilarious. He's got it wrapped like he had his 70s van wrapped.

2:20:07Bryan Best Friend FarmsWhat kind of fish? Bass tournament or trout?

2:20:10BubblemanIt was walleye. It's a walleye tournament. Yeah, we're fishing for walleye. And it was like the four biggest ones. The prize was serious. Like it was a professional tournament. My uncle, he likes to bring young anglers in and kind of expose new people to fishing. Whereas the majority of the people that entered are like both professionals. There's only two people allowed per boat and they're professionals. And, you know, there's like 6,500 bucks on the line for this tournament that these guys ended up winning.

2:20:43BubblemanBut geez, I knew I had pictures of that boat. And oh, there it is. There it is. So here we go. This is a shot of my uncle and my son on his boat. And you can see it says the Geocraft. She's a keeper. And then over to the right, it says 28 and over, trophy walleye, 17 and under, jailbait. And so this is my uncle's 1970s humor.

2:21:13BubblemanThat's good. Of being out on his boat.

2:21:17Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat's a crispy piece on there though.

2:21:21BubblemanOh, it's super crispy. It's super crispy. You kind of can't, I didn't put the best picture up. Oh, this one's a little better because it has the, it has the actual picture of, I don't want to go, that's weird. Oh, I see. I cut it off in that one too. Well, welcome Etienne Fontaine with the giant Dubois in his moi.

2:21:51BubblemanHola.

2:21:53Etienne FontanHola. Hope everybody's doing good. We're doing pretty good, man. We're doing pretty good. Got a pretty cool gift this week.

2:22:05BubblemanOh, awesome. You know, someone just sent me, it's a different patch, I think. Or maybe that is the one. Is that from Jason? Oh, I don't know. I don't know that one then. There's another guy who just made patches. That's beautiful, dude. Show that again. Oh, I love that, dude. That's beautiful. I love that shit like that exists in the world. How fucking cool is that? Sam forever leaving his mark.

2:22:36BubblemanHe won't stop. He's just going to keep going. We're going to be like, oh my God, remember when we thought when Sam died, he was gone? Holy shit. Tricks on us. Oh no, he's not gone. He's definitely not gone, dude. He blew your suitcase off the roof of your car the other day, dude.

2:22:53SpeakerI wonder where it was, Sam. It's funny because my patch is in that bag. Your patch?

2:23:04BubblemanCan I say something about your bags? And this is very inexpensive. Put AirTags in them. It really does get you your bag or your thing back. I have my AirTags on everything. I just AirTagged. My Neo Spectra, this little unit that I've been having a blast with. I'm not going to lie. When you showed your hash, Brian, I wanted to just jam it into the Neo Spectra.

2:23:28BubblemanAnd I knew right away what it says when it's great hash is it says outlier warning. Outlier warning. I'm like, oh, oh, we got an outlier warning. I love me some outlier warnings. That's the good stuff.

2:24:06BubblemanCan't wait till you get back here, Ryan, and we'll play with this thing. It is a blast. I want you to see the macro micronutrient tests and how quick it can be done.

2:24:15SpeakerI already know I need one. It's if it's just if it's as good as it is for the cannabinoids, which I've spoken to a bunch of people that it's very accurate and confirm them for the cannabinoids. At least it's very accurate.

2:24:29BubblemanWell, Dom, you know, Dom. Yeah, so that guy alone is like, dude, he was like saying it was better than his lab at his EU GMP lab.

2:24:39SpeakerYeah, well, the lab that he uses is the one that does all of the Dutch grows. Okay. Central lab, which is kind of an interesting way to do it. I guess there's only so few grows that they can do it that way. But it does centralize, standardize the data, which is a cool thing about having it done that way for a system.

2:25:01SpeakerAnd yeah, he's like, they're growing a bunch of different genotypes.

2:25:10Bryan Best Friend FarmsRyan, are you? That was weird, right? With the lighting thing, back to it a little bit. Something I do here now for... Oh, geez, closer to like, you know, 15 years over 10. I caught on out west to less hours for the vegetative for indoor. And I don't know if you guys have talked about that here. Before probably, but I caught on with KMUD Radio out of Garberville when I was out there and basically some experienced growers, you know, old school growers were on there and talking about how to swing your light schedule down on the vegetative from the typical 18 to the 16.

2:25:54Bryan Best Friend FarmsSo it just kind of made sense. It seemed a little risky, but back then myself, I was running on generator, you know, with some solar assistance. So it was like whatever you could shave down just to try it out to pay for less resource to fuel it, you know, the run. So I tried it and it stuck with me where I just saw healthier plants, you know, still to this day, any strains I run, any of my breeding, any of the seeds, clones, anything.

2:26:19Bryan Best Friend FarmsSo just was throwing that out for like a little light thing there. Change.

2:26:25SpeakerYeah, there's something called DLI. Something's wrong with your mic, Ryan.

2:26:33BubblemanYou're coming through muffled. I don't know why.

2:26:35SpeakerIs that any better or no? Yeah, it is a little bit better. Yeah, a little better. DLI, Daily Light Integrate, right? It's like essentially how many photons a plant takes on over the day. Right. And I think it's probably culturally dependent, like it varies within different populations, but I think there's an ideal amount of light that you can give them, right?

2:27:06Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, they can only take so much. It just goes to seems to stress them out is what I saw.

2:27:11SpeakerAbsolutely. If you see plants, often if you see plants that have like nutrient deficiencies, you dial the light back and you don't show it right away.

2:27:21Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah. It made sense. I mean, there are only, it's like if you're matching solstice, at least around here where I'm in the main, you know, this zone, even to California, you're kind of looking at right around that 16 hours of peak light around here anyway. So kind of matching what we see for the max speed of light in nature a little bit, you know, at the peak of the year for solstice.

2:27:43Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah. In this mid band of where we live.

2:27:46SpeakerWhen I was running tarps in BC a few years ago, I would take the, I would always leave the tarps off the last two weeks anyway, just because I'm trying to.

2:27:55BubblemanOh yeah, so I hate to interrupt, but yeah, your mic is doing it again. I can barely, it feels like, it sounds like you're underwater, someone said.

2:28:03Etienne FontanGo to your Zoom settings and see if your sensitivity is low.

2:28:09BubblemanHe was coming through perfect like five minutes ago.

2:28:12SpeakerI think it's the internet. Josh and Kelly said maybe to go around this, so.

2:28:17Etienne FontanOkay, okay.

2:28:18Bryan Best Friend FarmsMaybe I'll log out and try it one more day.

2:28:20Etienne FontanYeah, there you go.

2:28:21Bryan Best Friend FarmsI'm here too. Yeah. Country, country internet. Internet.

2:28:25BubblemanCountry road.

2:28:27Etienne FontanOh, by the way, happy Canada Day. Or do you celebrate as Canada Week there? Or how do you folks celebrate it up there?

2:28:37BubblemanWell, I guess we celebrate it by kind of getting together. It's a weird kind of day where it's like the one day Canadians are patriotic. You see a lot of flags and like Canadian shirts and stuff. And for the most part, it's just a good vibe. And, you know, locally here, we usually have a little event and maybe there's a little beer garden and there's kids swimming in the ocean.

2:28:58BubblemanUnfortunately, this year, Thank you so much for joining us.

2:29:20BubblemanJust in front of Lions Bay, we ended up actually going over. There's another beach in Lions Bay called the Kelvin Grove Dog Beach. That's where you kind of have to go if you have a dog because this other beach, not a lot of dogs. And so it's kind of cool in our little village that we have these two little beaches and a marina as well. So it works out pretty good.

2:29:42BubblemanWelcome back, Colin.

2:29:45Collin PalmerWhat's up, guys?

2:29:46BubblemanColin in Colorado.

2:29:47Collin PalmerLooks hot there. It's I'm back. I'm down in Denver now. I was up at the Great Divide. And yeah, it's like 100 degrees here. It's brutal.

2:29:59BubblemanJesus.

2:30:00Collin PalmerYeah, but beautiful. Rocky Mountain National Forest, man. Amazing. Beautiful place. So super grateful. I saw a rainbow yesterday. It was pretty epic.

2:30:14BubblemanIs that where the double rainbow guys saw the double rainbow?

2:30:18Collin PalmerPossibly. Possibly, because there was some crazy rainstorms yesterday specifically that came through. And it was intermittent, so you could see it over these miles and miles away. This huge rainbow just kind of cranked over the mountaintop. It was awesome.

2:30:33BubblemanDo you remember the double rainbow, guys? Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. It's beautiful. He's just baring his soul. It's like he just came off some super intense psychedelic experience and his soul was super open and vulnerable and he ends up seeing this double rainbow. Oh my God.

2:30:56Collin PalmerThat's sick. Yeah. I visited some pretty neat little dispensaries on the way. Some pretty, some good local herb. It's cool, man. It's good to see.

2:31:07BubblemanBubble Man brand is in the Colorado market now.

2:31:10Collin PalmerOh, no way. That's sick. I didn't, I should try to get some.

2:31:14BubblemanThey hit me up the other day and they said, we're in stores, man. We're in stores.

2:31:18Collin PalmerI was like, fucking A, man. That's what's up.

2:31:21BubblemanIt's a lot of work, man. Holy shit.

2:31:24Collin PalmerIt's needed though out here. There's not a lot of brands that are left. I mean, I walked in, it was like this, like O2 and The Clear and, you know, stuff that, you know, just whatever lasted. It's just only a few brands now. So good that you guys are able to be on the shelf because it's needed. I keep asking, like, who's the best, you know, who's got the best living soil?

2:31:49Collin PalmerWho's got the best, you know, hash, et cetera. And they just keep telling me, like, we need better hash. We need better flour. So it seems like you guys are set up to... To do well. That's awesome.

2:32:03BubblemanWell, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, we're going to make nice product. That's for sure. The partners know what they're doing. And so far it's like hash hits and brick hash and maybe some rosin and some bubble.

2:32:15Collin PalmerSick. Yeah. I mean, the 710 gave me a care package when I got here and they always just have phenomenal flower. Their flower is just always great. It's a big, big shout out.

2:32:25BubblemanDon't they do great extracts too?

2:32:27Collin PalmerOh, yeah, they 100%. They just, you know, they just check the box. I think Brad and Skelly and their whole team do a great job. So big shout out to them as well. But yeah, dude, I can't wait to I'm gonna go try to find your stuff. I'm gonna do it today.

2:32:41BubblemanYeah, I'll text my partners and find out where you would have to go.

2:32:47Collin PalmerFor sure.

2:32:49BubblemanFresh out. We're certainly not in every store yet.

2:32:52Collin PalmerYeah, for sure. But yeah, it's cool. It's beautiful here. I mean, Getting up to the mountains, man, you live at the mountains, you know? So it's like you're every day.

2:33:02BubblemanI'm here. I live on a mountain, in fact. I'm going to put my boat in the water later and see how that goes.

2:33:09Collin PalmerIt's a great day for it out here, at least. I mean, I was on the water yesterday. I was on some lakes yesterday and it was cool. It's beautiful.

2:33:20Collin PalmerSo what's good, guys? What's going on with you, Brian? How's the full term season looking for you, bro?

2:33:28BubblemanJust as he steps away from his camera.

2:33:31Collin PalmerAh, shit, I didn't see it. I'm on my phone.

2:33:33BubblemanNo, and I haven't said his speaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:33:37Collin PalmerWell, when he comes back, we'll talk to him.

2:33:40BubblemanEtienne's just coughing up a lung. Smoked that whole joint in like three puffs.

2:33:49Collin PalmerYou know, I don't typically smoke flour, but I smoked some flour this week. It was quite good. I'm surprised. Ooh, look at that. What is that?

2:33:57BubblemanWhat is that? That's my old man. It's my bowl man.

2:34:02Collin PalmerIs that a Coleman? That's a Coleman. It fits on his... Oh, I need one of those in my life. That is hilarious. Dude, I needed that camping. Jeez, that was dope. That is amazing.

2:34:13Etienne FontanWho makes that? Where do I find that?

2:34:17Collin PalmerYeah.

2:34:18BubblemanYou can find that with Hemper.

2:34:24BubblemanSo yeah, Hemper is who sent me this. Shout out to those guys. And I believe on Instagram, I don't want to get it wrong. So I'm going to go and just do the quick search. But I'm pretty sure it's just Hemper. Oh, maybe it's Hemper Co. Yeah, I think it's Hemper Co. Let's see. Yeah, I think this is them. Let's see. Yeah, this is definitely them. So they are on Instagram.

2:34:55BubblemanHemperco. H-E-M-P-E-R-C-O. Hemperco. We got 695,000 followers. Holy shit. Good for them. Yeah, they sent me this one. They sent me a couple of smaller ones that were bongs. Well, one that's big and one that's small. I gave them both to my uncle who lives in the cabin and smokes hash like a fiend. And he was just absolutely loving them. In fact, I owe it to Hempber because they were kind enough to send these out to me.

2:35:29BubblemanI owe it to them to try and find the pictures that I took. While I was there, probably going to have to go into deleted photos because I took a couple of nice photos of those hamper bongs at my uncle's cabin, kind of like balancing on his... Oh yeah, here we go. We're going in the right direction. We're going in the right direction. So, okay, here we go.

2:35:55BubblemanYeah, here's the two of them. Oh no, that's not the two of them. That's his with mine. So I'll recover that. I thought I also took pictures of just... The two of them, but really cool pipes. And he absolutely loved the bong aspect. He did find that the lighter, this is how, what a fiend my uncle is. He found that the lighter, he was like, I don't know.

2:36:17BubblemanI just, it doesn't get the hash burning. Cause I gave him nice melt, melty hash that, that, you know, I get, With Melty Hash, you got to be a bit patient. He was expecting to just torch it and have it all turn into smoke. And when that didn't happen, he was kind of like, oh, what's going on with this thing? Is it broken? And anyway, he, oh, here's, no, that's the other one.

2:36:43BubblemanSo he was using a blowtorch to blaze this fucking Coleman, which made it even funnier because it was a Coleman bong that he was lighting with a propane torch. But yeah, I got so many pictures. I don't know where those came in to be. Probably after these ones on the island. Yeah, here we go. So these are the two bongs. That Hemper Co. gave me as well, which were really nice.

2:37:11BubblemanLike I have to say, I was actually impressed with the caliber of these pipes. They just cool little recycler style. And I mean, who doesn't need a Coleman? And everyone always says the same thing. They're like, oh, is that a Coleman? And then you hold it closer and they go, Bowman. It's like, yeah, it's like a little punchline that you get when you read it. So shout out to these guys for doing something cool.

2:37:41BubblemanYou know, I'm sometimes harsh on these bong companies that are mass producing, you know, what might be construed as Chinese produced bongs. But I will say that this top is is unique and cool. And I thought, you know what, I will take that and give them to my uncle and make his day. I get a lot of these companies offering me products all the time. And I say no to 99% of them.

2:38:05BubblemanBut the lantern peak attachment caught my attention. I was like, and I see it also caught your guys's attention. So get in touch with the hemper boys, tell them bubble man sent you and get yourself a Coleman Bowman attachment for your puff cow. Yeah, that's what's up. That is what's up. Man, I asked some really cool questions to Grok today on thiols and thiolates and Just all the different properties of old, like it spit out pages and pages and pages of incredible caliber data.

2:38:45BubblemanWe are so lucky. Our kids are so lucky. And I get it that it's a double-edged sword and they're also not lucky, but they're so lucky to have information, be able to pass through their little fingers at the speed that it's going to be passing through. It's absolutely insane. Like really quite something. And who knows, you know, maybe some kids will pull, go the cyborg route and get the neural link put in their brain.

2:39:12BubblemanI used to be terrified of that thing and think it was like the craziest, evilest thing you could do. But now it's got all these quadriplegic people moving mouses with their minds and it's changed their lives. Now I think he's let, I think he's getting deaf people to hear that haven't heard or maybe blind people to see. Like it's a crazy thing. Thank you for joining us today.

2:39:51BubblemanWhen you've been shut off from it, from all of your, you know, like ALS style where your body just shuts down, you don't have the ability to operate your hands, you know, like, yes, there are some devices that can work with your eyes, but that would get sore, you'd get headaches, like to be able to do it from your mind is pretty bonkers. I did not, didn't see that one coming when I was like 13 years old, living in the 80s.

2:40:21Collin PalmerYeah, now living in 2025, almost 26, we're at the cusp of, you know, these tools that have, you know, AI has been around for over 25 years, but it's now the right tools to be able to access them have been created, right? And I think the same thing for creativity. You know, I live one hand in the creative world, one hand in the cannabis world, and I hear sometimes a lot from the creative friends that I have that, They're not scared of AI.

2:40:49Collin PalmerIn fact, they're just yearning for better tools so they can use it. Right. They're not they're not saying, oh, my God, don't bring this thing. They're saying, well, cool, let's figure out how to actually make intentional tools to use to actually use it. Now, we've done that with ChatGPT where we can give prompts and that's a really neat way to get a result. But in terms of creativity, it's very still still really hard.

2:41:11Collin PalmerYou know, like Adobe just unveiled their version of it. And it's going to keep kind of developing and, you know, just roles are changing. They're not, they're not going away. They're, they're, they're evolving, you know? And I think that's the, the thing that I've kind of looked at it, you know, it's a beautiful tool if, if used in the right context, you know, it really is. So.

2:41:33BubblemanWell, you're not wrong. It's been around for a very long time since the forties. In fact, I think Turing did his thing in the fifties.

2:41:40Collin PalmerYeah. Um, Yeah, like when I had an opportunity, when we had that opportunity with PAX Labs, it was like immediate, like, yes, let's try it. Let's just, let's see what we can do with this thing. Good, bad, or ugly. And let's see what happens. And it was neat, you know, three years later, we talked about it on the show. And probably three years from now, we'll have another iteration that's even better and has more data and more better understanding of it.

2:42:07Collin PalmerAnd Just keeps evolving and all the ways, you know, like you just said, Marcus, you know, it's an incredible tool to be able to just put these things in and then get answers back that, you know, what else are you going to ask?

2:42:22BubblemanAnd just like any tool, some people will be better with it than others. And that's why your friends aren't worried because they're like, we already know how to train and practice and learn the use of these tools. And we're open minded enough and creative enough that when the new thing comes, because I constantly get into this sort of thing with Johnny B, who's spending a lot of time studying AI, takes courses, he's studying, he's getting these certifications.

2:42:47BubblemanAnd I'm kind of like, dude, Like, I don't think anything you're learning today will exist tomorrow.

2:42:54SpeakerIt's fair.

2:42:55BubblemanI think AI is in this pocket right now where in the next three to five years where it's like, if you spent the next two years training for AI, do you think any of it would be relevant three years from now?

2:43:08Collin PalmerNo, I think it wouldn't have this same relevancy, you know, but I think you would have at least the knowledge of like what the tool can do. I mean, maybe.

2:43:17BubblemanIt's so multidimensional that it could just be like, fuck, it's like disappearing from here and reappearing from here. How is training here going to help you? Thank you so much for joining us.

2:43:45BubblemanWhat if someone just writes another AI that's like, no, no, you don't have to do prompts. All you have to do is get this thing to sit in your pocket and it'll listen to you for like half the day or a week or a month. And then anytime you ask it a super simple question, all of that will be worked into the algorithm. And now the prompts themselves are basically available to you.

2:44:06BubblemanAll the prompts, it's just the thought of it is mind numbing.

2:44:09Collin PalmerYeah, well, one thing that comes to mind is Mid Journey. Like, Mid Journey is, if those that don't know, should definitely check out Mid Journey. It's probably, from a visual standpoint, the most advanced that you're going to get. And now they just unveiled a motion version, like where there's narrative, where you could make scenes and animations and things that are in motion. I think it's a great example of that, of how that tool changes over time, you know, is really unpredictable.

2:44:37Collin PalmerAnd how are you going to use that Who knows, man? You know? So I think that's just the thing that I agree with you. But I also would say in the same breath, you should at least figure out how to use the tool a little bit. And from there, if it changes, at least you have some sort of understanding of it. You know? That's the only thing I would say.

2:45:03Collin PalmerBut, but yeah, no, I understand what you mean.

2:45:05BubblemanLike, I just think the big breakthroughs won't follow a path. The big breakthroughs will be like, wow, they'll just appear in a way that no one could have possibly. Well, and I've already seen it. And I've, I play around with it. I enjoy it. I talk to Brock and chat GPT all the time. I create logos and thumbnails. And, you know, I did a nice one for the aromatic volatile compound show.

2:45:30BubblemanI did that little thumbnail with the stained glass window and all the beakers of, of terpenes and whatnot. But, uh, Yeah, who knows where it's going? I find it interesting. It's definitely a tool. It doesn't help me in the garden, that's for sure. But, you know, maybe one day it will. Maybe one day it will. Exactly.

2:45:49Collin PalmerI mean, there's a Bud Scout. I was pulled into a project with this guy, Scott Wilson, who's a really great designer out of Chicago. He was designing this thing for a company that was on a track system that had camera technology that scanned the canopy as it went across every 35 seconds. And the idea of it, just the idea, was that it would learn the plant's growth schedule, what you were feeding it, when you were feeding it, if you're target feeding, if you're doing that kind of thing.

2:46:21Collin PalmerAnd it would also be able to detect Bugs and things that are happening on a very minute scale and then report them back to you in forms of data. So it's a really interesting thing that I was like super into when I got pulled into it. But I don't see, I don't know how many people have adapted this into their practice. But it seems as things grow and as scale grows, you know, getting eyes, you know, I think about getting eyes on things.

2:46:50Collin PalmerYou know, we talk a lot about personality of like going in and touching and feeling the plant. This is more of an extension of that in a way, which I thought was pretty cool.

2:47:01Collin PalmerBut that's the only one that I know of. Maybe there's others out there, but Bud Scout. It's pretty interesting.

2:47:09BubblemanAre you just raw-dogging this chat right now, Colin, with no earbuds? Totally. We got kids ripping them behind me. I'm just trying to get them out.

2:47:17Collin PalmerAwesome, dude. I'm trying, man. That's so good. They're trying to have fun back here, but I'm just, you know.

2:47:23BubblemanNo, I noticed you had no AirPods on. I was like, oh, damn, is he just listening to the audio coming from his phone right now?

2:47:29Collin PalmerI am. I'm sorry, guys, if it's too loud in your background.

2:47:32BubblemanNo, it's actually, it's not loud at all. You sound as perfect as anyone else in the room.

2:47:36Collin PalmerIt looks nice there.

2:47:37BubblemanYeah, and it looks nice.

2:47:39Collin PalmerYeah, no, I just, I'm walking in the backyard here in Denver, and... I just, the two kids came out. I was like, well, I'll go over in the corner where I can get away from them. That's hilarious.

2:47:50BubblemanWhat's going on, dad?

2:47:52Collin PalmerYeah.

2:47:52BubblemanWhat are you doing over there? Standing under the tree.

2:47:56Collin PalmerWhat are you doing, uncle? We got the extended family. Yeah, we're talking hash kids.

2:48:02Etienne FontanSo Colin, how do you, you know, you're a person who runs incognito in the world and that have you, you're as deep in, you know, the cannabis world as anybody. So when somebody comes up to you and asks you, so what do you do for a living? You know, when you're dealing with kids, parents and things like that, the vanilla people, right? How do you handle that?

2:48:27Collin PalmerHow do I handle that? So there's two ways that I handle it. I usually say that I'm in agriculture like immediately like that's the first thing I say because that's the most honest thing right like that's really what we do like we're literally in agriculture and um we have I have a company that's in agriculture and then if they want to ask more questions we start to get into what type of agriculture and then we get if you really want to know then we get into the Thank you so much for joining us today.

2:49:16Collin PalmerEssentially.

2:49:17BubblemanAnd so you kind of tell them we grow the best weed that gets you the most high.

2:49:22Collin PalmerYeah. Without saying it that way.

2:49:25BubblemanWithout saying it that way.

2:49:26Collin PalmerYeah. Just tell them, you know, we we you know, we we we are agriculture at the at the core and we love to dress it up and pretend that it's all this other stuff and You know, we put labels and stickers on stuff to try to sell it. But at the end of the day, I think we just grow plants and we, you know, we, we harvest them, you know, and I think there's really no, there's no difference between an apple in my, my opinion.

2:49:59Collin PalmerHold on a second. We got kids coming over here. She's like, did you say apple?

2:50:06BubblemanI want an apple. I love apples. That is so cool, her high little voice.

2:50:15Etienne FontanYou as well, Marcus. I mean, you're a parent, right? And you have to navigate those.

2:50:21Collin PalmerJust take care of it just like that.

2:50:24Etienne FontanThose waters of vanilla, right? So, you know, because it could be very intimidating saying, oh, I'm in cannabis. I do this for a living. You know what I'm saying?

2:50:32BubblemanBecause my wife didn't used to want me to really do that. She was more like, just keep it on the down low. Now, as it's so legal in Canada and it's legal, like not just medical, it went beyond that. It's recreationally legal here federally. So it's really like, you know, it's kind of like the although it's not very different. In that sense, it's very different when you're unplugging prohibition and you're unplugging like that whole mentality, well, it's illegal.

2:51:00BubblemanThat just gets like completely unplugged and it's like, well, it's legal. It's like, oh yeah, that's legal. So now all of a sudden people who might've had a problem with it, not, not, Thank you so much for watching.

2:51:34BubblemanIt's not always the conversation, but when it's business conversation in regards to what I do, I'm certainly don't hold back in any way, shape or form. And I'll talk about hash church and I'll talk about, you know, the brand and I'll talk about consulting and the hash making and the bags. And for me, It's kind of hard not for me to talk about like, you know, all of these things because they're the basis of my foundation of being in it, like my activism in hemp and getting hemp growing and being a part of that history in Canada, doing the BC Compassion Club and getting to play a part.

2:52:10BubblemanAnd that history was also very humbling and an honor. And then being able to get arrested and be one of the first Compassion, be the first Compassion Club case, court case in Canada, get off, get my money be given back, you know, get no fine, no time. And start bubble bags because of it was just like, it felt like fate. Felt like this is like your fate.

2:52:37BubblemanYou have to travel down this pathway because this is what you're doing. And what a wonderful, beautiful honor that I got to teach, you know, inadvertently and advertently so many amazing people around the world about how to like use water and ice. Really, it's not rocket science. It's very quite simple yet. For me, the way I taught people and the way I naturally did it was with a flair of passion because I was obsessed with it.

2:53:05BubblemanSo that brings me into like, you know, like a chef would say, I recognize that. I have that in the kitchen. What you got going on there? I have that over here. So I've had that conversation with... Thank you for joining us.

2:53:38BubblemanAnd lighting the way I looked at it was I was like a little flame. And what I wanted to do was I wanted to start a big fire. But it's like the majority of people are like trees. You can't just light a tree on fire. Or a log for that matter. But like, then there's like the bubble ambassadors, which they were the kindling, right? These people that were like smaller pieces of fresh dried wood that were just ready to ignite with like a sentence of like, oh, if it don't bubble, it ain't worth the trouble.

2:54:12BubblemanIt's like, you got me.

2:54:13Etienne FontanI'm in for life. I'm a lifer.

2:54:16BubblemanIt's like people really did that shit, dude. Like people got into this shit 25 years ago and literally... I'm one of them, dude. I'm one of them.

2:54:24Collin PalmerAnd just went down that shit forever. Fucking moment I pulled the first bag, I was like, holy shit. I know, the eyebrow raise.

2:54:33BubblemanI called it the eyebrow raise.

2:54:34Collin PalmerIt was like, yo, I'm never doing anything else but this. Are you kidding me?

2:54:38BubblemanNo, I couldn't believe it. I used to be amazed when people were like, oh, that's a lot of work. I was like, I didn't see the work. I see the work now. I guess you guys could sit around.

2:54:47Collin PalmerI'll just make this over here, whatever.

2:54:48BubblemanI see the work now, but I didn't back then when my passion was so fucking fueled and burning, just like a oil fire.

2:54:59BubblemanI couldn't see the labor. I was just so stoked. I make bubble for 14 hours a day and just be stoked about it. I go and my buddy's got all this weight and I'm just like, I'll just say, you know, I'll just stay here for the next 10 days and work for 10 to 14 hours a day making water hash. And that was without freeze dryers. And coolers and chillers and all the other things that make life easier.

2:55:22BubblemanBut yeah, I just loved it. I still do. I still quite do. But it's different now. And it's amazing. There's so many different ways. I just sold my Sambo filtration unit. I had one that Charles put at my facility, a V1 in order for me to demo it and sell it. And so I've been demoing it for quite a few different people recently, especially. And recently, just super recently, a group bought it And, you know, I told them, hey, I've got a buddy who can come up and do consulting for you.

2:55:53BubblemanI can help a little bit. I didn't run it enough that I would feel comfortable charging and consulting. But I was like, if you had water hash and you were setting that up, I would be your man. And he's like, oh, well, funny enough. We just bought all this Whistler Technologies equipment and he had like Lab Concos and Whistler 300 and like every, like the RO unit and the, he had everything and was like, I have no idea how to set this up.

2:56:17BubblemanSo I ended up not only selling the sifter. So getting my friend a consulting job, but also getting myself another little consulting job for the water extraction. So it does seem like things are picking up a little bit out there in the world of equipment. I see people pulling the trigger more so on equipment. And I would say if you are looking at equipment for water hash, reach out to me.

2:56:39BubblemanI definitely have a good knowledge base on lab build outs for solventless extraction. Thank you so much for joining us.

2:57:10BubblemanThat's always the inclination when you go in with a good, a proper consultant should save you five to 10 times what you paid them in my opinion.

2:57:20Collin PalmerYeah, for sure. I think that's accurate. Definitely. And it's again, like if you don't set it up right the first time, it takes more time to set it up right the second time.

2:57:31BubblemanOh my God, dude, I hate it. It's like, here's the worst thing everyone does. They don't put a drain in. Their drain is like this. It's like you can have a two inch drain, but have an eight foot trough that leads into the two inch drain that holds like, you know, eight gallons of water or whatever it is, if it's like, you know, six to eight inches deep.

2:57:49BubblemanAnd So yeah, you're right. It does take a lot more time. It's much easier to do right the first time you do it. That is for sure. And I've built enough of them at this point in time to know that. Well, when people ask me, Colin, well, how much are you going to cost? I always say, how much do you want me to save you? Like, do you want to save 50 grand?

2:58:09BubblemanDo you want to save 100 grand? Like you tell me.

2:58:11Collin PalmerWell, yeah, I had someone say, well, we're paying you a lot of money. And I said, well, you can always hire somebody else. But you're not going to get the same service. Yeah. You're not going to get the same results. And that's on you if you decide to do that.

2:58:26BubblemanNot me. I always say you can hire the guy I taught how to do it. Or you can hire me.

2:58:33Collin PalmerRight. 100%. That's how I do that all the time. And it's the truth. I mean, it's the same thing in the creative world. Oh, you did that really fast. Well, you're not paying for me to do it fast. You're paying for me to do it. And do it well, right? So time. Look at that fat glob. Yeah. So Brian, you were away. I was asking you how full term was going.

2:58:57Collin PalmerAnd love to hear an update on how things are going up there at the farm, bro.

2:59:01Bryan Best Friend FarmsHey, hey, nice to see you.

2:59:04Collin PalmerSorry, bro.

2:59:05Bryan Best Friend FarmsYeah, things are going great. I've been totally just tucked in. Thanks for asking. And just like putting all my time, almost all of it right into the farm this year. And it's exhausting, but very rewarding. So like right in line with the conversation earlier too, just digging in. I really worked on the soil this year ahead of time. So I went back in and like a month ahead of time, charged up the microbes, charged up the protein, you know, residual for them, got thicker on really good dank old neighbors, organic certified mulch, you know, hay mulch, like bought on purpose for that mulch per, you know, both my big houses and, Yeah, like naked changes to improve health of soil.

2:59:53Bryan Best Friend FarmsJosh was mentioning earlier, like maintaining the farm, you know, once it's built. So I've been putting a ton of time just like circles doing the landscaping solo mish here, like keeping, yeah, three to four days a week kind of thing with that and balancing between the business, really digging into a lot of new flowers and vegetables. Love to show you Around up here, you and the family can go on even too.

3:00:20Bryan Best Friend FarmsIt's actually nice for kiddos to come. I got a second run of brook trout stocked in the pond out back. I was just fishing with my daughter the other day and she's like, I want to do more of this.

3:00:30Collin PalmerI was like, let's go.

3:00:32Bryan Best Friend FarmsWell, come on up here. We try to, I'm trying to go like fly fishing only and I'm rusty. Oh, great.

3:00:37Collin PalmerI don't know anything about fly fishing, but you can teach me.

3:00:40Bryan Best Friend FarmsVery little. I'm just, I've actually like trying to get back into it a little myself there. But yeah, things are good and working on, you know, the plant health, soil health, plants knock wood, but look better than they pretty much ever have. And Went in on time and great new breeding types are out there and stuff. Really juicy. Been kind of taking a little time off of social media actually lately and just like dedicated to the farm space, you know?

3:01:08Collin PalmerYeah, that's awesome, man.

3:01:09Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat's good to hear. How are you doing?

3:01:12Collin PalmerOh, man, super busy. We're about to... We just launched a vape line with...

3:01:21Collin PalmerSolventless, we extracted some terpenes and did a blend. We did cultivar specifics under a brand called Radio that we just launched. And then we're about to launch our solventless and kind of turn on the lab fully for the first time. We've never done that. We just kind of have been worrying about flour and Just trying to build off of that because the market is just not they don't really like I know they want rosin but like I don't want to make a bunch of stuff that's going to sit there you know so I've been trying to help build the market and build our name and you know what we do in the market and it's you know it's been great I mean We're outpacing some of these big MSOs, man.

3:02:05Collin PalmerI mean, it feels good, but we've got a mountain to climb. It's New York. But yeah, we're just about to turn the lab fully on. And when I get back, we'll be ripping that thing fully. So yeah, it'll be exciting. Then I can start ideating on what do we do next? How much material can we get on a consistent basis? And then we can start talking about other Things that I want to do with friends such as Marcus and others.

3:02:35Collin PalmerSo it's slow, but it's good. We're doing it at our pace because it's totally self-funded. It's just us. So it's been cool. It's been a lot of work, man. But I like it. I love it. I wouldn't change it. It's a lot of pain, but a lot of reward at the same time, you know?

3:02:55Bryan Best Friend FarmsYou know, good luck and you're like one of the best at what you do and everything around. So, you know, honestly, for success and anyone who gets to, you know, be in line with what you guys do is actually going to feel that passion, feel the love for it. It's like a sponge. So it comes out and it's not coming from other places. It's coming, you know, from the heart that you have for this, you know.

3:03:21Collin PalmerThanks, man. Yeah, no, I, I like Marcus, like, just like Marcus, man. I, I live for this. Like, this is like, I, it just, I'm so.

3:03:32Bryan Best Friend FarmsThis is my life. The other side of this red wall is my grill room.

3:03:36Collin PalmerYeah, exactly, man.

3:03:39Bryan Best Friend FarmsIt's just, I don't know what else I'd be doing. But it's, you know, it's just one of those things, but it's, uh, yeah, it's cool.

3:03:49Collin PalmerIt's, it's been fun. It's been a journey for sure and keep going, you know. But yeah, I hope to get our... More square footage going for greenhouses into next year and then that'll unlock a lot. Because it's, I mean, to be honest, New York just doesn't have quality. Like, I feel like I'm an outlier. And then I have to like fight, I have to fight to like be like, no, like this has 3.57% turps, guys.

3:04:17Collin PalmerLike, have you seen that before on the market?

3:04:22Bryan Best Friend FarmsI did a medical event up here and someone that was really into the Piatella, into the gas, they had a name that was around gas, you know, some gardens. And anyway, they were really into it. I said, well, what's going on? They had a med card from New York in 2021. And they just said, oh, we'd come up here, you know, to Maine to love these events with micro small batch people.

3:04:45Bryan Best Friend FarmsAnd they know the ones that they're after for small. But I'm very aware, you know, I think know the difference that that's that is one of the differences not to knock macro or micro either way is that that's just the difference in the marketplace. Right. You know.

3:04:59Collin PalmerYeah, well, it's also a choice. I feel like people, big or small, you have the choice to do batching and you have the choice to do certain things. I mean, I think Marcus and I have both seen the biggest of the biggest grows and we've seen greatness in the biggest and the smallest, you know, and we've also seen the opposite, right? Yeah, and you know, and I would even say I've seen small grows that just don't look great.

3:05:22Collin PalmerYou know, I mean, let's be real, you know, so it's, it's, you know, there's a, there's levels to the game in every aspect of it. But, um, yeah, I think it's just time. I keep, everyone always asks me like, well, what do you think is going to happen? I'm like, well, people, are they going to get better at agriculture? They're going to quit. And that's just the, where, where it goes, you know, like either you get better at what you're doing and improve or, And you keep going and, you know, things don't happen overnight.

3:05:48Collin PalmerI always say this to everyone in our industry. Everyone thinks it's supposed to happen so fast and so methodical. And it's just, that's not the way it works. I mean, you do make incremental, you know, headway, but it may not be in the form of like this like overnight success. You know, you have to keep pushing it to the point. And I encourage other hash makers and young hash makers and young growers out there.

3:06:14Collin PalmerYou have to keep going. You know, I think Marcus and I are great examples. And Marcus is a great example. Even he's done far more than I have. And I feel like you keep going and you keep pushing ahead because you have faith in yourself and you believe in yourself. And I encourage others to take that stance because it's very difficult. This is very difficult in and out of the industry, if you're even in the industry.

3:06:41Bryan Best Friend FarmsIt's hard to even grow a plant, man.

3:06:43Collin PalmerYou know, so I encourage those out there to take the risks and don't beat yourself up too hard because, you know, success comes over time, you know, and that's that's something you have to work towards. You don't just get it. And there's going to be inefficiencies. Shit's going to happen.

3:06:59BubblemanHey, organic farming is on fire right now. He just wrote this. Sorry to cut in. But Colin, your breeder alter ego, your band name for Yankin Roots is Paul and Calmer.

3:07:15SpeakerPaul and Calmer.

3:07:16Collin PalmerYo, Paul and Calmer. Yo, so it's funny. So my music name. That's so good, dude. My friends call me my close, close, not my close, close. Most people that know me from the musical background, they call me Calmer because that's just what they call me. So that is hilariously on point that you said that.

3:07:41Collin PalmerThat's fucking awesome, man.

3:07:43BubblemanI didn't say it. It was Organic Farming who said it, who also named our band the Yankin Roots. So he said that and then he goes, Colin is also in Yankin Roots. Like he's doing a documentary in the chat or something.

3:07:59Collin PalmerHell yeah. No, that's awesome. But yeah, I don't know. My moral of that is just like, you got to keep going. There is no, you only fail if you give up.

3:08:10Bryan Best Friend FarmsColin, do you think there's like some of the, obviously all over the place, but New York has some of the dankest dank that I've ever had in my own, my life over on these goes. So it's not to say that at all. I think there might be a chance that some of the people are either taken care of or maybe not hiding, but in the shadows and it's,

3:08:28Collin PalmerMaybe I don't think that I don't think a lot of the guys that got micro licenses are fully operational. And that's that's also the truth. And then those that are doing like what I have, which is a twelve thousand five hundred. They're not stage. They're like, you know, they're going to, you know, managing twelve thousand five hundred square feet of canopy is that's a different ballgame than than anything you've ever seen if you've ever done that before.

3:08:51Collin PalmerSo. wearing those shoes as a as an example i think you have to grow into them and it's something that takes time um i can't say that when i first ripped off 14 000 square feet everything went perfect i'll tell you right now it did not and you know you learn and then you get good and you figure it out you know and that's it you know there's there's You know, I remember when I was like in 2018, my partners at the time were like, who do we hire to run a half an acre indoor?

3:09:23Collin PalmerAnd I was like, well, let's ask a question to ourselves. How many half acre indoor facilities do exist in the United States right now? And they're like, uh, I don't know. I was like, I bet I could count them on my hand. And to find someone who has done that before, I don't think you could count them on your hand. So, I think you need to have perspective.

3:09:46Collin PalmerAnd we all forget that the largest grows in Northern California were around 100 pounds. Right, ATN? I mean, the elders would get pissed. They'd freak out at you if you went too big. I mean, they'd be like, dude, you're blowing it up. We're going to all lose it all. Yeah, you're going to expose us, right?

3:10:02Etienne FontanYeah, yeah, yeah. You'd have locals that would be like, yo, calm the fuck back, kid. We're going to get us all busted.

3:10:07Bryan Best Friend Farms100%. I mean, I know I had that season when I spent out there. It was...

3:10:12Collin PalmerWe were just all the East Coast kids.

3:10:15Bryan Best Friend FarmsSome of them still go there, but like you said, probably not appreciated in the neighborhood so much.

3:10:21Collin PalmerYeah. Well, you know, you got to play nice to be able to survive. You know, I think that's one of the things that I've learned over the my elders taught me is it's cool to be under the radar, dude, because that's how you that's how your longevity is. Sure. You know, so, you know, I think that's the other part of it is like growing large scale is difficult.

3:10:41Collin PalmerAnd it's something you have to kind of work into and learn. And over time, you never really stop learning. I mean, it's just even today, you know, I learn every day. So I think it's important for people to recognize that our industry came up out of the depths of nowhere and started doing square footage that no one in their entire lives has ever done.

3:11:00Bryan Best Friend FarmsDo they have smaller square footage like micro?

3:11:03Collin PalmerYeah. Yep. It's thirty five hundred square feet for micro. Some of those are getting online, but It's just not a whole lot of herb, you know? I mean, it's just not. It's gone immediately if it's good. It's tough because it either sits there, right? And if you have such small square footage, such a thing is too small. You know, from, you know, just a dollars and cents thing.

3:11:29Collin PalmerSo that's that's the other. That's what I'll say about New York is I think New York has amazing potential. There's so much talent in the state. I know there is. There's incredible hash makers there. There's an incredible scene that that, you know, needs to be fostered and unveil itself. But it's just time. You know, I think I think it really is. It's it's it's taken a lot longer than any other market I've ever seen to kind of even get its footing.

3:11:56Collin PalmerI would say the retail side of things is underwhelming for most people because of the production side.

3:12:04Collin PalmerBut I'll tell you, we have fantastic flour. I do not smoke much flour, but this smokes so well.

3:12:14SpeakerIt's just beautiful.

3:12:15Collin PalmerIt tastes great.

3:12:19Collin PalmerSo yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Time. I think every market out there right now is going through transitions. But there's still great producers, amazing talent. And I'm kind of happy the reset's happening a little bit. I think we can pull some of these people that were like, I'm out, back in once it kind of resets itself. And there's a lot of brilliant minds that put so much time and energy into our space.

3:12:48Collin PalmerAnd I don't like to hear that they've moved on. Even from the science side, there's people that are like, I just don't, I can't get funding to do my research.

3:13:00BubblemanAnd I'm over here opening the door saying goodbye to them all. Goodbye. No, I'm just joking. A lot of people have disappeared, man. There's no doubt about it. I will say that I'm very happy to see the parasites leave and the people who never belonged in the first place. But the people you're talking about, the people that did belong and that put so much time and energy, they absolutely, you know, the ones that left, I do hope to see them make a reemergence.

3:13:27BubblemanAnd it happens. I mean, I remember when Mr. Soul, the breeder guy, disappeared forever and then just popped up like 15 years later or something. It was like, I want to Hey, remember me? And we were like, fuck yeah, we remember you, dude. Holy shit. Welcome back.

3:13:41Collin PalmerYeah. I remember asking you about him like years ago and you're like, yeah, dude, he went to do wine or something. Like, I can't remember. Like, you said something like that to me.

3:13:51BubblemanWell, that might have been Steve. I don't know if that's what he did. Breeders Steve definitely went and did wine. He got the... Yeah, that's who I'm thinking of, Breeders Steve. He got the Rollingdale... Yeah, yeah, because Mr. Soul was C99, Cinderella 99. Right, right. But you're thinking Soul, S-O-L, Spice of Life.

3:14:10Collin PalmerYes, that's what I was thinking of. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking of Spice of Life. But yeah, Mr. Soul, C99. I grew, actually... Dude, I think I grew like 30,000 seeds of his stuff. And I saw a lot of cool stuff in his varietals, like C99 throwing like candy gas stuff that I'd never thought could exist in those lines. It was really cool.

3:14:39BubblemanI still have the original seeds from him that I traded bubble bags for in like 2000.

3:14:45Bryan Best Friend FarmsThat's awesome. Brothers Grim Seeds.

3:14:48BubblemanBrothers Grim, yeah. I got them from Seoul.

3:14:51Bryan Best Friend FarmsThey're like East Coast Canadian company, I believe.

3:14:55Collin PalmerHe's from Boston originally. That's where he found C99, I guess. That's what he told me. And then I think he just kind of went underground, you know? I mean, he was all over the forums. I remember him being a big contributor. Yeah. Back in the day, I mean, always writing great stuff, like good knowledge. You know, I remember him on the BCGA forums, like the British Columbia's Growers Association Forum, that one that was like the gray page where, you know, all the old heads used to be OT1.

3:15:27Collin PalmerAnd I mean, I don't know who else. Who was the other gentleman? He got the...

3:15:33SpeakerSly was his partner.

3:15:35Collin PalmerSly was there. Sly was his partner. Who was the guy who was the Canadian breeder that, his name is slipping my mind right now.

3:15:44BubblemanWell, the only other guy is Rick, Mr. Soul.

3:15:48Collin PalmerNo, I'm talking just from the BCGA. I think he gave Mr. Soul the seeds that he found.

3:15:53BubblemanOh, from the Brothers Grimm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Duke Diamond, no?

3:15:57Collin PalmerNo, Duke Diamonds came much later.

3:15:59BubblemanOh, no, yeah, he did. That's right, that's right.

3:16:01Collin PalmerWho was the Canadian guy that passed away?

3:16:04BubblemanThere's been so many, dude.

3:16:07Collin PalmerI just can't remember his name. I'd have to go on the forum and see the handle again.

3:16:12BubblemanI'd be like, it's that guy.

3:16:14Collin PalmerBut anyway, he was, there's a whole crew of guys that were just like next level in my eyes at that time.

3:16:21BubblemanWell, he definitely had a partnership with Heaven's Stairway, the guy that ran, isn't that the same guy that ran Overgrow?

3:16:31Collin PalmerIt is, yeah. Shebang.

3:16:34BubblemanNo, no, Shabang just put it together. There was another guy that owned it.

3:16:40SpeakerI thought Shabang took over.

3:16:41BubblemanAnyway. Yeah. In the early days, there was another guy. He got busted up here. He got caught with like gold bars and like all sorts of crazy shit. And they took the overgrowth servers. The RCMP took the servers because of Heaven's Stairway, the seed sales.

3:16:56Collin PalmerI remember that because that was like, that was when I got a message from Bog. He's like, I'm not be able to send you seeds for months. And I was like, what is happening? He's like, delete your profile. It's like, I can't even access it. We used to send our addresses, man, through the VM. Jesus Christ.

3:17:14SpeakerOh my God.

3:17:15Collin PalmerYeah, smart days. Smart days, indeed.

3:17:19BubblemanYeah, just hit me up. I'll be fine. It'll be fine. Send them. I used to have like two PO boxes. Well, yeah, PO boxes are one thing. That's fine. But like people sending their actual addresses, that's...

3:17:32Collin PalmerYeah, no, you can't do that. Probably not advised. But yeah, there was a big, there was a roost over there, man. It was like everybody was getting roasted because the RMCP took those servers, eh?

3:17:44BubblemanThe RCMP, yep, they did.

3:17:46Collin PalmerYeah, and then that was kind of the end. Like, I think, I feel like we lost a lot of history in that moment. Like the doc, you know, the, the actual like words that we all remember being spoken are no longer hard copied and able to be referenced anymore. And that's, it's interesting, man. Yeah. It's crazy.

3:18:11BubblemanYeah. He moved to Belgium in like 2002. So it wasn't, it was very soon after Overgrow went down that Mr. Soul just bounced. And then he didn't revive that seed company till 2015. And I think really it was probably Subcool who really helped build Mr. Soul's and Brothers Grimm's popularity because how popular could they have really been over the course of just two to three years of existence?

3:18:42Collin PalmerYeah, I mean, Sub was, I mean, let's give him his flowers where it's due. I mean, he's the one that, I mean, who else was really breeding for flavor at the time?

3:18:54BubblemanAll I know is everything he made was fire and people would try to talk shit about him. And I'd be like, dude, that guy has fire everything. Every CD he's ever sent me was fire. I like them. I'm sorry you don't, but I'm going to fuck with them.

3:19:07Etienne FontanI think DJ Short's probably the other only one, I think, Colin, that I can remember. Not as much variety, though. No, no, no, no, not as much variety, but he was specifically going for flavor, whereas Subcool was going for A palette of flavors, right? He really was a pioneer in that resolve.

3:19:27BubblemanHe understood the plant differently because he was he was very early on one of the first people I showed water hash to and he took to it like a pig on shit. Like he was all about the hand washing. He wouldn't do the machine wash for many, many, many years. He was really like promoted the spoon. You know, shout out to the press club. He supported the spoon mixed method, which, you know, was the original way I had showed him.

3:19:55BubblemanAnd he had gotten the one gallon bags like almost the day we made them. And he was running little bits of batches of his varieties. And he would basically come up with, you know, different flavor profiles that way, have an understanding of what each plant was doing right down to, The isolated and extracted and properly cured resin and his shit always melted into a liquid. So he had that tool very early on in his breeding quiver of making hash and testing the hash, which a lot of breeders like 99% were absolutely not doing.

3:20:36BubblemanAnd he understood that super early on. And it's crazy because I showed all of them. I was trying to show every one of them. That was the audience, but not a lot of them took. Sub took to it and I think it was a massive advantage to him because A, he already had that olfactory and that understanding of what Like, you know, his ability to perceive notes and aromas was highly tuned, let's just say.

3:21:04BubblemanAnd then he also had a network on how to access different flavor profiles. And then, of course, he was able to produce whether he was a spectacular, you know, whether Ryan would say Subcool followed proper breeding practices or maybe didn't. Subcool's genetics were always fire. We're always super, super tasty. Like that Quavo was such a producer of hash, like a great washer and super high quality producer.

3:21:35BubblemanI always give props to Sub.

3:21:37Collin PalmerYeah. I mean, dude, when he passed away, I'm not going to lie. I went to every single seed bank and bought as many of his packs of seeds as I could. I'm not kidding. I have like probably 300 packs of his. Seriously, because of exactly what you said. It's unmistakably amazing the things you can find within his lines. Oh, yeah. He's got good stuff. If you can find his pack somewhere, go buy him up.

3:22:02BubblemanDude, he sent me his whole collection like multiple times. He just sent me. I get a pack from Sub. It's this huge box. I'm like thinking he sent me a bong or something. I'm like, what is this? He's like, open it up. Fucking crack this box open.

3:22:16Collin PalmerWhen he got out of jail in Canada, I gave him back Jack's cleaner. Nice. Yeah.

3:22:23BubblemanYeah, that was my buddy. My buddy Ro took care of his place while he was in jail in Canada as well and maintained his whole scene.

3:22:30Collin PalmerDude, he had balls of steel. Let's just call it out. Dude went and did large scale, large scale up in the Kootenays or somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome.

3:22:41BubblemanYeah.

3:22:42Collin PalmerIt was awesome.

3:22:44Bryan Best Friend FarmsVortex was so nice.

3:22:48BubblemanAnything that had Apollo 13 and Space Queen were amazing. Vortex was both of them.

3:22:53Collin PalmerVortex was one of my favorite varietals to grow on the East Coast outside because it would never have anything, no Botrytis, no, you know, any spot mold or anything. No, no. No powdery mildew, nothing. And it would just be the most tasty stuff ever. And it was outside. It was like incredible, man. I remember growing that stuff in the

3:23:18BubblemanWell, think about it. The Space Queen, that was Mr. Soil, C99, but he crossed it with the Romulan to make the Space Queen. That's why his stuff was so heady. Dude, the Space Queen was so fucking spectacular. And then he crossed Space Queen with Apollo 13. Oh, right on. Which became the Vortex, exactly.

3:23:44SpeakerYeah.

3:23:45BubblemanSo those are old school bomb varieties. That C99 was so fruity and that Romulan was so piney to cross them both, make the space queen. Super fruity notes, super potent, not a weak cultivar by any means. Definitely cool to see those lineages, you know, follow down.

3:24:07Collin PalmerJilly Bean as well. Big shout out to Jill and that outcross, that crop, that Jilly Bean is... Next level in terms of taste stuff is, yeah, that's great.

3:24:21Collin PalmerI was going to say like the, what the jelly bean opened up a whole new palette for him that they never really had before. Um, just like that super deep candy that they, that just didn't have any gas. It's just candy.

3:24:34BubblemanIt's what he was always looking for things he didn't have. That's why he would find them. I was just going to say Space Queen was obviously used in a lot of different breedings, but you can find it in Agent Orange, Chernobyl, and Corkle.

3:24:54Collin PalmerChernobyl created the... Gosh, there was a cut that was created from the Chernobyl that was just next level. I can't remember what we used to call it. Oh, man. It was like a heavy sativa.

3:25:11BubblemanIt's too bad there wasn't more like fingerprinting and really identifying. I liked what Mojave said on the Aroma Show the other day in regards to, you know, where Phyllis kind of dropped the ball was not drawing the line in the sand and kind of saying, look, we're going to take what we're going to take from the people we believe have the closest representation to the oldest school genetic of that type rather than just accept it from the whole world.

3:25:37BubblemanDraw the line, pick the people who we know the stories and the lineages and use those ones as the basis. And it's just too bad we don't have that from the last 40 or 50 years.

3:25:52Collin PalmerYeah, it's interesting. You know, when I met Phyllis, I gave him 30 samples and I was getting kind of housed by my partners being like them kind of questioning me like, oh, are these real? Are you sure these are real? You know, I had like a proud dad Stuart moment when they came back and every single clone that I said I had what it was came back as what it was, right?

3:26:13Collin PalmerMeaning Sour was Sour, Chemdog was Chemdog, et cetera, et cetera. But I think you're right when you submit samples, maybe they don't know where they came from, you know? And then they submit it as something and it actually doesn't end up being that. I think that's where it becomes convoluted and confusing for the next phase of that, which is how do you talk about it into the open world and invite other people in to look at it and see the data when the data is wrong.

3:26:47Collin PalmerYou know, it doesn't, it just doesn't make any sense to me. And I feel like that's where Canopedia picked up is like, they don't, they don't make, They're not there to make seeds. They're there to make tools for you as a breeder and as a, you know, if you're a cannabis enthusiast to better understand the world in which you occupy. And I think that's a, you know, a better, I wish Phylos had taken that stance rather than the stance that they've taken today.

3:27:15Collin PalmerAlthough I don't dislike Phylos, I'll say that openly. I think that they've done a, they've tried to do good. They've tried, but they've definitely had some missteps. So.

3:27:32BubblemanShit, man. Just froze. They did. They did have a few missteps, but like you said, maybe someone will come along and do it again better. I like the idea of aggregating the data. If the data all exists, maybe one day AI can aggregate it in a unique and cool way and create graphs and concepts and ideas from this data that currently we're really unable to fully understand.

3:28:00BubblemanBut yeah, I'm... I'm telling you, I was really excited about that aromatic volatile compound show, dude, and going deep into the flavors. And that's, to me, the direction I want to take in cannabis. Now that I have my brand establishing in states, I want to shift my attention to make sure that I'm working with people who that is their focus. The people I want to work with who are breeding cannabis, that needs to be their focus for me to really want to breed with them.

3:28:31BubblemanSo Breed with them, to work with them. I need, I need, I need, yeah, you like that, Etienne? For me to breed with them. I'm going to breed those motherfuckers.

3:28:43Etienne FontanWell, I kind of wanted to take it in another direction. I had a kind of a question an elder kind of reached out and asked. I wrote a long diatribe on it, but I thought it would be an interesting question to ask Because, you know, you've got your experience in Canada. I've had my experience here in America. And of course, Colin, you've worked on both sides of the fence here.

3:29:03Etienne FontanSo this is a universal kind of series of questions. So they come from Fred Gardner, who is a elder in our movement who started O'Shaughnessy's, the newspaper. So, I mean, he comes Highly regarded. He did his undergrad at Harvard. You know what I'm saying? He was also a military veteran back in the 60s. So he's 81. So he's an old cat. So this is a question he sent.

3:29:30Etienne FontanIt is widely acknowledged that the civil rights movement, by ending segregation, not everywhere, changed our society significantly. The medical marijuana movement, by ending prohibition, not everywhere, also changed our society significantly. But it has not been given a corresponding acknowledgement. Why?

3:29:59Collin PalmerGreat question. I mean... Go ahead, Marcus.

3:30:04BubblemanNo, no, I was just, is that you're asking us to answer that question?

3:30:06Etienne FontanYeah, I'm just kind of, I'm wondering your thoughts. You know, I set my thoughts and ideas as well as Best Friend Farms there, you know, as, you know, your input too here. You know, why do you think, you know, that's the case? Because, you know, I have my Ideas and thoughts, but I thought it was worth pondering as well as wondering your thoughts because of your perspective in Canada because it was a series of court cases that got combined into one that allowed you to finally arrive at your legalization through the courts where we don't, of course, have that here in America.

3:30:45Etienne FontanWe have a hodgepodge of 10th Amendment realities, each one different from the other, no two alike. So, whereas we know the civil rights movement was quite significant as well as it became a small regional than national than international issue. The same that cannabis has, but it doesn't appear in the same light. Why do you think that may be?

3:31:16BubblemanI would say that because we're still in the infancy of cannabis being legal and accepted, and even still it's not really legal and accepted, even in your own country, it's still federally illegal. So I think that, you know, the civil rights movement has had so many decades to sink in and soak up. I don't think it was so wildly, wildly respected, maybe six months to a year or five years after it was Thank you so much for joining us.

3:31:46BubblemanWe'll see you next time.

3:32:01BubblemanI grew up, you know, pardon the pun, but it was very black and white slavery. It was black and white. There was white slave owners and black slaves. And then as I got older, I learned about all these other groups that were enslaved. And I learned that indigenous people enslaved different indigenous groups. And I learned that the Irish were enslaved. And I learned, I just didn't know any of this stuff.

3:32:23BubblemanAnd even when I kind of talked about it, people were kind of like, would get sensitive about it. Like, no, slavery is for this group and this group alone. And I am quite certain that slavery still exists to this day from the trafficking of children to the trafficking, you know, sex slavery, labor slavery. Like it's definitely not over in that sense, which is fucking terrible when you think about it.

3:32:49BubblemanBut yeah, I just think cannabis is still a little bit younger. I also have always thought, and this is the conspiracy person in me. I've always thought that, you know, I guess to the deepest, like if we were on the five grams of mushrooms and I really cracked open and told you, I'd probably say, look, like the demons, they don't like the cannabis. The demons, they like the sugar and the cigarettes and the booze and the pharma.

3:33:16BubblemanThey like what my friend Terry, the guy that used to make that red oil back in the day from the Kootenays, would call the deadners cannabis. The soul deadeners, the ones that just twist you off at both ends, you know, just twist you off. So now you're disconnected on both ends instead of being in this like morphogenetic resonance of your species. Yeah, it just, it seemed to me that cannabis would change the way you, I was still trying to wrap my head around it when they finally gave it to us, when they finally said we could have it and that legalization was going to happen.

3:33:51BubblemanEven though I get we fought tooth and nail for it, it's still them deciding that they lost. Do you know what I mean?

3:34:17BubblemanWhat are they going to do? How is this going to be a negative? Canada, a decade or more after having a medical cannabis platform, the Health Canada states and makes a public quote that says, we do not believe there's any medicinal value to cannabis. Yet they're Health Canada and they're in charge of the distribution and control and regulatory framework of cannabis as a medicine in Canada. It seems to me as a conflict of interest if that group made a comment or a quote saying, we do not believe in the medicinal efficacy of cannabis.

3:34:54BubblemanThat they would probably be removed from that group and you would bring in people that understood the medical efficacy of cannabis. So long story short, that's kind of how I feel. Maybe one day it'll be different because there are strange similarities. With cannabis and, you know, segregation and just how cannabis, how you kind of became that segregated group. Oh, you're over here. I'll never forget the first time the customs guy said that to me.

3:35:25BubblemanOh, sorry, sir. You're in this line. I'm sure that's what it sounded like exactly in 1947 when you went to go use the bathroom and you got told, oh, no, sorry, you have too much melanin in your skin. You're in this line, because I'll tell you, that's definitely how I heard it. And then I heard it for decades ensuing after the first time I heard it, because legalization took a long time.

3:35:49BubblemanLike it certainly wasn't when I was 17. It was like more like when I was 46 or 45 or whatever, whatever it was.

3:35:59Collin PalmerYeah, I kind of agree with you, dude, like this. The social construct of it all is really still in infancy. So you have people like, for instance, I rolled a joint up yesterday, even yesterday. Someone was like, oh, do you feel weird about having that right now? And I looked at him and said, why would you say that? I don't feel weird at all. I mean, you're holding a beer.

3:36:24Collin PalmerLike they were literally holding a beer.

3:36:27BubblemanBecause it's part of the social construct and ours, the propaganda is part of the social construct for us. So even yesterday, I was with my very Christian father-in-law sitting by the fire at my neighbor's house. And I just said, I just pulled out my bowlman. And he was like, what's that? I'm like, oh, this is like a little electronic dab tool. He's like, well, what is that?

3:36:46BubblemanI'm like, well, you know, the bubble hash that I make and then I squash it into oil. Well, I can put it in this little bowl here and I can take a nice little rip. And he's just like, oh, interesting. He's holding it. He's looking at it. He's like, look at that. It looks just like a Coleman. That is hilarious. And he passes it back. And he's going to end up having a beer.

3:37:07BubblemanHe does not use cannabis in any way, shape, or form. But this allowed him to see cannabis without the filter of propaganda. This didn't look enough like a bong to set his energies off. And this... Looked nothing like a bong. So it was a totally new thing that no propaganda had ever been created against. So he was able to be like, well, would you look at that?

3:37:32BubblemanIsn't that neat? That's wild. I'm like, yeah. And then you just put the water piece, the mouthpiece on and you got a glass piece. I said, the guy was so smart, Roger, Jolly Roger, who created this company is that He's created an item that may be perceived to take money out of the pockets of the glassblower who's making pipes for us to take dabs with. Well, this is more convenient.

3:37:58BubblemanThis is more portable. This has no propaganda against it. It checks all of these boxes for new people to be exposed to these products without that wall going up. Thank you so much for joining us.

3:38:29BubblemanAnd I was blowtorching quartz. You'd also think it was hardcore. It would change the way you perceive. And that change is so deeply and systematically embedded in our culture that you have to move around it and get decades under your belt before you'll be able to come back to a group of people who never had that propaganda fed into them. Because 80 and 70 and 60 year old people Thank you so much for joining us.

3:39:11BubblemanJust pop it right off. And now you can inspire glass blowers to create creations for this pipe. And now you have a combination of this roots, the group that started it all, and super noobs like soccer moms and people like my wife's uncle Brent. who's you know very you know he's not out puffing big bowls on the regular but he was able to hold this in his hand and have no ill will i got to sit next to the fire rip a bunch he's like oh look at that the light through and i'm like yeah man there's a light you can turn on and it shines and it's He was just thinking it was so cool.

3:39:50BubblemanAnd so I got to give props to Puffco and many other companies that are sort of pushing the boundaries on the normalization of DAB culture, removing the torch from the scene and bringing it back to something that's just a little more civilized, if you will.

3:40:11Collin PalmerI did the same thing with the proxy yesterday. I actually let someone smell jars and they're like, oh, this one smells hoppy. And they're beer drinkers and they're like, oh, this one smells like floral. And I started going in on the aromatics and talked about it. And that's what kind of got them. Then I pulled the pipe out and I was like, you see this? You put this in there.

3:40:30Collin PalmerAnd I was like, oh, it was like very... It didn't feel it. You know, like a bong is kind of like what you're alluding to. It's kind of offensive. Like people are like, that's offensive. I don't know, man. Like, that's a bong. You're like, well, it triggers people. It totally does. And like, it shouldn't, but it does. And but the for like, like you're just saying now, the proxy is like that medium.

3:40:52Collin PalmerAnd same thing with the Puffco Peak. It's like you could get people to try something they wouldn't try. You know, it's cool.

3:41:01BubblemanYeah, and Bingo is saying, stop the torch hate. I'm like, listen, I have love for the torch. It's got a place in my heart. It is not how I will turn newbies on to dabs and to flavors and profiles. I gave my brother-in-law one of my pivots the other day. He's like, oh, I'm just getting into puffing. I got this stuff called crumble. I'm like, no, dude, we can't have that.

3:41:27BubblemanSo I take them over to this guy, Sir Squishalot. This guy, Sir Squishalot, who gave me some really nice flavors. I should like at least show them. He was so kind. I think I have one of them in here anyway. This one's super duper gassy, like really beautiful, beautiful product. And, you know, we're at his place. He's got his torches and he's dabbing us all out. And my brother-in-law is just like, whoa, holy shit.

3:41:55BubblemanLike, what's going, what's all this about? And I'm telling him, I'm like, yeah, you know, my brother-in-law here, Ryan, he's just getting into puffing. You know, he's like 50 years old. He's just getting into it. He's got crumble. And he's like, oh no, we can't have that. He grabs one of his jars and it's like a jar, like, you know, like this size. It's not like one of these.

3:42:14BubblemanAnd he just pulls this jar out and he puts it in my brother-in-law's hand. He's like, here, man, that ought to get you started. It's second press, but you'll love it. And I opened it up and I was like, damn, this is a nice second press. He's like, yeah, I press pretty low temp. Gives him this beautiful jar. In that moment, I knew I have to give Ryan my pivot.

3:42:32BubblemanI just right this minute, I have to open my little bag, which I did. I opened this little green bag. And I think I have a pivot in here right now. I do. I have a pivot and a proxy, which I only need one of each. I don't need two of each. So I hooked him up with the pivot. He got the rosin. And I felt like we had done God's work, me and Jamie, me and Sir Squishes a lot.

3:42:57BubblemanWe passed on. Turning someone on, listen. Prior to that pivot existing, what could we have given him in that moment that wouldn't be like a $500 gift? It just made it so much more affordable. It's like 150 bucks or whatever. It's like, you know what, dude, you deserve this. I want you to have this. Like, so he's, you know. I gave him a whole tub of glob mops.

3:43:23BubblemanShout out to Bowie and the good folks at glob mops. Always keeping us cleaned up nicely. I still have like, my God, I must have, I don't even know how many of these I have, but it must be like a hundred boxes. He sent me a giant box one day. He's like, hey, I'm going to send you some glob mops. I thought he was going to send me like five of these.

3:43:43BubblemanAnd he sends me like this box that is literally like so full. I was like, you are the man, Bowie, but you're also a fucking crazy motherfucker. Thank you.

3:43:55Collin PalmerThat's awesome. Hooking them up like that is like, that is God's work. That's like setting someone up properly to have great experiences. And that's, that's unique. You know, like, I don't think any of us had someone that was like, Hey, like here to use it. We all kind of have to figure it out, you know? So it's awesome. And it changes everyone's experience. When you take a hot dab, man, you're like, I don't like it.

3:44:23Collin PalmerI don't like that stuff. And you may not understand why. But it's because of that Red Hot Dab that you don't like it anymore. And that's...

3:44:33BubblemanIt's a big part of it, for sure. I think delivering proper dabs and temps and low temps and all these, you know, or dab rights and the tools for properly recognizing the temperature and delivering that proper to me is such a special thing that... It's, uh, of course you can share Wade Memorial stuff. We would love, no, we have not done. I shouted Wade out earlier. I shouted out Sam and talked a little bit about them, but we did not share any of the Memorial stuff.

3:45:03BubblemanI did get an email from Monica that I lost. Yes, there you go. Perfect. July 12th. So hopefully, maybe she'll even let us stream it. I'll understand if she doesn't want to, but we would love to stream and all be a part of Wade's memorial. I don't know if you're going, Etienne, if someone's going that can film it, if you've reached out to Monica.

3:45:25Etienne FontanNot only am I going, I've been asked to moderate the story, his life. So I guess I'm going to be moderating different people from his life. Speaking about it. So yes, I am going to be actually part of it. So yes, it's open to everybody. It's in Nevada City. And yeah, I'll be going with my emotional support human. My friend Mike and I are going to go down because we used to go visit Wade and take him medicine as well as we took him a Puffco, which helped him greatly.

3:45:58Etienne FontanYou saw when we shared that here and sorry, I get choked up when talking about this because I miss my friend. But yeah, we're going to get together and celebrate his life because we love him. We miss him. And this is going to be for us and especially for Monica. So send your love and appreciation. And that's where we will be at Miner's Foundry. So if you're able to come, cool.

3:46:24Etienne FontanStop by, say hello if you're unable to. I'll do the best that we can, but I'm part of it, so I won't be able to be the streaming host.

3:46:32BubblemanYeah, we all reach out to Monica and figure that out if she wants that in the first place. And if she does, I will absolutely stream that even though it's on a Saturday, we will hit it. We will bring it we will be here the whole time. And I'll let you guys know you'll see it on the channel show up if if Monica wants that she sent me an email.

3:46:52BubblemanThank you for watching.

3:47:09BubblemanI definitely, I mean, it's probably only less than 1% of my emails, but it definitely happens. And it happened with her. So I did send her a text the other day. I haven't heard back from her yet. But hopefully we can stream that because that would be just a nice vibe to listen to people say beautiful things about Wade, to hear about Wade, to see photos of Wade.

3:47:29BubblemanI would very much like that because I can't just go down there right now until I get that waiver happening. So

3:47:38Etienne FontanIt's okay, you'll be with us in spirit regardless, so we understand, but we do look forward to a time when you can share space and time with us.

3:47:49Collin PalmerYeah, well, we love Wade, you know, he was such an important aspect of our Sundays, so it'd be great to honor him, you know, so... What we should do, as I was thinking about it, as I was thinking if we get some of his genetics, maybe do some outcrosses and provide them back to the community. That might be something that, you know, in the spirit of Wade, might be a great thing to do.

3:48:19BubblemanDude, we could sell them for $5,000 a pack. How sick would that be, bro?

3:48:24Etienne FontanYo.

3:48:25BubblemanOh my God, dude. Right after Sam passed away, there were people with Instagram accounts claiming they had the last of his hayseeds. Like, just like, just the greasiest. It's like, hey, don't forget, don't forget, humans are still shitty. I'm just like, really? Like, you gotta be like that shitty? Like...

3:48:46Etienne FontanI do not think... Yeah, they had somebody claiming to be his son, someone claiming to be his dog. Yeah, it was good, yeah.

3:48:51Collin PalmerSame thing happened to Bog. Remember Bog? Same thing happened to... Dude, there's so... Even same thing happened to Sub. I mean, dude, there was a million people trying to say they had Subcool Cs. It was crazy. It always happens. You know, humans are... They're just insane. It's just... It's just sad, man. You know? Being opportunistic in a time of mourning, it's very, it's just greasy, as Marcus said, greasy.

3:49:21BubblemanI guess everyone has to have different lessons to learn things. I don't know. I try to see, I try to look at it through the Wade filter. And you know Wade would have some super positive filter to look at it through. He always had such just positive words. His words never let down, led you down a path of like, Yeah, I remember when he came on the show and told us he was going to

3:50:07Collin PalmerI think I was hosting at the time. He came in and he was told us that he was going to go off the medication and it just, just, yeah, I could, I felt, I felt it from him, you know, that he didn't want to express his pain, but he wanted to express his journey, you know, and that's a, it's unique, man.

3:50:31Etienne FontanWell, thank you, Marcus, for also letting him have a voice to share with us. The uncomfortable realities that are reality, right? Because in society, I took a class at West Virginia University on death and dying and how we ignore it in Western culture and society and how, you know, we hide our old people away in old folks homes to die as opposed to honoring them. And so Wade gave us a bird's eye view of The good, the bad, and the ugly.

3:51:07Etienne FontanBut he did it in a style and a grace that was completely him. And one, I think, left a strong impression on every single one of us. It's impossible not to. He was that profound.

3:51:20BubblemanSuper powerful, man. I mean, you know, yeah, it's just, it was super powerful. It brought such a good vibe to the show. And I just felt like it was a responsibility more than me being generous or anything like that. I just felt like it was a responsibility to make sure Wade had a good spot to share all this information. And although I never met him in person, he certainly was my brother.

3:51:44BubblemanWe definitely had a good connection. He's just such a good human being and... yeah it makes me sad to think that he's gone in the physical but it makes me happy to think that he will definitely live on in the ethereal in the genetics of cannabis and i guess in all of our stories and in all of our admiration and respect and and uh I'll never forget when he came on Hash Church and showed me a picture of him standing next to Richard Nixon in the White House.

3:52:19BubblemanI was just like, this motherfucker. I was just like, this is unbelievable. I just couldn't even believe.

3:52:31BubblemanThat that was happening that, you know, like there's another depth to Wade. I had no idea his story of his first smoking the joint at the camp with the counselors was amazing. He's at fucking camp smoking his first joint. Like I thought that was an amazing story. He had some pretty good ones, you know, his just the helping, you know, listen, we met Wade. No, I met Wade.

3:52:58BubblemanI don't know how you all met Wade, but we met. I met Wade through Forrest. And through the help that he was doing through the Caladrius Network. And that was sort of how that began. And I can't even remember how I met Forrest. But Hash Church has been amazing. It's a family. I reached out to Colton Turner the other day. I said, bro, we'd love to have you back on the show.

3:53:18BubblemanWe want to hear from you. We want updates. Sometimes it's maybe my lack of ability to do a thousand things at once. I do sometimes wish I had a Hash Church team. But I reached out to Colton and hopefully he'll reply. I also reached out to Caroline, the Hope dealer as she goes as on Instagram. And she was the mother of the Darren, the boy in one billion who had the two super rare diseases and was like on his deathbed when she gave him the oil and brought him back.

3:53:53BubblemanAnd he's like in his thirties now, like healthy and happy and living life when he was literally had already like He had already done his funeral at like 11 or 12 years old. He had held over as his, you know, he ran his funeral. So pretty cool to reach out to those people. I wish we could reach out to even more. I wanted to get Ross Albrecht's mom on here and talk about what it's like having Ross out of prison, you know, get some of these old characters back on and yeah, just remind ourselves that it has been a pretty insane journey in the last 11 years of gathering Sundays on this show.

3:54:37BubblemanFirst of all, I thank each and every one of you that are available. To come on and want to do it and want to share. I think it's a huge blessing. I definitely want to shout out how cool the sponsorship has been on Hash Church and how cool the sponsors have been. You know, like no one's laid into me. Hey, we don't want to sponsor a show if If someone's on there sick and dying, like people, the sponsors were so supportive in any way they could be for Wade and, you know, super supportive of Sam after before and after the passing.

3:55:10BubblemanSo it's been it just shows you there's a really tight community. And if you can connect to the right ones, it's hard because the community is also like embedded with the business, the industry and the industry is cutthroat and it's nasty. And there's some real Fucking nasty people that you wouldn't ever want to have come across you. And they just travel through the community. And you don't always know.

3:55:35BubblemanThey don't always have a sign like industry shark. You know, it's they put on a good face sometimes to be a community person. So I think that the 10 plus years that we've been gathering here has created a very cool little community, a micro community of the macro of the very big cannabis community. I certainly want to thank everyone who comes and watches every week from Robert in Spain with his cows, Carol LEDs as he goes on as in the chat room there.

3:56:07BubblemanBingo Lombardi and John Maddox for always holding it down. OG Brick 420 Organic Farming with just blasting out the fucking yanking roots and the fucking pollen calmer. Like all in one episode. That was that was high level. We're giving you high fives on that organic farming. Camden Fragman, Tony Bologna, Susie Sherlock, Lord Sav, Buddy Weeds, all the good folks. You guys show up every week and you talk and you're like respectful.

3:56:36BubblemanYou don't troll. And you seem to desire learning and new information. You come with a very, very positive perspective that I have learned from over the 10 years because I always come into Hash Church with the perspective of learning. I certainly don't know it all my whole trip. And I tell my kids this all the time. Surround yourself with people who are better at everything. Smarter, better, stronger, faster.

3:57:06BubblemanYeah. Surround yourself with those people, as many of them as you can, because holy shit, will they ever lift you up? All tides do rise all boats or tides rise all boats. Especially when it comes to quality folks, when you have that quality tide. So I want to thank my quality tide, Etienne, Colin, Brian, Best Friend Farms, Dr. Mark, who was here earlier. Ryan Lee, aka Chimera, and Josh and Kelly from the Dragonfly Earth Medicine Squad.

3:57:38BubblemanI want to thank the Press Club and their groovy spoons. I like these spoons. I'm going to get you one, Brian. And of course, Puffco for holding it down. Hemper on this day because, wow, what a nice little gift that was. Cheers, everyone. May the full melt bless your bowl sooner than later. We will join you next Sunday. Thanks, brother. Peace.