Skully Vibes draws live

0:03BubblemanAll right, Easter Sunday, Easter Sunday live hash church popping up. All right, I just about, well, let's wait. Oh, I see what we got to do. I see what we got to do. We got to go in here. We got to hit this go live button. I keep forgetting about the go live button. So I'm recording right now, but we're not live yet. So here we go.

0:28BubblemanGoing live. Never lets you know exactly when you're live. So let me just give it another 30 seconds or so. We'll see it go live here soon. Are we live? Are we live? Are we live? You tell me if we're live. Oh, perfect. Look, there it is. Welcome everyone to Hash Church, season 12, episode 14. Pretty stoked on this. Let me see. Oh, there we go. Just got to find all the...

1:06BubblemanThere it is. There it is. Sorry, I have like five different YouTube chats open. And so the audio comes through. But I'm really excited about today's episode. I damn near made a serious mistake. I just put my jar on top of my universal heater to heat up my bubble so I could pour it out onto a jar. And man, I damn near boiled this shit to nothing.

1:29BubblemanGot it a little darker than it should be. But this is not rosin. This is full melt bubble. So we're going to be enjoying that for the show today. And then in the meantime, we're going to shout out our sponsors. And then I'm going to let a bunch of people into the room who are waiting right now. So let's start with here we go. These guys are probably like, hey, I'm in the room.

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5:42BubblemanSo let's get these folks in here. We got seven people waiting and I'm going to be letting them in. Today is obviously a Colorado-based show. We got a ton of cool folks from Colorado. Scraped the 90U bag, the Colorado 90U bag for the high quality. And this is what I came up with. So pretty excited to have you guys all in the room here today. Stoked to see Skully do some drawing.

6:11BubblemanStoked to see Kyle talk a little bit about the reserve, a new program that we have going. And just, yeah, you know, got Kay from in-house. We got Jack. I think Stuart's showing up for minor melts. Maybe he's in the house already. Awesome. Really good. Nick's in the house from Portal Provisions. We got Wooly Farmer in the chat room saying that he's known Nick for 13 years.

6:38BubblemanSo he's stoked to hear what you got to say, Mr. Portal Provisions. All right. Wonderful. Skully Vibes, you're in the house. How you doing, buddy? Hey, good morning. I'm doing good. How are you? I'm doing good, man. We're going to figure out how we're going to set this up. I think we can do an in, like, side-by-side mode where we share your screen, we put it up, and then we'll be in the screen next to it.

7:04BubblemanAnd that way... I like the idea of you being able to, you know, draw live and we're not like cutting away constantly. But I think before we get to that, it would be cool to get a little introduction from you, Mr. Skully Vibes. I met Skully at... At Kyle's incredible place, which we'll be talking about here in the near future, the Reserve, which is a super top tier.

7:32BubblemanI mean, really, it's his spot. It's where he's living, but it's also this incredible event space. I don't even want to call it an event space. It seems like that's below the space itself, but we'll get into the space in a little bit. That's where I met Skully. And I had this idea really just about a week or two ago. I thought, I was I was reminded of the old school Soundtribe Sector 9 concerts.

7:58BubblemanAnd I think some other bands did it as well, where they just have some psychedelic artists sitting on the stage painting, you know, a painting over the course of the concert. And I thought, man, that is a cool concept to really sort of. And I did it a little bit back in the day. For those of you that collected glass, you might know I had a website called Full Melt Bubble.

8:21BubblemanI can't really remember what year that was, maybe 05, 06, 07 or something. It was kind of after I closed my gallery, The Melting Point, but I've always had this insistent urge to promote artists and really to promote glass artists because glass and hash go together like peanut butter and jelly and I'm a sucker for a good peanut butter and jelly sandwich. And so I allowed my gallery, sorry, my online website, Fulmel Bubble, to be used as a free place for glassblowers to buy and sell glass.

8:54BubblemanSo it was kind of like a flea market for glassblowers on this site. So I've always kind of had that connection. I think that it's a really cool idea to be able to have you on here today and doing your thing. But first and foremost, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got into this art form and sort of what tied you in to the cannabis community.

9:19SpeakerOh, thank you. So I actually started out working in the cannabis community in dispensaries in 2016. And I was the GM of like a larger dispensary here in Denver for like six years. And man, I just saw how much love the cannabis community showed artists the entire time. It was always something that I had done as a little bit as a hobby. I was always drawing cartoons and doodling in sketchbooks, but not really something that I'd considered as like a career.

9:46SpeakerI thought I was going to be a dispensary manager and that was going to be it for the rest of my life. And you know, I filled up the whole office with comics and stuff all over the walls and people kept coming in and telling me, hey man, these are pretty good. You should consider doing these a little bit more legit. Uh, so I, I started a collection, uh, called the smoking skulls where I drew 710 different skulls.

10:11SpeakerUm, and they all kind of sold over the course of a year. And I was like, kind of shocked. I didn't realize that I could make money doing art. Um, and I had a little bit of a heart to heart with my boss and myself and, uh, I went full time in 2022. And yeah, I don't know, the rest is kind of history. I've been drawing as much as I can, collabing with people that I mess with in town and really just trying to like bring a good positive vibe to the community and put out artwork that people really connect with and that I connect with, shows who I am.

10:47BubblemanFuck yeah, that's what's up, dude. I remember you actually mentioning that you had worked at dispensaries. Great kind of start to get in and fall into the art world. While you were talking, I realized that for some reason, a lot of what people are posting in the chat room now are like, I don't know if it's like a timing thing, but 80% of what people are posting in the chat room are is is being blocked so yeah you might want to reset the chat if you need to um anyone you can just reset it by you know opening the page again and hopefully we can get that working because yeah there's always like two or three or 400 people watching live that are going to uh you know want to keep chatting and if that uh if they're not able to that will muck us up uh definitely a little bit for sure How are you doing, Kay?

11:41BubblemanYou were showing some niceness over there. What's going on with you, man? You got all sorts of shit coming out?

11:46K InhouseYeah, we got a whole bunch of stuff, man. Thank you so much for having us on the channel, Bubble Man. Really appreciate your time. Always have the most respect for you. Been following you for... Shit, it's probably been 15 years now, man. So, yeah, man, it's been it's been really fun. But I appreciate you having us. And yeah, just excited to be here. What's up, everybody? What's up, Poor Provisions?

12:05K InhouseWhat's up, Miners Melts? What up, Terps Over Yields? What up, Skully? Yeah, we have a lot of stuff coming here in the future. But yeah, we're a rec cash company here in Colorado. So and on med shelves, too. So we have a lot of stuff happening, a lot of things coming, a lot of things that are that we're excited to announce. However, you know, just grateful to be here.

12:29K InhouseOh, yeah, dude.

12:30BubblemanThat's what's up. Well, you know what? I kind of, well, I would say I handpicked you guys, but Kyle definitely helped handpick you guys. I just wanted a representation of, you know, some of the best that are doing it in Colorado. Obviously, I've entered the fray of the Colorado market here in the last, I guess, year or a little less that we've been operational, but yeah. I just thought that, as always, what a cool thing to do instead of be competitive, like figure out collaborations, figure out ways to promote the brands in Colorado that I'm the most stoked about while I'm still kind of doing my own thing, you know, like consistently in-house and minors, you Terps Over Yields, Portal.

13:17BubblemanThese are some of the nicest dabs I've seen while I'm in Colorado dabbing my own products. These are the products that I see that are just at that level where there's that passion and there's that love. Thank you so much for joining us.

13:54BubblemanWhich is super important. And I've just been completely impressed with Colorado on all levels. I've only been there maybe three times so far, but it's just gotten better and better and better every time I've got gone there. In regards to the quality of the people, the food, the vibes, the space where, you know, I'm spending my time now, which we're going to get into that in a little bit as well.

14:21BubblemanAnd just I thought, shit, we might as well have a little show. We'll get Skully to do some drawing and we'll we'll kind of go from there. Did you want to set up your sharing screen at all?

14:36K InhouseAre you asking me or Skully? Skully.

14:39SpeakerOkay. Oh, can you see this, the Photoshop that I have set up right here?

14:45BubblemanYes. I just have to either, I have to figure out when I go into, when you go into share screen, There will be a button on the side that says side by side. And I think that's the one you want to click on while you share your screen. And that will allow your screen to be shared always. And then the speakers will kind of show up next to that screen.

15:11BubblemanSo. We'll give that a shot if you want, or I can keep coming back to you. I can pin you. I can do this a million different ways. I think what I'm going to start with, and I would suspect or I would suggest that maybe all of you start with it as well, is a nice fat dab of melt. I think that's probably a good... Dude, I poured this melt into here today.

15:36BubblemanIt was liquid. Thank you for watching.

15:56BubblemanManage to, yeah, you know, I'll give you a, I'll give you a little trick, okay? You'll really appreciate this. When you've got a screensaver behind you and you're trying to show product, put it in front of your face or your body because there's no, there's no, there's no green screen there and it'll always, and if you want to, you know, get rid of your green screen and show something close up, you know, you got to, you got to get, get the hands in there and create the, create the green screen.

16:25SpeakerThe pictures you sent me yesterday looked amazing, Marcus, from Whistler. I was really, really, I was grueling, man. I was like, I cannot deal. Colorado has no snow right now. So for you sending me those photos, I was like, there's nothing I can do. I have to leave the country.

16:42BubblemanYou know, another big change for me that involves Colorado, which Colorado is just like a magnet to me right now. It's really pulling me in hard. I have always gotten a...

16:54BubblemanThank you so much for watching.

17:09BubblemanI don't know, 30 or 40 other mountains, maybe even more. So I'm going to be buying that one this year. Here, literally, it renews tomorrow, if you can imagine. The Whistler Pass renews tomorrow for next year. That's what I have is the Epic. It's great. I'll get the Epic. I didn't use it this year, though. I didn't get a chance. There was no snow. Dude, it's great, he says.

17:31BubblemanI didn't use it this year. I would be like calling about, what am I saying? Call, veil, and complain.

17:38SpeakerBill is definitely net negative this year. There's no question.

17:41BubblemanDude, they don't give a fuck. They are not into like taking care of their customers. They're just like, dude, listen, we don't give a fuck about you. It's a true story.

17:51SpeakerWell, I saw an article. They're going to be cloud seeding next year like crazy because the amount of money they lost this year was they can't have it happen again next year. Oh, we'll see what the conditions are.

18:00BubblemanIsn't that just a conspiracy?

18:03SpeakerNo, no, there's a whole article about Vail Resort, you know, cloud seeding and making the most snow and having the most epic winter next year that we've ever seen. So we'll see. Let's see how that worked out for Saudi Arabia. Do you remember the flooding?

18:17BubblemanI do. That worked out well for them. We should just fuck with nature. Like we should just like figure out a way to fuck with nature. I mean, I'm sure it'll probably work out for us. Maybe?

18:28SpeakerYeah, profits over nature, right? That's the name of the game.

18:31BubblemanDude, what's everyone hitting while I load this bowl of full mount bubble up? That's the name of the cultivar, by the way.

18:40SpeakerI'm going to see what I, what I'm going to hit here. It's a good question. I just, I literally just took a dab and I'm, I'm flying. What's up, Skully? It's good to see you, brother. Hey, how's it going? I'm excited to, I'm excited for Skully to do her custom mural at the reserve, which I'll get into in a little bit. But Skully is one of the most talented artists in Denver and I'm super pumped that you guys got to connect through my place.

19:02SpeakerAnd there's a lot coming, you know, down the line with what we're working on. So, yeah. Much love, Skully. I've always loved your stuff and glad to be here with you. Hell yeah. Thank you, man.

19:14BubblemanHell yeah. How do you want to go about this, Skully? Do you want to talk and puff for a little bit and then start drawing in a little bit? You just let me know so you don't feel... Like I've forgotten about you and I'm leaving you in limbo.

19:25SpeakerNo, no, you're good. Let me take a dab real quick and then I'll jump right into it. I was just trying to figure out my screen thing because I have this set up in OBS, so I can't reshare my screen through Zoom, if that makes sense. But is there any chance you could pin me maybe?

19:45BubblemanIt's possible that I can pin you. I'm not sure if we do pin you. It'll probably just be you the whole show. We won't. I don't want to do that. We won't be in there. I don't think unless someone wants to let me know. Let's see. Speaker gallery, multi speaker. What if we go multi speaker, but then pin you? Let me see if that works.

20:10SpeakerI might be able to also just leave, turn off OBS real quick and then turn on screen sharing through Zoom and then do the side by side that way. I just might have to leave and rejoin. That's all. So let me know what works best.

20:23BubblemanYeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

20:27SpeakerI had to expand the chat to be able to see everybody. I see Nick Portal Provisions in here. What's up, brother? I see Stuart Miner's Melts. All the homies. The Miner's Melts disposables that you guys brought to our sesh event were absolutely fire. I smoked it down until there was nothing left in it. It tasted amazing the whole time.

20:44BubblemanDude, I finished mine at the airport. People were looking at me like I was a crackhead. I was just fucking like...

20:52SpeakerYeah, it's rare that I'm impressed by a disposable and Miner's Melts I was definitely impressed by. So good work. Keep it up.

20:59BubblemanThat's what's up. It's funny. Disposables are, you know, it's always so interesting the products that you produce and create and the sort of the criticism or the critiques that pop out. And I had a guy the other day And, you know, not that he's wrong and I get it, but he's like, I posted our little vision box elite there, the little bubble man all in one. And this guy goes, oh yeah.

21:31BubblemanAnd you know what? Just toss it on the ground when you're done. And I was kind of like, you know, there's this whole virtue signaling that so many people do when they think they're on the right side of things. You know, like that guy doesn't realize that a he uses single use plastic items every day to the tune of I don't even know how much 80 to 90% of said plastic are not recycled, even though he's virtuous signaling and he's separating them every week and he's putting them in his his recyclable box.

22:00BubblemanYou have to know that 80 to 90% of that, sometimes 94% of that is not recycled, which isn't great, doesn't make me feel good, but at least like don't dilute yourself into thinking something exists in a reality that it really doesn't. You know, here in British Columbia, some guy was like, he was like, I'm going to find out where my shit's going. And he bought like a semi trailer of like plastic to recycle and he put a GPS on it.

22:28BubblemanAnd I think he found it in the Philippines about to go into an incinerator. They like shipped it to the Philippines and they're just burning it there because there's no regulatory framework to keep them from doing it. So weird sort of offshoot of the conversation. But like when you're judging something so harshly, realize that the hypocrisy that's truly behind what you're saying is vast, like sometimes more vast than you can possibly imagine.

22:58BubblemanYeah, that was a wicked dab. Very enjoyable. I got to say, I pulled out the ship after a very long time. I have not pulled this ship out in, it's got to be some years now. I've been puffing out of this little Dustin Revere drop. Quite lovely. A little 10. Very small piece, you know, in comparison. This is substantially larger. But what are you guys' favorite pieces to hit out of?

23:29SpeakerSo Portal Provisions and I went up to see Matt Robertson and I thought I had, you know, some favorite functional pieces, but I'm getting way more into the functioning artistic pieces myself. And I'm going to be going up there tomorrow. Adam's going to be on his podcast and I'm going to be just a total nerd looking at all the glass and trying to figure out as far as like what I want to start collecting more of, um, You know, the perfect mix between functionality and art and like the mothership stuff.

24:00SpeakerI love the functionality and I love the artistic side. And I love supporting a lot of the artists that are, you know, at the top tier of creating these different perks and different styles of glass that kind of set the standard for everybody else.

24:16BubblemanYeah, absolutely. Anyone else? A favorite piece? Like something that really ripped substantial compared to anything else you hit? I just got this one yesterday.

24:24SpeakerOh. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Shout out Holden O'Neill. That's pretty. Yeah, it's got the, let's see if we can pull this off. You're pulling it off. Beautiful. But yeah, this one functions really nicely. Beautiful. It is like somewhere in between like a functional pipe and a glass pipe. But I love me some good glass.

24:52BubblemanYeah, it's interesting how it all ties in. I guess really where it starts, though, would be Mr. Scully. Yes, I will allow thou to share your screen.

25:05BubblemanIt really starts with the resin. And in that sense, the resin starts with the plant. And I feel like everyone here, everyone in the quality game somehow is either themselves or has an in with someone that is like on this deeper level of understanding when it comes to living soil, fungi intelligence. The symbiotic relationship of said fungi intelligence and how it can sequester and acquire the things required for the plant when it needs them, where it needs them, how much it needs of them.

25:49BubblemanEach person that I've seen over the years that seems to have an incredible access to quality of just really what I would consider is in this room. Because for some reason, not everyone does. For some reason, a lot of people grow this plant and are okay with allowing it to express itself in a half-assed sort of shoddy manner. And I feel like the majority of the people in this room Like can't let that happen.

26:21BubblemanSo A, first and foremost, I applaud you for that. And B, if you're looking out to the world of hash makers that are watching and kind of want to get on this pathway, what would you explain? How would you explain like what it is? You know, where that desire starts, where the focus needs to be put in order to, you know, truly grow, first and foremost, six-star resin.

27:00SpeakerAnyone can do it. I have some input on this. I've been doing this in Colorado since 2013. Dropped out of college to jump in the industry here despite pretty much all the backlash from my family and everyone else. And I think if you really want to make the highest quality hash, portal provisions, and I were just talking about this in the car ride up to Matt's studio the other day, you need to go above and beyond on all of the inputs.

27:26SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

27:49SpeakerI think really what it comes down to is that you have to love cannabis and hash so much that you do everything that you can to grow the best quality that you can. And that's my two cents.

28:02Collin PalmerHey, guys. It's really good to be here with y'all. Marcus, much love, man. Nice to see everybody here. You know, this is a huge thing that my team and I think all of our friends, even Marcus, you and I talk about this all the time. You know, you have to make really hard decisions. I think that's one thing most people don't want to admit is when something is mediocre, they're cool with maybe just keeping it in the mix.

28:28Collin PalmerAnd they have to be very... You have to make really hard choices. You have to select. There's a lot more sapphire than there is diamonds. That goes across the board with varietals. It goes across the board with resin. Just because it looks the part doesn't mean it plays the part. And I think that there's a lot of different choices you have to make and just be super honest and be okay with making those tough decisions.

28:54Collin PalmerAnd, you know, a lot of individuals, much like making art here is a good example. These are decisions. Every stroke that he's using is a decision, you know, and that's, I think you should carry that into your work into hash making. And everything Kyle said, like all of that is wrapped into this, you know. So, yeah, that's my two cents.

29:15BubblemanWelcome, brother. I will say that you hit the nail on the head, and I will explain to you guys where it came from for me. I was not lucky enough. Well... I didn't know about like super, I mean, that's not true either. 91, we definitely did organic growing, but I didn't have a deep enough understanding of it. I was, I grew salts after that. And for me, I still grew decent resin, or at least what I thought was good resin, but it wasn't until I started making hash with bags and making hash for a particular friend of mine who had a cultivar called the Rene.

29:54BubblemanThis was very early on, probably in the late 90s. And he would give me this trim. And also, I have a very sensitive olfactory. I can smell when something is off in cannabis, especially if I light and burn it. And in the 90s, there was this crazy flush of people using sulfur burners for powdery mildew in the Pacific Northwest. Like so many people were using this. And so when they started using it, I immediately could taste it when people around me couldn't and it would freak me out.

30:32BubblemanAnd I remember going to the Compassion Club. My friend Hillary Black started the BC Compassion Club and I went down there. And I said, look, if you can't smell it outright, pull a tiny bit of the plant matter out of the bag and light it with a lighter and just close your eyes and smell it. And if you smell like burnt matches, you'll know that sulfur is in there.

30:54BubblemanAnd these sulfur compounds, most people's noses are extremely sensitive to them, even if they don't have a sensitive olfactory. And so the first time I made Renee hash, And I had like an ounce of full melt Renee hash, dude. I'll never forget it. I was standing two doors down from where I live right now, two doors down on my deck. And I hit this thing in a bong.

31:21BubblemanAnd it was like the most concentrated, it was like a pack of matches being lit when you hit it, but just caramel bubbling, like I'd never seen anything like it. And I would never be got again, I'll tell you, to take a full rip of sulfurated full melt was like, oh my God. I stood on my deck with this beautiful ounce of like translucent Rene full melt, And I hocked it off my deck and like watch it spun into the air.

31:55BubblemanAnd for me, that was a very hard decision because I thought of like, oh, someone could do this with it. They could do that with it. I was like, this is an abomination. It has to go. These are the hard decisions. It's I didn't want to do it, but it was a very hard decision. And that metaphorically, I hear what you're saying, Colin, because it's that way all the way through.

32:18BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

32:35Collin PalmerYou know, like, dude, we do it all the time. We had a blue sushi cut that came through, and we were just like, this isn't it, guys. Like, I don't care what this is. It just is not it. Turn it into something else. And we made it into edibles. That's just what it was, right? And... Yeah, we lost like probably a thousand grams of finished goods, but that's okay.

32:59Collin PalmerBecause the other flip side of that is that we put that in a jar. Some kid gets it and he's like, dude, this is what these guys make. Right. Like, that's not OK with us, you know, and that's right or wrong. It doesn't really matter because we made that choice to let that go out to Marcus's joint. And Marcus made that choice to not let it go.

33:20Collin PalmerHe's like, the woods will reclaim this, you know. So I think there's something, you know, enlightening and really freeing to making those choices. And I think in this moment of Skunk Man, actually. Where he used to talk about how much he loved killing plants. And I think that was because of the unabashedly passionate, driven sensibility they had for resin. And I think that these are things you acquire and learn over time, as Marcus said so well.

33:53Collin PalmerYou don't just have it all of a sudden, right? You get surrounded by those that can educate and teach you and enlighten yourself. So I think, you know, with that said, you know, shout out to Skunk Man, you know, because it's that ideology has never been lost on myself. And I know it's never been lost on you, Marcus. It's one of the biggest things you've been vocal about through the time I've met you is, you know, there is just not going to be that much diamonds.

34:18Collin PalmerThere's going to be a lot more sapphire. So how do we get to that? I think it's just... You know, collectively talking to one another and sharing and trying to have good self-reflection on what you're actually doing through the process. So what a story though, man, an ounce, Jesus.

34:36BubblemanOh, it was the most I ever threw away.

34:38Collin PalmerEspecially back then. Like that was like, for those that don't understand, like to get that much. Yeah, like to get that much back then was like, you might as well.

34:48BubblemanNobody even knew what it was. Trust me. Right, right. We called it the great humbler because everyone would take a knee. It really like people weren't used to strength like that. And with Full Melt Bubble and BHO coming out simultaneously, it really did train the public in a quicker way, at least the portion that was dabbing. I personally don't see people like green out or fall down the way I did in the late 90s, early 2000s.

35:18Collin PalmerI will say I did see someone at an event. I was like literally sitting like Don and Aaron was with me. We were sitting there. DNA was there. We were just doing dabs. And right to the left of me, this kid just had a moment. And I just look over and I'm like, do we need to... You know, hold this guy's head up and make sure he's okay.

35:37Collin PalmerIt was my first experience seeing that. But I think, you know, to your point, it's very few and far between, especially, you know, in 2026. That was still like four years ago when I saw that. Yeah. Sure.

35:54BubblemanHow are things going over by you, Stuart? Tell us what's going on with the minor mounts.

36:03BubblemanOh, we can't hear you. Even though you're not muted.

36:09BubblemanHmm. This is the technical difficulty portion of the show.

36:16SpeakerI'll just switch over to my computer here.

36:22BubblemanI heard that.

36:27SpeakerDid hear that. We're on the mountain Wi-Fi.

36:31K InhouseI think my...

36:36BubblemanDude, I'm looking forward to getting back to Colorado in May. I feel like I need to experience Colorado in May.

36:45SpeakerWe're going to experience Colorado in 7-10 as well. It's going to be a good time, Marcus. We're gearing up for some serious, serious moves here. Denver's going to be put on the map again, and I couldn't be more stoked.

36:58BubblemanDude, see, I never even knew Denver when it was like not on the map or more on the map or any other Denver other than the Denver I know now. And yeah, I like it.

37:10SpeakerOh, it's great. You know, it's changed a lot. I mean, over the past decade, a lot of people have come and go. There was a huge, you know, I'd say shift to Oklahoma when Oklahoma went legal and a lot of the people expanded. But yeah, no, Colorado is one of the best places. And, you know, we have some of the best people here on this panel right now that are going to be a part of the events that we're going to throw.

37:32SpeakerAnd it's going to be great. Jumble.

37:35BubblemanOh, yeah, dude. I'm excited. I'm definitely excited to get back in May and get more involved. I'm going to go to that Boston knee can, go see Colin out on the East Coast for a little bit.

37:49Collin PalmerYeah, buddy. I love that event. It's a good one.

37:53BubblemanYeah, I've never been, but we'll see how it goes.

37:58Collin PalmerIt's going to be dope. I can't wait to get you out here and get some good food and Maybe I'll get Best Friend Farms to come down. I was thinking about him, trying to get him to come out of his, off the hill up in Maine.

38:13SpeakerColin, make sure you get the best fish places for Marcus here.

38:16Collin PalmerThe best fish. We got it on lock. You know, it's funny. For those that don't know, most of the sushi comes from Gloucester, Massachusetts in the United States. So there's actually, I had no clue when I came up here from New York Any of this stuff is pretty cool.

38:36SpeakerI spent a lot of time in Gloucester. I love it there. My family has a house on the water there, and it's definitely expanded big time. I spent a lot of time in Martha's Vineyard and Gloucester and Tuckett. I built a facility in Gloucester. Yeah, Gloucester's a great place, man.

38:54Collin PalmerYeah, it's interesting, but yeah, it's cool. It's a nice fishing town. It's just a totally different vibe than the rest of, you know, mass. It's really interesting. It's cool. It's really cool. And then there's a big surfing community just north of that. Up into Maine, which is cool, and into Nova Scotia. And there's killer herb all up in the Northeast, like just really good private growers that have held clones and cuts and genetics for a super long time.

39:27Collin PalmerIt's kind of refreshing, to be honest, like seeing some of the older stuff that I thought were just gone. You know, some guy pulls out a bag, he's like, remember this juicy fruit? And you're like, what? You know, I haven't seen some of these varietals and So what's up with Denver? You know, I, you know, I don't think you guys fell off. I think, you know, in my opinion, like Marcus, I feel like you guys have been steadily kind of going, going forward and carving out a good lane.

39:56Collin PalmerAnd, you know, yeah, it's hard to grow good dry cure flower, but, you know, you know, nothing like a good challenge, you know? So how's the, how's it changed for you guys? And what's, what's exciting for you guys out there now?

40:10SpeakerSo I want, I'll give my perspective and Nick, Portal Provisions, if you can chime in just on your opinion. You know, I've seen the scene here change significantly from a lot of the OGs that were all banded together from, I'd say like 2010 to around 2014 to 2015 and everyone kind of fractioned off.

40:31SpeakerSo you would have events that all of like you'd have Adam Dunn, you'd have Scott Reach, you'd have, you know, all of the like Giddy Up, all the original, you know, pioneering BHO guys. And they would all come together and get together. And then you'd have like, you know, Nick Atee and on all the Rosin guys that all came together and they weren't fractionalized in their own camps that were against each other.

40:52SpeakerSo when I say we've fallen off, it's not that we've fallen off. It's just that things have changed. And when you look at Denver compared to somewhere like California or Washington or Oregon, when it comes to the actual hash scene, specifically Rosen, they trump us all around as far as the events, the crowds they bring. I mean, you look at PuffCon, you look at Ego Clash, you look at a lot of these events that draw a lot of the really high-end hash people.

41:17SpeakerWe really don't have anything like that in Denver. We have two places that you can publicly consume that do a lot of events. They throw local events, but by no means are they hash destination events like you'd see with PuffCon or Ego Clash or any of the other ones that you guys know of. So, Nick, if you want to chime in a little bit, you have much more of a pulse on, I'd say, the headiest side of rosin in Colorado, and you can kind of give your perspective of Denver versus the rest of the country right now.

41:46SpeakerYeah, for sure. Thanks for having me on, Marcus. Shout out to the homie, Tom Woolley Farmer, that was mentioning that we've known each other for 13 years because we used to watch Ash Church together on Sundays. But I would say like a bit of what happened in Colorado has to do with like Regulatory things. So when licensed lounges came around, like back in the days that Kyle was talking about, like everything was a little bit more gray.

42:18SpeakerSo you could just kind of throw the events and like do things a little bit more just differently because there was less of a regulatory framework. Now that licensed lounges exist, they're a great resource for people to have but because of the regulatory framework involved you really just can't throw the same events and whom it's beneficial to attend those events or sponsor those events changes so you know people in the gray market may not want to be rubbing elbows with people in the recreational market because there's you know regulatory bodies coming around those events Um, it's like kind of like a really simple way that I look at it.

43:10SpeakerAnd then like, in terms of high end stuff, like, like, like you're talking about, like the headiest part of hash, I would say also like, and you know, like, I would love to hear what Stuart has to say about this a bit. Um, if he can get his wifi sorted out or maybe he can like turn his video off. So he has good bandwidth for his voice because Stu's kind of an OG in this area.

43:34SpeakerBut I think like the timeframes that you referenced, like when, when Rosin was new and there's very few people doing it, like it was a much tighter knit community. It seemed like I'm, I'm new to this game, you know, in that way. Like, but back then I remember like being, there was only a handful of people I could take what I was growing to have processed and stuff.

43:54SpeakerAnd it was just smaller. And then over time, like when I started making Rosin myself, which was back in like, 2019 or 2020 something like that um everybody in Colorado was doing the same thing so like there was everybody was running the same cuts everybody was growing the same way there wasn't a lot of differentiation in like living soil growers and things of that nature having prominent brands um and so I think The perspective may have been that like our quality had declined, essentially, like there was not so much like people hunting new things and like really putting it out there on display and getting attention for it.

44:47SpeakerSo I think what Kyle's referring to is just like a shift away from the extreme amount of attention that the Denver scene was getting back in the days of like Pink House and Nicotine and when when Rosin was kind of like I know you guys have done a bunch of, you know, different shows on like the history of solventless and rosin and stuff, but there was a time where Colorado was really pushing it and that shifted away from here and went to other places.

45:22SpeakerAnd I think, you know, like it was California for a long time and California is super OG, but my current personal opinion is that the craziest solventless scene right now is actually up in Maine and New England. I've had a lot of fun traveling there in the last- I would agree with that. And I think the shift happened when peer pressure sold to Agrify is when, you know, the stuff in Colorado really started to, like I said, fractionalize and things started to change.

45:56SpeakerYou know, you had this corporate greed that came in. You had a bunch of idiots that were running a company that had no idea the culture. And we're trying to make moves based on profits versus, you know, pushing the actual You know, science of the plant. So for me, that was really the pivoting point. And we had a lot of attention here for hash, you know, from the BHO side for we pretty much pioneered the legal C1D1 side of doing it between Emotech, ETS, and all the OGs that created, you know, the legal framework to do BHO in a licensed facility, which then led into, you know, a lot more of the headier side of it, which is Thank you so much for joining us.

46:53SpeakerThank you so much for joining us.

47:24BubblemanLet's hear from Stuart.

47:26SpeakerHey, can you guys hear me this time?

47:28BubblemanYes, sir.

47:29SpeakerHey, how's it going? Thanks again, Marcus, for having me. And yeah, it's an honor to be on this podcast and represent Colorado with everybody here. So yeah, I'm born and raised up here in the mountains and outside of Boulder. Um, and, you know, been, uh, involved since around like 2005, um, with cannabis and growing and kind of a grow community up here. So, um, you know, for, for many years, uh, you know, the best time, um, that I saw in Colorado as far as diversity and quality was you know from the mid 2000 like 2005 to you know about 2013 is like when I saw things really drop off um you know and a lot of that obviously was you know everybody rushed and came here uh during legalization it really blew up with that before it would It worked out great for the first few years because you had so many growers around Colorado.

48:28SpeakerUp in the mountains here is probably one out of every three houses was a grow house. And there was a ton of, you know, everybody had like a couple of lights and everybody was growing different varieties. Everybody was popping. You know, seeds and had all these unique cuts. You know, there was Fletcher from Archive was sending, you know, cuts to like Scott Reach and Ward.

48:56SpeakerG cuttings and, you know, a ton of stuff came through that way through the forum. So it's just a really exciting time for cannabis and for for growing up here, especially in the mountains. I didn't really have to go. You know, we used to be able to go down to Denver and sell straight to the clubs just like you could in California. And this is all pre-amendment 64.

49:21SpeakerAnd you could like, you know, at the clubs in Denver and, you know, you would have menus that would be 100 different varieties that are all small, you know, grown in this like very craft mindset, small batch. And so I think that created an environment that, you know, we came from a very unique place in Colorado just with how many growers. But then, naturally, it became very competitive.

49:47SpeakerThe prices went down, you know, and then everybody shifted. Everybody threw out their genetics that didn't yield three a light. They didn't. You know, or didn't, you know, weren't finished in eight weeks or, you know, didn't test above 25, 30 percent. And then everybody started machine trimming. It got so far away from craft because, again, to exist in this market, you had to just, you know, meet the demands of, you know, the lowering price point, you know, and we relied on brokers for many years.

50:21SpeakerAnd then that kind of dropped out. I went to Oregon in 2018. I was doing a lot of consulting and started a brand out there because things just got very bad here in Colorado. And we'd been doing BHO and everything before that. And that's definitely what was predominantly here in Colorado. And when I went to Oregon, I saw a bit more of the craft. You know, seeing and people doing, you know, their own thing and doing, you know, starting a brand for their own, like, small farm.

50:56SpeakerAnd that wasn't really a big thing in Colorado. We were, you know, kind of. Always avidly kind of against that old school, you know, concept as far as, you know, not putting our stuff in with a label on it or anything because we didn't want it, you know, that sort of attention. But that we saw the value. There's a few people and then Thank you for joining us today.

51:48SpeakerDon't want to just low ball us for being like an isolated gate kept grower. So, yes, it's changed quite a bit, you know, in Colorado, you know, and now cash really gives us an opportunity to value, you know, quality and to value, you know, the six star. And it's not just about dumpers. A lot of people chase like, you know, these ride. There's a lot of false flags with that, with hash as well to circle back to where, you know, the six star thing.

52:18SpeakerAnd, you know, that's where we try to just focus on the grease. And, you know, I try to find the best hash possible, not just chase whatever, you know, pop around unique genetics, you know, and thank God for the current state of at least hash that we have that ability as a farmer to be able to be incentivized to grow and to, you know, explore the diversity of cannabis, you know, hashes and amazing, you know, means to do that.

52:48SpeakerSo just grateful to be able to, you know, keep growing and, you know, Yeah, it's an exciting time for Colorado. So, yeah, so long winded.

52:59Collin PalmerNo, it's really cool because like what I was going to kind of say in the middle of what you're thinking as you're talking, like these are what I hear is like a common theme and a common thread across the whole, perhaps the whole world. Where we all come in with this spark of excitement, this personal passion, this personal drive, this thing that we all want to accomplish because we're so influenced by one another, which is awesome.

53:23Collin PalmerAnd so it was so incredible that we get to do that. And then regulation comes through. Right. And we're all like, ah, it's regulatory thing, you know, and passion and regulatory. You know, it's a tough it's like a circle into a square. You know, you're trying to get all these things that you want. And it's difficult, you know, to your point of everyone's point. You know, I think Kyle said it well in Portal Provisions.

53:48Collin PalmerHe said it amazing too. And I remember Adam Dunn talking to me about this when I was talking to him in even 2018 about Colorado. He's like, man, you know, I really wish there was more social consumption and it could drive more of a community-based approach. And, you know, Thank you so much for joining us.

54:24Collin PalmerIt's a mess, right? But what brings clarity to it, I think, is the passion, right? And the drive to go and hunt specific genetics and say, I'm going to go after a good resin and I'm going to stick to my passion. So I think it's amazing that it's coming back around for all of you guys in Colorado specifically, but I think everyone fights this fight, you know, of passion versus regulatory versus how to make a living off of this.

54:55Collin PalmerRight. You know, and that blend is a lot easier said than done. You know, I think all of us here understand that intimately. That's why we're all here. But it's I think I keep going back to this idea of passion keeps keeps us all here. And I think that's what's going to drive us into the next variation of what, you know, Whatever market you might be in, whether it's Colorado or not.

55:18Collin PalmerBut I think it's awesome that you guys are finding that sensibility of passion again and you're looking to reignite that again. Because I heard all this amazing stuff that you just said that I wholeheartedly relate to. And I'm sure other listeners out there relate to the excitement you get when you go to a session and you see someone's jar that you haven't seen in a flavor profile or whatever.

55:43Collin PalmerYou know, even the way it looks like it, you know, all of it. It's how amazing is that, you know? So I think it's a very special thing that you guys get to do and kind of hold that torch again. So are you guys planning events? I guess my question for you is, are you guys planning events? And like, what does that look like for you guys?

56:01SpeakerYeah. Do you want me to jump into it, Marcus? Or do you want to hear from some other people regarding this subject before we do that?

56:07BubblemanYeah, I'd like to hear from Terps Over Yields as well. And then I want to and then I want to before we go into that as well, I want to hear from Kay in regards to like what monumental mountain they had to climb in order to create and hold a relationship with so many incredible growers. Or maybe you guys are the incredible growers, but I want to hear from him as well and then we'll get into it.

56:37K InhouseYeah, for sure. Um, I think that, uh, I think the biggest thing is to add to your point, Colin, what's going on, man. I remember seeing you about a year ago. I was on hash church on the solvent list episode. So really good to see your face again, man. I hope you guys are crushing it out there in the Northeast, um, props to you guys. But I think right now, man, and with, with Colorado and the market here, um, even on the traditional side, um, I think that there's a reluctancy to Fino hunt.

57:02K InhouseI think that people aren't willing to go and hunt these genetics that are exclusive, that they could actually build an identity with their own brand around that genetic. People are a little bit less inclined to do that because it's expensive. You're giving up production space for a potential one percenter. And you have to be willing to take that loss

57:26K InhouseThank you for joining us today.

57:47K InhouseThank you for joining us today.

58:13K InhouseSo the way our business model works here in Colorado, when we release product to 220 plus retail stores that we partner with across the state from Grand Junction to Kansas and Nebraska, what we have to do is we have to find really unique flavor profiles and keep them rotating and drop once a month. So we drop every three weeks, but we're also pheno hunting in every single one of those rounds.

58:38K InhouseWe've dedicated an entire, out of maybe seven rolling benches, we've dedicated an entire table just to phenohunt, just to pop some seeds from unique breeders and just to try to find that unique terp. So we're working with like obviously bloom seed, so we run a bunch of bloom genetics and We started popping a bunch of tarp fountain genetics, fruitful seeds. There's a lot of breeders that we're starting to work with because we're starting to make a name for ourselves here in this state.

59:09K InhouseTo Marcus's point, we've had to battle a lot of obstacles just in terms of finding those unique genetics. Getting to the point where you can earn enough money off of these drops to give the people what they want. So that's what I'm kind of getting at with to add to Stuart's point of view is that it's all about price point really. So, you know, if your price point is, you know, your zip jars or your pound jar or unit jars are going to be higher.

59:37K InhouseYou're going to want to go and hunt that unique turf profile because you now have the leeway to do so. You know, bills are due every 30 days, whether it's traditional or on the rec market. And so that number dictates how you can actually operate besides the passion side of it. I think the passion kind of emphasizes your why you want to do it. Like, what's the point of you just like pumping out the same flavors over and over and over again?

1:00:05K InhouseTo me, that gets kind of mundane as a grower, as a washer. I like to see different yielders. I like to see different colors in my resins. I love how a trop cookie, some people don't like a trop cookies, but it has a purple undertone. But then you could also have a black maple 22 breeder cut that has like probably like the most like pearlescent white resin that I've seen in a long time besides a sour diesel IBL.

1:00:29K InhouseAnd so what's cool for us is that we've had to grow this organically. You know, we're a legal company here in Colorado that doesn't have traditional advertising. We've kind of had to build the word of mouth kind of way of going about it, doing events, being a part of the community like Kyle was saying. And so the problem is that comes at a risk. You know, there was an event that was supposed to be today that a lot of legal companies had to pull out of due to a regulatory issue.

1:00:59K InhouseDue to the fact that there's some events, well, you know, some of the people that put on these events, they're kind of like club promoters. They're kind of like people who are trying to charge a fee and earn a living off of bringing business to a certain venue. And so sometimes the regulatory stuff gets in the way. And one of those things that's got in the way was the fact that if you have a discrepancy between VIP tickets and general admission tickets for your event, and then let's say you have a VIP gift bag, when you buy a VIP gift bag, Well, let's say that person when you buy that ticket, you get the VIP gift bag.

1:01:34K InhouseWell, now you're essentially distributing cannabis products at an unlicensed venue. So that causes problems for people. It causes fear for the community. There's less influencers that want to get involved. Which I think is a detriment to this community. I think I personally think that we need to find a balance between the two and we still haven't found it yet. We're still having to do events around the city, around the state, but we're very selective on what we do.

1:02:03K InhouseAnd the only reason why we're selective is because of these regulatory issues. We've worked our asses off to get our license. And so we don't want to be vulnerable and risk anything. So otherwise, like, why would you even get the license in the first place if you're not going to adhere to their regulatory issues? So there's just a lot of factors that have gone into the obstacles that we've had to oversee.

1:02:25K InhouseAnother thing is that, you know, as a wholesale solventless rosin company here in Colorado, we're at the mercy of retail dispensaries. And so sometimes Thank you so much for joining us.

1:03:05K InhouseSo like that is a that's an anomaly in this market but it's it uh we we have to pay an homage to the breeders we have to pay an homage to the terps that we're hunting that we're getting from these people because we kick it back as well it's not like we're just hunting this and keeping it for ourselves if we find something There's a respect and there's a credit that is due to the person that kind of created that genetic.

1:03:29K InhouseYou know, we work with Bloom. He created Trop Cookies, Dulce de Uva, Black Maple, Straw Guava. Like these are really heavy hitters in the hash game about 10 years ago. And so 10 years ago, it was cool to run those strains and we had to run the Dulce de Uvas and the Straw Guavas because they're hitting the 5-6% to make it economical for you. So that's just like a long-winded way of saying like if you're not pheno hunting out here, if you're not trying to find a unique tart profile, like if you look on that menu that's behind me, that's like 10 different flavors of Thank you so much for joining us today.

1:04:27K InhouseThat has hit 16.07% terps. The last one that hit the record for us was Blue Zushi. Ironically for Colin, you said that you guys had to run it into gummies. Our Blue Zushi hit the highest.

1:04:38Collin PalmerWe got the 10-10 cut, which I'm not a huge fan of, which is the... The no 1010 cut is not the one. Yeah.

1:04:47K InhouseSo, so we got our Jeanette. So, so our blue sushi cut hit 13.7% tarps. And we thought that was dope. We thought that was super high. Um, the one before that was modified grapes by symbiotic genetics. And so, you know, now we have found the bliss black maple trout cookie 78 that hits 16%. Well, now you have a heavy hitter that you can like create an identity around.

1:05:08K InhouseYou can start to market that high terpene percentage. But if you're not hunting and you're not trying to find that, dude, you're not going to be able to keep up, especially even on the traditional market. You know, portal provisions, you've done a fantastic job by winning or placing really well in these competitions. I'm sure that's gotten you a higher ticket price on some of your jars.

1:05:33SpeakerUm, yes, it, it has, I mean, mostly it has helped like cement and justify the position that I put the jars in on the market, um, which it depends on, like, like to me, I think there's, what do I want to say about this? I think competitions are important. And I think it goes back to maybe like Marcus's original question at the beginning of the stream, which is like, how do you know, like, how do you discern what quality is?

1:06:11SpeakerAnd I think that You know, for the most part, like when you talk to anybody in this industry, like I used to call it master grower syndrome. So like everybody's like, yeah, my weeds fire. I grow the best weed ever. Check out my selection of this strain. It's the best strain ever of all time. And so like, how do you find out like what's actually good? Well, You know, people argue about a lot of competition formats, but like you can go sit down.

1:06:40SpeakerThere's places around the country all year long that you can go sit down with all of the people that think that they have a shot at being the best in the country and you can smoke it all and you can find out or you could sample things from all over the place and like really find out about it. And what happens in any market is you hear about this brand or that brand and like their price point is higher than the average and is it good or not and and some people like you know they'll buy one of those jars and find for them that at the price point they paid it's not really that good that's we call that hype right like really hype things that just aren't good and then there's the

1:07:31SpeakerLike there's other brands that you can get any jar on the menu at any given time and you're gonna get a great jar that is worth that price or exceeds the competition at that price point. And so like for me, like you referenced like competitions, like I have, I've placed top three in a handful of them for sure, but mostly I'm really consistent in the top 10, like almost every time.

1:08:00SpeakerAnd I enter jars that are usually like set, like there's like people have comp spec jars, they'll call it like where they pull out all the stops, right? It's only 90 to 120 and it's processed a special way that they don't normally do because it doesn't get the best yield and this that and the other thing and like I just enter the jars that I make that are available to people like it's still 73 to 159 they're very very very similar like it might be like just the first two pulls instead of all three but it's really really close representation and so like You can do that by having really unique things.

1:08:40SpeakerLike the first time I did that at Ego Clash, I had this selection of Sugar Shack from my friend, the Cab Lab on Instagram. And that did really, really well, you know, but the thing that I've actually placed top three, like gotten trophies for the most is actually Black Maple, which most people are like, oh, that's, you know, old or played out or whatever, just like a lot of great strains over the years.

1:09:04SpeakerAnd so I think that like, You can approach it from a lot of different ways, but for me, the competitions have always been like a thing that I'm doing it to go see where I stand among my peers and to experience the jars that are available and on the market because I'm much more deeply interested in that aspect of like what is good, what is quality, what is good, like what are the new flavors, where are people going, what do I want to hunt next?

1:09:40SpeakerMore so than that I'm concerned about like raising my jar price but I think that depending on which section of the market you're serving like yes going to your local or national competition and putting something you're proud of in there and doing well like anything and especially like nationally to me like if you're getting in the top 10 like that's Really good. Like there's usually anywhere from 30 to 60 people coming from all over the country to put up their best.

1:10:15SpeakerAnd if you can have all of the people that make these products agree that you're one of the best to do it, yeah, that's good for your brand for sure. Like it makes, you know, conversations easier for sure.

1:10:33K InhouseYeah, for sure. So like, because like for us, like right now, like what goes in like our 90 jars. So for when we run a 90, we run a two tier system. So it's just tier one 90U and then tier two full spectrum. So for our 90U, you know, we've gotten to the point where it's like, how do you put out the best quality you can? How do you put out the best quality 90 jar you can, but also the best quality full spec jar you can?

1:11:00K InhouseThe issue with the legal market I find here in Colorado is that if you only have a 90U tier, if you only have your top tier highest quality jar, usually that's going to be a little bit more expensive for an average customer to come and buy that jar. So what happens is, is that it kind of removes you from having access to that potential customer. So what we decided to do was we launched a full spectrum line.

1:11:25K InhouseSo our full spectrum line is 25 to 219U. It is a true full spec. It's got 90 in it. And so we wanted to put out the best full spec resin profile we could just to give people a little bit better access to our brand because otherwise you're kind of pricing yourself out. So what we found was that it actually has booms. So for when we have for our like when we track our order cadences and our SKU cadences, we saw that 90U was moving very, very fast.

1:11:58K InhouseHowever, what has now happened is that the full spectrum has now taken over in terms of revenue just because it has allowed us to get into more retail locations. So whenever a purchasing manager comes to buy a jar from you, they have a little bit better margin room. So where they can charge a good ticket, but still give person a high quality resin. So what we have to do is just kind of put them on the filtering system is what we call it.

1:12:27K InhouseIt's almost like a sales funnel. How do you convert a pre-roll? You know, what can I get the cheapest pre-roll you got on your shelf smoker? How do you convert them to a high end rosin smoker? You know, a lot of times they don't have all the knickknacks. They don't have The dabbers or the quartz banger or the rig. So that's where Puffco comes in. So we're a Puffco affiliated hash company.

1:12:49K InhouseSo that has helped tremendously. So what we've had to also do is, is we had to also launch, you know, we have an AIO skew, the one that's like right here in this, I'm trying to point to it. The one that's like right here in this background, we have the AIO skew. So we do a half gram cartridge. And so when we release a drop of 90U and full spectrum, We also release an AIO of those same flavors.

1:13:13K InhouseSo what happens is that that's full spectrum rosin, that 25 to 219U that goes in these white jars right here. The same rosin that goes in this white jar also goes into this pen. So you're putting a really high, like what we talked about earlier, you're putting a very high quality input into the cartridge to give somebody a better experience. And so now, you know, they're going to be like, oh shit, I love this pen.

1:13:40K InhouseLet me try their actual dabables out of a Puffco. So let me try their full spec. Then they try the full spec and they're like, wow, there's 90U in it. They have a tier one that's just 90U separated. We only put first pull 90 in this jar. And so it's the best of our resin that we can put out that goes in the jars. And I think that's what's created a lot of traction and traffic for us is because people are receptive to the fact that, you know, in-house is now a brand that's associated with quality.

1:14:09K InhouseAnd we're not just cut the Costco of rosin trying to pump shit out. We're really trying to find those unique flavors. We just did a whole drop of random phenols. Dude, I've had a, I had a Rambutan 126 Fino that we washed like two weeks ago. It hit less than 1%, you know, but we don't, we couldn't put that on the menu because it just, you know, it doesn't yield enough.

1:14:29K InhouseHowever, we want to go through the motions to see it was the loudest terp in the entire room. Our growth team was so fired up about it. And then we put it in the Osprey and it doesn't yield shit. And you're like, well, now what do you do? So I think you have to go through those losses. You have to go through those shitty yielders, unfortunately. But you're going to find a keeper.

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1:15:17K InhouseUnless you're trying to get to that point with the passion to find the unique flavor, I don't see hash making as a feasible thing because you're competing with so many different flavor profiles, so many different breeders in this world. I mean, you guys saw all the, you know, the toad venom stuff. So like, you know, people, you know, people are going to roast your ass if you're putting out boof and trying to wrap it in gold wrapping paper.

1:15:43K InhouseAnd that's just how it is, even on the rec market here. So we lead with quality. We try to at least. And I think that's why we've gotten to this point. You know, we launched, you know, in May, it'll be two years. We've been on the rec market for two years and we've grown this organization to well over 220 stores across the state. So that's an anomaly.

1:16:03K InhouseBut I think because we've led with the quality and the unique flavors and like we've also done it right. I think that like the passion is there and people can see that, you know, I'm a founder of a company, but I smoke this shit. People want to see that if they don't want somebody to just throw money at a hash company and remove the passion for why people do this in the first place.

1:16:26SpeakerKay, you said a lot of interesting things, man. I want to follow up on a lot of them. But what you just said is exactly what happened with peer pressure, right? And then going under, basically. And if you're somebody who's in hash and you're in this industry and you don't smoke, get the fuck out. That's that's my and I stand on that. And I've always stood on that.

1:16:46SpeakerAnd I've dealt with a lot of people that have, you know, been been in and out of the industry. Oh, the rec market is here. And, you know, but we don't consume at all. And I don't I don't work with people like that. So I just wanted to add that. But I have more to add after we hear from some other people.

1:17:02K InhouseYeah, for sure. I completely agree, Kyle. And I think also one of the reasons why we even got on the rec market to begin with was, you know, we come from the traditional side. So like we saw like there was like people were saying that rec cash isn't good or it's like not as good as the traditional market. And we wanted to kind of like change that, you know, we wanted to be a part of that.

1:17:22K InhouseBut, you know, you got to put your money where your mouth is sometimes and go for it. And for us, it's worked out. For some, it hasn't, unfortunately. So, Yeah, I think it's just the perseverance side of things is really big.

1:17:34Collin PalmerWell, scaling too. You guys have a, you know, look, the decisions, right? This idea of decisions and what the things you embody and, you know, what you're marketing is not stuff, it's values, right? People get this misconstrued. Marketing is values, right? And when you are about it and you can stand on that, I mean, that's real. That is as real as there are companies that spend millions and trillions of dollars trying to get that ad campaign done.

1:18:06Collin PalmerAnd you just live it.

1:18:08SpeakerYeah, you have to live it, though. You have to have a pulse in the market. You know, I see some people in the chat, you know, saying they don't mind if people don't smoke. I don't really either. I only mind if people are pioneering a company and claiming they have the best rosin and, you know, trying to talk about it and they and they don't smoke. It's yeah, it makes no sense.

1:18:26Collin PalmerYou know, and shout out to peer pressure, you know, Ben Britton and that whole crew. I mean. I think all of us here, it sounds on this panel have been touched by that engineering and the ability to be able to touch more people as a result. It's really, it was really unique. And now there's a million awesome companies have spawned, you know, since then.

1:18:46BubblemanBut yeah, my, my peer pressure video is almost that 5 million views on YouTube right now. Just, just from like pressing flour, bro. I just pressed flour.

1:18:58Collin PalmerThat's like, yo, but that's, that's, That's so important. You know what I mean? Like, let's be real that you doing that and showing the world what that looks like and how to do that. I mean, man, it's like, you know, I'm really proud to be a friend of yours because you're able to, you know, live through your passion, man. That's that's everything. That is what. I think 98% of people in this world yearn for.

1:19:26Collin PalmerAnd Marcus, you've been able to, not only through that, but think about the amount of people you've touched through the ability to sell those bags. That's... I'm giving Marcus's flowers right now, everybody.

1:19:41BubblemanA few, a few.

1:19:43Collin PalmerJust a couple, just a little couple bouquets here.

1:19:45Etienne FontanGood to play your part. Appreciate the kind words.

1:19:48BubblemanI want to hear from Terps over Yields back from when Stuart was going deep on just the truth of the scene and how it was and how it is and the transition between those two things. Yeah.

1:20:04SpeakerSo yeah, Stuart's really been in the game for much longer than me. I'm a little on the younger side. I've been in Colorado for like five years, but I guess I could say now I've had like a good grip on the market and what's been going on. And I've learned a lot from Stuart and like Nooch and Portal Provisions. But yeah, I mean, it's... And I agree with Kay from in-house what he said about feno hunting and doing all these things like entering competitions.

1:20:30SpeakerIt's a very big deal. And I think if you're passionate and you want to get yourself out there, this is what you have to do. You have to stay feno hunting, or in my opinion, you're kind of fucking up. Because with the access of the internet and these clone banks and all these things, everyone's growing the same shit. So if you're not feno hunting, You know, it's, you know, you're not going to find anything good.

1:20:55SpeakerYou're just going to be right on the market with everyone else. That's just my opinion. But, you know, there are some people that, you know, can do their thing and grow these strains that are kind of, you know, popular and make it their thing. But, yeah, man, just entering comps and pheno hunting, you know, There's so many ways to do it. Yeah, I kind of lost track of your question, honestly.

1:21:24K InhouseYeah, well, to add to your point, man, it's like even if you're not pheno hunting, you still have to look be hunting for a cut. You know, you don't have to necessarily be popping seeds and dedicating production space to that. Like for us, like we even had to go to the traditional side right here. This is Watermelon Laters by Omakase Farms, and they're local out here. And so, you know, they have an amazing, amazing turf profile that we saw that was unique that we could bring to the legal market.

1:21:51K InhouseAnd it's just been tremendous. You know, we've even run too much watermelon. So we mix too much lime with watermelon laters. So unless you're trying to like do that, you're setting yourself back a little bit because then you're competing with, you know, some really, really top quality hash makers in here in Colorado. And I agree. I think that Colorado with what we were saying about we need kind of a competition out here in Colorado is that, you know, we need to be able to have people that put their jars to the test.

1:22:21K InhouseLike the last one that I could think of that was like really credible was when we launched our own brand here. Puffco did a jar check. They said, you know, shout out to Puffco, you know, anybody on rec med or traditional market, pull up with your jar and let's put it to the test. And so I think it's stuff like that to where people aren't afraid to bring their material because they could get in trouble.

1:22:44K InhouseI think that fear needs to be removed in order for us to have like a true like organic and humble, humble community. Yeah, I agree, man. Yeah. And like, that's coming from us who like, you know, last year, we were the only legal rosin company to get invited to ego clash. So like, it's even causing some of the legal companies to not want to participate in competitions and stuff like that.

1:23:13K InhouseSo I think there's a lot of like, we touched base on a lot of really good points. But at the end of the day, like, if your why isn't big enough on why you're growing this plant, Why are you trying to give it the best life it possibly can if you're not trying to cultivate that? It's going to be really tough because you're just going to give up when it gets hard and you're not able to move your jars or your AC goes out or they shut your power off like they did for 45 days for us back in the day.

1:23:42K InhouseIf you just give up, it's not going to work, man.

1:23:48BubblemanGot to persevere. Go figure. Well, I'm stoked to be in the in the Colorado market. We're definitely not in 200 stores yet, but I think we're in about 120 or 130. Nice.

1:24:01K InhouseAnd that's that's tremendous, dude.

1:24:06BubblemanYeah. Well, we got a really great sales guy and he was in the market like for the many, many years selling all in one live hash rods and all in ones. And he really helped that company, you know, And so it's, I think it's advantageous to have someone like that with you. But I also, yeah, I have a unique situation too, in the sense that

1:24:41BubblemanI turned so many people on to making hash and sold them the bags, which kind of created this whole like phenotyping for washing thing. And so now I just have this incredible connection to all these hash makers I don't even know that I know. You know, like, geez, how did I bump into you, Stuart? Where was that? That was at an ego clash, wasn't it?

1:25:08SpeakerYeah, we met in Barcelona. And this last year, probably about a year ago now.

1:25:13BubblemanDude, it was both. It was both. It was an ego clash. And I was doing jar check with Jolly Roger in the little building in the back. So that is a trip. Yeah, that was a great place to meet you, dude. Out of all the people there.

1:25:29SpeakerNo, I mean, that's what's so amazing about this plant, man. It brings people from all over together. That's, uh, You know, and again, hash is an amazing vessel for that. You know, again, it's re driven me like, you know, as a grower, it's like, it's again, to go back to just maintaining passion. You know, it's, if you're just growing year after year, the same things and you're growing for it's, it's like, that's not why I got into this.

1:25:58SpeakerI love the diversity of cannabis. There's so much more to explore. As far as the genome and with hash, I mean, we've just scratched the surface. I mean, what's been done in the past four or five years as far as phenotyping and finding all these flavor profiles that, you know, are both viable for the process and just, you know, really kind of covering the full spectrum of, you know, it's really come a long way.

1:26:25SpeakerBut yeah, it's a It's brought a lot of people together, man. It was cool to meet you out there. And then we have mutual friends, Ted. And, you know, it's that's one of my favorite aspects is the community. And in Colorado, we've really been building that bridging. It's been good to see, like, everybody come together, both, you know, like the Denver Hashmakers and people like me and Jack are up in the mountains and, you know, with the legal side.

1:26:53SpeakerYou know, in the end of the day, we're all really fighting for the same thing. So that's to try to bring the best hash, you know, possible and with good integrity to the people. So it's been good to see.

1:27:07BubblemanI love it. The best hash with integrity to the people, you know. It is funny though, because the market, as you go into the highest caliber of things, the market becomes so much smaller compared to as you, well, like Kay even mentioned, oh, we just did a full spectrum hash, still super nice, but now it's outdoing the 90U. It's like, yeah, and if you did a traditional hash, it would outdo both of them because there's just this group of people The amount of people that smoke traditional hash, that's kind of one of the pathways I've taken is can I create hash that is...

1:27:53BubblemanThe highest quality it can be for the hash that it is. So try to imagine getting out of a 70 or a 60 or even a 50% and going down into a 40 and a 30, you know, or a 30 to 50, if you will. A substantially different product But a product nonetheless that, you know, people love and appreciate and desire and want. And so traditional hash, as much as we're definitely, you know, wanting to produce podium products, and we have already created some really great partners in Colorado who grow incredible flower, really for, you know, fresh frozen to be turned into it to be washed.

1:28:47BubblemanWhich is great. We've had some melt on the market through my partner, Daniel, at 1.11. And that's also been awesome. But the traditional hash is extremely like desired. People really love that shit. And if you can create something unique as well, which is like, you know, something like where you have like a black, a blonde, and a red, right? You know, like that, that kind of thing, which is also just paying homage to the traditional processes That of course, you know, the greedy got their hands on and figured out ways to cut and dilute and create, you know, bad names for that hash.

1:29:39BubblemanWhen really, when that hash is in pure form, any smoker, if given it in the right, through the right tool, through the right pipe for the right moment, whether that's a hubbly bubbly or a sorry or whatever kind of pipe, It's also a special experience, you know, I'm not talking about shitty, nasty ass traditional hash that's been cut and it burns your throat, but just a really nice, you know, maybe 35 to 40% THC hash, really something, something like this.

1:30:14BubblemanThis one is, is probably just under 40%. It's very soft.

1:30:22BubblemanJust a traditional hash. This is going on eight months of curing. And so I probably end up rolling it into a ball again. I've shown it many times on Hash Church over the course of the last eight months, and I have not cut into it or broken into it because that's one of the unique things that traditional hash does that...

1:30:48BubblemanHigh-end rosins, high-end sifts, high-end wet wash, bubbles, right? Full melt, six stars. They don't always age better. In fact, they very rarely do.

1:31:07BubblemanBut traditional hash does. There's really something to be said for pressing and coagulating the heads, creating that skin on the outside. And when it has more plant matter in it, if you will, more contaminant, it's just the chemistry that occurs in there is so much different than when it's extremely high caliber. That and the fact that You know, the nostalgic box that gets checked for people that are traditional hash smokers, and there's millions of them.

1:31:39BubblemanThey're not, they don't, they're not smoking like 65, 70%. Like that's not what they were. That's not what they, that's not what most of them want. You know, they want something that's much more, you know, allows you to continue on with your day and not be, you know, completely devastated by taking a rocket ship to the moon, which don't get me wrong. I love rocket ships to the moon personally.

1:32:07BubblemanI love them when they're super tasty. Those are kind of my favorite ones. And I'm also, just on a side note, digging the image that Skully has been drawing this whole time. It's been pretty good, dude. Like I was like, oh, is that a plant? And oh, he's got someone washing. I think I see the freeze dryer trays. It's super cool to see it come together over the conversation of what we've been sort of having.

1:32:32BubblemanAnd I like the conversation as well between the differences between the regulated and the unregulated or however you guys call them. I'm not trying to insult any markets. The two sides of the market, one that requires a license, I guess, more than the other one, I'm not sure. Thank you for joining us.

1:33:08Bubblemanfor the longest time you could only purchase 10 milligrams in a single package now they do 10 packages of 10 milligrams so you can actually buy 100 milligrams but for someone that eats 100 milligrams at a pop to go in and buy these huge bags with all put into package of 10 milligrams like you can see it doesn't make sense like people want to be able to buy 20 and 30 and 40 and 50 milligram gummies and even 100 milligram gummies if if they so want and Because that doesn't exist, then of course someone's going to make that available, as they should, because...

1:33:43BubblemanYeah, we're fighting for access. For me, I've always fought for access more than for a particular way of access. So I never shame anyone in regards to whatever market they're in. They obviously all exist for a reason because there's a desire. And when there's a desire, all you have to do is fill said desire. And I would suspect it's a unique group of people who... focus on purchasing heady jars on the bi-weekly you know regular if you will that's going to you know i'm sure some people buy baller jars every you know a couple of times a week and i'm sure the people that you i i will remember back in the day when i was you know slang and herbs how awesome it was That you got to have this sort of like conversation and relationship with these, all these different people that relied on you for your choice, you know, for the choice that you, which is really what we're talking about, a curated item of SKUs available to a specific customer base in a specific place.

1:34:56BubblemanYou know, we're going to go out of our way, grow incredible canvas. We're going to phenotype. We're going to find all these different things. Maybe, You know, one of the things my brand has considered is, you know, getting a breeder to, you know, we were talking to Chimera a little bit, which I think he would be amazing to, you know, breed some things that don't really exist in the market that are just like somewhat different, you know, like Kay was saying, like produce something that's, you know, outside the ordinary.

1:35:25BubblemanIf The more we go down the rabbit hole of this quality, the more that people plant more seeds, the merrier. Sam was always, you know, when he wanted to do breeding, not necessarily phenotyping, but breeding, he would plant like 50 to 100,000 seeds, which is just absolutely incredible when you think of the scale of walking through that whole field and like picking your four or five or six plants that you're going to breed with.

1:35:54BubblemanI always dreamed of doing that with him in Jamaica. He had 100,000 haze crossed with haze seeds. And I thought, oh my God, in a perfect utopian world, We would set up a, you know, a lab where we could literally, you know, sequence every plant in the field, you know, take their... aggregate all that data through AI or whatever. Have Sam pick his five or six and then, you know, sell the Willy Wonka tickets for other breeders to come in and pick like three or four or five cuts from this hundred thousand seed population that, uh, You just feel terrible if it went only to the six plants that Sam chose.

1:36:40BubblemanI just would be like, oh man, we got to give this opportunity to more people. I'm a huge fan of the haze. I didn't see a ton of it while I was in Colorado. A lot of tasty flavors there. A lot of gas and candy and goodness. I didn't see as many hazes. Maybe we'll focus on that next time. Someone had haze though. Who had haze? Was it you, Jack?

1:37:06SpeakerNo, I think you're thinking of stew. The cherry, maybe it was the cherry cowboy.

1:37:10BubblemanThe cherry cowboy. Yeah, that was the haziest one. That's right. That's right. We were at Kyle's dabbing that out.

1:37:19SpeakerYeah, I remember that jar specifically because I'm a haze guy myself and nobody here will take their plants long enough to want to grow a haze, especially in a licensed facility. Most people are, you know, of the mindset of I need five to six harvests a year, you know, out of, let's just say, you know, one big room. And they're not going to run, you know, hazes the amount of time that they need to properly go.

1:37:41SpeakerIt's one of those anomalies where you can actually get more on this market here for properly done sativas or hazes that are taken longer and properly done than just like the normal, you know, run of the mill stuff like Black Maple, Super Booth, you know, all the Z Crosses. And a lot of the people are flavor chasers and don't really like that racy high. So I prefer it myself.

1:38:08BubblemanThen we must do it for ourselves.

1:38:11Collin PalmerWe have to, but I will tell you out in New York, we had a strawberry sour piff that went to market and it was the first thing to sell out. Like within hours, it was gone.

1:38:22BubblemanWell, New York's a little bit of a mature haze market.

1:38:26Collin PalmerIt's true. We are. Yeah. And they want no jacked herbs at all. You know, so.

1:38:35SpeakerWhich is a fine line, right? Because I love the Jack Terps. Like the terpenylene side of it is something I'm just a sucker for. But then there's people that want more of like that, the Cuban Black Haze or some of the more... Exactly. So they don't want that terpenylene. Jackie.

1:38:53BubblemanDude, I want it all. I'm not fussy. I'll take it all. Just line it up. There we go. We'll hit it one by one. I wish I had more haze. Oh, I might have a tiny little bit left here of the Band-Aid haze.

1:39:10SpeakerHow is that one? That's one I've always wanted to try. I don't think I've ever had straight Band-Aid.

1:39:16BubblemanI liked it, but the guy who sent it also sent me one of Tom Hill's cuts, and I don't know. It wasn't really exactly his X or double X or triple X. But it was, you know, the closest thing he could find in Canada where someone could just send me a cut legally and a little bag of weed. And so it was much more favorite, more of that cat pissy haze, just real rank, like, you know, and, and, but yet in the air, extremely perfumey.

1:39:54BubblemanA really nice perfume flavor, which I've always loved about the haze. I've always loved a joint that if you lit in a room full of people at a loud stuffy, like, you know, at like a Medesky Martin and Wood show or something, you light that thing up and all the people, and there might only be three or four or five of them, but all of them, every one of them that's in that room that loves haze will come find you with their nose and be like, hey, that's a, That's a nice one, eh?

1:40:24BubblemanIt's like, yeah, yeah, it is. Did you want to have a puff? I always, when I go to concerts, you know, I haven't in a long time because I didn't smoke joints. But back in the day, I would roll many joints and just give them to people. Mostly when I was a taper and I needed people who wouldn't stop talking to go on the other side of the venue, I would give them joints.

1:40:43BubblemanBut also just what a great thing to give people. I guess nowadays it's more sketchy because people make pre-rolled joints with floor sweepings, distillate and botanical turps and Thank you so much for joining us.

1:41:15SpeakerGhost Train Hayes is special. Very. That's Scott Reach, right? That's Rare Dankness, yeah. That's Scott Reach. That's Scott. I think that won one of the first Ego Clashes. And there's a really popular cut that was selected up in Seattle. I think it was like Goat Organics. But yeah, that's one that if you're looking for Hayes varieties that wash, obviously I I think it'd be pretty tough to find any of those seed stock.

1:41:45SpeakerI don't know if he still releases that, but that's a good place to look for haze turps that follow through and it's, you know, actually pretty good yield.

1:41:54BubblemanOh, and are actually like haze. Like when you, like the main thing I always love about haze is that it's so uplifting and just is like a shot of energy. And, uh, you know, some, some years back it, man, it might've been fantastic. 15 plus years back, I was at the Hotel Krasnopolsky in Amsterdam and it was late, like one in the morning or something. And Scott came by and he had this jar.

1:42:20BubblemanIt was, I don't, it was melt. I'm pretty, I'm 90% sure it was full melt and it was like, you know, 10 grams or more maybe. And he came by and I shit you not, we stayed up all night smoking that hash. Like even at the end when he left, he was like, I don't know why I thought that was a good idea. Coming here at one in the morning with a jar of hash that you just couldn't go to sleep on.

1:42:45BubblemanYou took one rip and then you got so energized and told the story and then you're like, oh man, that tasted so good. I'm going to have another one of those. Oh my God. One of my best experiences ever.

1:42:56SpeakerI see Dred in the chat too. He ran the stuff at House of Dankness for a long time. He's an OG. Yeah, he is. He remembers a lot of the times that we were talking about. I remember when Dave Malone was first getting Green Dot off the ground and Dave was running the garden and he was popping a bunch of Bodhi gear and he was taking plants that were just crazy, crazy unique cultivars and he was taking them like 120, 130 days.

1:43:21SpeakerAnd that was the time when nobody else was like, is like, you know, people were zigging and Dave was zagging. And then Viola came out, you know, Al Harrington. And the BHO side, there was a lot of people that were really doing this properly to begin with. And it's really nice to see it transfer over to Rosin and Hash. And it makes it even harder because You know, you're using mechanical separation versus liquefying tricheds, which the yields are totally different, right?

1:43:48SpeakerSo BHO dump all the time, whereas rosin, you'll have stuff that on BHO side will just, you know, just pump out weight. And then on the rosin side, you're, you know, half a percent and you're like, oh, shit. Well, what I have is absolute fire. But for market viability for a business, it just doesn't really make sense.

1:44:07BubblemanYeah, it hurts. Yeah, Dred just came in and gifted five memberships away as he does every week. He pops in and just gifts out the... But when you were talking about that, he said that that was the year they won Legends of Hash 2013.

1:44:19SpeakerYeah, Dred's an OG. Shout out to Dred. I know he's running a bunch of stuff now too that looks fire. I see it on his Facebook and Instagram. He's one of the best growers that is in the industry for sure.

1:44:34BubblemanSo that leads me into, A, what Kay was talking about earlier in regards to, you know, hash competitions, hash gatherings, Jolly Rogers jar check. I agree. It's exceptional. Like, I was so stoked on it. I even asked him, I was like, I don't know why I haven't been doing this, like, my whole, like, since I've been doing this, I should have been doing this jar check. But we definitely love the idea of, and this falls into Kyle's space in downtown Denver there, of doing obviously Legends of Hash, which would be probably an annual thing, but also doing And I don't want to by any means jump on Jolly Rogers and steal Jar Check as a name, but as a concept, as a gathering, as a sort of scouting for future Legends of Hash, being able to do maybe a monthly or bi-monthly or whatever Thank you so much for joining us.

1:45:56BubblemanYou know, which is really more than a competition. It's the celebration of, you know, hash legends like Skunk Man Sam now that he's passed on and many, many others and sort of paying homage to some of the traditional methods and of smoking hash like hubbly bubbly rips of like your full melt bubble and rosin mixed on top of a pile of, you know, a beautiful screen that allows it to just Take the most magnificent rip you've ever taken.

1:46:26BubblemanSo we do have, you know, some ideas in the queue for that. And obviously Kyle Space, the reserve is, I mean, it's fucking ridiculous, dude. For those of you that have been there, you know, but for those of you that don't, it is an absolute like behemoth in regards to the caliber. You feel like you're in a ski chalet. Like it's so fucking trippy and I'm excited that we're going to start, you know, making some shit happen there and create a space that can kind of hone in on some of this top tier, you know, hash and rosin making.

1:47:04BubblemanI mean, listen, for me, I love the, I love Full Melt Bubble. You know, do I love rosin? Absolutely. I think rosin's awesome. I think rosin should almost always be accompanied by the hash it was squished from. That would be amazing. I would love to go to a store and buy the flower, the hash, and the rosin and see. Because for the most part, I think when hash has been grown exceptionally well, That is one of the highest calibers of product that you can get.

1:47:37BubblemanWhether you washed it or whether you mechanically screened it off, you could run it through a press and get like a 96% yield and reduce it by four more percent. And you could argue that it would be better. But when I get a 96% melter, I just, that is, that's the holy grail for me. What about you guys? I'd love to hear what your holy grails are in regards to... Marcus, I...

1:48:06SpeakerI did that already and everyone is going to start doing it. So you touched on something that I thought of like probably a year and a half ago. So I created the duality box and the trilogy box. The duality box is the flower and the rosin side by side and the trilogy box is the flower, the melt and the rosin side by side. So like having all three in a representation I think is key and it's kind of what we're doing with the space too where we're Highlighting the top tier of everything in hash, but it also goes back to fire in, fire out, right?

1:48:40SpeakerYou want to be able to see the flower. So that's my two cents is always being able to see the start point, even the midpoint at the bubble, and then the endpoint at the rosin. It's really an experience.

1:48:52BubblemanYeah, it's awesome. The flight, if you will.

1:48:58BubblemanThe flight of resin. Correct. But what about you guys? I'd like to hear from people on the panel in regards to whether you prefer hash or rosin or whether you have kind of an affinity for both of them equal. And hash could be dry sifted, you know, static heads or wet washed, purified heads.

1:49:20Collin PalmerI'll just say blanket it like it's it's much like the orchestra. Sometimes certain varietals have better horn sections. So you're like, oh, I'm going to listen to that now a little bit more. And or there's a string section and it could be gas and fruit or whatever. It's just if the resin is really phenomenal, I'm going to gravitate towards that. And I love because I have a huge palate.

1:49:43Collin PalmerYou know, I'm one of these people that really there's very few profiles. I'm like, yeah. You know, to be honest with you. So I love everything for what it's worth. And I try to find that magic and whatever that that the best representation of the resin is.

1:50:01BubblemanOkay, so I'm a hash. Go ahead.

1:50:03Etienne FontanI'm a hash brute. I mix them all together. I like them all. So, you know, people are, I've always understood people in their camps, but I like to mix all my hash together. I like the full, full spectrum. I know that's, that's sacrilege and I'm, you know, Satanist probably to some people, but, you know, I've, you know, I get a little bit here, I get a little bit there, but when I mix it all together, I get everything I want in one beautiful thing.

1:50:28Etienne FontanAnd, and, Yeah, I have mixes. I have a water hash mix that I've been doing since 2008 in my BHO mix, which I finally added rosin to in 2017. I mean, that's been ongoing since 2012. So, you know, I just keep keeping a small autoclave heated up to about 120, 130, mix it all together. And that's what I like to use. But I'm the weirdo in the group.

1:51:03BubblemanWhat about you, Stuart?

1:51:07SpeakerI really enjoy smoking, you know, full spectrum. I think by cash, you really, you know, once you start pressing things, putting things under heat and you start isolating micron ranges for a lot, like you lose, you know, you lose some of the luster. You're going to lose a lot of like some of the monoterpenes and some of the more volatile compounds anytime you press. And then you get different expression of, you know, terpenes and cannabinoids and the different micron sizes of the heads.

1:51:38SpeakerI think that kind of, you know, contributes to the, you know, entourage effect of just having like a, you know, a menagerie of it's more medicine. But like, I also love the art of isolating 90 you and like 100 you and really getting in and fractionalizing the resin and trying to be as clean as possible as specific genetics to You know, that's I think that's where, you know, hash making really gets into an art, you know, on the on the making side.

1:52:06SpeakerAnd just it's also, you know, to be able to make 90 you that melts like water, you know, because you've isolated a variety that has a very thin cuticle. And, you know, it was probably very hard to even, you know, to pull that micron range, even in a cold room. Somebody is really special. So it's like from that aspect, I love. 90U, isolated, you know, trying to get really clean, low agitation.

1:52:33SpeakerBut yeah, again, the diversity of cannabis, it's tough to choose, you know, between rosin, full melt and, you know, some of these other, you know, even traditional ash. I love that smell and flavor. I don't smoke it as much now, but, you know, I do like have nostalgia for that aspect as well. So it's hard to choose.

1:53:01BubblemanGo ahead, Terps.

1:53:02SpeakerYeah, I have to say recently, like when I was younger, I used to be on rosin because I like, you know, it was a little easier. I didn't have to clean up anything. Since I started, you know, doing my own little thing and making six-star milk, I was like, yeah, man, nothing beats this. This is superior to rosin, in my opinion. There's some really good rosin, but there's just something about smoking really good full milk, man.

1:53:26SpeakerLike, it just hits differently. The effects are better for me. It tastes better. It's just, you know, the true experience of hash, in my opinion. But Ross is great too. But, you know, Ash will always fucking be number one.

1:53:41BubblemanThat's what I'm saying. You know, you've got a hundred people in a room and I'll ask everyone who has, you know, if it's like a cannabis, like, you know, panel that I'm doing on concentrates or something like 75 people will have rosin in that room. I'll say, who has rosin? They'll hold up their hands. Then I'll say, who has full melt bubble? And you might get like maybe 10, maybe five hands go up.

1:54:09BubblemanAnd then if you ask who has full melt dry sift, I mean, unless Skunk Man Sam was in the room, I would rarely see a hand go up at all. And I always like that told me everything I needed to know about which one of these is harder to obtain. Because the information is there for everyone. Do you know what I mean? Like anyone can do it.

1:54:34BubblemanHaving six star full mouth dude is rare. Like you're in, you're in a small group of people if you have that. And then to me, I always thought, and this, this was my blessing, to be honest. In the early days, in the late nineties, when I started doing this and I had full melt bubble that melted like water, I was able to turn, I don't even know how many people, you know, I can't say it was hundreds because it probably had to be thousands.

1:55:06BubblemanAnd just to be able to put that in someone's pipe the first time or on a swing or on a whatever we were puffing on at the time off of a screen with a beeline lighting it up and letting the dome pop up on the screen, the way the tension of the hash sat on a stainless steel screen would create these beautiful domes. It was yeah, that was that was my bonus.

1:55:31BubblemanThat was my gift that I got in return because it was the greatest thing ever. Thank you so much for joining us.

1:55:47BubblemanIt's too easy for people to just, A, not give a fuck, to B, think they give a fuck, and then just transfer the material over in some form or another that gets it to a point where now it's decent. Instead of just learning the relationship that Kay was going on about for... Thank you so much for joining us.

1:56:22BubblemanYou know, you can't curate that, that I don't want to say higher caliber, but just like more aware caliber of customer who's willing to say, you know, I'm not trying to buy like pre-rolled joints with floor sweepings, disty and botanical turps. I want to purchase something that is truly You know, a special product, something that went into, you know, the love of the genetics, finding the genetics, creating those relationships, you know, having your finger on the pulse in regards to who's even growing great genetics.

1:57:01BubblemanObviously, it's a lot easier to do now because you can see it. But back in the day, you kind of had to like, Thank you so much for joining us today.

1:57:36BubblemanIn regards to, you know, and I sit on both sides of the fence for genetics that I am given, I'll give to anyone. But I do understand if someone puts like specific breeding work in and real hunting and actual work into, you know, creating something that doesn't really exist. Well, you know, that's, that's theirs. That's totally understandable as well. So I sit on both sides of the fence, but I'd love to hear from you guys on that.

1:58:01K InhouseYeah, I think personally that like if you, I think it's more or less like is that other person or whoever you're giving the genetic to, are they going to like be representing your genetic kind of how you would want them to be? I think that can be some of the conversations that you have with those relationships. So that's why like I always try to give credit where credit's due.

1:58:21K InhouseBut I think to answer your question in regards to the melt and rosin situation, I think it's super strain dependent. I think the reason why when you asked a room full of 100 people and only one person's got full melt bubble, I think it's because it's such limited strains. So only certain strains, in my opinion, can have that grease down rate. Thank you so much for joining us.

1:59:02BubblemanThere's anomalies. And my friend Raz used to work for Mark Emery for his seed bank. And he would just pop any old seed, and not that it was from just anyone, but they'd be from like the breeders of the time. And then he would grow it to absolute fucking perfection, as well as I ever seen anyone grow a plant. And then I'd run them and produce like incredibly melty hash.

1:59:28BubblemanAnd it wasn't always, the yield wasn't always there, but the melt factor was like always there. He started making me start doubting myself because I thought that early on as well that there weren't that many You know, cultivars that can really melt like this. And, and in a sense, you're not wrong if you can't get them to, but it doesn't mean that they can't. If that, do you guys know what I'm saying?

1:59:58K InhouseYeah, I agree. I think I, I would still like personally, I would smoke it, but like to try to get somebody to like, they're a lot of times now, like people are so like almost like programd or accustomed to seeing a wet rosin. So they wanna see that batter, that buttery texture. And so if they're not getting that from their full melt, if it's not like wet full melt, like we've even run Sourine, which is Irino G and Sour Diesel IBL.

2:00:23K InhouseAnd that was more of a wetter consistency. And people were, that was one of the ones that sold out faster because I think they're making a connection. So I guess I agree with you completely. I think I would personally smoke any kind of melt if you handed it to me just to see what it's like, because otherwise you won't know if it's a good one or not.

2:00:44K InhouseSo for me, I'm a little bit biased in that perspective. But for like the average person who doesn't even necessarily know what rosin is, educating them on full melt might be a little bit challenging.

2:00:58BubblemanYeah, I don't doubt that whatsoever. Yeah, producing wet rosin in Colorado, I wonder what the supply chain is required to make sure that shit doesn't go in the wrong jar that's not properly sealed because I'm sure those vox could just... And the problem with... Thank you for joining us.

2:01:39BubblemanYou got to think that supply chain of the proper jar that seals properly for rosin is going to be super important to maintain that greasy, wet, you know, rosin. Oh, we got some color going in here. Oh, look at that. He's going, he just did the first eye. Solid lines. Dude, Skully's been drawing almost the entire church at Tienh. I know, I've been watching.

2:02:07Etienne FontanI watched From the Sidelines quietly this morning because it's Easter. But nice, great. I was a printmaker lithographer before I got into cannabis. So I always loved the artistic process as a self-trained artist. Thank you for watching.

2:02:42Etienne FontanSimple and easy to do a four-color, you know, litho or intaglio or something like that. But the chemicals, why I got away from it is because when I came back from the Gulf War, I was, my immune system had crashed and all the things like touche, lithotene, and all these things you use in printmaking are so toxic. That my body basically rejected it. So I've, you know, my life's been in cannabis.

2:03:09Etienne FontanSo to see next generation artists working with next generation technology that I did not have access to is endlessly fun and fascinating. There's a whole section of kids who like to watch people play video games. I grew up going... To New Orleans, going down to the French Quarter and watching the painters paint, right? Watching the caricatures caricature, you know what I'm saying? Sketch and do what they do.

2:03:35Etienne FontanThat was my television. So watching Skully work on all this is, you know, shit loads of fun. And I, again, I'm enjoying my joint and just watching, you know, an artist work. That was fun. The part of being in art is being around a bunch of artists is watching them all go from concept to create To putting something that kind of blows your mind. And that's a special gift.

2:03:59Etienne FontanYou know, not everybody's got that. And somebody like Skully to create your own vision, your own niche in the world is something each artist strives for. I never accomplished it. But to see people who do, again, it's another level of appreciation for, you know, cracking through the strata of You know, what people like, what people don't like in finding a common ground. And there's not many artists that really celebrate the uniqueness that is cannabis, right?

2:04:33Etienne FontanThere's been few and far between. We look back to the, you know, the Rick Griffiths and things like that, you know, from the 60s. But then, you know, coming into the newer generation from Scharf on and various other, especially street level artists who have, Thank you so much for joining us.

2:05:08Etienne FontanRealize, everybody, why it's all so fascinating, my father and brother were both born blind, so they could not understand creating something dimensionally, and my father was a lawyer, so he was like, why are you wasting your time fucking drawing on paper? You should be fucking working in law. It's like, you don't get it. This is my creative outlet, and just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not good.

2:05:28BubblemanWell, my stoned mind created a whole hilarious, when you first started telling that story and you talked about after the war and something, and you hadn't said my father yet, which is why I was just like listening, but it reminded me of something. And then when you just finished it with my father, I said, oh my God, now I get to do it, which is my father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a pension for buggery.

2:05:56BubblemanI don't know why, but that Austin Powers quote is what I was reminded of when you first started talking about his art.

2:06:04SpeakerI am bubbled up, brother. Let me tell you.

2:06:08BubblemanFor those of you that haven't watched that show, you should definitely check out the Austin Powers. There's some pretty funny shit in there. At least it was at one point in time in this world. Maybe you can't even make any of those jokes anymore. I don't even know. I can't keep up anymore, actually. Fucking terrible at it. I wasn't good at wearing masks or fucking getting shots either.

2:06:28BubblemanJust saying. Just fucking failed that up.

2:06:33Etienne FontanBut when it comes to hash and skiing though, masterclass.

2:06:37BubblemanI got knowledge in those aspects. Absolutely, dude. What else? What else? I had a whole bunch of different things I wanted to talk about. Did we?

2:06:50Etienne FontanWho was your first inspired artist in cannabis that really made you go? Oh, shit. Bubbleman. Who, me? Yeah, you. And then I'd love to ask.

2:07:02BubblemanMy first cannabis inspired artist? Yeah.

2:07:07Etienne FontanWas it like out of high times, Fiberless Furry Freak Brothers, you know?

2:07:10BubblemanWell, okay. Yeah. Geez. You know, the timeline would be difficult for me, but I know when I started getting, yeah, you know what? Okay. No, I absolutely know. It would be, it would be album art. Like records, right? Steve Miller Band and Led Zeppelin and, you know, these epic album covers. Sometimes they were double albums, the White Album or whatever. And or an old Rolling Stones album that was all like patches of different collages, just the different art, you know, whether they wanted it to be cannabis art or not.

2:07:49BubblemanOf course, I made it cannabis art by rolling joints on those records. And everyone I knew was rolling joints on those records. You know, before me, because I kind of came in right at the end of it, my uncle was using it to, he'd be like, yeah, we use those to separate the seeds. I'm like, seeds? Like, damn, bro. Like, how fucking rough was shit for you?

2:08:10BubblemanWe used to walk five miles to school in the snow. So I kind of got, you know, I wasn't like, we didn't have to do too much Mexi Brick before I was getting a pretty good flower up here in Canada. So albums for sure. Furry Freak Brothers were definitely on that list. And I would also say Alex Gray. I got an Alex Gray poster so, so long ago.

2:08:34BubblemanIt would have been in the 90s. It was just... 12 months of all of his artwork. And I knew nothing about Alex Gray. I just thought it was super trippy, hung it on my wall. And I remember one of them, it was a crazy picture of like a tree and it was like good on one side and bad on the other. It was the super dichotomous, like super intense, like soul crushing imagery on the one side and utopian on the other side.

2:09:03BubblemanAnd, uh, I remember like looking at it for so long, finding new shit consistently and just thought, wow, that's... That's absolutely bonkers. Gotta shout out Luke Brown too, a psychedelic artist that used to live here in Vancouver. I have a couple of his pieces over here, but they're in behind my dry sift screens, which are giant five foot tall dry sift screens. So I don't wanna go move them.

2:09:27BubblemanAnd especially right now, because Skully is drawing for us live. This is super cool, man. Like what the fucking...

2:09:37Etienne FontanCan Skully respond to us or is he just in work mode? No, you're good. I can talk to you. All right. Well, then I'm going to ask you, who were your earlier inspirations? One, what got you to pick up the pen? Two, who were the artists in cannabis that inspired you, that make you go, yeah, that's it?

2:10:00SpeakerMan, what inspired me to pick up the pen would have to, I mean, I gotta probably give credit to my mom, even though that's probably a little bit of a corny answer, but I mean, she was like giving me pencils and coloring books and I had a drafting table in my room when I was super young. She always kind of wanted me to draw. So she supported me.

2:10:20SpeakerYou must have showed that at an early age though, right? Yeah, I wanted to. I was like, I was drawing forever. I like some of my earliest memories are sitting in my room and drawing and all through school. They were like, hey, stop drawing in your notebook. You need to pay attention. And I never did. It was has just kind of been like a lifelong thing that I was doing.

2:10:42SpeakerI just never really... I don't know. I never considered it a career. I have a bad habit of talking bad to myself. And it's like, oh, it's just cartoons, whatever. I had so many art friends in school that were so talented. They drew incredible portraits and were painting beautiful oil paintings and stuff. I was like, oh, I don't measure up for this. I've been smoking weed and stuff.

2:11:05SpeakerI want to go to Colorado and get high and ski.

2:11:10BubblemanHell yeah, dude. I cannot wait to come there next year and actually get on the mountains with everyone because that is basically my favorite pastime for feeding my soul personally. Riding a motorcycle is up there pretty high, but ripping down the mountain on the snowboard in beautiful powder, obviously, or spring slush. I'm good with both of them. I'll even ride a groomer ripped down on my board at high speeds.

2:11:42BubblemanOh yeah, that's the dream.

2:11:44Etienne FontanIt's important, I think, Skully, that your mom inspired you and at least supported you, right? Because if you didn't have that type of support or that area to be creative, you would not be able to find your voice, much less your, you know, your creative voice that you've been able to sing with, right?

2:12:06SpeakerOh yeah, definitely. Yeah, getting inspired young was definitely cool. I don't know. To answer your other question, artists that I'm inspired by, I was really inspired by like Cause and Takashi Murakami. They're like really big inspirations of artists that I'm like, oh man, I would like to be on that level one day. And I really have a lot of respect for what they do. Cannabis artists, probably...

2:12:32SpeakerKiller Acid, I think his name's like Rob Cardetti, really, but he's like an inspiration for me of somebody that it's like, oh, wow, I was looking around like, man, you know, there aren't a lot of artists that really champion weed. A lot of artists love weed, but they don't put it in their work a lot because, you know, The truth is it alienates people and I see it when I go and try and do an events and stuff like that.

2:12:54SpeakerPeople run up to my table and they're like, oh wow, this is amazing. And then they see it's all about like rosin and like hash and stuff like that. And they're like, oh, all right, all right. And they kind of like shuffle their kids away. But I don't know, I really wanted to stick up for it. I love cannabis in the community and it's always been weird to me how like stigmatized it is.

2:13:16SpeakerWhen, I don't know, I feel like we're really trying to make a difference and bringing a good vibe to kind of the party scene in a way that like, man, what's a competition like alcohol? Like it really doesn't, I don't know. It's really kind of a negative vibe. So I've always wanted to do what I can to try and like reduce the stigma a little bit and show people like, hey, it's actually not scary.

2:13:41SpeakerIt's like a totally normal, cool thing for you to do and you don't have to hate people for doing it.

2:13:47Etienne FontanWell, since your mom was also your inspiration, how did she feel about when you pivoted toward cannabis? Was she supportive or?

2:13:54SpeakerNo, my parents are really like conservative Christian. They don't like weed at all.

2:14:01SpeakerYeah, no, they would definitely they probably would still prefer that I like don't smoke or do any of that. But we've sort of just like. Thank you for watching.

2:14:28BubblemanYou got to follow your passion. You got to be authentic. And sometimes it's hard when your parents don't necessarily want you to be your authentic self. They want you to be their authentic self. And that is a hard part on both sides. I've been on both sides of that as a parent. But I guess for me, it's been a little easier because I don't enforce my will on my kids.

2:14:51BubblemanBut it's definitely like you always will see your kids, you know, There's this world available to them that they can choose. It's likely they could choose something that you relate to, and it's likely they could choose something that you don't relate to. And then you just have that experience that you get to go through and figure out and learn about how to... How to be, it's generally always just about letting go of things that probably aren't really that important in the first place, right?

2:15:24BubblemanYou know, where that intense energy comes from. It's not coming from your side. It's coming from the side of the person that is feeling like, I don't want you to do that, you know? And they probably believe deeply that it's, you know, very bad for you or that maybe it's harming you or something, which would make those thoughts scarier than they actually are.

2:15:44Etienne FontanWell, Marcus, that also brings me to you.

2:15:46BubblemanWere your parents initially supportive of you when you went into bubble bags? Listen, before I went into bubble bags and my parents found burnt safety pins in my bedroom because I took a battery out of one of my toys and was like plussing and minusing these safety pins and turning them red hot. And I was like 11 or 12 years old and my parents found these. My dad was a fireman, so it was like he didn't fuck around with fire.

2:16:09BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

2:16:34BubblemanI think they fucking set all of this up and it's really, you know, the credit, not the blame, but the credit should go to them for sure. And Constable John Lowe. But by the time I started Bubble Bags, listen, I had already done the...

2:16:54BubblemanAdam Middleton, Edmonton, Edmonton, Edmonton, Edmonton, Edmonton

2:17:19BubblemanAnd she said that she had like run my name and saw that I had a crack cocaine charge, which is hilarious because I had just been busted a month prior with like, I can't remember if it was 16 pounds or 16 kilos or what it was, but it was a bunch of weed and a little bit of cash And it was for the BC Compassion Club. I was out shopping for them that day and I ended up going through this roadblock and getting it all taken.

2:17:47BubblemanAnd I had hash in my pocket, dry sift, like a rock of dry sift, and they thought it was crack cocaine. So they charged me with crack cocaine. Then they proceeded to take that rock and test it over and over and over and over again. Until there was none left and they dropped that charge. But my mom saw that charge on her computer, didn't even see the cannabis charge and probably wouldn't have cared about it.

2:18:11BubblemanSo it was not overly stoked about the crack cocaine charge. Was very happy when I explained to her that that charge was not a charge and it would be going away. And then I would also kind of win my case and get no fine and no time. And the judge ordered all the money be given back so I could give it to the BC Compassion Club. And so it was only after being busted that I started Fresh Hatties and the Bubble Bags.

2:18:38BubblemanAnd so I think they were quite happy with me doing that. At that point in time, they had already known me for Being a full cannabis person, activist, like in your face, like actively doing all things cannabis at all times on both sides of the fence. So, yeah, they were they were pretty stoked when I started the bags because I was, you know, I'd explain to my dad, I'm like, listen, like.

2:19:04BubblemanIt's like selling weed, but I just sell the bags, but the bags are being bought with the money that the people are selling the weed for. So it's like this, I'm a part of it, but I'm not a part of it. And how I learned that was from my lawyer, John Conroy, who would take- I was about to say that's some goddamn lawyer speak if I ever- He would take my bags of money and then just go put it in the bank and it would become a paycheck.

2:19:28BubblemanAnd if I got pulled over with said bag of money, it would be called proceeds of crime. And I was just like, whoa, this is a crazy perspective shift on this bag of money that you just have the lawyer's administrator or secretary or whatever take in and go put into the bank. And it's suddenly now, it's just like the money was never black market when it went to the lawyer.

2:19:55BubblemanAnd that was the same way with the bubble bags. And everyone was just buying these bubble bags like crazy. That now full circle, you know, probably how I know the majority of you or definitely how the majority of you know me, in full circle is that I have this amazing access You know, the way, the same way you guys are currently curating these brands in Colorado. I love the opportunity to find these smaller hash makers and bring them into this market and be able to get curated.

2:20:28BubblemanI love the idea of doing legends in Denver and Boulder. Aaron Weissman, Ed Sheeran, and many, many more.

2:20:52BubblemanThere's sponsorships involved. And I mean, generally how we did Legends in Portland and Los Angeles is we'd hire a wedding planner to organize the whole thing. Someone who is professional at dealing with the rentals, the food, all the building, all of the different licenses you may or may not need. Everything that needs to be lined up. You don't want some... Dude, chain smoking dabs being in charge of that.

2:21:18BubblemanLike that's important. So doing that like more than once a year for at least just legends. is is not possible but doing a monthly gathering where you you you are it like like similar to a jar check where it's really like a like a melt check or a resin check or whatever i mean there's no better name than jar check uh we'll just have to pay homage to uh to puffco and jolly roger because it truly is such a simple yet brilliant concept to me jar check You can have them often and they can really bubble up these hidden gems, these little hidden.

2:21:59BubblemanTo me, a jar check is which is very much what a legends is, which is you're running your community through an eight bag system and you're pulling the 90 and the 73. And that is your.

2:22:11BubblemanThere's your community that competes for legends. These are the people taking it the most serious and really paying attention. And to me, no one's mentioned it, but I think Each and every one of you that are breeding and phenohunting have to have extremely sensitive olfactories. You have to have specialized, dialed in, sommelier level olfactories to perceive these unique profiles and differences that you're looking for. Would you not agree?

2:22:52BubblemanGotta have your jaw. That's, you know, you guys all have a good sense of smell or any of you like going to say, I don't have a sense of smell. I can't smell shit.

2:23:01Etienne FontanOr do you guys find that I lost my sense of smell for a decade, but I got it back. And I think because of that loss, it got better.

2:23:10Collin PalmerHonestly, I think mine got better over time, Marcus, to be honest. As I got more educated and got deeper into olfactory and just understanding like isolated compounds, what do they smell like? And then when they add them together, what do they smell like? You know, I think it got better and better as I understood. And I attributed to much like music as I understood how to play music better.

2:23:32Collin PalmerIt was through that same repetition of practice, right? So I very much take the same approaches to To flavor and scent, you know, and I think that that same obsession with music is the same with, you know, with flavor, I think. And I would imagine others have that same kind of like affinity for it where you get really locked in and then you're just, you get more exploratory.

2:23:58Collin PalmerSo, but it was through education, I would say that mine got better, but.

2:24:05BubblemanYeah, I think you can definitely pump the skill, but I also think, There's a sensitivity issue that I don't think can be trained in. I think that a lot of people who become sommeliers, they just have these extremely sensitive olfactories. You know, on top of that, you can obviously train yourself. I mean, one of the most important things when you see... Is to not bury the flavors, your nose into the flavors, but keep it at a distance, especially when it's like a super like, like terpenes, like you're actually smelling, you know, straight Vox without, you know, any resin in it at all.

2:24:41BubblemanI see people hold it right up to their nose and inhale. And I'm like, Whoa, like, just give it a nice light waft, you know, give it a go ahead.

2:24:51SpeakerI think you either have it or you don't. Like, that's what I'm saying. It, it kind of like leads to like market separations too. Like there's always going to be people that like, what's a, what's a respectful way to put it? Like there's always going to be people that are like, yeah, dude, my favorite cheeseburger comes from McDonald's.

2:25:18BubblemanAnd God bless them.

2:25:20SpeakerRight. Like, and that's okay. Just like, like, You know, like, and that's fine. And they're never gonna pay like 35 or 40 bucks for some crazy wagyu dry aged cheeseburger. Like it's never gonna happen. And if you gave them one for free, they'd just be like, yeah, this is nice, but I like McDonald's. Like it seems very similar to me or like overly fancy. And that's okay.

2:25:47SpeakerAnd then there's other people that are like, this doesn't taste like real food. You know, like, and those people can pick up that it doesn't even taste like natural. Cal product, you know, it's not like they don't there. There's this is a whole other path that we could go down that I'm not going to.

2:26:07Collin PalmerYou're touching on some really like heady stuff now, because like for me, that's there's a version of music like there's some guy that was doing a cover of a drum track that was made on it, clearly made on a computer. And I had another hash maker and I were having this talk about I was like, man, like I can hear the fill. It's above 64th note triplets like.

2:26:25Collin PalmerIt compresses the sound. And then a day later, the drummer actually separated his take versus him playing over top of it. And sure enough, the snare crunch was there. And you could hear it, right? And I called it immediately out. But it was only because of how much time You spend understanding this stuff, but what you just said was two people can eat the same cheeseburger and two people can listen to the same song and get completely different things out of that, right?

2:26:54Collin PalmerAnd there's something wonderful about that because there's no wrong, right? And we go through this a lot and I love Marcus's comment of God bless them. Like it just makes me die inside because it's so funny and true because it's like you can't, You're not going to change that, right? You can try to influence them and you can try to offer them these different opportunities to have, in your case, a better cheeseburger.

2:27:20Collin PalmerBut to your point, it's either you have it or you don't. And it'll take someone like yourself or Marcus or Kyle or Skully or Stuart here or ATN to show you that, hey, this other cheeseburger, or if it's a jar in this case, try this one. You know, and it'll maybe take them time or like a lot of time with that jar to really understand what you're the nuance and understanding you have of that is.

2:27:51BubblemanWhat you're explaining, Colin, is that we just we all don't perceive reality the same way. And recently I sent my wife a little video recently, which was there's like five or six people in this room and they've got this ball or there's maybe two balls. And there's like three of them or four of them out of like eight or seven of them are wearing white t-shirts. And the question is, how many times do you see the people in the white t-shirts pass the ball?

2:28:24BubblemanAnd it's about it's about a minute and a half long. And so you're watching it and it's kind of clipping. It's kind of like part of the psychology is that they it's a little sketchy, like it skips a couple of times, like it pauses for a split second and another time it jumps forward to just this ever so split second. So it It double and triple engages you into focusing on these white shirts.

2:28:47BubblemanAnd then at the end of it, and it's a minute long, you know, you're like, oh, I got like 14 or 13 or 15. I got 14. And the answer was 15. And it said, you know, you're really close. And then it said, but did you see the gorilla? And I'm like, And so I go back on this video and at one point in time, someone wearing a gorilla outfit walks into the middle of this room, stands in the middle of these three fucking people passing this ball in white t-shirts.

2:29:19BubblemanAnd bro, I did not see that fucking gorilla. It stands there for like 30 seconds. I sent it to my wife. She didn't see the gorilla. And what it shows you is that everyone has different awareness. It also leans into why it's so important that the interest of social media right now is to become the ultimate marketing tool. Advertisement base for everything and what it needs to do that is it needs to steal yours and everyone else's focus and once you can steal someone's focus you can control how much or of what portion of reality they perceive and that fucking video is like i'll send it to you dude

2:30:06Collin PalmerNo, I've seen it, dude. I love it. It's funny. I love it. It's funny. I got 14 the same way you did. It's funny. I tried to... It's funny. But I did see the gorilla, though. And I was like, what the hell? What's up with the gorilla? And I'm like trying to count as I see this thing. It's so funny that you brought that up because I literally saw the same thing.

2:30:26Collin PalmerI was thinking about it the other day as well, but it's... You're so right, Marcus. And I love this conversation. I actually have to roll, guys, but... I think what we're touching on is so important because it stems back to everything we talked about today, which is your focus and the decisions you make. Right, Marcus? You know, these are these are things we we get in our own worlds and we kind of get tunnel vision on, you know, we forget and we don't we're not aware that the world around us is quite large.

2:30:58BubblemanYou know, dude, I like that freeze dryer getting drawn. This is so fun. I want to make sure we touch on the reserve because maybe my second trip, it might have been my first trip to Colorado because I made a point when Adam Dunn came here back in, I want to say it must have been 2013, but it could have been 2007 for all I know. He would know better than I.

2:31:25BubblemanHe came and he stopped in, called me. Him and his girlfriend at the time came by and stopped. I hooked him up with some nice herbs and hash and sent him on his way. They were driving to Banff, Jasper, and that whole area. So when I was in Colorado, I made a point on reaching out to him. And he said, oh, you got to come meet me at my buddy Kyle's place.

2:31:50BubblemanIt's going to be the spot. And I had already been in, you know, in Colorado for a few days and been to some pretty cool spots. And I thought, fuck, like if Adam says it's going to be the spot, it's fucking probably going to be a pretty, pretty good spot. And so that is how I was introduced to Kyle. That's how I met him and saw his space, The Reserve, which is just, I've gone on about it on Hash Church more than a few times.

2:32:19BubblemanI just wanted to talk about a little bit about it because we've been we've been brainstorming. We've been talking about it. But I guess, Kyle, why don't you talk about, you know, your vision on why you got this place in the first place?

2:32:32SpeakerAbsolutely, man. I appreciate the kind words. And, you know, following up on Adam, I think he's the only person that I know that can actually call you bubble boy from back in the day.

2:32:42BubblemanYep, because it's not offensive when he does it. I do not know why everyone else that does it, it bugs the shit out of me. But when Adam does it, I'm like, you know what? He's not doing it with like the hatred.

2:32:54SpeakerNo, no, he does not have respect. Like, it's like paying homage to where you came from. You know, it's like, you know, Adam, Adam is, he looks so young, but he's almost 60. And a lot of people don't know his story, which I'm sure you'll get into with him at some point. But, you know, my whole goal with this space was to kind of revamp and re, like, revision the way that hash is looked at.

2:33:17SpeakerRight now in Denver, I spoke about it a little bit earlier. There's two places that you can publicly consume that are open to the public. My, my So, you know, it's basically my house is not open to the public. So anything that we do here at my place is going to be a very upper echelon, extremely high end, you know, 90U equivalent experience. So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to take what existed in the old school of very high end, you know, wine and liquor and convert that to the new school of hash.

2:33:48SpeakerSo with my place, we have It's massive, as you know, but we have a full butler's bar that we're going to be building out instead of for liquor as a custom hash bar. So basically taking the top tier of hash now and replacing liquor with what people in my generation are now consuming, which is cannabis. And for me, the highest end of hash. And I think a lot of the stuff that sparked the change to be the change that I wanted to see was that A lot of these hash events in Colorado, people don't even know the difference between live rosin and live resin, right?

2:34:26SpeakerSo to me, that's a very kindergarten level understanding. And when you're going to some place and you're trying to show off the highest end hash, and you tell somebody, yeah, you know, for two grams of this, it's $180. And they just look at you like you're insane. Those are the kinds of people that need to catch up to Where the people like, you know, Nick, the reporter provisions and all the people in this panel are at, which is we are we are accustomed to the highest end of hash, the highest end of food and creating an environment in which we can all enjoy the lifestyle that we like to live without it being impeded on by people who are not as of the higher class.

2:35:09SpeakerAnd that's where I find myself is always getting I'm kind of into cahoots with people who, you know, I'll have a rig and, you know, I only want people to smoke rosin out of it and someone will take a live resin glob out of it. And they don't understand that that's, you know, bad etiquette.

2:35:23BubblemanSo I've done that on a number of occasions and I always feel bad. I do love the vision that you have when I did my gallery in 2003, The Melting Point. It was kind of like along the same lines. What I wanted to do was I felt like the people who were into cannabis and wanted to learn about cannabis and learn about these high grade hashes that they deserved a beautiful space to be in while they did it.

2:35:49BubblemanSo I had this, you know, also Japanese cherry hardwood floors and a beautiful glass gallery. And, you know, people would come in off the street and be like, What the fuck is this place? You know, I was doing like raw vegan organic food like from this from the kitchen that was just like super fucking iry. Like you got high off the food when you ate the food.

2:36:11BubblemanThis was like literally 25 years ago or 23 years ago that I was doing this. So I've always had the vision of redoing it again in the sense of just like The comfort of your space is such an iry vibe. The fireplace, the super tall ceilings, the piano up on the mezzanine, the elevator. It's all just such a vibe to be in that space, smoking joints, playing pool, ping pong, the whole nine yards.

2:36:43BubblemanLike the space, you could do so much with it. The kitchen is one of the most beautiful kitchens I've seen in a very long time. So the food that you could pump out of there as well, which is always an

2:36:53SpeakerWell, we're going to be, and you know, Marcus, I couldn't be happier to partner with someone like you to really bring this experience, you know, to people, right? I mean, this is not, I kind of want to touch on something Kay said earlier, because he hit the nail on the head with the Colorado events where, you know, There's many events that are happening this year. They're mostly money grabs and people are trying to curate an experience in which, you know, how can we sell our hash kind of in a gray area and give VIP bags and do, you know, vendors and do all this stuff.

2:37:21SpeakerFor me, it's not about... Throwing an event. It's about creating an upper echelon experience. And for example, like we're not going to have vendors, right? There might be vendors like Low Temp that's doing a hash washing demo or something like that, but there's not going to be a bunch of trappers that are sitting around with a table and, you know, selling their hash. This to me is not a money thing as much as it is.

2:37:45SpeakerI want to create the experience in which I cannot have right now. And that's, I think, the most crucial thing is that, you know, Kay said it earlier, like there's people that have approached me. I've been approached by five plus people who have these, oh, I have these speakeasy concepts and I have these and they're trying to be a middleman to place, you know, an event in a venue, but they don't have a really, you know, equity in either of them.

2:38:11SpeakerSo what I'm doing is obviously I have the venue and I'm bringing all of the headiest people together from food to glass art to hash to regular art like Skully Vibes, Vincent Gordon, Chris Dyer, and all the people that are representing the highest tier of hash right now. This is going to be an exclusive destination spot for us to have dinners, parties that are of the highest end that hash has ever seen.

2:38:40SpeakerI'm in.

2:38:43SpeakerAnd I know all, I mean, most of these guys are in. Terps over Yields, he was there. Portal's obviously in. He's a big part of it.

2:38:48BubblemanWell, that's what makes it even better. Once you add the hash and the iry people and then the sick glass, like Robertson brought all sorts of crazy pipes over last time, that giraffe mothership collab with the uranium mouthpiece. That was absolutely.

2:39:04SpeakerMatt's coming over for a sesh on Tuesday. So we're going to be, we're talking about doing and including with you, obviously, a monthly glass showcase. So Matt can, Matt can, you know, draw all the artists from Everdream or internationally. And we can put together a show of, you know, five people and, You know, a month or whatever, and then add a hash component to that. So there's plenty of things that we're going to do that are really for the experience and the locations in the middle of downtown Denver.

2:39:32SpeakerIt's a block from Coors Field. And the whole key with events in Denver is location. You don't want a mansion that's 30 minutes from the city, especially for a destination event where people are coming in maybe from internationally. They want a place that they can stay, the venue's close, and then there's food around, and they don't feel like they're stuck somewhere. That's kind of a weird destination vibe without the modern amenities and the ability to explore the city.

2:40:00SpeakerSo within the general vicinity, I think within a mile radius, there's like 15 to 20 different hotels from the Four Seasons to the Ritz to the Westin to Hilton. I mean, there's tons. So there's not been anything like this that's been done in Denver, specifically because of the laws and the rules and regulations with the MED. And what we're doing is we're really creating a place for people to be able to try the highest end jars from around the country.

2:40:27SpeakerAnd it's not a money grab. It's not a money thing where I'm thinking, oh, we're going to make all this money off of this. I want this because there's nothing right now. I'm not going to go to the public consumption lounges right now unless all of my friends go with me. Because I just know that the people that are sitting around there are not the people that I associate with.

2:40:48BubblemanIt's always nice to be able to hang out with your homies. It's also nice like when we've had a couple gatherings at your place, getting people driving in. Like, you know, like coming in from, I mean, Stuart and Jack are definitely, you guys are driving, right? You're not just coming in from 10 minutes away.

2:41:05SpeakerWe're about an hour out, so, you know. Exactly. It's worth it to bring all the good people together. I see Nicky T in here. It's one of my really good friends. I do a lot of work with him. He's going to be a huge part of this. He was actually supposed to be on here today, but messaged me that he didn't feel good this morning. So we'll get him on the next one.

2:41:26BubblemanBut he said he went snowboarding.

2:41:29SpeakerNo, he said he woke up and didn't feel good to me, but maybe he ended up going snowboarding after to feel better. I don't blame him.

2:41:35BubblemanThat's a good way to feel better. That's how I feel the best, actually.

2:41:41SpeakerAnd, you know, the biggest part of this to me too is the food, right? And Portal, if you want to talk a little bit about the food, I know that for your wedding and with your chef, you know, the experience that you create with cultivating, you know, unique food and unique dishes paired either with hash, with jars to smoke, or having the option of doing infusion. It's just a whole nother level, right?

2:42:03SpeakerAnd it creates an intimacy where you're sharing a meal versus just sharing a jar. You're sharing both. So that's something I'm really looking forward to is creating this experience versus just going somewhere and being like, oh, now I got to buy from vendors and cool. There's a smoking tent. And it's just kind of the same thing that everyone else experiences and I'm ready for a change.

2:42:24BubblemanDude, listen, it was the exact same thing with my gallery. I didn't want, first of all, the thing I didn't want was just Cokes and Donuts and chocolate bars being available. I was like, that's why I ended up going insane and going the healthiest, most organic. And I just thought, like, I noticed that people... You know, if you wanted the full, the full melt experience, then that was beyond the hash, right?

2:42:48BubblemanIt's also the people, it's the environment, it's the food, it's even the water. I mean, I don't want to drink like 25U water. I want to drink the 73 water.

2:43:01SpeakerOh, dude, I mean, you know, I got the El Dorado Springs water and I look into all the different water. I put shower filters on all the showers to filter out chlorine and any of the stuff in the city. I mean, water is obviously life, right? And as growers, we know that. So it's very important from, you know, the cleaning products used in the place to the water quality to, I mean, everything is the highest, highest end that you can get.

2:43:26SpeakerAnd that's the kind of the vibe that I want to put out there.

2:43:31BubblemanIt's going to be a fun summer for sure. That is for sure. I'm coming. Do you want to touch?

2:43:39SpeakerYou want to touch a little bit on the chef stuff? Oh, yeah. So a good friend of mine runs a supper club here in Denver and sometimes in the we've collaborated on doing Kyle S Hauptman, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services, Food and Drug Services,

2:44:10SpeakerMy friend Nate, you know, like runs this awesome dinner club. He likes to travel and eat food the same way that like myself and Jack and Stuart kind of travel around and do this hash thing and see all the different things. So he very well understands like what a high end dish is. So he also is a connoisseur of hash, rosin and all of that. So know him knowing like what The hash tastes like we typically do like a five course dinner with each course coming with like a jar, like a paired jar that's designed around the dish.

2:44:51SpeakerLike, you know, I do a peaches or a peach maraschino strain and we serve that with like peaches and burrata as an appetizer at one of the dinners. We try and change it every time. And not be on repeat with dishes, but those are the types of dinners that we are looking forward to bringing to the reserve.

2:45:10BubblemanI feel like we deserve that.

2:45:14SpeakerIt's one of those things that like I said earlier, like, you know, some people are going to be like, yeah, that's cool. I want to go to that and I want to be at that. And some other people might, you know, like they might not understand that or might not be interested in that. And that's okay. But for the people that We are interested in that and do understand it.

2:45:35SpeakerMy whole intention with those dinners that we've done so far was to provide something that it's not uncommon for people to go and spend a really significant amount of money at a nice restaurant. And some of the stuff in our space, it's usually pretty expensive. It's not cheap, but it's like, Did it deliver on, like, if you spent that same $250 at a restaurant, would you be like, damn, that sucked?

2:46:09SpeakerLike, that food wasn't good. Like, regardless of whether or not your dinner came with hash or you could smoke there while you were sitting, like, is that part of the experience valid? So that's what this is.

2:46:27SpeakerAnd it's it's great, man, because we're going to bring all the Denver people that aren't really getting the light shine on them, you know, in the light, too. I mean, even Skully Vibes, right? Like it's it's it's an honor to have him be a part of this. And as far as the art, he's a huge part of the hash scene in Denver, but he's not really as well known in the hash scene internationally.

2:46:44SpeakerSo. For the people that will be traveling here as, you know, a destination, I'm excited to put on a lot of the Denver scene that might not, you know, be known right now. And for example, like Bubble Man has his whole line of products here. He has the hash hits. He's got the rosin vapes. He's got, you know, tons of different things in the works. I want people to be able to come here and come to a dinner and, you know, be able to hang out with Bubble Man and try his products in Colorado.

2:47:10SpeakerRight. I mean, this is history right here that we need to document and we need to experience and then create the venue for people to experience so that they have an education and a palette of understanding what is the best hash. You know, when I smoke bubble man's hash, how do I feel?

2:47:28BubblemanI quite enjoy it myself. I quite enjoy smoking all of your hash. I, I. I really quite like that cowboy one that you had, Stuart, and I really liked you brought that fresh press. The first time we bumped into you at Tetra Lounge, Jack, you had this fresh press. Was that like a Honey Bananas fresh press or something? Yeah.

2:47:50SpeakerYeah, that was, I was just playing around that day. And like, I had these five U bags from, uh, I think Rosin, Rosin Inc out in Florida and they gave some to me. And so I was going to test it out. And, uh, that's when I brought it over to y'all. I definitely think it was, uh, definitely some of the better fresh press. Oh my God. It was just, it was fire, bro.

2:48:12SpeakerThat's some of the better. That was like some of the best fresh press I've ever had. Oh yeah. Love to hear that. Yeah, we're starting to do more fresh press and melt. I was kind of like, not against it, but it was just kind of like my situation. It's, you know, it's hard to do. You got to have a cold room and all this, but now I'm starting to play around with it more and figure out how to get it in the jar and make it look all pretty and clear tech and all that jazz.

2:48:34SpeakerSo it's been fun. I'm definitely going to start releasing more fresh press. Me and Stu have a collab coming up. We're actually going to do a little bit of fresh press release. So stay tuned for that. I can't wait to showcase it, man. Yeah, 420 New York. Be there. We're dropping it there.

2:48:53Bubbleman420 New York, eh? Shit. That's crazy, dude. I'm going to be in Boston on the 22nd. That's so close.

2:49:02SpeakerHuh. You guys will link, I'm sure.

2:49:08BubblemanYeah. That'd be sweet. Do 420 in New York. Where in New York is it?

2:49:14SpeakerManhattan, I think. And there's events all over the city. But I mean, I've never been to New York during 420. But I've heard it's pretty crazy. You know, people are set up in the park and there's events going on. It's so we're really excited. You know, me and everyone, you know, Portal, Stuart, a couple other buddies from out here in Colorado. We're going to compete in Masters of Rosin and some other events while we're there as well.

2:49:40SpeakerShould be a good time.

2:49:41BubblemanI've judged that event. It is a lovely event.

2:49:45SpeakerYeah, they do it right. I really like judging and it's like, you know, the judges get their time to sit down and smoke everything and try anything. Whereas some competitions you sit down and you have to smoke 40 dabs all at once and you can feel rushed and your palate's all messed up. So,

2:50:00BubblemanIt happens at Masters too, because you feel like you have time, but I can't remember how many days you actually have. If you fuck around and you go too slow, then you're doing the 40 dabs in a row on the last day, trying to get it into the thing. I've got one of their Pelican cases over here with all the old jars in it. There's like 62 from the one year that I...

2:50:23BubblemanI'll never forget landing and having 62 half gram jars of rosin. First of all, That is dangerous in Spain to be rolling around with that much rosin broken up in particular like that. Like they're not idiots and you could tell them it was a contest, but they would definitely think you were selling it if they saw it broken up like that, you know? And then you end up like a trichome tortoise where they go and they took his hair.

2:50:50BubblemanThey took hair samples, shaved right down to the, to the skull, like his fucking head. And I was, I was like, dude, why, why are you have those two spots shaved? Oh man. They, I told them that all the rosin they took from me. Cause he got rosin taken from him. I think first in the U S which is like all over the internet right now, there's like on some like smuggling show or whatever is, is out there.

2:51:13BubblemanI'm sure you guys have seen it. If you haven't, you will in the near future. But then he came to Barcelona and also got caught with Rosen. And they were like, they wanted to make sure he wasn't selling it. And so they tested his hair. And they were like, they were like, if you if this is all yours, you will have a very high percentage of THC in your hair.

2:51:33BubblemanAnd apparently he had like a higher one than they thought. So they they didn't charge him with trafficking. I only know that because Trichome Tortoise won Legends of Hash that year. He was the only one that brought his own ice and had his melt on ice the entire time. Like right up until it got to the judges, he had his full melt on ice. And then I think it was like some Z Boo for Super Boo.

2:52:02BubblemanI can't remember what it was. Anyway, he won Legends with it. It was full melt. Then... We both flew out of Spain on different flights and we ended up meeting at the airport in London because both of our flights to totally different places were canceled. And then we ended up like on voucher at the free hotel at the airport or the airlines, which I guess both our airlines just happened to send us to the same one.

2:52:27BubblemanAnd we almost got like kicked out of that hotel and probably close to arrested because they don't fuck around with weed. The whole floor wanted to be evacuated. That's how loud his resin was. We just had like four or five dabs. And I guess the system is like it pulls the air from every room and just recirculates it. So it like within like within three or four dabs.

2:52:52BubblemanWhich was, was literally like, I wish I could explain to you the mountain we had to climb to take these dabs because it was like, we bumped into another dude and he had like a pipe, but I had a D nail, but I didn't have the coil or, but he had the coil, but then we didn't have the plug. And it was just this insane 45 minutes of finally putting everything together and being like, holy shit, we can dab.

2:53:13BubblemanAnd literally we dabbed for like five minutes before we heard this like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang on the door. And I look outside And it's like nine security guards. And they're like walking up and down the floor smelling. And so, yeah, we had to play that, that our room smelled like weed, like the rest of the hotel. And we didn't know where it was coming from, but it was amazing that they seemed to know it was us.

2:53:37BubblemanWe bluffed them.

2:53:39SpeakerAll was well.

2:53:43SpeakerMarcus, one thing I do want you to touch on, you know, we said jar check a bunch, but I think what's going to make a lot of this really cool with what we're doing with the reserve is the testing device that you have access to. And if you want to talk a little bit about that, I'm sure it's redundant for people who tune in all the time.

2:54:00SpeakerBut that's a huge thing for me, right? Like being able to test things on the spot.

2:54:06BubblemanI really do. I have it right next to me. It's under my gummies and a D-nail and a couple of my little mini scope, my eye scope, but it's right here. It's the Valen Veras. And I've had a couple of these different units. I have another one over there called the Gem Assert, but the company went under and the program's no longer available, so you can't access the database.

2:54:25BubblemanSo it's become, that thing over there has become a complete and total paperweight. But this particular unit, which is Valenvera's, I've spoken a little bit about it on here before. I guess it is right here. So it would be probably ridiculous not to just show it. So it comes in this little case. It's called the Neospectra.

2:54:48BubblemanAnd it is a super fucking convenient little toy and tool, not just toy. I use it specifically as a hash maker. That's what I prefer it for. This is the unit right here. The entire unit is right here. It's an NIR. So it's going to shoot light up at the material. And this little unit will test your So, cannabinoids for resins, hashes, rosin, full melt, dry sift, any of those solid kind of hashes, it's going to test just for cannabinoid content, whatever the cannabinoids are.

2:55:35BubblemanAdam Dizzle, Nick, Skully Vibes, Soil Grown, Storm, Stuart, Subcool, Swami Chaitanya, Adam Van Dyken, Aaron Waight, Aaron Waight,

2:55:51BubblemanOnce you remove the unbound water, you want to stop. Now, a lot of people get nervous about that and they don't want microbials. I know you don't really probably have that problem in Colorado because it gets so fucking dry, but you want to learn how to set the bound water in so it doesn't come out. That's really where you lose your weight and the flower just becomes like poof.

2:56:13BubblemanSo there's value in that. And then, of course, there's value as a grower using it for cannabinoid content. You know, testing your flowers for terpenes and cannabinoids can also lead you to validate your food schedules. It can do a whole bunch of cool shit. The thing I use it for personally is hash making. So especially static hash, when I'm making a bunch of dry sift, I'm going to test the material I'm using.

2:56:39BubblemanI'll find out the THC percentage. That'll give me an idea on the number I need to search for in regards to how much resin I'm going to get off of the screens. Then I'll test that material and I'll find out, oh, you know, if the percentage is only 35 or 40%, I know that the purity is probably less than 30% heads. And so it just gives me a way to see things that is incredibly convenient.

2:57:04BubblemanIt creates a clarity through data resolution. So I quite like it. From the perspective of being at like a place like the reserve, It's an incredible place to be able to come get your stuff tested, to get eyes on it outside of a lab. It takes a minute per test. There's no cost per test. It's really social. You can do it in a really social environment where people are banging the tables and taking dabs and blowing smoke.

2:57:32BubblemanAnd the unit is still extremely accurate under those conditions. And then the real value of having it at the reserve is... You know, being able to offer these growers that are also focused on hash making the ability to bring in their leaves from plants and test their macro and micronutrients. And so that leads back to validating feed cycles. That leads back to telling you what you may be missing in your plants or what you may be putting too much into.

2:58:05BubblemanI think it's incredible to Adam Dizzle, Nick, Skully Vibes, Soil Grown, Storm, Stuart, Subcool, Swami Chaitanya, Aaron Wade, Adam Dunn, Andy Verzura, Brandon Krenzler, Bobby Nuggs, Brandon Krenzler, Bobby Nuggs, Cheryl T Rose, Chip, Chris Bennett.

2:58:29BubblemanUh, cannabinoid for extracts, um, flour and macro and micronutrients for, for the plant itself. So, but there's many, many more models that you can get. And of course this unit itself is, the company is now owned by Bucci, a big Swiss pharmaceutical company. And they've, uh, they just bought the company for, I don't know what it's made in America. It's got 150 plus patents on it. And it was Ruben Valenvera's, uh, The Catalonian friend of ours who really designed the models through the University of Barcelona in Amsterdam, working with companies like BioBiz.

2:59:06BubblemanHe ended up getting a big grant in Europe to do some of this work in the agricultural department. He has like two or three degrees in agricultural engineering. And so he's a real smart guy, real psychedelic guy, real cool guy. We love him. He's awesome. And he is really the brains behind the... The programming of this particular unit to work with cannabis. So yeah, we want to get one and have one at the reserve, make it a service, make it available.

2:59:35BubblemanAnd yeah, we have Ruben's partner, Santi, lives in Denver as well. He operates a psilocybin company and those guys are just top notch dudes as well from the mushroom community. We had them over at the reserve and him and Spoon and the rest of them. And they all they were testing for hours. I think they tested. Did they not test all of Stuart's products at one point in time?

3:00:03SpeakerI think they tested their five milligram gummies on me, didn't they?

3:00:08BubblemanYes, yes, you made a mistake on that one.

3:00:11SpeakerYeah, that was user error. That was an operator error, not on the company. But instead of taking three milligrams, it ended up being 15 milligrams of extract before my little sash event at my house. And Matt Robertson, his video guy, puts on the themed jungle music. And that was kind of the start of the beginning of the end there, where I was like, oh, no, this is...

3:00:37SpeakerThings are, things are, we're not in Kansas anymore.

3:00:40BubblemanYou were deep in it, Kyle. I will not lie. Like that is the highest I've seen you ever. Not that I've hung out with you a ton, but you were extremely like, woof. I was like, I'm just taking dabs, but you're like tripping balls over here, dude.

3:00:54SpeakerOh dude, it was great. I mean, there's no better way to break the place in, right? Like you think everything is set and then you're just like, okay, yeah, now my mind's gone. So whatever happens, happens. I ring doorbell and my phone is going off like crazy. And it was just one of those times where I was like, man, I'm glad that this happened on the first event because it's usually the way that it needs to go.

3:01:14BubblemanYeah, absolutely. That's awesome. Well, I'm sorry you guys didn't get snow on your mountains this year. That really is a disappointment, but I bet you guys have a great year next year. I bet you it comes back.

3:01:28SpeakerOh, I hope so. Yeah, you love to rub it in my face, Marcus. Just, you know, check out all the freshies and check out all the slush.

3:01:35BubblemanDude, that's not rubbing anything in your face. You are completely capable of jumping on a plane and going to Missler and spending the next two weeks there spring skiing.

3:01:44SpeakerI know, I know. We got to balance work-life balance, right? I might come out there. We'll see. Yeah, absolutely.

3:01:53BubblemanWhat do we got? 12 o'clock? Well, we've done three hours so far. That's pretty good. Definitely want to shout out Puffco and the Press Club for being sponsors of the show. We got another hour left. If there's anything you guys want to cover, we can go for another hour. We can also call it a day, depending on what you guys are doing on this Easter Sunday.

3:02:14K InhouseYeah, I'm going to have to run, guys. I appreciate you guys having me and everything. Marcus, it's been great to see you again. Next time you're in town, let's definitely link, okay?

3:02:21BubblemanYeah, absolutely, Kay. We will make that happen. We'll have you by the reserve and we'll figure out how we can come up with some cool collaboration for Bubble Man Brand and in-house.

3:02:32K InhouseYeah.

3:02:33BubblemanYeah. Anybody here?

3:02:34SpeakerOkay. Okay. You're invited on Tuesday. Matt's going to come by. Anyone on the panel, just hit me up and I'll get you details. If you want to come by for a session on Tuesday, I think we're going to do it at five.

3:02:44K InhouseOkay. Sounds good, dude. I appreciate that.

3:02:48SpeakerMuch love.

3:02:48K InhouseAll right. Bye. Later, guys.

3:02:51SpeakerLater.

3:02:52BubblemanAll right, I'm down for hanging out for a little bit more and puffing some more dabs and watching Skully. Like, I'm really enjoying watching this picture come to life, actually. I like that he's, oh my God, dude, holy shit, actually.

3:03:05SpeakerWhat the fuck? Skully's is an absolute mastermind. Skully, are you going to be there on Tuesday? Really cool. I've been kind of distracted watching it. You're doing a great job, dude. I love it. Dude, I'm going to try to. I share a car with my wife, so I got to check with her and see what she's doing, but I'll let you know. I can come pick you up.

3:03:24SpeakerI want to stop by. Okay, hell yeah, dude. We'll coordinate. No, let's do it.

3:03:32SpeakerYou got me jealous. I know. I'm trying, Marcus. Eye for an eye, brother. Fuck it. I'm going to Whistler. I know. I'm just joking.

3:03:43BubblemanOh, my God. How about some new things on the horizon in regards to cultivars, Stuart? You got some new flavor profiles in the horizon?

3:03:52SpeakerOh, yeah. Yeah. No, we're about to pop a bunch of seeds for the summer season, but we've got a lot of things going on just trying to figure out what to run for, you know, the next projects and everything from breeding to, you know, what we're trying to grow for production. I think me and Jack are going to do a little... Uh, another greenhouse that's just going to be pretty much dedicated to, uh, uh, Skittles, the original Skittles cut and do it up here at 9,000 feet and kind of really try to dial.

3:04:22SpeakerWe did a small test batch of that last, uh, last summer and did, uh, you know, washed it. And that was the first time I've actually ever grown the original Skittles cut. So, um, that's one of the projects I'm, uh, you know, Cowboy Kush is, you know, kind of been. One of the varieties that I've worked with and bred with, you know, the most over the last 10 years, doing back cross projects.

3:04:48SpeakerAnd I actually acquired, finally, I have a pack, original pack of the F2, of the Cowboy so I can make F2s. Because I spent, you know, last four or five years making the back cross to BX3. Um, cause I didn't have mail, uh, you know, that I could use of the original cowboy. So that is something that I definitely wanna do is pop that. And then, um, I'm gonna, uh, also run a bunch, you know, some of my past here, and then I've got a full, uh, lineup out of the fridge.

3:05:20SpeakerI gotta thin it down because again, you know, we're limited at space. Um, you know, being, uh, growing mainly inside, uh, you know, I only have a couple smaller. Flower rooms and then a couple, you know, tents that I use for testing and breeding. And then I have a greenhouse that I can actually grow year round. I'm up again up at 9,200 feet. So it gets really gnarly in the winter.

3:05:45SpeakerYou got to, I got really into building these custom greenhouses. And so I could grow under the sun up here. But that that's also why I have a lot of these cush varieties like Bubba Kush, Blackberry, Um, and Brett a lot with these like Afghans, cause they perform well up here. Um, you can even pull things off, uh, full term, um, if you can avoid hail damage with the right genetics up here.

3:06:13SpeakerSo, um, yeah, uh, I'll probably, uh, yeah, try to do that cowboy project. Um, yeah, really looking forward to trying to dial in Skittles. I mean, it's kind of a grower's challenge plant in itself. Um, So that'll be fun where we got plans to really try to dial it. It's such intense sun up here and we're going to do a lot more shade cloth and, and really try to, you know, make sure that the environment for, you know, doing a full term run up at this elevation, um, that we're, you know, trying to dial in that resin of the Skittles and really see how it expresses, um, you know, in this environment.

3:06:52SpeakerSo that's some of the projects that we'll be working on, but, um, Yeah, I'm always like it's I got to be semi-focused. It's I spread myself sometimes thin with between like breeding projects and and then also making sure that, you know, we're focused on production. And, you know, I had to reel myself in a little bit this last year. The amount of varieties I was putting in my production rooms.

3:07:21SpeakerI mean, we gained a ton of data and that's why, you know, when I saw you, when you came to Denver, you know, we had like 16, 17 different individual jars of, you know, and that's all from small washes and growing a ton of different diverse, you know, varieties and seeing how they come out and, you know, both to see how they work in our production mode and in our situation, but also with the market.

3:07:46SpeakerAnd, you know, so it gives, it gives you a lot of, Important data, but I've had, you know, just for my own time and, you know, making sure to be efficient with everything. I've had to kind of tighten in the production. So yeah, a lot of, a lot of plans, a lot of projects. Hopefully, yeah, it'll be a pretty busy summer for, for the boys.

3:08:09BubblemanWell, remember what they say, give weed an inch and it will take the whole yard.

3:08:17BubblemanThat's right, my man.

3:08:19SpeakerWe're about to mix up some yards of soil here, so I can get behind that.

3:08:24BubblemanOh, there we go. And what's the trick? When you say dial in, are you looking to get a nice, greasy, wet resin? Are people really that focused on a wetter resin versus a drier resin versus a whatever resin if it has the flavor and the potency and everything is there? Do you guys...

3:08:50SpeakerI mean, I think most commonly it's, and it's, that's why there's unicorns, things like black maple that do good. And, but they're, you know, like water, very six star across pretty much every micron, the hash comes out phenomenal and it yields well. You know, there's a few varieties that do that, especially the sour OG chems, you know, so a lot of times you're giving up some yield for better quality though, is generally what I see.

3:09:16SpeakerI mean, GMO dumps a bunch, but it's really hard for it to be very wet in a cold cure, which doesn't mean it's, you know, I personally enjoy Chem D and I like, you know, there is like, if you're become more educated, it's not necessarily the end all be all, obviously things just being a wet resin. But in the market that we're in and generally the best quality and the varieties that I really go for that, you know, So, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

3:10:10SpeakerI think a lot of people selected away or pushed away from that just because they don't like the grease, you know, the fact that it would maybe damage your bags, you'd have to clean that. But really, those are the varieties that you want to go after. It's this delicate bounce of like grease, you know, that very thin cuticle and the melt of the variety and how it pulls off the plant being able to have enough density of heads to where it's commercially viable.

3:10:36SpeakerAnd then the other agronomic traits of the plant as well.

3:10:39BubblemanThose are the cold room collectibles, right? There's an enormous group of people in the hash world who have built cold rooms who will never have hash of that quality that don't even need the cold room because the reactor itself is cold enough. It's really only when you pull the bags out of the water Thank you so much.

3:11:27BubblemanIt's something else. But to me, for hash like that, you know, have your have your reactor, your collection bag reactor, you know, have a bunch of ice in the bottom with some water. So it's creating that thermocline around the stainless and then just be able to wheel that into a much smaller closet style cold room that you just need to collect the hash, clean the bags. And maybe, you know, if you don't, you know, I was watching, I think it was Simpson, Samson, whatever his name is, do the sundial guy.

3:11:58BubblemanHe was saying he doesn't even ever like he he freezes his bags after rinsing them so that they can't like if there is any resin in there, it's not going to like grease out. So he just is always using frozen bags. And I thought that's that's pretty good for an OCD hash maker. If you've got the space to just keep your bags frozen. For the rest of us, I always thought extremely cold water, rinsing it really well, not allowing it to be sitting out at a warmer temperature for any amount of time.

3:12:29BubblemanAnd my bags always stayed clean for many, many years.

3:12:32Speaker100%. Yeah, as long as you can keep the hash in cold water, you can get away with your environment, you know, or work very quickly in freezers. I didn't have a proper cold room for years and, you know, and working with very greasy varieties and we made it work. You just got to be, you know, work quickly. Yeah. Get the hash off the bags and keep things in cold water and ice when you can.

3:12:57BubblemanDude, I used to make full melt with a cake mixer. A cake mixer. Like 18 bucks at Walmart. Brushing the full, the six star like out like nobody's business. Like I truly remember doing that. And it's just so crazy. Because of course, now we have all these beautiful, beautiful companies doing amazing work and engineering feats of epicness for hash making. But boy, that cake mixer was pretty good in its time.

3:13:30BubblemanI also appreciated the cake mixer for its portability. You know, it was only my shock and awe when I went to Jamaica and I pulled up my cake mixer and the guy had little mountain of weed. And I was like, all right, let's mix this up. I said, where's the plug? And he looks at me and he goes, no current mon. And I'm like, no current mon.

3:13:52BubblemanI'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, there's no... And in his defense, I must have been out of my mind to think that there was, because we had just walked into the bush for like two hours carrying ice on our heads with Wally Duck and Gypsy Nirvana and a couple of other characters. We filmed an episode of... international canagraphic on this day and also it was a magazine article that that was a that he created a magazine with so when you bought the magazine you got the article but you also got a dvd inside the The front page of the magazine.

3:14:28BubblemanAnd that DVD was us making Bubble Hash in Jamaica in the middle of nowhere. And I think in that video, I asked the guy where to plug the mixer in. In the end, we ended up breaking a piece of wood down and turning it into a paddle and Thank you for watching.

3:15:08BubblemanThat I had already made in Jamaica, not the hash that we were making at the time. Don't get me wrong. The hash was still on an exceptional level for 90% of people. It just wasn't, you know, what you would call, man, you should call your place the 90 you reserve.

3:15:29SpeakerWe've discussed this. I'm open to that a hundred percent. I just want to, I want to make it to where it's easy for people to remember. That's it. So, I mean, even naming it 90U or having a floor 90U, you know, the top floor, there's a lot of ways to do it. But yeah, I mean, it is the 90U of spots. Let's put it that way.

3:15:50BubblemanRight, so no VIP, it's 90U. You know the 90U? The 90U.

3:15:57SpeakerYeah, it's reserved for the people that appreciate it.

3:16:02BubblemanShit, dude, I've been waiting. I've been waiting for the church to come in. I see some churchy shit. I see some churchy shit.

3:16:11SpeakerDude, so Skully's doing, I guess, what is it, Skully? Like a six foot, like mural or something at the top of the stairs. So when you get up the stairs from the pool table floor to the second floor, as soon as you walk up, you're going to see a huge Skully custom mural on the wall. Dude, that is awesome. That is awesome. So we're going to, him and I.

3:16:32BubblemanHow's he going to go about doing that? Is he going to come experience a couple of gatherings there to get the feel and the people and the characters and.

3:16:41SpeakerI think we have an idea. I mean, I had a vision, right? And I presented it to him when we had our meeting. And I was looking more for like a castle downtown hash, you know, vibe. And he has a lot of art that I looked at on Instagram that I used as like kind of an inspiration for my vision. But What I'm getting at now is that on Tuesday, we're going to kind of custom brainstorm involving a lot of the people that are already in Denver in the mural.

3:17:12SpeakerRight. So like Matt or Portal or Stuart or Kay from in-house or, you know, any of the people like Nick at T and figuring out how to make this, you know, very much a Denver thing. Like it. Well, obviously, Bubble Man, you'll be in there too.

3:17:29BubblemanI can be in through bags because bubble bags are very much a Denver thing. People, you know, when you think of a lot of these brands and a lot of the hash that was made in the early days and still to this day, a ton of that hash was made with bubble bags. So we always represent regardless of where we are. But I like that. That's a nice vision.

3:17:51SpeakerI mean, Skully, you can talk more. You're the artist. I'm just somebody who hasn't had an idea that you're able to execute. So I don't want to speak for you. No, no, for sure. I like the idea so far. I've been really stoked on doing some sort of like medieval style to kind of accentuate the space and stuff. It's got like cool kind of rustic like machine shop stuff from like the past that I want to try and incorporate.

3:18:15SpeakerThat's pretty cool. I don't know. It's a really interesting spot. It's like kind of cool historic Denver. I have never seen anything like that spot. Truthfully, it's like one of a kind.

3:18:26BubblemanYeah, it definitely is. Shout out to Space and Corpy. I see the six stars above the steeple on the picture there. And that six star, that was Space and Corpy, the Bizarre Brothers, in fact. Who came up with the star rating? We should always shout them out for their part. True bubble ambassadors back in the day. Probably the first dudes that I saw using like hundred gallon mixers and like pulling out like some pretty crazy quality.

3:18:54BubblemanYou know, there was a time where everyone thought That you couldn't make a lot at once, that it was limited, that it was only a, you know, it's a craft thing. You can only make a little bit at a time. And that is just absolutely not the case. I showed this last time. It's dark because I melted it so hard today, but really beautiful quality full melt bubble.

3:19:21BubblemanAnd we have like 44 kilos of this braid right here.

3:19:26SpeakerIs that when you were smoking on the chairlift yesterday or on the Whistler? Yeah, dude, out of the new core, right?

3:19:33BubblemanDude, this thing is insane. First of all, how the fuck? Why does it hit so much harder than the proxy? It is a proxy.

3:19:46SpeakerAnd they just dialed it, I think, man.

3:19:49BubblemanFor those of you that don't know, they took a proxy and they just put it in this little like composite piece that's quite hard. And it just shuts off the bowl, which is here. This is the part that you would normally suck from here into the pipe and out the mouthpiece and into your lungs. But this, you're pinching it off. So now you can't do that anymore.

3:20:12BubblemanNow you're just hitting the mouthpiece. Now I heard all sorts of people say, oh, you suck oil up from in here. There's a bead in there too. I'm not sure if you guys can see it, a little pearl. I got a little little ruby pearl in there. Anyway, I guess inside the mouthpiece, it splits both ways and it creates that pearl to spin really, really well. I wasn't overfilling it by any means, but I definitely found it to be very useful.

3:20:38BubblemanThe battery never even came close to dying. I brought it out on full and I hit it about maybe four or five times. I filled it four or five times. And I got to say, like, It's wild how engineering could change something like this to this and then suddenly have it like, I'm telling you, this thing hits like I don't even know how. It's got to be at least a two to three X more than what I get out of the proxy by itself.

3:21:10BubblemanLike I was blasting out massive. I've also got a shout out that I've been really enjoying the link, putting the link into my into my mothership. And, you know, if I'm here. I appreciate the universal heater. It's my favorite with my quartz banger. But if I'm watching a movie or something and I can still hit my piece with, you know, the link, I just appreciate.

3:21:33SpeakerYou know how convenient it has been to just sit here and rip hash without having to like mute myself or do what I want.

3:21:39BubblemanIt's the best thing ever. Dude.

3:21:42SpeakerI know I've seen like some mixed responses to this thing online, but like.

3:21:46BubblemanI don't think those people have been using them correctly, dude. It's just been super chill for me.

3:21:51SpeakerWell, and with me, like I have the reserve, right? And the reserve is built in 1892. The construction is all, you know, original wood beams, just a beautiful space. Tons, probably 10,000 square feet or more of wood floors. If there's a fire from, you know, a torch and, you know, a banger basket or, you know, like we've seen at events in the past year, it is nothing.

3:22:15SpeakerThere's no coming back from that. So the link is actually not only a convenience and such a cool thing, but it's such a safety measure as far as my space and being able to have, you know, not every, don't get me wrong, people will be using torches and bangers, but for the people that just aren't really familiar with it, like you have to have the links, you have to.

3:22:37BubblemanYou can have universal heaters as well, and you can have disorderly conduct. There's other ways without involving the torch. The torch is a good thing to phase out if you can. For sure. I couldn't agree more because like, I don't think it goes along with a nice dinner. That's for sure.

3:22:54SpeakerJust like, well, it doesn't go along with the old school upper echelon vibes of like, think of like the highest end, like billionaire liquor parties, right. Or wine mixers or whatever, wherever nobody, everybody is at the highest end. Nobody's carrying a torch around. Um, and unless it's like, you know, it's just flames from some flan or creme brulee or something.

3:23:13BubblemanYeah. Oh,

3:23:15SpeakerIndeed.

3:23:16BubblemanWell, either way, I couldn't believe how convenient this thing was on the mountain. I think I liked it much more than the pivot for on mountain activity. It's also not too solid, but solid enough that you feel it in your pocket. So you don't always have to be like, Kind of like doing the like, oh, where is it? Because I do tend to move my stuff around my pockets just in order to torture myself.

3:23:39BubblemanI also like to like leave some zippers open and some zippers closed like an idiot. So then I'm like even having more heart attacks on the mountain, worried that I've lost all my shit. I see, I see Skully smiling. He's done it.

3:23:54SpeakerDude, I've lost my car keys once. I like drove out with my friend and it's like snowing and we're having the best day and it's like 3.30. They're like going to shut off the lift soon. We're like, all right, all right, let's head down. We like go down. I'm like, dude, I don't have my freaking car keys anymore. My pocket is just unzipped. Thank you for watching.

3:24:35SpeakerYou found your keys? Dude, we found my keys on the mountain, which is still the most unbelievable part, and then drove all the way back home in relative silence and a realization that, yeah, I would have been totally fucked.

3:24:47BubblemanThat's got to be one of the second most impressive things ever. I always will have to give it to my good friend Tony back in the day when he went back to the mud field tripping on acid to find the piece of hash that we dropped and came back with the piece of hash. Excellent. That was a level of like, I don't even know what, you know, like of all the people to send into the field, why would we have sent him first of all?

3:25:15SpeakerBut maybe it was a superpower.

3:25:18BubblemanSometimes it's just meant to be. Sometimes it is just meant to be. Yeah, this is great, man. This is really fun. Just coming together, putting all these, it's so neat how you can incorporate so much of the culture with, you know, the equipment and the tools and the pipes and the holy shit.

3:25:36SpeakerYeah, thanks. I was trying to get like a little bit of a bunch of the stuff that we talked about. And mostly like, I don't know, the trials and tribulations of making good hash and all the struggle and, you know, some of the some of the community getting to share it with people. Getting to try it for the first time, some of the different forms. I think I maybe went a little crazy.

3:26:01SpeakerI had to do a little too much in, but I'm almost done with the lines. Let's add some color here. I still got a little bit of time.

3:26:08BubblemanBeautiful.

3:26:08SpeakerYou know, Skully, what I'd like to do with this with Bubble Man's approval, of course, is we should put this as the episode and then sell limited edition prints at the Reserve. Oh yeah, absolutely, man. I definitely want to make some prints of this and make them available for anybody that wants them, for sure.

3:26:27BubblemanYeah, absolutely. That's super cool. Fuck. That is a super cool original.

3:26:35SpeakerI mean, glass art, you know, painting art, the highest end hash, the highest end food, the highest end people. We're doing it, guys. I mean, we're going to create something that hasn't been created. And I'm not, you know, I'm more motivated than ever of bringing all the right people together that this is going to be an absolute game changing home run for hash and setting the precedent for what the highest end hash environment looks like.

3:27:05BubblemanHell yeah. Sorry, I was just typing. It's funny. Sometimes the odd time, I'm pretty good, but the odd time you guys will stop talking before I assumed you would stop talking. And then I'm like, it's okay. Someone else will talk. They won't let it be an awkward silence and have me looking like a total asshole on my own show. I'm just joking.

3:27:27SpeakerIt's awesome. Awesome. And trust me, I mean, they're going to get a lot of people like Dread who are OGs that come out of the woodwork for something like this, right? They've been waiting for something that brings the culture together in a way that is tight knit. And I couldn't be more stoked to involve all you guys in this and put Colorado back on Thank you so much for joining us.

3:28:07SpeakerIf anyone's watching this that's in Colorado that's also in hash, feel free to reach out and I'd love to talk to you about involving you and really making this a big thing for Denver.

3:28:18BubblemanAnd there's got to be a website that people can kind of link up with or an Instagram or some socials too.

3:28:24SpeakerWell, I'm going to announce all that. My Instagram right now, I'm going to be transferring over to the reserve just because the hemp laws here are going to be changing. And then I do have a website that is pretty much done that I'm not going to release until we're ready to start announcing the first events, which should be within the next two to four weeks, Max. Word.

3:28:43SpeakerWord.

3:28:46BubblemanI did not hear back from Levi, but we are in the talks as well, just for a small bubble man course that we're going to be potentially doing at Low Temp in Denver, which of course I want to involve the reserve with as well, possibly a little gathering afterwards, maybe even a live hash church there. But yeah, this would be a course that we're going to offer between a collaboration between Low Temp and myself.

3:29:17BubblemanAnd so, yeah, you can reach out to them and ask them about that. And we're going to start moving that forward here. I think even tomorrow we'll be having one of our first conversations to really like solidify, although Levi and I have had a few conversations about it and we're, we're both in agreeance that it's going to happen. I'm really excited to come there and, and do that.

3:29:37BubblemanIn fact, what I'd really like to do prior to this, um, I'd love to come mix up a batch with Stuart and Jack, if possible. And I'd love to maybe get in and mix up a batch with the in-house team on their Osprey. And then I'm going to go down to Moffitt. And I'm going to wash some in our ospreys at the Bubble Man 111 lab down there with Daniel.

3:30:05BubblemanSo I like the idea of washing a bunch. I've used ospreys in the past, but I want to make sure that I bring some good value specifically to washing with ospreys. And then of course, uh, yeah, should just be good chock full of historical context and the history of, of at least my story and my hash journey. And, uh, Give a giveaway as many techniques and sort of tricks and understanding.

3:30:34BubblemanI guess at this point in time, the real trick to hash making is understanding that you have to specialize in nuances and that you have to specialize in understanding a resin that constantly changes. And the more you think it doesn't, the more it will. So yeah, don't make the hash bend the knee. I always bend the knee to the hash. That's my mission. So I'm excited. That's going to be in May.

3:31:00SpeakerAnd we're going to do some stuff around the reserve with it too. We just don't know the details. I'm telling you now that when Marcus is in town, we're going to be, it's going to be the 90U.

3:31:10BubblemanI'm there. I'm there. As you told me the second time I came to Denver, he's like, pulls me aside. He's like, listen, man, you are not staying at an Airbnb or a hotel ever again. I'm like, all right.

3:31:25SpeakerYeah, right. I stand on that. All right. I'm, I'm, Thank you. You already know. And, you know, like I said, guys, I'm more than excited. I know that I've said it a million times, but Nickatee's in the chat. He's a huge part of this as well. Bike, someone mentioned Bike in the chat. Bike is an OG here in Colorado, and he's very involved as well. He's just having an issue with his car right now.

3:31:51SpeakerSo I might have to go pick him up too, Skully, just to make sure that Bike can be there. Nice. Hell yeah.

3:31:58BubblemanThat's what's up. Well, maybe one more dab. Maybe I'll... You can't hit this thing when it's like... Although I'll tell you, it hits that good that I was just considering hitting this instead of my rig with my banger. But of course... Not a crazy person. We'll hit my rig, my banger. And shout out to Brian from D-Nail because the fucking universal heater, dude, it's just quiet. It doesn't make a sound.

3:32:24BubblemanI've got it in a place where I never burn myself. I don't reach over it. I don't rookie move out on it. And it is just continually, I think it takes about 45 seconds to heat up.

3:32:37BubblemanMy banger up with this. The only thing is the other thing I like about it because it heats it up kind of, you know, when you first put it in cold from slow, it warms up. If you've left anything behind on the banger, it'll start smoking gently. And if you catch it right away, you can you can do another dunk and clean it better and make sure the next time you heat it that you're not caking resin into the tool.

3:33:03BubblemanInto the banger, sorry. All right, here we go. Another another rip. Do another rip while Skully is getting ready to. Oh, God, the texture on this is just incredible. It's it's like just like taffy. It's a it's a it's a taffy like texture. Quite lovely.

3:33:28SpeakerWhat's the variety, Marcus?

3:33:30BubblemanThis variety is called Bubble Up. And what we're going to have to do real quick is we're going to have to do a little Google search on what that cannabis strain is. Indica dominant for sure. I knew that. It's very gassy.

3:33:54BubblemanIt produced by tribal on a canary and it was bred by exotic genetics by crossing soap with deluxe.

3:34:03BubblemanSo Yeah. Caryophylline, Farnesine, which is a unique one. Limonene and Linalool are sort of the tops. It's definitely a creeper in the sense that it's strong and it hits you like after you've hit it. But yeah, Deluxe crossed with Zope. Nice.

3:34:27BubblemanLet's find out what Deluxe is because OG Deluxe. So it's an OG.

3:34:35BubblemanMade from genetic cross between OGKB and Triangle Kush. So that's what the deluxe is.

3:34:42SpeakerI have a question for Stuart Terps over yields and portal. As far as genetics and stuff that you guys are running right now or stuff that's coming out as far as the market, what are you guys most excited about?

3:34:56SpeakerFor me personally, I mean, I might set a collab and I've been working on this Oishi line. It's like a flavor pack mumbo from Archive. It's got like a cushy Z vibe and I've been really working with that one and we just did a, I gave him male pollen and he put it on all his selections. So I'm looking forward to popping those kind of some exclusive things that We'll have that no one else will really have and a couple other things too, but I'm really excited about the new Oishi lines we are doing.

3:35:28SpeakerLove that, man. Can't wait to try some of that.

3:35:34SpeakerI've been popping a lot of stuff from Terp Fountain Genetics lately. I'm really, really pleased with those. I'm about to pop some Sandia Azul from him as well. And then the other thing that I'm Really excited about right now. I think Marcus has had Johnny on in the past from Huckleberry Hill Farms. Absolutely. So Johnny's partner Rose is a really old friend of mine. We've known each other for like over 10 years.

3:36:03SpeakerAnd so we've been in touch here and there. And we're doing a collaboration between the two of them where I'm actually going to grow Their new strain that they're dropping this season, Dawn Patrol, which is White Thorn Rose crossed to riddles. So I'll be growing that in like indoor living soil beds and washing it and doing a collaborative release with them. And that's probably one of the coolest things that I've got going on so far this year.

3:36:32BubblemanWell, dude, that sounds like I want to be a part of it by smoking it.

3:36:37SpeakerI got you. I got you covered.

3:36:39BubblemanThe reserve, baby. That's what's up. That's what's up. I love to hear that. By the way, I wanted to finish up on the bubble up because I had no idea what Zope was. But Zope is Rainbow Sherbert and Pink Guava, which is bred by Deal Farms of Oakland.

3:36:55SpeakerSo this bubble up is fire, bro. I ran it like two years ago. Super, super fire. And Stuart, I wanted to hear from you too. I didn't mean to interrupt. Oh, no, you're all good. Probably the, maybe the cowboy champagne, which is, uh, I just made a small, small batch of seeds of that this fall. Um, and that's, uh, the champagne across to the cowboy, uh, cush, uh, uh, back cross one male.

3:37:22SpeakerUm, so that'll be like a gassy, like, uh, earthy, um, you know, with the papaya, I'm just interested to see if, uh, I can find something in there that, you know, blends those two worlds. So, um, Yeah, that's one of the varieties I'm really stoked of my work to hunt through. And Champio was one of my favorites from the last year. Also the Gary Payton. I hope to, yeah, do some projects with that.

3:37:49SpeakerThat's, that's one of my favorites as far as a hype, you know, cultivar that I just am in love with that resin. Yeah, the Gary's Special, man. That's, I mean, it's funny because a lot of people hate on it, but it's this really unique gas that you don't get from the traditional OGs. Yeah, it's pining dominant. It's got, it's like this, it's very complex. Similarly, like Oishi is another one of my favorites.

3:38:17SpeakerThe Variety Jack is talking about because it's got this mix of Z and Kush, almost like pure Kush Poo-Pourri. And Obviously Gary's different. It's almost like a menagerie of cookies and gas and like, um, but it has that complexity and depth. And then just the resin quality is, you know, she might not be the craziest yielder, although me and Jack just watched a batch of it and it got, um, what did it melt?

3:38:44SpeakerYeah. So Jack has a nice Osprey set up. I don't have a, uh, It's nice of a lot or, you know, that washer, you know, definitely you can get, um, I'm seeing better yields, you know, already with that. And then we watched the, the, the limosa as well. But yeah, the Gary is special, um, profile as far as its depth. Um, you know, again, that's some of the attributes that I, you know, I think we really try to search for now.

3:39:13SpeakerIt's just the flavor translation and just the complexity and it really lingering on the palate. And Oishi, you know, Gary Payton, Black Maple, you know, these are some really complex varieties and really check every box with their resin and their profile. And it's crazy, Stuart, because there's people that will run the same cut. And, you know, on the Jug Dealers podcast, Garen or Jaren and Gabe, they say a lot, you know, phenotype equals genotype times environment, right?

3:39:46SpeakerSo basically, when you have all the same cuts, but you have different people running different lights and different nutrients or different living soil, you know, different PPFD, different, you know, everything, you end up with a totally different We'll see you next time.

3:40:27SpeakerAnd that's that's one of those that I wouldn't even switch out portal just because it's so good dude just keep it on the menu. No that's not one of the ones that would get moved around for me it's ones like to like maybe like circle back to one of the older conversations from the shows like you know Kay was dogging hard on pheno hunting and all that and it is super important it's uh it's tough sometimes like how do you say like Right.

3:40:55SpeakerLike, so I have super booth and black maple and things that maybe are like not, they're more commonplace. Right. But done really well and expressed really well. They're still valid cultivars. They may also be somewhat overproduced in this time period, but it doesn't necessarily like invalidate them totally as well as like, you know, when you're, The consequences are always there regardless of scale. You can absorb it more easily the bigger you are at scale, but to run cultivars that are only yielding 2% or 3% to resin before you press them to rosin is like the way that you can do that is by running other things that do 5% and 6% that maybe like are not so rare or something, but if you're doing them excellent and they produce a good product, it can help I don't know if you want to like say float the boat or whatever, just to like absorb the impact of running really low yielding cultivars.

3:41:57SpeakerLike I'm really excited to see what Jack does with his Oishi line that he's been working on because Oishi is super incredible. In my opinion, I have a friend, a friend of mine gifted me a cut of his Oishi that I think is super excellent. Shout out the homie Aurea in Minnesota, but like his cut only yields like 2%. Like,

3:42:21SpeakerYou know, like, and Jack's yields higher than that, right? But, like, I can justify... Jack, so don't get a... Those yields are way higher, but, like... But yeah, like this one, you know, like I can justify running it if I can do a little bit of something else. But like, it's been my goal for a long time to have my menu be almost completely full of things that I've, you know, hunted or, you know, hunted with friends or I'm like one person removed from having a unique cut, which is the case with that peach maraschino.

3:42:52SpeakerAnd, you know, I think I'm like, this most recent drop was like, you know, say 75% of the way there because I ran... Have you ran any of her other stuff like the Straw Electric Lemonade or any of the newer seed runs she's done? I'd be curious how those wash if anyone here has ran any of them. They're really neat. I'd be curious to see more of her new stuff.

3:43:19SpeakerIt's... Hard to come across in a particular way. Well, Gabe from 5.8 and Jug Dealers, he is very good friends with her and gets, he's given like a sample of pretty much all the stuff that they release. And, you know, when I went to smell some of those jars at 5.8, I was like, dude, this is, Thank you for joining us. We'll be right back.

3:43:54SpeakerSo that's why I really like their gear is because you're finding things that are very specific to exactly what the flavor is that they're pushing on the pack. I don't really love that you don't know the exact genetic lineage of it, but other than that, I mean, I think that's one of those unique standing points in the industry where a lot of us are flavor chasers and being able to have those unique flavors like you have, Portal, and You know, Terps Over Yields and Stuart and Kay from in-house, like that's what makes us all unique, right?

3:44:21SpeakerIs having these very specific, like, like Portal, you have that red, what was it? The red, I was like, this smells like the red pop. The pebbles, the lemons, or the smoothie. No, I think you're talking about the red pebbles. Those are all from that guy, Terp Fountain that I mentioned earlier. And, you know, like they're all using the same. Red Pie Guys and Mail, shout out to Andrew, doing a great job with unique and interesting terps.

3:44:46SpeakerBut yeah, I think just like keeping stuff like that in rotation and like bringing new flavors is super important when you're trying to reach like, you know, I think you keep calling it like that upper echelon or whatever people want new things. And yeah, I would not get rid of the peach From my menu, there's no reason to do that yet, but I could let, you know, the super booth and certain other things fall off a little bit because there's more interesting things to be found for sure.

3:45:22SpeakerYeah, I mean, right now, events are full spec, right? Like, we're not doing a full spec line. Our events are 90U. We're taking the whole industry and we're running them through the bubble bags and we're taking that 90, you know, 90 bag first, you know, first pass and we're taking that and that's what we're cultivating for. So, and as you know, that's, that's, Those are the people that are really doing it right is the people that really care and live by hash and live by genetics.

3:45:49SpeakerAnd that's what I live for. So I want more people around me like that.

3:45:54BubblemanAnd shout out to people who like the real 73, which is before I added the 90 micron. The 90 micron bag was the last bag that I added to the bubble bag kit. There was no 90 micron bag in the world of water extraction. It was the last one. It took the kit from a seven bag to an eight bag. And then I stopped adding. Numbers, because it was going to get insane, but that bag did make a big difference.

3:46:24BubblemanI still am always stoked on the 73 as well as well as the 90. But yeah, the 90 bag was probably the most profound bag. Well, in a different way. The 160 was a profound bag because it pulled contaminant out of the bags that... Was ending up in the nicer hash down the road, like in the 120 or God forbid the 73, if you were using like four bags, like a 220, a 160, a 73, and maybe you weren't even collecting the 25, a 45.

3:47:02BubblemanI collect them all myself. My 25 often.

3:47:07SpeakerMarcus, what year was that that you put out the 90?

3:47:14BubblemanI mean... Maybe 2005?

3:47:17SpeakerEpic. Wow, 20 years later, we're getting the 90U for events, so. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

3:47:27BubblemanI always said that. When I opened my gallery, I was like, I want this to be like the Full Melt gallery. I want it to be like Full Melt food, Full Melt people, Full Melt vibes, Full Melt music. Like, that's what we wanted it to be.

3:47:44SpeakerOh, man, dude. So I actually messaged bike on the side and he's like, yeah, little do you know, I'm doing Marcus's hash church website. Here's the thing. Here's the password. Good work, bike. This looks awesome. Dude, isn't it cool? Fuck yeah.

3:47:59BubblemanDude, he's going to help aggregate all this hash church data from the past. In a way that people can search it and come up with and find the episodes they're looking for just by searching a subject or a person or, you know, whatever. So it's a pretty big deal.

3:48:19SpeakerI don't know why, bike is everywhere, man. And it's so great because this is coming full circle Colorado. Like a bike, I remember doing the John Doe radio show with bike in like 2014 and 2015 with Tim Martin. And it was just a different world, man. It's hard to explain. Like, you know, when I say we've fallen off, we haven't really, it's not really falling off. It's just other people have taken our place.

3:48:43SpeakerAnd I'm not here for that. I want to see Colorado be where we were at and all the people were connected. And man, I'm stoked. This is going to be so great. You got all the right people, Marcus.

3:48:56BubblemanYeah, apparently so. I don't know how that all came into being. But yeah, he's saying it's live. Hashchurch.org. I mean, I'm seeing it. That's true.

3:49:04SpeakerThere it is. He did great work, man. Shout out to bike wax gang.

3:49:11BubblemanYeah.

3:49:16BubblemanInteresting. Interesting. Well, cool. I'm getting all sucked down the rabbit hole also of Skully's drawing is pretty insane.

3:49:29Etienne FontanYeah, watching the colors come together now. Yeah, it's so sweet. It's coming out too. That's why I did the gray in the background, the white pop in the front. We're gonna have to hang out till this completes, man.

3:49:40BubblemanI can't just like go away.

3:49:42SpeakerLittle did Skully know this was his test for the reserve to do a custom poster for each event that we do.

3:49:48BubblemanHe's just like, I know what I'll do. I'll just draw 400 different complex intertwining things over the course of a mountain scale with a making everything they're talking about. What a crazy, awesome experience, dude. I don't rush by any means, but I'm definitely going to hang out and watch you. Watch more of this because I find having it open on YouTube is a better way to watch it than having it open in my Zoom screen.

3:50:18BubblemanSo that's what I've got going on. I can see the chat that way as well. We've got a good chat, live chat. There's always a chat going on in here. It's like, yeah, smoke a bowl.

3:50:35BubblemanOh, it's only for testing. Only for a test. Okay, okay. I'll take it down until it's done. Whatever. It looks good to me, man. Testing is good. See if it works. Check it out. Aggregate that data. Be able to search the last 12 years of HashChurch, being able to just go on there and search. You know, so many people ask me all the time, hey, remember that thing you guys talked about or that person or that concept?

3:50:59BubblemanAnd I'm just like, oof. I mean, I remember in the sense of like, yes, I was there and had the conversation. Do I attribute that conversation and correlate it to a season and a number of an episode? I do not. That is where I lose it. Yes. See, Jeffrey. So dope, Skully, he's saying in the chat room. I said to Jeffrey from the Press Club that he's got to link up with Skully.

3:51:35BubblemanThey promote artists. They do cool collaborations. And I think the Press Club and Skully Vibes is a good collaboration. So if you don't know them already, Skully, I will give you his number. And if you do know him already, then disregard.

3:51:52SpeakerNo, yeah, please do. Yeah, Press Club is the best, man. I use their paper and I've used them for a long time. They're probably three, four years.

3:52:01BubblemanYeah, they're a big sponsor at Hash Church. We love them. They've lined me up with their new double bags, which definitely when you're commercially pressing rosin, And you're worried about blowouts, you're going to double up your bags. And it does take time to put those bags inside of one another. If you can buy them and have them already doubled up, it does save time. It seems like a small amount of time, but over the course of a year of someone like pressing rosin for five hours a day, five days a week, that adds up a substantial amount.

3:52:33SpeakerI've been experimenting with those double bags from Press Club and I really do like them. They're a game changer. That 120U on the outside of the 25 holds it in place and keeps it from slipping. I've done triple bagged and then double bagged and all sorts of ways and those are really good.

3:52:51BubblemanTotally agree. Smart. Makes sense. You nailed it with the 120 bag on the outside. A coarser bag by even just to feel. Yeah. And when the resin is coming out of that 25 bag on the inside, it just comes out of the 120 different. It doesn't make it slippery. The bag does hold into place.

3:53:16SpeakerI can press faster without risking blowout because usually I do double or triple 25U, but with their bags and... I've noticed I can squish lower and quicker and faster all at once. It's been really nice because normally I try and do like two to three minutes, depending how much is in the bag and the temperature. But I've been, it's been really cool experimenting, going at a much lower temp and getting it off the press quicker.

3:53:45SpeakerI definitely think it's making a higher quality product. Yeah.

3:53:49BubblemanAwesome. And have any of you guys tried low temps, new rosin press, the V4?

3:53:57SpeakerI've been going to like, like with me and Stuart's collab, we did the Gary Payton and I was pressing closer to like 140, 145 just because that was really greasy stuff and I've never... I've never been able to press that because I feel like, you know, I don't like to keep it on the press too long. I'm trying to get it squished and get it off. But I'm also trying to make sure that it's not too hot.

3:54:20SpeakerBut yeah, I've been trying to experiment with lower temperatures for sure. Definitely on the greasier stuff like 140 to 150. And it's been making a more stable rosin and definitely retains a lot more turps.

3:54:34BubblemanYeah, exactly. Obviously, it makes sense that the less time it spends on the plates heating up, the maybe more volatiles it will preserve. So I like omnidirectional. I've always liked omnidirectional. I'm not like a let's for I mean, I get it for Instagram and social media for the money shot to have like, you know, it's coming out the one direction you folded it all up. So all the rosin is coming over the whole plate and going out the I personally always preferred to have it come out the sides, the back and the front of my plates and get it off the plates.

3:55:12BubblemanUh, as soon as possible. But, um, the beautiful thing is that is really just the obsession part of what we do. Uh, and it becomes more, uh, subjective of what people prefer. So, I mean, if you're going to all the trouble already, you might as well do as many little things as possible in order to sort of preserve and maintain those volatile organic compounds, because I think at that point in time, that's really what this is about.

3:55:40BubblemanYou know, the cannabinoids are sort of this base, but like, you know, if any, if everyone just wanted those, they could get distillate for like a dollar 20 a gram. So it's like, what it really is, is it's cannabinoids mixed with these really high level, uh, volatile organic compound profiles that are, you know, files and phthalates and terpenes and terpenoids and aldehydes and esters and All of these incredible things that produce these profiles.

3:56:10BubblemanThat really is, to me, the future of cannabis extracts. That's what it is. If you have an appreciation for these Thank you so much for joining us.

3:56:50BubblemanThank you so much for joining us.

3:57:12BubblemanFrom like 07, 08, he was the first one to really talk about rosin. It didn't catch on. It wasn't until Soil Grown Phil hit the flower with the hair straightener and made that rosin. That was, I think we did a show in 2015, which would have been within three weeks of him doing it, maybe less. So...

3:57:36BubblemanYeah, we've gotten to be a part of it all. I wonder what the next part could possibly be. That's the thing I really look forward to is what next thing is. There's also been a rise and a jump in static. I should mention that. Having been someone that knew about that process for many, many years to see it now, Thank you so much for joining us.

3:58:17BubblemanI wonder, is it going to be one of these massive liquid nitrogen dry sifting units that reduces the resin off the field in fast amounts of time that you can then take that and go separate it mechanically, dry sift or wet wash it or extract it doing any other number? It would be cool if we got to a place You know, where resin was what we were starting with as our biomass, as our material.

3:58:48BubblemanI certainly would prefer the yields on that over flour, but... I always enjoy working with resin as my starting point. You know, like dry sift. You guys don't really see it. I didn't see dry sift being very big in the Colorado scene.

3:59:06SpeakerIs anyone fucking with... No, the only person doing dry sift that I've actually smoked here is Adam Dunn. And he does it the old school way. Remember I showed you the article the other day, the one with him and Beard Bros Farm, where he has the... Has the screen and it's probably 94, 95. And Adam's just sitting there, you know, doing his passion. And yeah, no, it's not something that's prevalent here.

3:59:31SpeakerI mean, I'd be curious to hear what you guys have to say as far as everyone else on here, but I haven't seen much at all.

3:59:38BubblemanNeed to change that. You guys make dry sift at all. You guys have nice material. Dry sift screens are just a great way to teach you about your resin. You know, you can get them right on your hands. It's like you're touching them.

3:59:51SpeakerI have screens, but I've never used them because I don't really dry any material. Like it's very, very, very rare that I have dried cut flour. Interesting. I haven't experimented either. I've seen people on the West Coast with their big fancy machines doing it. But no, I haven't really seen anyone in Colorado. I do want to experiment with the same here. Like we mostly just do fresh frozen.

4:00:24SpeakerWe used to do even like dry ice sift like a long time ago with, you know, just our trim and then not really clean it up as much. um but i would like to get some screens eventually and start doing some like air drying and stuff too of uh i haven't really experiment experimented as much with that um but yeah air dry and do some of that but also um you know but you don't you don't see it much around because yeah either people are drying for flour and they you know Then they're pushing their product towards like BHO extraction or something for the trim or, you know, or we're freezing everything and extracting whole plant fresh frozen out here.

4:01:13BubblemanYeah, you'd almost have to grow it for it. If you wanted to do that, someone would have to be like, we're planting this field. We're going to grow some beautiful resin heads and then we're going to dry it and we're going to sift the entire field.

4:01:29SpeakerIt's interesting with varieties that are more greasy and wet resin and haze and some of these ones that don't extract well in the water, you know, when you do dry them, then the resin becomes like workable and easier to isolate. So You know, I think dry sift would be like great for some of these varieties that, you know, already don't really meet the, you know, don't work well for the water process, but you could dry that material and then clean them up and make some really cool haze, dry sift and other stuff.

4:02:03BubblemanYeah, absolutely. We'll have to make sure we get more dry sifted hash there. We're doing our traditional hash, the brick hash and eventually the temple balls in Colorado for it's a dry sifted hash.

4:02:20SpeakerWell, you know what we're going to do, Marcus? I'm going to talk to Adam tomorrow, and we might do a dry sift something, whether it's a class or a demo, and then have Adam bring a bunch of his dry sift and his specific hash smoking pipe. So his dry sift pipe that was made by Jason Harris, you know, Jerome Baker. Um, glass and, and I want to, I want to explore that more because the highs that I get off of smoking Adam's hash pipe, uh, versus smoking rosin or any other, you know, modern extracts, uh, is totally different.

4:02:52SpeakerUh, and it's euphoric and it's, it's almost light. Uh, and it's, it's beautiful and it's hard to explain.

4:02:59BubblemanYeah, no, I, I know it. I've been smoking dry stuff for almost 30 years. So I, I, I love it when I have it. I'm very happy. I do have a little bit still. I used to sometimes I get lucky and I would make a lot for friends and then I would get a little piece of the lot that I made and I would be like, like even 10 or 20 grams of like pure dry comb heads that were dry sifted and properly aged and It's just like that process teaches you what plants are prepared to produce and fit into that chain versus the ones that just can't be.

4:03:36BubblemanAnd when you find the ones that can, it's quite a thing. And they just, they preserve themselves so perfectly in their own little resin heads. All you have to do is isolate them out. The process of static in particular, even just with the hand on the screen, Thank you so much for joining us.

4:04:19BubblemanBags melting out of, I've seen it. I saw it in Switzerland in the early 2000s at Breeders Steve's place. And I remember being very surprised that they all were like melty and bubbly. All from 190 to 25 micron. It was a shocker to say the least. This picture is coming together, bro.

4:04:48SpeakerI know, Skully is the goat. Oh yeah, thank you. I'm rushing trying to get it done.

4:04:54BubblemanDon't. No rush, man. Don't rush. I don't even have my kid here bugging me to leave, so he's probably out having fun. If he was standing at my door, I'd be like, I gotta go. But no, we can just continue on with our conversation about all things hash and all things Colorado and all things Skully Vibes.

4:05:20SpeakerI can't tell you how excited I am. Marcus, if you want to brainstorm or Stuart or Portal or Terps over Yield, if any of you guys want to brainstorm about things that we can incorporate into a Skully piece for the Denver scene, I'm open to all feedback.

4:05:38BubblemanOh, yeah. Jesus Christ, that is a very cool image. That's fun.

4:05:51BubblemanWhat a fun thing to just be able to do, you know, like I could totally picture Skully drawing all through school and not paying attention, but just having like wicked binders full of the craziest shit.

4:06:07Etienne FontanWell, that's the thing about they seem to forget that you can hear what's going on and still draw. I did the same thing. I got, I was in Catholic school and I used to get wrapped on the knuckles for drawing and all the corners and edges. I was, you know, usually daydreaming and bored. So, you know, I was able to create my own little worlds and own little, you know, by the time I was 15, I had like 300 different cartoon characters just out of boredom.

4:06:35Etienne FontanRight? So, you know, it's, you know, it really just forces you forward because you can absorb while still creating. And I think it's the non-creatives that don't really understand that. Right, Skully?

4:06:53SpeakerYeah, definitely. I don't know. I feel like it helps me focus in some ways, but it was hard making that argument to my teachers. They never wanted to hear that.

4:07:02BubblemanNo, ever. They're like, look, just let me doodle in my binder here. Just doodling. And you go on and teach your class.

4:07:14Etienne FontanSo at what age did you really, you know, nail this skull motif that has really become your moniker? I mean, it must have been pretty early on or, you know, when did it really click for you initially?

4:07:29SpeakerYou know, doing it this exact way is relatively new. I think this is probably like six or seven years old, so it must have been when I was like 22 or 23 that I really like started hitting on this aesthetic a lot, but I was drawing, it started from a place of a I don't know, I was like an angsty little kid, so I drew like creepier stuff a little bit, like the skull had like sharp teeth and crazy eyes, and I would do that sort of thing all the time.

4:08:07SpeakerSo I think it's sort of an evolution over time. I realized I was like, oh man, you know, I really want to be putting like happy stuff out there, stuff that makes people smile. So I kind of adapted something I was already doing for my purposes in that way.

4:08:23Etienne FontanDid you read Mad Magazine or anything like that?

4:08:26SpeakerOh yeah, definitely. In fact, here, I got, uh, I got mad about the 70s on my desk behind me because I was just reading through it and going through all those guys and how they used to draw on the edges and in the parallels.

4:08:43Etienne FontanI love that shit.

4:08:45SpeakerMan, it's super cool. I'm like, I'm learning more and more. I realized recently just how much I don't know about like old school comics and like the way things used to be done and stuff like that. And I've found a real like respect for their process and kind of the path they walked before me and like, oh, wow, there's so much advice that I should be looking at good ways to do things and how I should be navigating the art world a little bit.

4:09:11SpeakerI don't know. I feel like I just kind of jumped in headfirst. I never really had any idea what I was doing.

4:09:17BubblemanPerfect way to do it, man. Also, Mad Magazine remind me of Cracked, which was another magazine like that that was from the 50s. I'm not familiar with that one. It was from the 50s, late 50s. Okay.

4:09:31Etienne FontanCracked was more of a twisted version of Mad, so they were a little zanier. But great art, great pen and ink, especially. And again, it was usually it was in the model of mad in the sense that, you know, they were usually mocking movies, television shows, characters, people's, you know, that it was a little dirtier. Also cracked, right? Bubble Man.

4:09:58BubblemanYeah, it was a little more. Exactly. It was that Charles Charles Schultz. He was one of the cracked guys. Yeah, not quite heavy metal. No, no, not quite heavy metal. Actually, it's substantially closer to mad than heavy metal, but definitely is still a good distance from mad.

4:10:20Etienne FontanYeah, I got twisted by, did you get turned on to heavy metal or be clipping or anything like that?

4:10:27BubblemanI did for sure.

4:10:30BubblemanI used to go to like I'd go to comic book stores and I would go to record stores and so that's where you had to go there was like no database or online thing that you could look at if you wanted to access that information you had to go to like those two places so I went to lots of comic stores and when you go to comic stores you get exposed to like all the things eventually that the comic book Thank you so much.

4:11:22BubblemanOr if a lot.

4:11:23SpeakerPeace.

4:11:25BubblemanPeace. It's true. Well, that's what SSRIs are for, man.

4:11:33BubblemanI'm joking, of course. First, not against anyone that finds themselves on them, but definitely like for the fact that I would never go on those. Those are not for me.

4:11:47SpeakerYeah, no, not for me either. No vaccines and no... No, yeah, serotonin regulators.

4:11:55BubblemanI'm triple boosted with 90 and 73 micron. Those are my boosts. There you go, me too. Yeah, got a 90 micron boost. Cheers to Mark, Acme, Nepal. That's my manufacturer there. Mark Rose, big part of the water extraction history. In the chat room there, about to go to bed. It's 2am in Kathmandu, Nepal, where he is as of now. Going to bed on the other side of the world.

4:12:31BubblemanWhile Skully Vibe adds some fine tuning to the finishing. It's kind of cool, man. You can just add little colors.

4:12:45SpeakerIt's one skill I wish I had is drawing like this. I mean, it's like the coolest thing that I could never do that I just, it impresses me to the highest tier.

4:12:56BubblemanYeah, because it's like the same way you can give a cannabis plant everything it needs to express itself in a way that totally inspires you. So too can the human do with music and with art. If they can, you know, that's kind of the art of art, getting yourself to express your art. You know, which is like, and then, you know, obviously not that it matters, but it's always nice to see how's it received.

4:13:27BubblemanWhat do other people think about my art? This thing that I'm putting out, not necessarily for the approval or validation of other people. Maybe, maybe some are, I don't know. I don't know what your, uh, what your mission is with it, but I would feel most artists are more humble and would say otherwise, but, uh, yeah, it's cool.

4:13:49SpeakerAnd it's funny because Hash brought me and Skully together. I mean, Skully is at every Hash event in Denver. You know, there's a lot of different scenes here. And I actually met him at a Hash event. So it comes full circle, right? I probably wouldn't have found his art without Hash. But because of Hash, I meet all the right people.

4:14:09BubblemanInteresting how that can operate like that. Possibly like Hash is a flashlight in your life, Kyle. It is a guiding light, if you will.

4:14:20SpeakerIt has been for my entire life. You know, I told you, you know, my story. I defied the odds of, you know, everyone betting against me and my family saying, you know, you're not. Why are you leaving school to go, you know, working in cannabis? Like, what are you doing? Right. It was my passion. It's what I wanted to do. And despite everyone telling me I shouldn't do it, I did it.

4:14:39SpeakerAnd it was the best decision I ever made. It has been my flashlight.

4:14:45BubblemanWe, the lighthouse, as James says. James, James is helping bike. He's in the chat room right now. He's also working on the website for Hash Church, putting it together.

4:14:58SpeakerYeah, you're right. It is a lighthouse, James. 100%. I mean, even bike, man, the fact that he's working on your website is so full circle and the synchronicity is, I mean, you know, I'm a big believer in, you know, there's no such thing as coincidence, right? You get all these things that happen in synchronicity and it's almost a manifestation that you're on, you know, the right path.

4:15:26BubblemanTotally. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, man. It is pretty crazy. He just reached out to me. He was like, dude, we want to be a part. I assume it's his way of being a part of this. And it's kind of cool because... He will be a big part of it by helping aggregate the data and making it searchable because we've had you can't fucking first of all imagine how many incredible conversations that have been had on this show over even just the last like five or six years let alone like 10 to 12 years took a couple years off so it's been 10 years but it's been over the course of the last 12 years we did 10 years of episodes and um It's there's high value.

4:16:15BubblemanI mean, honestly, just from like Sam and Wade and a few others alone, you know, you could you could go in hopefully at one point. I don't know how well it'll be able to aggregate in the future with AI, but it would be cool if you could pull like Like point blank, all the points and all the gems that Skunk Man Sam gave, that Wade gave, that different people Horatio over the years have come and given, particularly people that are Cast on to be able to still tell their story and represent them is in their own words, you know, not in some manipulated fucking way where you're like, you know, it's got some nefarious, you know, agenda to the way you're doing it.

4:17:01BubblemanBut just in the in the most honest way, here's how he said it on the show. Want people to have access to that.

4:17:09SpeakerWell, and if there's anybody, there's nobody better than Bike for that, and I'll tell you why. I've seen Bike build a lot of different things in the past year, from crazy web analytics. I mean, I went to his house and met with him, I want to say like maybe eight months ago, and we sat down and he showed me the back end of what he was working on.

4:17:26SpeakerAnd this guy is on another level as far as using AI. I think that he's using Claude, which is the best and most expensive AI that there is. But what I'm saying basically is that the history of what you have, utilizing these tools with someone like Bike, he'll be able to download all the transcripts in, you know, Very quickly, and if he doesn't know how, I can teach him using co-work and Claude.

4:17:52SpeakerAnd then take all those transcripts, have them audited basically, and pick out, you know, the timestamps or the exact points in which very specific things are said by certain people. So we're at a point now where this is all possible and I, you know, bike is the dude to do it.

4:18:06BubblemanAbsolutely bonkers. Such a generous offer and we're just so stoked to let it happen. I mean, oh my gosh. It's the easiest thing to say yes to ever.

4:18:20SpeakerYeah, James is like, we have them already. See, I already know what Mike is capable of and I know how he works. So these guys are all stars.

4:18:27BubblemanYeah. Jesus Christ. Hey, well, excellent. Most excellent. I'm really loving watching the final touches on these characters and this image. This fucking image is awesome, dude. In the mountains with the steeple in the background with the six stars.

4:18:51SpeakerYeah, we're pretty close. There's definitely there's some details I still want to add. I want to do like a cool gradient or something cool for the sky and maybe this background bit, but. Certainly, I don't want to keep you any longer. It's been an awesome Easter Sunday. You take your time, dude. I'm happy to finish this up and post the full thing in like the next day or two.

4:19:16BubblemanWell, whatever you like. We don't mind hanging out and chilling for a little bit longer if you want to keep going. And we also don't mind if you're like, fuck, dude, I'm hungry and I got to go take a shit. We're down with that as well, you know. You just tell me your truth.

4:19:33SpeakerSkully, can we print these? Oh yeah, yeah, we'll make a print of this one for sure. I'll make a, I've made it large enough that we can do some poster sizes of it and I'll make some 16 by 20s before the next time I come over.

4:19:46BubblemanYeah, I'm sure some people in the congregation that watch Hash Church on the regular, this would be maybe possibly one of the first Hash Church type things that we've ever made available in 12 years of having the show. So it would be cool to, yeah, it would be cool to be able to have a place where they can buy those.

4:20:06SpeakerOh, yeah. Signed by Skully. And, you know, you saw you saw it live on hash chairs. Yeah, dude, that was awesome. So cool.

4:20:36SpeakerLet's uh let's call it there and I won't hold you any longer but I will post this and uh tag you in the next uh day or two once I got all the color on it so that we can see the final thing.

4:20:46BubblemanAbsolutely awesome dude well really thank you for coming out and uh and fucking drawing for four hours and 15 minutes straight that was awesome really appreciated that I appreciated all you guys from Colorado coming in and uh Etienne, Colin, and Kay, who have since left. Shout out to those guys for coming in. It was great to have you on, Kyle, and help host the show with me today from the Reserve.

4:21:19BubblemanAnd of course, Jack and Stuart. Appreciate you guys. Nick, Portal Provisions, really appreciate you guys for coming on and sharing and representing Colorado. And we'll do it again. I think in May, I will be at the Reserve doing a live Hash Church. So we'll figure that out as it gets closer. But yeah, Skully, thank you so much for coming and drawing that imagery. I'm... I'm going to get one of those from my wall too, man.

4:21:53BubblemanThat's super. That's just a cool little part of the history of church. I'll definitely be in touch for one of those and we'll get it into the description eventually of the show of where we can have those be made available.

4:22:09SpeakerNo, it's super cool. I really appreciate you having me here and I'll definitely, I'm excited to show you the finished product. So definitely we'll get you a print of one of these to get it on the wall and super stoked to be a part of the history, man. Hash Church is super cool. I had a bunch of people that love hash that reached out to me and we're super stoked for us to all to be here.

4:22:30SpeakerSo thank you very much for having me on.

4:22:32BubblemanHell yeah. Shout those people out.

4:22:35SpeakerMan, you know, biggest people, the Soiku Bono crew, Tim and Chris from Soiku hit me up and they were super stoked. Tim was like, man, I've been listening to Hash Church since I was in Taiwan, like before I even came to the United States. So, man, I was super happy to make them proud. And I don't know, super cool to be here and be making some art.

4:22:59BubblemanThat's the old school VPN Hash Church days. Yeah, for sure. Holy shit. All right. Well, awesome. Good to have you guys all out here. Thanks so much for spending all this time on a Sunday, Easter Sunday. Holy shit. One of the most important church days of the year, right? Yeah, exactly. So go enjoy your families, your loved one, or even just your hash. Either way, may the full mount bless your bull sooner than later.

4:23:27BubblemanAppreciate everyone for watching. Shout out to Puffco, Bubble Bags, and the Press Club. And we'll see you next time. Peace out, everybody.

4:23:36SpeakerThank you.