Samantha's Story, Cannabis Activism and The Power of Native Tribal Cannabis Rights

0:02BubblemanWell, welcome everyone to episode 18 of Hash Church. Great to have you all here for our 18th episode of Hash Church. I'm just going to send the link out to our fellow Hash Churchers. I'm inviting Samantha and John, Ramon, Soma and Milo from Big Buddha Seeds, Todd McCormick, Tony Verzura, Brian Schroeder and Stevie Hughes from D-Nail, Dr. David Allen, And then I got five others that I invited in.

0:32BubblemanWho else did I get in? I got, I'll have to go to the list and see. I think Horatio's in there.

0:38SpeakerI think, oh yeah.

0:41BubblemanWell, welcome everyone to episode 18 of Hash Church. Oh, I always do that, don't I? I guess we all do. So yeah, we've got an interesting group lined up for today. We'll see when they start making their ways in. I had a bit of an interesting situation recently. I really wanted to get Kay from Tricom Technologies back in. I wanted to get Horatio and Tony and all three of those guys with the Terp work that they're doing.

1:09BubblemanI also wanted to get D-Nail guys in. So I was having a really good conversation recently with, now I'll have to go look up his name real quick, with Willie Irv. So I should invite Willie Irv in, if I can find him, because he had some really good information. He works with D-Nail. And I think it's Willie Irv. I can't find him. I'll have to wait for someone else to invite him in.

1:38BubblemanAll right. Welcome, Johnny B. How are you this fine-minded morning?

1:41JohnnyI'm very well. Good morning, fellow hashes.

1:45BubblemanYeah, we've got 87 people in here so far watching.

1:49JohnnyWell, nice. Well, you know, of course, I got my bong up. I got mine, too. This new bowl that I got from you, actually, to hit this nice little old roar. I mean... Sitting on the side burner for a while so it's kind of nice to be able to enjoy it again.

2:03BubblemanYeah, no doubt. I know the feeling sometimes when you got that pipe just sitting over on the corner and it's maybe you don't have the down stem or you don't have the bowl and it's lost a little bit of interest and then one day a simple replacement of a stem or a bowl and all of a sudden you've got a fat piece of glass that you're ripping on.

2:20BubblemanIt looks like the one we were ripping on at the Toronto Airport almost.

2:24JohnnyWell, that would be the TY one. This is just my roar one before I even got a TY one. This is like four years. It sat for like two years. It's kind of nice to be able to pull up that old piece of glass.

2:34SpeakerYeah, absolutely. Welcome, True. Hey, guys. How's it going?

2:39BubblemanHow are you doing, brother?

2:41SpeakerYeah, good, man. Always happy for Hash Church.

2:44BubblemanHash Church. Make sure you throw that on mute there, Johnny, just for the coughing aspect. We're going to be muting our mics today when we're not talking. And we already have 150 people in Hash Church, guys. It just went up to 153 from 87 three minutes ago that I was talking to John. So it's cool that people are awake. I mean, I guess some people like yourself, true, are in Europe.

3:05BubblemanSo it's seven, eight, and nine hours difference.

3:10SpeakerYeah, don't worry. I'm on Hash Church hours. I'll stay up, watch UFC, and then wake up for like a Hash Church morning.

3:18BubblemanRight. How's Amsterdam today?

3:20SpeakerAmsterdam's good. I was hoping for more snow. We had a tiny little bit of snow yesterday. I was kind of hoping it would cover the whole place in white, but it melted, and now it's a little bit miserable, but still Amsterdam. It's always fun.

3:36BubblemanWelcome, Michael. I'm just up in Whistler, and it is much warmer than we would like it. It's about plus 7 degrees, which I guess is 36 or 37 degrees in Fahrenheit.

3:47BubblemanAnd up on the top of the mountain where it should be well below zero, it's actually two and three degrees in the plus. So that's terrible for us. Driving into Whistler was almost depressing. All the snow was melted on the side of the roads and I was just like a tear was welling up in my eye. I think today is going to be hash church for three hours, smoke mad bowls, and then go poach as many hot tubs as I can in a two-hour period around the Whistler area.

4:14BubblemanHow are you, Michael? I'm doing well. How are you doing? I'm doing real good, man. Nice to see you in Hash Church.

4:20MichaelWell, thanks for having me in.

4:22BubblemanYeah, dude. Well, you know what? I've just been trying to obviously create the best sort of show that I can, even though I'm not really creating anything. I'm just a dude that just opens a channel and I invite people in, but At the same time, there's a way to direct things and create good conversation where we kind of get into those doors that everyone's, you know, the gems that everyone's looking for.

4:46BubblemanAnd I figured you were a perfect guy for such things. You're really geeking out on hash making these days. You're very excited and passionate about it. So I thought I'm inviting Mike in.

4:59MichaelAwesome. Well, thank you very much. I agree with everything I heard.

5:05BubblemanExcellent, excellent. Yeah, today, you know, I'm hoping on getting a terpene conversation going. I want to get Horatio and Tony, and I want to get Todd McCormick with Kay from Trichome Technologies. And then on the other side of the extraction of the terpenes, I want to bring in Stevie Hughes and Brian Schroeder from D-Nail, as well as Willie Irv. And what these guys have been doing lately is they've already got their nail, their components Beautifully worked out.

5:33BubblemanIt's a high-end unit with British components. The denail is top-notch. Now the exactly true British components, yes! And so now what they've done is they've really started playing with the different types of materials that you can vaporize off of. So they've sent me titanium. They've sent me titanium. They've sent me quartz. I've got the quartz. They've sent me ceramic I've got on the way from Hive, a Denil ceramic Hive hybrid.

6:04BubblemanAnd then they've also sent me sapphire. And then recently they sent me silicon carbide, which is the material they make drill bits out of. And if you've ever seen a crucible full of molten metal, like gold or silver, those metals are held in...

6:22BubblemanSo this is about 8.9 on the hardness scale. It's stronger than titanium. So scraping it with titanium will only actually wear down the titanium. And what I've noticed from my side-by-side testing from low temps and high temps is that all of these components are releasing the vapor in a different ratio, in a different profile. And how I would explain that is that certain terpenes are... Affected in a negative way when tapped to a certain... Well, for example, titanium seems to be the most dramatic.

7:00BubblemanIt seems to change the taste the most from, say, when you go from tie to quartz. The first time you hit quartz, I'm sure a lot of you would be like, oh, my God, the taste on that. And it's just something about it hitting the quartz and the way it's different from when it hits the tie. And I feel it in my throat as a much lighter, not quite as sharp taste.

7:18BubblemanAnd in fact... When I was hitting the quartz for a very long time and Hive sent me the ceramic and I put the ceramic on my nail and I went to hit it, it had a very strange taste to me. And almost so strange that I thought I better not do a review on this product. It's not going to be good. And I talked to Mike from Hive recently about it and he was saying that it was probably the difference of the quartz to the ceramic.

7:43BubblemanAnd I kind of was like, I don't know, man. It tasted weird. And then when I got the silicon carbide and I started hitting D420K's dry sift, the New York City Diesel, which is very, very orange, citrusy, very, very strong, much like Tangy or even a Terbzilla. And so that particular flavor, when I hit it on the silicon carbide, well now it made it taste funny in the quartz.

8:12BubblemanSo now when I went back to courts after hitting the silicon carbide, I was like, wait a minute. So I think that we are going to have some monster revelations in how we inhale these terpenes just as big as how we extract them and get them into a pure form because it's one thing to extract a terpene, but if you're hitting it or using it in the sort of more damaging way, obviously it's not going to be as enjoyable as hitting it, you know, In the most enjoyable way.

8:43BubblemanSo that was a long rant. Welcome, Horatio. Welcome, Samantha.

8:47SpeakerOn that same note, Mark, I've noticed myself recently when I've tried quartz, dirt, When I thought that people have gone to give the dab too hot, it still has flavor where I know that on titanium, unless you do get it real low, there is no flavor there. But it seems like even the hottest dab on one of the quartz little bangers or whatever, it seems to still have flavor no matter how hot it is, no matter how quick it evaporates, there's flavor there, there's terpenes.

9:15SpeakerThose have gone off titanium.

9:16BubblemanYeah, no, I agree with that as well. That has everything to do with the way the material dissipates, the heat. And so when you have yourself a titanium bowl like this, this is a hybrid, so it's got the silicone carbide on top, because they've mounted it to titanium. But this is the tie nail, and you know when you've got this thing heated up that if you try to grab it on the bottom, you're going to burn your fucking fingers.

9:41BubblemanYou're not going to be able to pull that nail out of the unit. However... Thanks for watching.

10:12BubblemanYou know what I mean? It's 750 degrees on right now, Fahrenheit, so it's definitely like a warm denail. So yeah, I thought it would be a neat conversation, and you know what? It might not happen today. We might not get all the group of people, but I really, it was something I wanted to mention so that we don't forget whether it gets spoke about in this hash church, but it takes us to the road where you've got a guy like Mike who's been learning about dry sifting, and he Learned the dry sift tech, the two-screen gravity tech, and then he started carding, and then he learned the static trick.

10:47BubblemanSo he's going through all these different things. He's realizing, oh, wow, you can preserve things this way and that way, and water hash might lose some flavors, and butane might lose more flavors. But now we get to the point where once you've acquired that unadulterated cannabinoid high, that terpene profile, now it's how do you hit it? Like, even right now... I have a hard time watching people burn bowls.

11:11BubblemanIsn't that wild? Like John the other day was burning a bowl and I was literally like, oh my God.

11:19MichaelSorry for the stress I'll be giving you.

11:23BubblemanDave passed me, Flav421, passed me a bowl the other day and we were sitting down for a session. Johnny was there and I had the D-nail all loaded and I literally almost dumped the bowl he gave me into my bowl and hid it in the D-nail because I was like, It's just so much more enjoyable. It's incredible. What do you guys have to say about that?

11:42SpeakerIf I've got good quality melty hash, it won't see a flame. But if it's the grades that aren't quite up to that meltiness, then I might hit it with a flame.

11:56BubblemanYeah, that makes sense.

11:57SpeakerYeah, if it's melty goodness, then yeah, I want to get as much out of it as I can, and a flame just seems like sacrilege.

12:04BubblemanThat's all you've ever shown me is melty goodness. I didn't know you smoked anything else.

12:09SpeakerYeah, you know what? Material's low. Now I'm on like the second run. Things aren't quite melting as good.

12:15BubblemanI can find my hash here.

12:18JohnnyOn that note, I'm going to do a bong rip.

12:22BubblemanYes, all of you will do a bong rip, and I'll leave it up to Michael to hold the room down for five minutes while I find my hash.

12:31MichaelAll right. Well, the timing of that conversation is great. I've got my first rig and I've got no nail, so now I know a little bit more on how to approach that situation. I've got these remarkable glands that have been producing just this, ah, this isn't going to show anything, but wildly dark, almost black, bittersweet chocolate. Just from pressing the glands with a little bit of heat.

13:05MichaelAnd these guys are probably a year and a half old. And the flavors on them are, they're really magical. And they bring you back to kind of that old world hash, but, you know, with the just absolute full melt reduction. But dang, do I want to get this on a good nail and really experience it because all I'm doing is burning it in the bowl with titanium screen here and

13:31BubblemanI know it's giving Mark a little heartburn. Well, I'll tell you, when I saw the hash, I also wanted to put it on a nail. I see that color in the tropics. I see it in Spain. I see it in Jamaica. I see it in the warmer environments where they grow beautiful outdoor herb, and then they don't just sell it within minutes of it being cut down, but it actually gets cured and held onto for a while, and then when you make hash out of it, It just has this most beautiful color of the deep red and that's what I saw in that hash that you, I'm pretty sure it's the cannoli that you photographed a day or two ago.

14:03SpeakerYep.

14:04BubblemanYep.

14:04SpeakerYeah.

14:05BubblemanI recognize hash. It's my thing.

14:10MichaelIt's my thing. These old glands, there's something different. I'll tell you that. And it's not the kind of rip that, you know, the Russian stuff that I get from a nice fresh sift or, you know. Smoking anything that's heavy on the THC, there's something that's really changed over time in this and it's a wonderful and mellow experience.

14:36BubblemanWell, we've talked about this one to the furthest degree. You know, it seems to be the older guys that seem to notice it and what it is is it's this range of like volatile terpenes that are almost harsh. And it's like they're also maskers of the other smells. And so when we can get rid of those through the cure, which is why we don't just make fresh frozen and sell it two days later.

15:00BubblemanWe want to cure it out. And then you get these flavors that are like, you know, everyone's surprised when they hit it. And everyone's like, oh, this is different. This is like, oh, man, what is this? Like, wow, it's so smooth. Like, it was legitimately like me in Amsterdam this year with the Sweet Skunk Dry Sift. That dry sift was so well received by every single person that smoked it because it was so smooth.

15:23BubblemanIt was like, I wouldn't say it was the strongest, most crippling, most tastiest, best hash in Amsterdam. I just would say that it was The smoothest.

15:33SpeakerHonestly, I think it made my throat feel better when it was sore. That's what it's about right there. I swear, there was one time I got past a joint that just ripped up my throat. Next thing, we're at marks, and I've got a nice dry shift here, and the throat tickle's gone. It's smoothed it off. It's like it's done some healing. So, yeah, I can attest to that.

15:56SpeakerSuper, super, super delicious.

15:58BubblemanThat's the thing. Imagine true when people are making their Legends of Hash entry today. And they're making it today so they can cure it out for a year. So when it gets to Legends... It's still going to have that incredible tap and that incredible... But this is what people don't understand they're competing with. It's like, man, these people have started long before, like two weeks before Legends.

16:22BubblemanYep, yep.

16:23SpeakerOh, Legends. I was thinking about the next entry before this year's Legends.

16:29JohnnyI was going next year's entry when I was at this year's... So there, I got you one up. You were thinking about it. I was already growing for next year.

16:39SpeakerI may have already had some of mine set to one side.

16:42BubblemanSo what are you growing for next year, Johnny, just so we know to look for it? Pardon me? Which ones are you growing right now that you're going to be bringing to Legends? I want to make sure that this happens.

16:53JohnnyOh, the number two.

16:55BubblemanNumber two is the one that's coming to Legends, and that's what you're bringing? I'm bringing to Godzilla.

16:59JohnnyI think that's one of the many. But it's definitely, and getting back to those, it's the number two of the Terps, and we're talking about the Terps and how I like it for more uplifting, where the Medi, the Terps, and that are more down-regulating. So it's depending on what you're talking, you know what, depending on how I feel, I guess. We're talking about the Terps, and I'm puffing on New York Diesel, and last week I was using Horatio's, Pineapple Express, they both have that more uplifting.

17:31JohnnyI like that for morning because it makes me feel better. That's why I don't like the Medi-Cush in the morning because I think that turp makes me more sedating. So we were talking about the terpenes and how they modulate different things.

17:44BubblemanWell, we know that cushions are obviously sedated. We know that those are, I talked to Remo about this recently, that it's the smell of medicine. That we know that the fruity, fruity smells are more of these uplifting modulators. They're the ones that get things going. So that's, it's neat to hear people using this language, I have to say. Because I'm telling you, ten years ago I felt like I was an alien trying to get conversation going with people.

18:10BubblemanAnd now everyone's on it. They all know that terpenes modulate. Cannabinoids, and I shit you not, 10 years ago, Skunk Man Sam was the only person I could have a conversation with about this. So we have come a long way, really. The fact that people know what's going on, they have a better idea, and sure, you know, there's sort of, we were talking about it in chat today, there's the science, and then there's just the knowing.

18:34BubblemanAnd so, they're two different things, but they're both equally, oh, Horatio, what are you puffing on? What kind of vaporizer is that, Horatio? What are you puffing on, Horatio? Horatio is puffing on glycerin diluted with some other mixtures out of a V2, I believe. I should get it right at this point.

18:52SpeakerYeah, it's an IPV3. IPV3.

18:56JohnnyCan you do a bong request, Horatio?

19:00SpeakerI do, it's just this stupid whip cord is always off screen, so it never comes on screen, and then everyone thinks I'm not smoking.

19:09BubblemanDude, we know you're not smoking, bro.

19:14SpeakerAs we all know, these cords are killing pipes right now, so I'm not really trying to move or walk with my shit.

19:21BubblemanDude, that shit made me sick.

19:24SpeakerIt made me, I felt stabbed. I was like, how do I feel cut by glass in my stomach by looking at broken glass? You know, shout out to Brett Maverick for the most painful IG post I think I've ever seen. Yeah. I agree. He's such a good dude. The very day before he was given out bud to homeless, and then the next day his egg breaks.

19:48BubblemanAnd it wasn't even his, it was half his roommate, so he still owes a thousand bucks for it. What's your break? We're talking about Brett Maverick broke his fab egg, so we're talking about how sick we feel for Brett. We're sorry, Brett, you didn't deserve your egg to be broken, that's for sure. Well, hopefully it ends up getting its way back to mothership, and I don't know how often they actually even bother fixing clear pieces, but...

20:12BubblemanMan, you know we paid two plus thousand dollars for that piece. You hope that it... Ah, it's just a sickening thing. Even I look at mine all the time and I think, this is so delicate. Man, I would cry a thousand tears if this broke.

20:27JohnnyI went back on this thing and I cried.

20:33SpeakerAside of the value, they end up becoming very sentimental to you. It's the memories that come with it and all the sessions and... Yeah, I think from cost, they really do become like sentimental and they share a lot of adventures, so yeah, glass becomes more than just a valuable asset, it becomes a very sentimental one too.

20:52BubblemanYeah, no, it's for sure the true story right there. You get attached to these little guys, all of the bowls that you smoke and share. I had a great little session yesterday with Christopher from Oil Slick, came up with his girlfriend and we met at the BCMP and had a nice two-hour session and Ended up going for some nice food afterwards. And then we had a session in my car with the Club Banger and the Fab Egg.

21:30BubblemanMan, does the Fab Egg hit like crazy, though.

21:35BubblemanIt might be potentially the greatest dab pipe ever. I understand why so many people want it. It's not just because they want it. Because you know how sometimes we just want things because we want things?

21:51JohnnyMy cat's trying to get to my ass right now. It's funny. She literally just opened up the drawer.

21:59SpeakerMy dog's trying to put me off the seat. What's that, Samantha?

22:07SpeakerI said my dog's trying to push me off my seat.

22:11BubblemanOh, he's trying to get into your seat, eh? It could become dog church again. I think one time Tony got his dog and then all of a sudden it was like everyone had their dogs on Hash Church. It was dog church. Nice. What kind of dog is that? That looks like a serious beast.

22:31SpeakerYeah, she's a bit of a wolf, actually. She's an Akita crossed with an Alaskan Malamute.

22:36BubblemanNice! Going for those LBI land race dogs.

22:44SpeakerYeah, definitely. Wanted a real dog.

22:47BubblemanYeah, closer to the root. Closer to the root. We were talking about, Tony uses a metaphor of the Jamaican genetics and how they've been bred down by people from the north and the western hemispheres going in and bringing all these sort of lower quality genetics and like, Breeding out the wolf, so to speak. And so now they've got a jungle full of chihuahuas, and they're wondering why they're all sick and hurting and dying.

23:13BubblemanAnd it's like, well, you bred the fucking genetics out that allowed it to live healthy here. So did I get that right, Tony?

23:23BubblemanI'm laughing. I must have got it right. Oh, got the pillar. Is that a sovereignty?

23:27SpeakerYeah, I'm just cleaning it.

23:30BubblemanShit.

23:31SpeakerNot messing around. It's the original pillar.

23:34BubblemanI was going to say, that looks like old school.

23:38SpeakerOld school. Nice.

23:41BubblemanGood stuff.

23:42SpeakerYeah, I said that it's like breeding the... I was comparing it to my Pomeranian. At one point, the Pomeranian was a 40-pound sled dog that was out in the wilderness. We bred it down to a 10-pound little tiny So how was your trip to California? Making history? My trip was good. Hold on a second. We've got to take a break.

24:25BubblemanIt looks pretty incredible. It's neat how through social media we can actually all feel like, you know, like, oh, I, you know, the picture of all of them holding the greenhouse plants, the picture of them on the jet, like just a few little pictures makes you feel like you're kind of, you know, you're along for the ride.

24:42SpeakerIt's very, it's very cool. It's a lot of fun.

24:47BubblemanThere are some good things to get out of social media. It's not all terrible if you use it. I think the internet's just generally like that. You can use it for good. You can use it for bad. What do we got here? People in chat talking about it. Yeah, Tony's prepping for his church sacrament hit.

25:07BubblemanDarth Blaze, thanks Todd, will do.

25:09JohnnySocial media is great for educating. I mean, look at the information that we're able to get out there now. It's awesome. People are talking more about exactly what we're talking about. Terpenes hashed. So much now. It is, you know, it's really nice to see that even though I had a gentleman I was talking to this morning, he was always a BHO guy, Jason. And I was in private chat with him talking about how he's now gone on to hash and now he's trying to help his brother who's on a lot of painkillers due to back injuries back in PEI.

25:41JohnnySo, of course, sending in some information and stuff like that. But people are really looking at how just the separation of the gland heads and how we can start looking at how it affects pain control and really taking a better look at cannabis medicine.

25:54BubblemanWell, they're finally realizing it's a pizza inside a pizza box.

25:57SpeakerExactly.

25:58BubblemanAnd they don't have to eat the box. Wow, what an incredible revelation. That could be.

26:05JohnnyAnd really taking a good look at how those different gland heads for me, and that's why I'm talking to so much people, is how it's helping me with my pain and stuff like that. And really that's what Past Church is about, is really talking about how we can get this good information out there.

26:20BubblemanYes, indeed, and that's what we're doing. We start slow, we just puff a few bowls. I actually had a good conversation that I started with Horatio and Tony. We are missing Brian and Stevie and Kay from Trichome Technologies who I would love to be a part of this, but it was in regards to once we figured out different ways of acquiring terpenes and re-administering terpenes, then we get to the point, especially with the final product, if we're vaporizing, that we can all concur that vaporizing off of ceramic, sapphire, titanium, quartz, and silicon carbide are all different from one another.

26:56BubblemanWould you guys, if you haven't hit them all, you have hit at least titanium, quartz, and ceramic, I would guess. Would you not both agree that they have differences in them? I would. Yeah, I think it's pretty straightforward in the sense that they do. They dissipate heat differently, so of course they're going to dissipate the vapor differently depending on how fast... They cool and how long they hold their temperature from, which True was talking about earlier.

27:26BubblemanHitting a tie nail that he's let cool for a while can burn off a hit so much so that he doesn't really get that terp hit, whereas with quartz, even hitting it fairly red hot, he still gets that terp hit. I guess it gets into becoming obsessive compulsive, doing the side-by-side tests with dry sift, which is a great I don't mind hitting ceramic.

28:21BubblemanThey're all different for me. I get a different tasting hit with the same hash out of those three different components.

28:33SpeakerI think so, because if you try to just standardize the temperature of all those different hits, even when you need the sapphires put in the titanium, They all have a different temperature range for nailing, you could say, that sweet spot. I find that I don't like horse because I get this taste that seems to be a no matter what. It's a pleasant taste and I see why people like it.

29:00SpeakerWhen I hit the hot hit, I'm like, oh yeah, I see why that makes it taste good. But I don't understand this horse taste. It tastes like something glass related where you know how I am with my titanium. I won't hit it 10 degrees hotter or it's ruined. I can tell it's ruined. I can see the degradation. I know the loss. So you can see why I'm so finicky about titanium getting hot.

29:23SpeakerAnd I see why. I'm like, well, if you got it any hotter, I'd hate it too. And I would stick to the quartz equivalent at that temperature. So, I mean, I'm really interested in the silicon carbide now. With me being so nutty at low temperatures, I would instantly know, okay, that's better. That's the end game now. I don't need it.

29:42BubblemanYeah, it's much harder on the hardness scale than titanium. You need a 9.0 or harder to cut it. The way it holds heat is quite nice, and one of the things I was going to say is that you're also hitting, I would say, 90% oil, correct? You're not hitting the dry sift as often.

30:04SpeakerWell, with the dry sift, and remember that silly crown when we went into the turf hits, I just put it right on top and started at the same 350. Now, for the breadth of the actual hit, I add 20 degrees because that sift has got to melt down into an oil before you're vaporizing. Pretty much, I need a 10-second boost, so I give it 20 more degrees, but in that same range, I won't hit it warmer.

30:31SpeakerLike, I won't hit... Dry sip. I don't like touching it to the titanium. But I don't mind floating it in a screen above the titanium usually. But I'm really finicky about putting actual wax membranes against titanium. So I always use a floating screen. That's why I'm so Jermichael crazy. So I know that makes a major difference that the wax membranes aren't really hitting and burning on that titanium.

30:56SpeakerBut if they did, I would hate it too. And I see why people then gravitate towards quartz.

31:03BubblemanYeah, they're all different. I'll tell you, Quartz has always been my favorite. And I mean, I talked to Mike from Hive about this the other day as well in regards to he was bringing up, he's like, yeah, man, but I'll tell you, there's something about hitting it off of that fresh white ceramic and watching the resin boil and drip away. And I was like, dude, I completely agree.

31:23BubblemanThere really is. But at this point, I'm going for best taste and function over eye candy. Even though I agree, it's true, I love hitting. I mean, that whole screen method of putting it on top of the nail, that's like the standard for a melt shot. You know, the classic melt shot was a screen shot for 10 plus years, thanks to Perhaps and myself and other macro photographers.

31:53BubblemanWe set the bar for what that is. It's a flat screen with a bubble right on top of it. So it's funny to see now it's considered a tech because it got dropped on top of a nail.

32:06SpeakerWell, the email really brought the possibility of maintaining the temperature on that screen up. So it's, it's a lot, you know, I just, I feel that if I have to do the sports banger on the road with this, I'm just not enjoying it. I'm just kind of getting my medicine, but I feel like I'm losing my work and my effort, you know, for the time spent.

32:29BubblemanI think Tony will love this carbide nail, the silicon carbide nail, and I'll try to get them to send you one, Tony. It's fucking huge. It fits those giant screens that you have perfectly. And it's flat, so the screen doesn't sit up on the center node. It's flat against the whole dish. I call this their Chicago deep dish. This is ridiculous. You kind of got to hold it up to like another nail to see how huge it is.

32:59BubblemanLike this is a big quartz banger that we hit all the time, right? Like look at that fucking thing.

33:04SpeakerYeah, it's funny that when you're talking about the screen, like before I knew you, that's the kind of photography that I looked at. And we had this one, Like back, I don't know, maybe a year or so, two years ago, maybe a year and a half ago, we did what was called the melt test. And so I took one of those screens, and as soon as I got my email, I was like, because we kept torching it and then dropping it and torching it and dropping it, and it was so ridiculously retarded.

33:42SpeakerYou're like, oh, you're burning it. You're like, shit's falling everywhere. And I had never seen anyone do it, so I thought I was one of the first, but... I put the email on. I was like, oh, this is going to make way more sense. And I just dropped the screen on that. And that was all so I could take a picture and then do a video of it.

34:03BubblemanYes.

34:04SpeakerChip was with me. And I was like, yeah, this is the melts test. We want to see how fast does it melt, how clean does it melt, how much does it bubble, what's the biggest bubble you could get out of it. Try to do one breath. And that was the melt test. And that turned into trichome-heavy extracts. And then we had like the titanium screen, and now I have those that you get them from Aqualab for like nine and a half bucks, something like that.

34:31SpeakerPeople are like, oh, they're so expensive. But honestly, I've never even used one through.

34:38BubblemanPeople are hilarious like that. I'm not paying nine bucks. It lasts you for years. Fuck that. I'm not paying nine bucks.

34:44SpeakerYeah, and you don't torch it. It's just like when you're done with it, you can drop it if you want.

34:49BubblemanCasey's holding one up right there.

34:51SpeakerYeah, exactly, exactly. So that little hole, I'm going to have to call that out because that little hole that I saw with the central extracts, Gibbs and I were at a high times event and Gibbs poked a hole in his screen because of that thing.

35:10BubblemanI remember it was all like crazy frayed and I saw a picture of it. It was like a screen that looked like someone shot it or something.

35:17SpeakerYeah, and then I'll never forget though, Nickity had come up and he was like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Why would you poke a hole in it? And he was like, oh, because it fits on the little, the nail part of the front. And then it was like not two weeks later, it was like screams with holes in it. And I was just like, alright, whatever.

35:36BubblemanA product. Yeah. You know what, a good businessman recognizes a good idea even when he himself doesn't have it. So there you go.

35:46SpeakerNo, absolutely. That was the evolution of the screen.

35:52BubblemanTotally. I'm good without the hole, I have to say.

35:57SpeakerThe hole's nice, though. Keeps a nice flow.

36:01BubblemanI just go straight on the nail these days, I have to admit. I smoke so much that I can't imagine having to drop it on the screen. Although this one is so big, a screen would balance amazing on this fucking thing. It's really stupid big.

36:17SpeakerI need to get one of those because what it sounds like is like this is the quartz that I use. This is a honey hole, right? Yep, yep. And basically this you can pick up and grab, you know, like we talked about. And then this has another part that sits inside a base so you can just put this down on. Yes. I'll show you like the, I mean.

36:42BubblemanTony's set up. As you can see, we take this fairly serious. And what's going on in the... Show me there. Oh, yes. That's... You know what? Those are great. And I actually have one of those, and I was looking for it yesterday, and I got it from Roor years ago. And literally yesterday, I was like, man, you know what would be sweet? In regards to when I change my hot quartz nail and put the silicone carbide.

37:09BubblemanIt's perfect.

37:10SpeakerPerfect. So you just set it down... And then you could literally clean your nail as well, rotate it. You're not going to accidentally drop it because there's a base in your hand. Yep. And what's funny is I have like a G nail, D nail, an E nail over there. I've got every kind of nail you could imagine. I've gone through titanium and different things.

37:40SpeakerAnd most people don't realize that you don't want to torch a titanium nail. You know, the idea is to not get it over a certain temperature. And sometimes these torches can, especially the big blue ones and yellow ones that people use, the map gas, they get over 1,100 degrees. And the titanium has a coating and it has different things as you get into the molecular structure of titanium that it wears off.

38:08SpeakerAnd it will actually cause problems for your lungs and possibly you later.

38:17MichaelI'd like to clean mine out with lighter flame. You think that's fine? That's well below the temps?

38:23SpeakerThe lighter flame is 451 degrees. This out here is probably like 500, 600, 700, 800, and then right at the tip of that blue, you're going to get

38:38SpeakerI think over temperatures, especially when you concentrate it, because you have to think that you're concentrating that torch on titanium. Titanium's going to... Conducts. It absorbs the heat, and it continues to absorb it. So if you could keep your email and your screens from being torched, like I have a little tiny torch for this one if I want to clean it, or actually I just drop it in 91% alcohol overnight, and then just pull it out and it's brand new.

39:06SpeakerI should try that too. Yeah. What you're getting from that overheat is titanium dioxide oxide. What's that? What you're getting from that, when you overheat it to that red hot and then the titanium goes light gray, it's titanium dioxide oxide.

39:27BubblemanIs anyone else hearing Horatio's mic is absolutely terrible?

39:32SpeakerIt is, huh? It is, huh? It's absolutely the worst mic connection I've ever heard. Oh, it's weird. This is a brand new camera. He sounds like this. Really? I'm going to try to put my headphones on. Hold on.

39:52BubblemanThere we go. Otherwise, I think we're going to have to make Horatio type.

39:57SpeakerNo, let's try it. Let's try it.

39:59BubblemanI mean, that's going to make him solid.

40:01SpeakerTry it. Mic issue. No, no. It's important because, like, you know, everyone has something important to say. It's just we want to hear it.

40:10BubblemanYeah. Okay, see you right back. All right, he's coming back. There's 310 people watching. If we get 400 more, we'll have 710 people. So let's go for that. Send out the links, everybody. Let's puff some bazoles.

40:27SpeakerWhat I was talking about with the courts... When he comes back, we'll touch on it again. At the end of the day, I like to smoke full melt on quartz right now. I don't know what you have right there. I'll tell you why I like it. I'm going to relate it to a down-temping method that's used for glass blowing and how beads of glass can be manipulated into things.

40:59SpeakerDown temping, what I mean by that is your quartz will get hot, and then it will cool down. As it cools down and the temperature is coming down, if you place your patty perfectly on that wall, as the temperature is coming down, you won't get a char at all. You won't get a burn at all. That means it's too hot. So I touch just the edge of it just to see how it is.

41:21SpeakerAnd if you get that just proper, it will actually make a perfectly clear, resonant kind of wall. And that can be your best turf hit.

41:34SpeakerIt's the best overall hit that I can get, and that's why I use it daily.

41:41BubblemanI'll tell you. I just hit dry-sipped on quartz. I like quartz a lot as well. I love the idea. I love how it looks in my glass. I love how it goes with the mothership very nice, whereas this big, Sort of metal, scary titanium thing with the silicon carbide nail. It does make me feel a certain way. I kind of wish that it didn't look the way it did, but once I get a drop down, I'll start using it again.

42:06BubblemanBecause it also, that's another thing, it dissipates heat completely differently. So much so that it was heating up the joint in my new mothership. And I just, Flav felt it and was like, ah, you shouldn't do that. You should just avoid that at all costs. So I took his advice on that and Pulled that nail out.

42:28SpeakerCan you hear me any better now?

42:30BubblemanYes, 100%. Like, unbelievable, dude.

42:34SpeakerI'm going to finish demonstrate. So this, what I do is I wait on the cords until I almost can't touch, almost touch the cords. You get as close as you can, and then you're like, okay, it's ready. That's kind of what I'll go with. If it's uncomfortably hot, move your finger away, give it a second, put your finger back, check it, see if you can hold your finger there without it burning, and then when it's comfortable to hold your finger real close, that's the go for me.

43:12BubblemanTotally spaced Aaron. He's like, where's the link, homie? My bad. Sorry, Aaron. I always forget to say that. What's that, Samantha?

43:22SpeakerI was just going to ask you guys a question. Out of all the electronic nails you can get, which one would you recommend getting? Because it's something that I like to get, so I don't have to do the blow touch all the time. So out of the E-nail, the D-nail, and I don't know how many other letters there are of them.

43:40BubblemanI think they all kind of work. You know, I think there's a lot that work and there's a lot of popular units. What I'm comfortable with, I like the people at D-Nail. I've worked with them for about a year and I just like the way they seem to be a company that is not just obsessed with trying to make the best electric nail, but they're really, really like putting a lot of research and development into these different sort of compounds for hitting off of, whether it's quartz or titanium or silicon carbide or Sapphire Inserts.

44:11BubblemanI think most people here would agree that no other nail company has really touched on any of that, whereas D-Nail is really focused on that. So it's kind of like, I like the, they're almost like bows. If you support them, you would pretty much know that your money is going to go into, instead of like buying them a nice car, into more research and development of what the best hit can be hit off of.

44:37BubblemanSo I wish they were here right now. I invited them in today. I'm sure they'd hook you up large too. Hence, that's all I have.

44:48SpeakerNice. Some of the, obviously, the issues I have with smoking stuff is not having opposable thumbs. Not all, like, bombs, lighters, and stuff like that is easy for me to use. And it can be quite hard, like, when I first get up in the morning and the pain's really intense, to then have to, like, faff around trying to, like, light a blowtorch, do all these things, or try and work Things that are a bit too complicated for my hands, so I was sort of looking for things that are just easy to use, not too fiddly, that kind of...

45:23BubblemanYeah, I think that the denail's not too fiddly. I mean, one thing you'd really have to do is, I like to be very impatient when I'm done with it, and it's like, okay, I'm going, and I like to pack it all up. You'd probably want to wait on that until everything was really cool. You might also prefer a titanium nail or the silicon carbide, and the reason I say that is, The quartz is kind of slippery, and if you don't have opposable thumbs, I could easily see you dropping it and it breaks.

45:52BubblemanI broke one just the other day. It's a $300 bowl. It does not feel good to break. So the titanium can take a real beating in that sense. You can drop it so many times, it's never going to affect it. I don't know. Silicon carbide is super strong as well, so I don't know what that would take. That's the material that drill bits are made out of, and when you see the molten gold and molten silver...

46:13BubblemanIn those crucibles, those crucibles are made of silicon carbide, so it's a very strong, durable substance. Hey, welcome, Aaron. Just talking to Samantha about what electric nail she should get.

46:30BubblemanAre you mad at me?

46:35BubblemanHello, Aaron. What's up? We saw your face, and then you disappeared, and now you're back. You looked so serious, I was like, uh-oh. I forgot. It was going back and forth.

46:45AaronIt was getting booted off.

46:47BubblemanOh, really?

46:48AaronYeah. All right. What's up, gentlemen? And ladies. And ladies. True, Ratio, John, Beardo, Tony, I see Tony there. And me and Samantha. Samantha, what's up, you guys? Happy Chaz Trave. Mark, you got a beard.

47:14BubblemanI do. I better shave it, eh? Look, I'm a young man. I'm an old man. I'm a young man. I'm an old man.

47:27BubblemanIt's the half, bro. It's the half. So the other day, I'm talking to someone. And he's like, dude, Hash Church is so good, man. Like, I can't believe what great information comes out of Hash Church. And then he follows it up with, like the other day when Aaron was eating that banana. And I'm like, I'm like, what? What the fuck do you mean? And then, oh, and then he brought up the girl that was sitting with Todd and the young girl.

47:55BubblemanThat girl was so young. I'm like, okay, just a second. So you think Hash Church has great information, but the two things that you got out of it was Aaron eating a banana, and I just couldn't even wrap my head around it.

48:09SpeakerThat was hilarious. Ramon caught that. That was hilarious. Yeah, I wanted to say something too, because I get like, you guys were talking earlier about what the feedback is, and I get really good feedback too. I see a lot of... I see a lot of younger people that are like looking at the information and trying to comprehend it and understand it and they're eventually going to apply it and they're going to outshine even first each generation, you know.

48:41SpeakerSo it's going to be interesting to see what comes out of it. And the other thing is that a lot of people also Facebook me. And I do apologize if I can't get back to Facebook. It's the worst thing for me to try to communicate. One thing I want to say is that when you see certain products or things like this, they cannot ship them to you.

49:04SpeakerSo that's my number one request is people trying to get to the medicine or trying to ask me if they could ship it. It's like an instant, I don't open your email. I don't even send them a message if I see the word ship.

49:19BubblemanYeah, you're working on it. It's not available right now. I totally hear you. And it's that one thing that I get that message a bazillion times. All the people that don't reply to you or that you don't reply to, they message me thinking I know the answer. And I do not know the answer. I also can't send it. I have two wishes in the future of all of this, that we can send that everywhere is my first wish.

49:42BubblemanAnd my second wish is is that I can start telling young people different prestigious universities and schools around the world that they can attend to go study cannabis in the in the whether it's agriculture whether it's the botany or the science or the whatever I just want to be able to tell kids where they can go learn that shit because they want to know I'm telling you yeah at the time we were in Jamaica and I remember there was like a flock

50:14SpeakerA group of kids that like came up to our booth at this convention and at first you and I were like, you know, like what's going on? There's like really young kids here. They were like maybe 8th graders or 7th graders or something.

50:33BubblemanYeah, I'd say 13 to 15. Yeah, 13 to 15. Maybe even a few younger.

50:40SpeakerAnd there was an older woman kind of like, looked like a teacher. She was the teacher. And she ends up, you know, walking the kids towards our direction. I'll tell you, the best questions I've ever received about the plant or cannabis or just information that was being spit back, these facts about cannabis like they were coming out of nowhere, was that group of kids. It was like electrifying, you remember?

51:11BubblemanOh, I remember, dude, because I held them down for about a half an hour, and then you rolled up, and I literally, like, it was almost as though you climbed the top rope, slapped my hand, I grabbed the camera, and I filmed a bunch of what you're talking about. It's on Bubble Man's World in the Jamaican videos. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy, dude, because you held them down for at least a half an hour.

51:35BubblemanAnd here's the thing for you guys to understand. The lady, okay, the teacher was more like a preacher or a deacon. Like she was very, very proper and like she was worried that the information we were giving wasn't really good information, yet she was standing next to An elder in the Rastafarian music industry, Kiddus I, one of the original rockers, and he's sitting there just telling her, no man, listen, listen, you know, and she's kind of like, a little bit like, oh, these are my students, I don't know what these guys are telling them about this, you know, marijuana.

52:15BubblemanBetween the two of us, you, like, they were stoked.

52:19SpeakerThe first question they threw, I remember that girl was like, well, what about if you're pregnant? And should you be smoking cannabis while you're pregnant? That was their first question. And the answer to that question is yes. Yes. I don't know how I answered that.

52:38BubblemanI think we brought up the woman. What's her name? Ruth or something? Like Rob introduced me to her one year. She did the test. On Jamaican women that were like chronically smoking ganja while they were pregnant and then they did this like further test into the first potentially, I think it might have been four or five years of the life of the children, maybe less, maybe more.

52:57BubblemanAnd what they found was the ability of the child for spatial recognition to put a circle into a circle and a triangle into a triangle was all increased in the kids whose moms had smoked cannabis. From the kids whose moms didn't. So that was all she could find, which was pretty incredible in my opinion to find that. Big huge surprise though, right? You might think, oh, ha, ha, ha.

53:20BubblemanIt's like if they're absorbing and more likely than from the ganja smoke, I would say that it was much more likely they acquired the phytocannabinoids into the fetus through the ganja tea that they almost guaranteed all drank because in Jamaica it's a very standard thing for women to drink ganja tea for their menstrual cramps and through uncomfortableness and nausea during pregnancy. So I would not be surprised that those are signalers.

53:49BubblemanSo wow, you give these signalers basically the fuel that allows this system to operate, and then you find that that human is advanced? It's like, no, that's not advanced. The other one has been held back. At least that's my opinion.

54:06SpeakerI'm a massive advocate of women using cannabis and I don't think women should be afraid to use cannabis when they're pregnant and when they're breastfeeding as well because breast milk is full of cannabinoids. It's so rich in cannabinoids. Surely if you're consuming yourself, you're enriching your breast milk even more for your baby. I think it's awesome and I will definitely be using it when I have children.

54:31SpeakerI can say that for a fact.

54:35AaronWhen my wife was pregnant, she was smoking pure resin heads, dry sift. Not all the time, but when she felt she needed it. I can't exactly say, hey, cannabis has made my kids smarter since my wife smoked it. But she is a damn genius. Yeah, she's doing calculus and she's only like four and a half years old.

55:07BubblemanCrazy. I mean, imagine how pissed off people would be to find that out, like, to find these things out that, like, wow, that's a pretty evil agenda that would try to keep an essential food source essential to life and make the most taboo thing, the most taboo thing you can do with it is, well, give it to children.

55:27PeteOh, right.

55:28BubblemanYeah, you better not give it to children. Man, in the meantime... Think of how many countries they're just feeding kids booze at such a young age.

55:37SpeakerHere, have a sip of my beer. Have a sip of this wine.

55:40BubblemanWhy don't you try this?

55:44SpeakerI think, to be honest, they should go into schools around when kids are sort of 14 to 16 year old and say, look, Do not use alcohol. If you use alcohol, you're going to make a shitload of mistakes and fuck up a lot. All of the things that I've regretted in life have been things I've done when I've been pissed. I've never regretted anything when I've got really high with my mates.

56:05SpeakerNever. I think kids would be a lot better off if they all... Use cannabis rather than alcohol. Absolutely. Binge drinking is a huge problem in this country. It's awful. It's a huge problem in Russia.

56:19AaronI forgot what you said. What did she just say? I forgot. It must have been my cannabis use.

56:27AaronYeah, no, I agree.

56:28BubblemanWe'll see it all change around in our lifetimes. We're lucky in that sense. Oh, I want to thank D420K for the beautiful gift of Sift and the really lovely cannabis extracted into coconut oil. Quite different from my own, but really nice tasting and it's strong like he said. Wow. I tell you, you eat a small little bit of that and you are lit. Took some last night.

56:55BubblemanI was floating in my bed. It's never a bad thing. Although... Here's a question for you, Tony, that I would like to have a small discussion on. What are really the differences? Are we seeing... I know a limited amount of information. I'm no expert by any means, and I'm not a chemist or a scientist, but I have somewhat of an understanding of how some of it works.

57:24BubblemanBut are we seeing activated THC being 100% necessary for shrinking tumors and

57:39BubblemanI know you're going to say that the most successful thing you can do is to stack and have the variety of all the cannabinoids, but people that might not have that available to them, they're going to want activated THC for things such as tumors, are they not?

57:53SpeakerWell, here's how I would approach it, okay? There's not enough information out there to tell you either way. Right. So if you were into trying to utilize THC from tumors and you wanted to absorb more into your body, if it's activated, it's going to be harder to absorb more of that into your liver and into your body. But if you keep it inactive, that's creating something that has a non-psychotropic effect.

58:24SpeakerYou're not going to feel really heavy in your body and process this a lot faster. So what I would do is do a combination. For a combination of it being in its active form. So if you wanted to do like a ganja tea or a juice during the day, that would be your THCA. If you wanted to have activated, say you don't have access to things, but you could get activated like an edible, like a really strong edible or any kind of,

59:05SpeakerI wouldn't just stick to one. I would cover my bases, basically.

59:13BubblemanRight.

59:16SpeakerThat's why I say use this. This is what I take. This is THCA. Right? So this is for the daytime. If I activated it, it would still be for the daytime. It would just give me more pain relief. I feel the medicine a lot more.

59:34JohnnySo for me, I do do some decarboxylating and stuff like that. I did some videos on it. And I do activation like with a pressure cooker on the stove. And I've also done it with a deep fryer for cooking. And these we put into edibles and stuff like that. And you can also consume it. And a good way of dosing and standardizing it is how I've been doing some things.

59:57BubblemanHow have you been standardizing your dose?

1:00:00JohnnyWell, basically when I say I'll take 200 grams of cannabis and I'll put it into a pot and I'll boil it with four pounds of butter. So at the end of it, a cup would be 20 grams of basically all of the... It's just the way the extraction is, trying to take a look at it, trying to get the same dose over and over. And then we measure by putting it into a capsule form.

1:00:23JohnnyAnd that way I'm able to, if I take two, if it works for me, then I'm taking the same dose. So I would do batches of it in a pressure cooker and just activating that way. So that's what I used to take for my pain. I take them, they're right here. Like I have them around me. It's what works for me, right? This is what helps me for my condition and stuff.

1:00:41JohnnyYeah, for sure.

1:00:43BubblemanI guess the standardization thing though would be you would actually know how many milligrams of THC and cannabinoids were actually present in there and

1:00:51JohnnyI don't have a standardized dose, so I don't know exactly what's in there, but I have a standardized dose, so I'm taking... Each cap of whatever is the standardized cannabinoid profile that could be in it.

1:01:03BubblemanPeople are also always asking me that. People want to know how they can figure. I mean, I always tell them, if you want to have an idea of how much is in there, get the resin off of the herb before you make the extract. Because the herb's non-active, and 200 grams of herb each time can have a different amount of resin on it each time. I've seen it.

1:01:23BubblemanThank you for watching.

1:01:41BubblemanWe'll determine how strong that edible is. I mean, that must be one of the hard things, Tony, for you guys to standardize and make a specific amount. Because people ask me this, and I don't know how to do it exactly. I just tell them, you know, I put like four grams or eight grams into a cup of coconut oil, and you can divide it and do the math based on how much those are.

1:01:59SpeakerIt's really simple. You have to test along the way. So you take your flours, you test your flours. Then you get your extract, whatever the extract would be. Then you test the extract. Then you make the actual product. Then you test the product to see if the milligrams are with the milliliters, whatever that might be. So it's the lab. It's the lab.

1:02:27BubblemanThat's key. Well, it would be nice to have access to a lab.

1:02:33SpeakerCan you hear me? Just before I speak. Can you guys hear me?

1:02:35BubblemanYes.

1:02:36SpeakerOkay, one of the reasons why I'm like, you know, I see why people all focus on the active version. It's because their extraction method demands heat in order to resolve the final issue. So the whole culture of it's got to be active. I can't even make it safe if it's not active because that's a part of my process. So that's why it seems like no one, even when I think about it, I'm like, Think of all those alcohol people.

1:03:04SpeakerHow the hell are they going to make an active version? They're going to have to drink ethanol by the loads. That's the only way the average... And everyone's not with ethanol. They've run out and get a tub of ISO. So they're all trapped in that same bag of heating it to death until a different solution comes out. So that's really the problem with the inactive is you can eat hash.

1:03:26SpeakerThat's really what you've got to do if you want to stay inactive. With teas, it's... You know, we talked about can we get THC into water, that's kind of what the tea is doing at a very low extraction rate, but how do you really solve the issue of Yeah, starting with the whole plant, fresh plant, grown right, makes a difference along the way for sure.

1:04:12SpeakerSo that was the one thing Colorado taught us as a training ground, if you will, is you have to really raise the best resin and plants you can. Aaron was with us and saw the spot where the greenhouse is going up. And it looks pretty serious. There was like 1,400 lights or something. Awesome. Yeah.

1:04:42AaronA lot of lights.

1:04:47SpeakerIn a greenhouse in one of the best places to grow in the world.

1:04:52BubblemanYeah, that's hard to beat. Come on. It's just one of the greenhouses.

1:04:56SpeakerYeah.

1:04:58JohnnyHow many greenhouses?

1:05:02AaronIt's not really even one. It's not really one greenhouse though. It's multiple greenhouses. Here, I'll kind of give you guys a picture of it.

1:05:22SpeakerI don't know if this will work.

1:05:33BubblemanBlueprints? Yep. How long is it?

1:05:43AaronLet me see, I can tell you right now. Many, many feet.

1:05:49SpeakerWere those like strain-specific bay dividers for the greenhouse so that you can section off things like CO2? It looked like a long strip, but it looked like many, many, many gates.

1:06:03AaronIt's... Yeah, it's many bays. It's a multiple bay greenhouse.

1:06:16AaronAnd yes, you can section it off with curtains or whatnot. And it's about, I don't know, 6,000 amps for the lights.

1:06:35BubblemanIf that means anything. Yeah, that's a lot of amps. Because my neighbor had 1,500 amps, and I remember being like, what the fuck are you doing?

1:06:46AaronIt's like a little power station in your backyard. Yeah. That's what they got to build for this shit is a power station for you.

1:06:54SpeakerHell yeah.

1:06:56AaronBut yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know, like that little trip that we had this past week with Tony and the Foxberry group was like an eye-opener for me because I got to step foot on Native American land, you know. And talk to and meet the president, meet the vice president, you know, of this tribe. And it was, yeah, it was honoring and humbling and being a transplant, a foreigner in this country, even though I was born here, you know, it was a good opportunity for me to say I'm sorry, you know.

1:07:42AaronFor the shit that we did to these people, you know, my ancestors and just, you know, and it was, yeah, I don't know. To me, I mean, I stayed inside where everybody went outside and toured the job site. I stayed inside and talked with the vice president lady and, yeah, I almost had a little tear in my eye, you know, because, shit, like, we're the foreigners that just totally just robbed these people.

1:08:10AaronOh, yeah, I do, man. Fuck them up good. And now we're about to help them and give back to them and with them. One thing that they really want is they want alcohol rehabilitation. No shit. It was like, let's just feed them alcohol, and that's what they did.

1:08:35BubblemanAlcohol got them down for sure, I'll tell you. It's amazing what was... I mean, it really, like, almost destroyed them as a people, even, like, recently I saw this crazy, it was a short clip on the actor Don Cheadle, and he was at, he was in some, like, history thing learning who owned his family when he, when they first came to America, like his great-grandfather and shit, and he found out that it wasn't white people that owned his family, but in fact it was a native tribe of people that owned his family, which people didn't know that, but the The Native Indians actually were slave owners in North America, which is pretty heavy.

1:09:15BubblemanLike, that's how bad we did them in. You know what I mean? Like, damn near decimated them, but actually got them into doing shit that was like bad shit.

1:09:28BubblemanTotally. We've got some little bit of karma there to pay, I guess.

1:09:34AaronThat's why I apologize.

1:09:37BubblemanAs the white man.

1:09:39AaronAs the white man. You know, not even the... You know, I guess I'm white, but I'm like Polish-Russian-American mutt. You know what I'm saying?

1:09:50BubblemanA little polar Russian, eh? I'm a French-Irish-Scottish mutt. You know, a... So I have alcoholism in my blood, if you can imagine. Yeah. In my blood, there's no alcoholism. Irish... French and Scottish. There's no alcoholics in those countries, is there?

1:10:13JohnnyI'm Dutch and Scottish, so I'm pretty much eating cheese and puffer carp.

1:10:19BubblemanJohn looks like the Dutch king.

1:10:23BubblemanHe's the Dutch king. We're going to dress him up this next Amsterdam trip. We'll get John all dressed up and we'll get you the satchel. And we will straight up get an Uber driver. We'll get like three Uber cars and we'll be like, hey, can we put these flags on the front just because we need to have these flags when we roll. Some like Dutch flags. And people will straight up think, we'll film it.

1:10:44BubblemanWe'll film it for Bubble Man's World and it'll be like, you know, Johnny B, the King of Holland. You gotta make some magnets up for the car. Maybe he could have like a special van, like a dab van where we like pull over, invite people in and be like, hey, do you want to dab concentrate with the king?

1:11:06BubblemanWe only got a full melt bubble in here and dry sift. Yeah, the king doesn't fuck with that BHO.

1:11:12SpeakerNo, but the king throws orange meditators to the peasants just like automatically infinity spray from his hands. Just filling meditators.

1:11:21BubblemanMaking it rain with meditators?

1:11:25SpeakerPretty much.

1:11:27BubblemanAnd I got the perfect orange color, so I mean, it's there. There it is, see? The king's got the orange. The king's got the orange. I tell ya. It's cold as fuck up here on the floor in Whistler, even though outside it's actually quite warm for what it should be. Everything's melting, and it's a very sad day up here with the sled on the back of the truck and the snowboard in the back of the truck.

1:11:51SpeakerOoooooh! So what was also cool about being at the tribal land, so they actually grow a bunch of different herbs and medicinal roots and things. We're going to create products with their already, they have a whole book in things that they grow for certain purposes, so we're going to create different products based around their culture and the things that they grow too and try to help them grow more of those things.

1:12:24BubblemanYeah, see, as I'm sitting here, I get a message from Bahrain, which is in the Middle East, and I have some friends that are living there. And my friend's wife is sick. She's passing away of cancer. And he's literally asking me, where can I get medicine? Now it's like, how the hell do you answer your friend in Bahrain, the Middle East, which is seriously, now that's a seriously fucking heavy duty place to try and get sorted out with meds.

1:12:54BubblemanYou think the UK is bad. Huh. Let me tell you, this place is bad. So that's just terrible. I hate messages like that.

1:13:03SpeakerDo you have any, can you get sorted there at all?

1:13:10BubblemanWhat's that?

1:13:12SpeakerCan you get sorted there or no?

1:13:14BubblemanI have no idea how I would get them sorted there. You know, I mean, I don't want to put myself in this situation where I'm shipping e-mails all over the world. And I like sharing the information, but it seems like the information is almost useless if you can't help the person. It's like, what do you tell someone? I mean, in America, it's fine, because I just tell people, listen, I don't care how bad off you are.

1:13:37BubblemanFigure out a way to get something ordered from a dispensary, even if you need to send a friend or you need to go. I mean, we were in here the other day and the guy from Pittsburgh was like, I'm all in pain. And we were like, dude, well, we'll figure something out. And the dude, Matt, Matt was in the chat room and he's like, I'll fucking hook you up, bro.

1:13:52BubblemanI'm like in Boston. I've got a license to grow. We've got dispensaries, you know. He's like, oh, Boston's so far away. I don't have a car. The guy's like, dude, jump on the train. You can be here in four hours. We could be puffing bowls in four hours. So in the U.S., I know that it seems impossible, but I'm telling you, the places that are really impossible are like Iraq and Iran and Dubai and Malaysia.

1:14:17BubblemanLike those places, you cannot, you have to be very, very careful. They still do not play around when it comes to these, this plant. Take that shit serious. So I don't know what to say to her. I really don't. I want to help her. But I don't know how to help her. I don't know people there. Do I? Is there anyone watching from...

1:14:46SpeakerI did want to... Tony, I mean, one of the ideas I thought... Because you come across a lot of people who want to help somebody who refuses. I don't want to get high. And they don't want anything to do with that side. And you go, well, I know the inactive portions. How many people could just grow the veg plant that doesn't stink? As a giveaway and then just consume vegetative matter rather than actually try to flower out the plants and put themselves at the traditional risk.

1:15:15SpeakerHow many people could develop a culture of just developing small bushels of vegetative matter like lettuce to eat? How many benefits could they get when it comes to the more life-threatening disorders?

1:15:29AaronMicrogreens?

1:15:31SpeakerCannabis? Yeah, cannabis microgreens. As a way to subvert the system.

1:15:36AaronYou just start seeds, you know, that'd be a good one. Start from seed, you know, and you just never go through it.

1:15:47SpeakerSo, yeah, we were talking and working on that for a while.

1:15:56SpeakerI think if you look at the raw version of the plant, you're seeing it has, you know, people say, okay, look at hemp, it has all the essentials. Thank you for joining us today.

1:16:34SpeakerThey're fighting tumors or cancer. If you can get it into a concentrated form, taking the whole plant and putting it into a concentrated form and doing that so it never activates, however you do that, then you put that into concentrated doses or capsules. You can fine-tune kind of the delivery of it, right?

1:17:04SpeakerThe reason why you would go to a concentrate or something like that that I've been using is to capture, say, essentially like a glass of juice, a glass of cannabis. You know, maybe it was this high of cannabis juice. Or I take three drops of this. You follow me? So there's a ton of dimensions of THCA and those food sources. That would also, you know, you would also have CBD-A, CBD-G-A, and there's other 70 to 80 different cannabinoids in there.

1:17:41SpeakerSo it's not just the THC. When I say THC-A, that's really all of the cannabinoids in this rock. But since we focus on THC and CBD so much, it's just kind of easier for people to think of it that way. Yeah, no, it's just I'm always trying to come up with semi-bastard butt working solutions for people who are watching. It's the thing where I'm like, well, I know you can't, it's not illegal to grow cannabis.

1:18:09SpeakerHow the hell could you produce the amount of vegetative matter? But I'm like, you know, you can do a lot with aeroponics on a 30-day system because with those systems that grow lots of vegetative matter, usually, Later on in the flower, the plant goes to hell for one, you know, or another reason because of the method. But if it was about a race to produce plant material, you can get yourself, you know, you could say that half cup or to a cup of juice per day in a closet scenario that doesn't need the same ventilation system.

1:18:44SpeakerSo I'm just trying to get people's minds truly... This should give you a bit of a dose real quick. If you could take five leaves... In the videos that I put out there, just five leaves and say maybe ten leaves, but five to ten leaves that you just cold press juice and you took that as your daily dose, that's good. That's what I recommend to people. So it's not that hard.

1:19:07SpeakerI think you could even in a regular room as a grower at home, you should be able to pull off five of those. Now if you just did half of that and you freeze it and you cut them in ice cubes and you just do half of that every other day or even every day, You could use that to spread it as long as you're getting little bits of it.

1:19:25SpeakerI tell some patients that it's only two to three bucks. That's what we sell two ounces for. And they'll chop it into four little cubes because it's frozen. And then they use them like every other day so that even $3 worth of juice is kind of still getting into the system, if you will. Yeah, no, totally. That's kind of why I'm like, get one steed and you just start cloning the shit out of it in a 32 bay cloner.

1:19:53SpeakerAnd even in something that small, you could get that production after 30 days to where you're plucking one plant per day on a cycle and growing it upwards. So there's a lot of solutions that don't stink, don't bring, even if you just prune the plant so it doesn't take the shape of cannabis. While you're growing it outdoors, for those quick vegetative cycles of one month, two months, a lot of people could help people without the BS of, oh, I need iso to extract it, and oh, I need flowers.

1:20:22SpeakerThere's other medicines that people who are in situations where producing flowers is not worth getting your head chopped off, but because they actually don't see the vegetative plant that much, no one can detect it. But they can detect flowers really easily. So for people in Bahrain, if you can get one seed, you can clone your way to a 30-day program pretty fast is what I figured.

1:20:45BubblemanYeah, but man, I'll tell you, in Bahrain and places like that, even those plants as seedlings could probably get you, like, hung. Yeah.

1:20:59SpeakerYou know, one quick question. When we're juicing plants, what are the thoughts on the feed that's being given? If it's in vegetative state and it's not been flushed, we're juicing the leaves and consuming them. How does it well feel that should be dealt with? That's why with our plants that we put in oil, we don't use anything but microbials and some teas.

1:21:29SpeakerAnd just use water. And just keep that as low as you can. And the plants get really big. And those are the leaves that we strip off of. So there's usually, we blanch them, soak them in water, and then juice them. There's nothing in there that's, you know, that's why I only juice that way. That's why I like to keep the plants growing so much. Yeah, like I could see the plants just growing off a basic liquid seaweed tea and that would be the only nutrient you could get by on and I don't think anyone has a problem with, I mean obviously we don't flush lettuce and we don't flush our vegetable matter so it's really just a matter of what you put into it.

1:22:08SpeakerSo if you went as simple as just liquid seaweed you could be pretty confident in what you're using.

1:22:23BubblemanIt might be time for us to load a bowl. Sounds like a plan.

1:22:31BubblemanOh, I know who I didn't send the link to that I probably should have. Not that I have any idea where in the world he is, but Rob, Rob Clark wanted me to send him the link again. Where's the great gardener? Oh, the great gardener, he had a good one today. What was his one today? It was pretty legitimate. Oh yeah, look, he's even sending me a Look at that.

1:22:54BubblemanHe's there. He's like, where's the link, man? Sweet. He's in Thailand right now. Great Gardener is not in Thailand, though. That's Rob. Great Gardener is... Let me just do a real quick check on that. How can I have this many messages open up? It's ridiculous.

1:23:15AaronWhat are you doing, you guys?

1:23:20BubblemanOh, it's their last week to clean the house. That's what it is. But I did just invite Rob, Mr. Rob. I wanted to talk with Rob a little bit about the history of hashish. I thought that would be sort of a neat little topic to go over because, you know, it seems as though way, way back in the day these guys had it. They were on point.

1:23:41BubblemanThey were doing what the plant was grown for, which was hashish. And then somehow from then till, you know, the time we're in now, Things got so made illegal that even hash was more of a rare thing and so much to the point where people who knew about cannabis didn't really know what hash even was.

1:23:59JohnnyI was just pulling up the new book that I just purchased because I can't find mine. It's still wrapped in the package. Second edition. Lovely. Picked it up from your store. Thanks. When Rob comes on, I'll open it. I just haven't opened it yet.

1:24:14BubblemanThat's perfect, Johnny B. That's perfect.

1:24:16SpeakerI like that.

1:24:19BubblemanGot his hashish book. I was very honored to... Oh, Samantha's got hers as well. Let's see. Hold yours up a bit. Hold the cover up. I want to see all the whole thing. You can only see... Yeah, lift it.

1:24:32SpeakerOkay, so that's... The old one is very well used.

1:24:37BubblemanYes, Samantha's is an edition one. So if you hold yours up and John holds his up, you can see what the differences are. And the differences are around the rim of John's, there's trichome heads. Which is a photo I gave Rob to use. And then also the piece in the corner of the fingers holding up the round piece of hash on John's, that's me holding up a piece of Rene hash.

1:25:00BubblemanThe book you have was literally the one I remember looking at and going, I want to be a part of this book one day. And so when I finally, when he did his edition two and asked me for those photos, I was definitely honored to have photos representing in that book.

1:25:19BubblemanShit.

1:25:22BubblemanWhy not?

1:25:27BubblemanOh yeah, okay, shit. Here we go. Pete Robbins is coming in to visit us. I sent the link to Soma as well today, and I thought I sent it to Jim.

1:25:41BubblemanI thought I sent it to Jim. There it is. We'll send it to him. Jim Frayer, I'm trying to get him in here. He's having trouble with his computer, trying to get onto Google Plus, and I think that's also David's problem. We had Dr. David come in last week, but he was unable to speak, so we didn't really get to hear anything from him. I always sort of appreciate his perspective on things.

1:26:05BubblemanI always sort of open my mind up. Ethnobotany, Cannabis Evolution and Ethnobotany, very nice, very nice. Robin Marks, Seven year project, or maybe even an eight year project, if you can imagine, that book's been in the works a long time.

1:26:23BubblemanAlright, welcome Pete. How you doing brother? I'm doing real good man, I'm doing real good. I'm just waiting on Rob Clark to show up. Represent. We got one more, we got one more spot, so we better get him in here.

1:26:40PeteI've got some cantaloupe kush I'm loving right now.

1:26:45BubblemanRight on. Cantaloupe kush, eh?

1:26:49PeteYeah, it's fucking banging too, man.

1:26:52BubblemanWell, that's always... Shut the pasta off before you overcook it. Probably a good idea.

1:26:58PeteBabe, I'm on hash church. Grab the pasta.

1:27:01AaronLater. Just don't eat a banana on hash church, I found out.

1:27:07PeteNo bananas today, bro.

1:27:08AaronNo bananas on Ash Street.

1:27:12BubblemanI think it was okay that you were eating a banana. I think that people were a little shocked when you started deep-throating it. That was just a little bit.

1:27:21SpeakerI didn't even deep-throat it, bro. I just ate it.

1:27:24BubblemanI'm just joking. Drew got a kick out of it. He's jiggling.

1:27:33BubblemanHe's laughing. Oh, yeah.

1:27:35SpeakerI said we were going to have a rip, but I never did.

1:27:38JohnnyBest do that.

1:27:40BubblemanAnother little NYCD rep. It's so orangey and delicious.

1:27:47JohnnyHow you doing, brother? I think I'm going to hit the same NYCD as all there.

1:28:01SpeakerShout out to everybody who's doing the Hash Church tag on Instagram. I seem to get them during the show and it's pictures of us on Hash Church smoking while they're smoking. I like when it's somebody smoking with the screen showing. I love that too.

1:28:24BubblemanI have to admit, I've seen a few of those as well and I've laughed. That's fun. That's fun. You forget there's 266 people hanging out and puffing bowls with us right now.

1:28:38BubblemanThat's pretty damn cool. Nice dab there, Aaron. Aaron's all dabbed up. Johnny B's loading up. I'm smoking. I'm still smoking this kosher, kosher 73.

1:28:49AaronI'm practicing heavy extraction.

1:28:57BubblemanListen to that rure chug. Taking full control of the audio situation here with Roar Rips. Roar Rips. Alright.

1:29:13JohnnyThat's lovely. Ken White Diesel from D420K. Thanks, dude. That was tasty. Not even a cough. Nothing smooth. That's what we're looking for. Clean, dry, sift, grown right. Tasty. Thumbs up.

1:29:30BubblemanYeah, it's delicious. Absolutely delicious. I sent him the link today. I thought we might see him in. But who knows? It is early, this hash church of ours. It is early. I showed up here at my friend's house today and basically woke, well, I don't know if I woke everyone up, but I haven't really seen anyone. I can hear them stirring. Are you in Whistler? Yeah, I'm in Whistler.

1:29:57BubblemanAbsolutely.

1:29:58AaronSay what's up to the homie for me.

1:30:00BubblemanI will when I see him. I haven't seen him yet.

1:30:04PeteNice footage out there, huh? I love that. That snowmobiling footage you had out there in Whistler is fucking awesome, bro.

1:30:13BubblemanHell yeah, dude. It was from the trip with Aaron and Matt. Yeah, and Flav, and yeah, man. Matt, that must have been a blast. I was so envious. It was definitely, you know, something that should be done again. I'll tell you that much.

1:30:31AaronIt was... Well, Don... Well, Don's wife and my wife started talking.

1:30:39BubblemanOh, shit.

1:30:40AaronYeah, you don't even really know... Their heads were like, oh, maybe we should both move to Canada. Oh, no!

1:30:48BubblemanWhat the fuck is going on now, dude? What the fuck is going on? Well, you know what? Really, it doesn't matter where you live because you travel so much.

1:31:00AaronThat's the issue. It's like where we're traveling, you know? And right now, it's like, yeah, we're still doing world things, but it seems like the United States, we're going to be doing a lot of traveling in the next six months, you know? I don't know. At least that's what my agent tells me.

1:31:21BubblemanNice. Well, that's good. Nothing wrong with a little traveling.

1:31:25AaronMaybe if he got off his phone, he could talk about that.

1:31:29BubblemanWhere am I going to be traveling to? Dude, the world is so malleable right now. It's like everything's like ever-changing. It's just like, oh, it's like it's spinning and spinning and spinning, but it hasn't stopped spinning yet.

1:31:44AaronNo, I know. It's like musical country chairs. There's more states like actively just talking about it right now and just

1:31:56BubblemanYou know, of course, dude, the states aren't completely, you know, they understand that it's got to happen, and the ones that are missing the boat right now must be gaining something by missing the boat, because those guys don't miss the boat.

1:32:12AaronNo, they don't. I mean, but it's like, yeah, the future, just to be in this bubble, you know, like, It's a sinker. You were in it at the right time, right place, right year. And now here we are and big business is mixing with the hippies of the world. And where it's going to take us, we're going to be the biggest, cannabis is going to be the biggest business in the world.

1:32:47AaronOh yeah.

1:32:50JohnnyKevin, this is the new goal. You don't have to dig it from the earth. You can grow it from the ground.

1:32:55SpeakerWhat's happening, guys?

1:33:02AaronOh, shit. We're going to get a guitar song, Michael.

1:33:06BubblemanYeah, we're going to be doing some hymns here in the near future. Hash Hymn 319, Jacob, Elijah, and Yosef.

1:33:17MichaelJust got to keep these fingers fresh. Got a show tonight. Oh, nice. See? We get preview to the show or what? Yeah. Well, I just unmuted myself to say cheers to the previous statement about, you know, where we're going with cannabis. I was muting myself for the practice, though. I won't bother you guys too much with the playing.

1:33:43AaronWe need good music to go along with good cannabis. Absolutely, brother.

1:33:53MichaelProbably can't even hear it.

1:33:54SpeakerI think we all hear it. I saw a funny thing about Trey.

1:34:17BubblemanI think it was in the Onion thing. Trey was going to have his middle finger amputated for the dead shows. Are you going for that show? Yeah, because I go to the States so much. I don't know what you're doing for that one show.

1:34:36SpeakerIt's three shows. It's all three, bro.

1:34:42BubblemanYeah, you guys send up the plane. I'll get on it.

1:34:47BubblemanHello.

1:34:51SpeakerWe can just pull behind.

1:34:52PeteWe can pull you behind the boat. Yeah, I'll die. You can pull me behind the boat. No problem.

1:35:03BubblemanA little hash church to an edge. Digging it. Can't play anything else in here. It'll shut me down on YouTube.

1:35:17BubblemanPeople messaging me, obviously, see if there's any other freshies that I'm missing out on the Heinz Church experience.

1:35:27BubblemanI do really want to figure out the differences in, almost in a way to measure what's happening off of these different heat sources that we're dabbing off of. And...

1:35:41AaronI don't know, but whatever I just burned that hash hat, it must have been the perfect temperature because I'm hot as hell.

1:35:54BubblemanNice, that was like the I'm hot as hell dab hit music.

1:35:59SpeakerYeah, I was about ready to say something and I caught up on that in this bit of tune.

1:36:15BubblemanI guess it's time for some OG Kush.

1:36:17SpeakerWhat's going on?

1:36:49PetePretty nice, huh?

1:36:52BubblemanYeah, it looks pretty decent. It's got to be pretty nice to look decent over a shitty webcam camera, too. Is it bad? The quality? No, well, webcams generally are bad, yes. They don't ever show the quality. But that looked pretty decent.

1:37:12SpeakerNice.

1:37:16BubblemanWelcome, Mike. Mike's making hash. He's got his hash-making clothes on.

1:37:31BubblemanWhat are you doing, Tony? Just eating or preparing hash? I can never tell.

1:37:34SpeakerTony's eating. I'm eating rice. Oh, nice. Thank you.

1:37:45SpeakerYeah, I bounced about 50 on that, so I'll probably press it tomorrow using that new technique with the parchment paper.

1:38:01PeteI like that. What's that? Rubbing the parchment paper over the business card. I want to try that technique. I did some dry sift with that sandal tush.

1:38:16SpeakerVery nice.

1:38:17PeteYeah. Oh, nice. I pressed some poster push last week. That shit was nice. Real nice.

1:38:23SpeakerKosher's one of my favorites. Always has been.

1:38:28BubblemanYeah, I just puffed a little bit with Remo recently. I think I have to mute your mic, Michael. Sorry. Thank you. Yeah, no. Yeah, it's creating a bit of a back thing. There we go. It was nice, though. Thank you for sharing the music. I do appreciate it. Yeah, I was with Remo and he had six different kinds of bud. He had like a headband kush and an OG kush and a kosher kush.

1:38:56BubblemanBut then he had like Astro Boy and Girl Scout Cookies, which wasn't really a Girl Scout Cookies that I recognized, and Sweet Skunk, which was 100% a Sweet Skunk that I recognized. So it was nice to hit all those flavors. The kosher definitely had a nice strong kick to it. Yeah, I like the Cosa Cush the best out of that.

1:39:19JohnnyThat headband was really tasty. I think it went back to the kosher at the end. It was really nice stuff.

1:39:29SpeakerWere the buds that you hit, were they pure LED grow? Like, I think he said it, but I never saw it in any of his videos. Somewhere, yeah, yeah.

1:39:39BubblemanHow was it? It was fine, honestly. I mean, you never would have really known the difference. I mean, it definitely wasn't, like, way better.

1:39:46JohnnyIt was the watermelon.

1:39:48BubblemanBut it wasn't way worse. It was just like watermelon. After a while, I was smelling the smell. I was like, okay, I could recognize, oh, that's the Astro Boy. I could see the bud. It looks different from the cushions. And, yeah, I thought that it was just, you know, just fine. I would have never said that it was, you know, I thought personally that the Astro Boy that I grew was much nicer.

1:40:13BubblemanBut it was like, I don't think he really had the same respect for it in the sense that it was all kind of squished up and in a bag, and my shit never even went into a bag. Like, my shit never even dried.

1:40:24SpeakerWell, that's what I figured. I figured there's, I'm like, if it starts as the same, then there's room for tons of improvement. There's room for everything each grower could do. There's room for supplemental light. But to start at a base of 400 watts sounds really good to improve off of.

1:40:41JohnnyWell, I just did a side-by-side comparison video, basically, like plant-to-plant, right from tri-clone to tri-clone, looking at the sides of the butt, side-by-side, everything to now drying it, and then actually, what Mark said, looking at actually separating it and taking a good look at the weight and seeing what we get from gland heads and stuff like that, but, I mean, it's definitely the, I'm going to say the LED spectrum light, it's It's doing great.

1:41:09JohnnyIt's really gruesome, really nice resin. I'm really, really happy with it. I cannot complain at all.

1:41:16SpeakerOkay, so I guess the last question is how much 70 micron yield it gives. That's the last real test.

1:41:25JohnnyIt's really just taking a look at what we're getting from it now and seeing if there's a difference even in the final product and then testing it. Hopefully on the ceramic nail and the new quartz nail and all the nails that Mark has and stuff like that and really just going right down to the bare end and taking a look. I want you to be there too.

1:41:43JohnnyYou should come over and we should all just try it and we'll do a little video on it. It's all organic. It's got a 30 some odd day flush and now it's time to really, it's smoking it, the smoke test and really seeing what it's going to be like. I'm excited.

1:42:05SpeakerNo, it sounds good. I mean, really, the same is a really good result versus having to make, you know, weird, you know, you know how it always seems to come with a spin, but if the same is the base point and, well, it sounds like more passion could even be put into the watermelon, then that sounds like a really good review for me.

1:42:26JohnnyFor me, it was just testing the six different strains, the six most popular strains that I like. So you get six completely different strains, and now I can see how it grows with all six different strains. And really by far I can see how it's developing with like the Barber Bud, the MLP, and the Medi Kush is just really developing very well and stuff like that, whereas the Congolese, it's interesting, it's just now it's just getting more into it, right?

1:42:52JohnnySo now go for yield, now we'll take a look at just doing just two different strains and seeing what it can do yield-wise. Go from there because it's really a tough thing that needs to be done because I'm seeing healthier resin, healthier plants. It's easier on my eyes. It's less heat. It's just a win-win situation when it comes to doing anything. And with the sativas, you're definitely going to save a lot of money and power, and you're getting that true spectrum light.

1:43:18JohnnyI mean, I'm happy with it. That's it.

1:43:22SpeakerYeah, it took me a couple years of actually prototyping different LEDs. I started when I was working in a hydro store. Trying with just a couple of the cheap ones that were available. What I've noticed is that LEDs work great if you have them designated for one specific site. There's spectrums that have been developed for specifically producing the fruiting vegetable parts of plants and spectrums that have been specifically developed for the vegetative part of the plant matter.

1:43:56SpeakerSo, yeah, I always found that when I was doing my side-by-sides, they ended up turning out comparably, but the energy draw that we were using on the LED sides was a half to a third of what we were working on. So, you know, I ended up making the switch about a year ago. We're running about 12 LEDs in the same footprint, or 12 LEDs in three times the footprint All in the same power that we were running on before HIDs in the same room.

1:44:30SpeakerSo we essentially three-folded our footprint and per light ended up keeping about the same weight. So it's definitely interesting though. I mean, when I look in LEDs, there's a couple different things. You still have to change the bulbs after three or four years. But if you get the bulbs that have modular diodes, Thank you. Thank you.

1:45:22SpeakerWe're going to be able to fine tune the LED spectrums for each individual week because a plant that's going through its transition and stretch is going to need a different spectrum than a plant that's starting to crown or harden off.

1:45:35JohnnyThat's what I'm seeing because I had the six different strains and how it developed with the six different strains. Very interesting how you say that. So it would be the spectrum for each different strain which would be more dialing in but Yeah, no, I mean, for me, just personally, I see a difference, right? So, I mean, it's nice to see, but the technology that we're going to be seeing is just going to be so much more fast, and each individual strain will have its own spectrum, of course, right?

1:46:04JohnnyMaybe?

1:46:05SpeakerYeah, well, they, you know, if you look at the way that they're, you know, a lot of these LED companies, they're not really, they're selling a couple lights to each buyer in The Greenhouse Company, there's a few licensed producers that are buying big orders from them. The majority of them, you know, one of the largest LED manufacturers that I talked to when I was talking to them at the Greenhouse Expo, you know, they were there with one of their big suppliers, and a lot of the people that are doing it are growing, you know, hydroponic tomatoes that go into Safeway stores, or hydroponic lettuce that are going into, and that stuff, you know, There's enough of a turnaround that you can have acres of greenhouses growing either lettuce or tomatoes with supplementing LEDs and then being able to have that supplemental LED catch up to what the sunlight is lacking in the fall or winter.

1:47:07SpeakerIt's definitely interesting. I have a feeling that you can Design LEDs for different parts of the grow room. You know, the LED that you're going to want hanging at the very top of your canopy is going to be different than the LED you want hanging between the plants casting outside of it. And then if you're, you know, if you're designing a room growing, you know, bay style greenhouses versus a room that has tabletop canopies and buds, you know, you're probably going to want different LEDs for that as well.

1:47:38SpeakerSo, but, you know, it's nice that, What I've found is my favorite part about them is the more points of light that you have hitting the plant from, the more different angles that you can actually hit the plant. When you're having to isolate yourself with one individual light source that has to refract off everything else to hit the plants, the LEDs cause a lot more even of a growth within the bonsai plants that we're doing.

1:48:12BubblemanVery cool, very cool. How long have you been playing around with that for, Mike?

1:48:19SpeakerI got my first LED to mess around with in 08, but the company we're working with now, we've been working with for about three years. We actually work with two companies, one that supplies our veg lights, and they run a one-watt Fairly cheap LED setup. And then what we run in our flowers are three and five watt modules. And those we've been using for about two years.

1:48:53SpeakerSo, yeah, there's a bunch of different pros and cons with whatever light setup you can do. I think the best setup is going to be pairing lights with greenhouses or HIDs.

1:49:10SpeakerI look forward to that day, I'll tell you.

1:49:12JohnnyYeah, it's exciting.

1:49:15AaronBecause they work.

1:49:21AaronAre you guys using those LED lights that I saw that you had, Mark? Yeah, I got the Spectrum King is the one that I'm using.

1:49:30JohnnyThat big one that looks like the stadium lighting? Yeah, that's what you talked about there a couple weeks ago. It's working well. I'm happy with the results. It's, it was just something I wanted to test and it came out, came out very well and very happy with it, right? So, I mean, I'm surprised. I've worked in the hydro store now since 2009 and I've tested every end before that.

1:49:58JohnnyI've tested so many LED lights over the years and nothing's ever worked like this one, so.

1:50:05AaronAnd which one, and Mike, which one are you talking about? Which ones are you guys using?

1:50:11SpeakerSo we have a couple of different models of the Hydro-Grill ones, and then we have two different models of the Max-Grills. So the Max-Grills run about $600 a piece. They're pretty cheap. They work awesome for our clones. And then our Hydro-Grills we use in our flower room, and those are more of the purple spectrum.

1:50:39SpeakerThose actually have dials, but we found those work the best paired with a couple of HID.

1:50:48JohnnyCool. Yeah, I'm just using them, so... Well, I wish it was colder, I'm not going to lie.

1:51:03BubblemanI wish it were colder. For me, because, like,

1:51:07AaronIs it raining up there, Mark?

1:51:10BubblemanYeah, it's like it's raining in Whistler and it's like melting and the freezing level is at like 6,500 feet, which is like the top of the mountain. Sounds like a fun chair ride. Oh, man. There's a gondola that will take you up.

1:51:31AaronHey, but not when you get back down part of the way.

1:51:34BubblemanNo, then you're on the chairs, yeah? You could make it so you could ride, but I mean, who's even, are you going to go ride today, dude, in the plus weather?

1:51:43SpeakerYeah, you're going to go up?

1:51:49BubblemanReally? So you just got to break the chain?

1:51:56BubblemanRain, rain, and more rain. It's depressing, I'm not going to lie. What do you got there, Mike?

1:52:08BubblemanQuazulu?

1:52:13SpeakerQuazulu? Quazulu, it's a self-offer. Yeah, we actually had a patient coming in across there.

1:52:22BubblemanAll right, I think I fixed that.

1:52:28BubblemanTook a few seconds. Is that the CO2 extract?

1:52:40BubblemanDo you find that it's often a similar color or do you get a wide range?

1:52:47SpeakerIt all depends on the terpene content. CO2 is fairly non-polar, so we don't pull a lot of waxes. That's why we generally get a lot less yield. But depending on the pressure, you can either pull more lipids, waxes. If you boost the temperature up and hit the melting point of the paraffins, you can pull the waxes off. But, you know, we can produce anywhere, anything from a kind of a sugar wax, which is fairly light in color, all the way down to a, you know, a sap or a shatter, which is only going to be the color of the terpenes.

1:53:22BubblemanRight.

1:53:24SpeakerSo.

1:53:24BubblemanAwesome. I'm holding that. Tea. Nice. Dan, what are you hitting there? Some crazy recycler?

1:53:39BubblemanNo. You're a fucking science experiment. And the full-size torch, too. That's just fucking awesome. You used to make creme brulee. Creme brulee, man. No, I've got an actual creme brulee torch right here. Check this shit out. Yeah, I do, too.

1:53:59BubblemanThis is literally sold as a creme brulee.

1:54:03PeteI left my good one in dam.

1:54:07BubblemanYou left your good one where?

1:54:08SpeakerDam. Oh, damn.

1:54:12PeteHe told me. He was tortuous, you know.

1:54:18BubblemanYou look like you're taking a nap, Tony.

1:54:24SpeakerNapping out?

1:54:26PeteYeah. I want to hit man over here.

1:54:29SpeakerI'm watching it while your phone is in, Tony. I'm in a shopping market. I've just been watching it for like 20 minutes as if it was just a show and every time someone talks a new screen pops up. Pretty interesting.

1:54:43BubblemanI was talking to Hitman the other day, Dougie, and we decided that I think we're going, I'm pretty sure actually, about 99%, that we're going to do some sort of a collaboration. We're going to come up with a really cool fucking Bubble Man, Hitman collab.

1:55:02SpeakerOh, I'll definitely take away that. Yeah, I'm kind of stoked.

1:55:07BubblemanThis thing's awesome. I'll tell you what I'm really, really impressed on with right now is the rumble of the fab egg and how much it rips.

1:55:19PeteMan, I've watched everything you've done on that, and I can't wait that we meet and we smoke on that together because that rig looks fucking beautiful, bro.

1:55:30BubblemanNice commitment. It's got four points where the two bottom and the top halves are connected, and those four points hold the water up from the bottom, and they do it so evenly.

1:55:41PeteOh, it's so good, dude. I would love to puff on that, man.

1:55:48BubblemanIt's unbelievable how evenly this pipe fits, and of course it's hollow, right? Like the whole inside of it is just a hollow dome of an egg.

1:55:56PeteYeah, yeah, I like that, so you can see right through it.

1:55:59BubblemanI'm telling you, that piece right there is going to be, somehow I want, I mean I don't want to just jack the egg concept, but I love the hollow wall idea with the Swiss Perk style for the most amazing perk. Can't believe how good this thing hits.

1:56:21PeteIt's balanced. Like in the chug, it's balanced. It comes up from all around, so it's not... It gets that real deep chug. When you said in one of your videos, you could feel it actually on the table. Like chug, you know, that deep... Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug. I like that, too, man. That's awesome. It wants to take off. It's really, like, heavy, too. When I took a hit off of his that time over at Barney's Uptown, that was a really nice rig, man.

1:56:47PeteIt's got that, it looks like it's crystal. It's blown like it looks like crystal, which I think is cool.

1:56:54BubblemanYeah, which one, the Fab Egg?

1:56:57PeteWell, no, True has a rig, right? And it looks like, you've probably seen his, and it looks like crystal. Yeah, it looks like it's blown like crystal, but it's not. It's real heavy glass. It's nice. Oh, yeah. I think I've hit that before.

1:57:10SpeakerYeah.

1:57:11PeteYeah. That one's real nice, bro. I like that one a lot, too, man. I got highly educated titanium from Greg's shop, the Dab Crane Gallery, as do most of us, yeah. And it's so good, man. It's fantastic. The carb caps, everything, highly educated dab tools. Got my little offer over here.

1:57:35BubblemanThere's a lot of good stuff out there, there's no doubt about it. I'm stoked on some tea and hash church. How's that for a glass?

1:57:43JohnnyThat's nice. I'm surrounded by some art. I got my Redbird perk here, then it got a little broken there because I put the sublimator on there, so it's not a very good move. You got sublimated? It's still okay. I still use it. I'm pretty much good to go. Then, of course, I got a nice roar. I got this batted bang. I got some nice glass here.

1:58:17AaronIt's nice to have gifts. I see you got some nice glasses in your shelf up there, too.

1:58:26JohnnyYeah, I got a couple of those are my cups from TY 2011-2012. I figured I should put them on the, you know, they just kind of put them on the shelf behind me.

1:58:40BubblemanOr, of course, Medikush. I've got all my cups behind me, too.

1:58:49AaronI don't got any.

1:58:51JohnnyNot behind you, Jay? No. You got so many, man. It was really nice looking at all the cups that you've won all over the world for all the good genetics that you guys have.

1:59:09AaronYou know what's funny is we're trying to put it together of all the wins for the genetics and we There's still a shitload that we can't remember. Like, people call us up and like, because there's people entering, you know, there's people entering stuff all over in every different contest and then they let you know so it's like your kids are winning but it's hard to keep up.

1:59:43AaronYeah. So, I don't know. I don't exactly remember where What number we got to? I know we're short a few. Short a few.

2:00:00JohnnyI had to four cups one three times with no medicine and good enough. I'm happy.

2:00:12BubblemanCome on, man. I got it on a delay. I have it set that way on purpose.

2:00:17SpeakerAre you drinking like a Betty Page cup?

2:00:24AaronRepresenting Canada here and drinking some maple syrup.

2:00:29JohnnyMaple syrup?

2:00:30BubblemanI need a bottle. Yeah, maple syrup representing Canada. Listen, we don't fuck around up here with our maple syrup. In fact, there was recently a multi-million dollar maple syrup ice that happened at ABEX CD. Google that shit if you don't believe me. Maple Syrup Heist. True story.

2:00:59AaronLike truckloads of maple syrup. We're not even talking like small bits of maple syrup. No, like 55 gallon barrels.

2:01:11BubblemanBig cedar barrels full of maple syrup.

2:01:17BubblemanYeah, all the kids are smoking maple syrup these days. You can, like, dry it out and whip it. You can, like, do a hexane wash. Then you wash it through, like, charcoal and filter it with, like, a special, like, a special, like, keyboard dust. Fucking off stuff. And then you use, like, the Zippo lighter.

2:01:42BubblemanLight it up. Toot, toot. Yeah, that's just silly, I know. I'm just being silly. It's this damn egg that I placed out.

2:02:00PeteI'm like nine hours ahead of you. I've had so much more smoke sessions than you have today. Answered in an hour, same thing, you know what I mean? Same hours. So you think. Dude, I've been up since six. Are you crazy? No, come on now. I think I caught up to you by 8 a.m. No, no, I got you by a long time ago.

2:02:24SpeakerListen, man. Nobody's got me, man.

2:02:28BubblemanI've got ten empty containers around me.

2:02:31PeteBy a little bit.

2:02:33BubblemanYeah, for sure. I've got nine hours on your ass. Come on, man. And I haven't really been puffing that tough, I'll admit. I should probably have another bowl right now.

2:02:42PeteI'm kind of bummed I missed you in Amsterdam, man. It's a good thing, though, I didn't have a booth set up for Grateful Seeds this year. I would have been a little bit bummed out with all the money I would have had to spend.

2:02:52SpeakerYeah, well, it's pretty much been... Oh! That was brutal. Bad things happen for reservations. You know what? Hold me on the carpet, though. It's not bad. I spilled my tea, man! I spilled my tea! That's not good. That's not good. As long as it stays on my computer, I'm happy. Get off the white rug. Yeah, I think we're safe.

2:03:23BubblemanI think we're safe. If my computer just glitches out and I disappear, then I guess I did get a tiny bit of tea in my computer, but I think we're going to be okay.

2:03:36SpeakerCheers.

2:03:40BubblemanMore tea to spill. I can't believe I just knocked that shit over. You guys missed it, man. I spilled my tea. But this is Whistler, so literally, they have more tea.

2:03:57BubblemanDid it hurt your soul, Samantha, when you heard that my tea spilled, being from Britain and all?

2:04:04SpeakerYeah, it did. It made me shed a little tear.

2:04:09BubblemanWhat about you, True? Did you shed a tear from your tea? He's got his team. Thanks, bro.

2:04:17PeteI'm going to go check on my dinner, guys. I'll be right back. Two minutes.

2:04:23SpeakerGo get some pasta.

2:04:26BubblemanI'm going to put that right there.

2:04:31BubblemanCome to my friend's place and trash the whole place, throwing tea around like a...

2:04:36SpeakerIt ain't my carpet.

2:04:38BubblemanThe infamous renter. It ain't my carpet.

2:04:46BubblemanShould I take them on a tour of your carpet?

2:04:58BubblemanDamn, spilled my tea. I'm just reading about the comments for me spilling my tea.

2:05:10BubblemanDo, do, do, do, do, do, do. Did it freeze up?

2:05:19BubblemanOh yeah.

2:05:22BubblemanEspecially Tetlet. Tetlet? Is that the popular British tea these days? Tetlet? Tetley. Tetley. Ah, Tetley. He wrote Tetlet. I know Tetley.

2:05:38BubblemanIt's not your house too. It's true. Not my house.

2:05:45BubblemanWell, maybe a quick little, quick little rip. Won't hurt anyone. Sure love the flavor on this NYCV, man. Holy smokesies.

2:06:00JohnnyIt is so tasty. Like, you guys, it's up there, and we were talking about it, it's with the Tangier, and it's really, really nice. It's definitely something worth getting your, I'm trying to get my hands on it, and Apparently the mom's being flipped. They're flowering. Now we're going to see if we can maybe revert it back and get that specific strain back.

2:06:28BubblemanYeah, it's tasty.

2:06:28JohnnyIt's tasty. Apparently it yields like shit, but it makes some great resin. I don't care about the yield. I just like the resin. Yeah, I'm definitely not worried about the yield.

2:06:41AaronThe NYC diesel that I... That I'm used to from Amsterdam has always been more of like a grapefruit.

2:06:48SpeakerYeah, I know this.

2:06:50BubblemanThis is the 2003. Seeds from Soames? Yeah, like the first one that he came out with really like, really more like Calio and more like that, whatever that Balancine or D-Lemonene or combination of orange terpenes to create this really I mean, I smoked about five rips of it through my clean fab egg the other day, and then I cleaned it. It stunk so bad like oranges, it was amazing.

2:07:24BubblemanAnd then I cleaned it, and the iso, as I was pouring it out, I could smell that it was completely saturated in orange flavor as well. I thought, wow, it made iso almost not a bad experience to catch a whiff of. It was just literally like orange iso.

2:07:43BubblemanYeah, whatever.

2:07:45AaronYeah, that Dizzle is like, I mean, for me, it smelled, it was really a very stinky strain to grow, and then smoking it tasted great, and the room smell was great, but it never really got me too high.

2:08:06BubblemanNo, it was not like it was... I find a lot of the orange strains to be like that. I don't find them to be like overwhelmingly strong.

2:08:16JohnnyI was just going to comment on that, how they're more uplifting and that's why I like them in the mornings because they give me more of a pick-me-up. It's above the eyes type high and I've talked about that with Horatio too and those different terpenes that affect me in those different ways, right?

2:08:36JohnnyBack to the terpenes again.

2:08:40JohnnyBack to the terpenes.

2:08:41BubblemanAll right, Mike's changing runs. So that's his CO2 machine in the background, you guys can see.

2:08:49BubblemanAnd he's basically, I guess, going to pull out his container and run, figure out his next batch. This is where he pumps out the CO2 oil.

2:09:06JohnnyYeah, it'd be nice to take a closer look at that.

2:09:10BubblemanWhere is he? Is he in Canada? No, he's in Washington, Green Lion Farms. You can see his banner up there. They sell wholesale to many dispensaries across the state. Okay. And so he's got this machine, and he's a smart dude. He's got good information and knowledge and seems to be doing well with it, so...

2:09:38BubblemanHe's one of the only people I really know that actually has a CO2 machine and is actively working with it. And he's definitely working with it.

2:09:50AaronWell, there's a surplus of weed I hear in Washington. I bet. A surplus? A surplus. Like, the prices were high at one point, really high, and now... Everybody grew it and harvest season came and yeah.

2:10:11BubblemanLots of, you know, people can't get rid of their flowers. Like in Switzerland in 2001. Can't get rid of your flowers. I can't tell you how many barns I saw just full of rotting plants.

2:10:28BubblemanWalk in and smell this super intense like First of all, it was ridiculous because they had like three barns worth of weed in one barn. That's why it was all molding because they were just literally like pushing those plants in as hard as they could push them in and then like closing the door and being like, okay, it'll be fine, it'll be fine.

2:10:45SpeakerLet's just go.

2:10:47BubblemanReally? Guess what? It was not fine.

2:10:53SpeakerHow?

2:10:55BubblemanMany, many, many tons of weed were molded out. And many oil guys from probably I'd say around the world made their way to Switzerland in that time to see if they couldn't turn the final product into oil.

2:11:15BubblemanEssential oil.

2:11:18BubblemanEssential phytocannabinoids.

2:11:23BubblemanReally rolls off the tongue. Hey, want to buy some phytocannabinoids?

2:11:27JohnnyHoratio, how can we get molds and stuff out of oils? What kind of microphone screen was that?

2:11:35SpeakerI know that barn is full of Botrytis. You don't get Botrytis out of oil. You just harm people.

2:11:43SpeakerIt wasn't powdery mildew. It's gray mold. And it just harms people. You can't get it out. You'll see it by UV blacklight. And how about forget it and just get to composting? How's it tested? How's the oil tested to make sure that's not in it when people are getting oils? Is that something that's easily done or is it a very expensive setup? How easy is it to sanitize after?

2:12:10SpeakerGray mold tends to behave like gelatin. And it inflates and it binds with the solvent. So in my case, I know it's got mold in it when that came up because it would bind limonene. And the limonene, I couldn't purge it out. And my only semblance was that it had bonded with something that would basically be gelatin and water. Now you can't get it out. It seems to bind and produce a product that's always, it'll never be stable.

2:12:41SpeakerAnd it's always very dark. And it's dark from the first drip. From the first drip of the extraction, you know something's wrong because it's out of bounds. The final product usually just gets wholesale for ridiculously low instead of being destroyed. But with that stuff, it's pottery mildew is the one that can persist through without people knowing and it looks like a normal product. That's the one that you would have to actually test for in the market.

2:13:10SpeakerTo be honest with you, there's been a few runs that I've done when it's been material from outside sources and on maybe two or three occasions from the final, from the out, like the results, I decided that I had to ditch it because I knew there was something not right and one of the things you just said there being dark and never stabilizing, that was one of the things that one of the batches done and There was alarm bells at that one, so I had to get drenched, so I suspected that had some kind of mold in it, so what you're saying there pretty much confirms it.

2:13:45SpeakerWell, one thing we tend to, when that batch happens, you notice you didn't microscope the material in advance. And if you're lucky enough to save a piece and then put it under the loop, you'll find a ton of hairs that resemble stalks with no balls, but they're all flowing in one direction like grass. And that's what, that's the telltale sign of the mold hyphae starting, they're all sporulating and generating.

2:14:12SpeakerAnd they tend to look like frost to the uninitiated. That's how I got burnt and then got so insane about microscoping material in advance because I can't get back my time. Yeah, exactly right. Very important to microscoping. We've got a USB microscope now, so we're on top of that. Well, yeah, because I mean I need to do it the same way for hash or else I could completely contaminate my screens and then you're into trying to clean your screens with chemicals that then deteriorate the quality of your screen.

2:14:46SpeakerSo anytime anything could then basically infiltrate your work environment, it's an issue. So being able to pull the brakes even before crushing it over a screen and then possibly breathing that in is critical.

2:15:04JohnnyWell then there's a method of maybe separating it in the bubble hatch water and stuff. Mark talked about that as shaking it in jars and stuff like that. I think I had that little bash that I had a little bit and I thought it might have been floated to the top of the water and stuff like that. So I'm actually seeing if I can do something like that.

2:15:23JohnnyI do still have some in the freezer. It's been in there for six months because it did have PM and I'm still wanting to see if I can do something with it. It doesn't have that much. It's got a little bit. But it's still a way, you know, I'm not doing anything with it because of that reason right now.

2:15:40BubblemanThe infamous, it doesn't have that much.

2:15:43JohnnyWell, no, it does, and I cut a lot of it. It's in the freezer. I don't want to, you know what I mean? It's got it. It's there. So it's not like I worked on it before. I sensibly froze it, right?

2:15:55BubblemanWell, Michael's making a little bit of dry sift right now. He's got the parchment DVD static trick, and he's gently rubbing the parchment-coated... DVD case over his screen with resin and collecting. I often find on the edge you collect a couple of varieties. You collect a contaminated version and a non-contaminated version. You can usually see it with the naked eye. And I see a lot of people that go back and forth, back and forth, but what I try to tell people to do is spread out the resin as much as you can and just take it one swipe and see what you have on top of your...

2:16:32BubblemanThe DVD case. But there's a variety of ways, of course, to do it. You can, you know, D420K was swiping it many, many, many times over the other day, and I saw Mike just now swiping it over quite a few times as well.

2:16:44MichaelYeah, I'll mention, I do definitely wipe off, I keep the parchment tight, and I wipe off that one side that was, you know, facing down, wipe that off right away, and then I loosen up the parchment a little bit, and I give it some tap. And so I, uh, I'm letting some of that fall, but that turns out to be a lot of the extra hairs and stuff, or the little stalks that collect from over-carding it.

2:17:11MichaelSo I'm kind of like playing an odds game there.

2:17:14BubblemanYeah, I like it. I like your style.

2:17:18JohnnyYeah, he, for 20K, he's got a box of all different materials, and he goes straight on top, he goes over hard, and then he'll tap it off, stuff Thanks for having me.

2:17:56SpeakerWell, I mean, just because, I mean, John's bringing up the point of techniques to deal with powdery mildew. In solvent extraction, there are ways to deal with it. It's usually not worth the effort because you're going to lose terpenes and everything else. But if a cannabinoid profile is critical to you and your life, there are ways to save back In powdery mildew, not gray mold or botrytis, the product can be saved.

2:18:25SpeakerSo I would assume there are techniques that could be used in bubble water that it would take multiple rinses and multiple rinses, but you could eventually wash the surface of the trichome heads to isolate them in the float because powdery mildew doesn't infiltrate the plant. It doesn't go in the plant material. It's on the plant material. So it's very similar to as I accidentally sprinkled Activated carbon on the plant and now I wanted to get that char off.

2:18:53SpeakerSo it is possible. I just don't say I do it enough to say, oh yeah, I recommend that you should try it and it worked for me because I just don't work with bubble hash water and those variables that often. But I would assume that a technique could be created. I kind of wanted to see from Tony if he had known anything from jibs coming across material like that and had any advice.

2:19:14SpeakerBut he's on either a business call or a DTFO.

2:19:32SpeakerWell, pretty much a technique in bubble hash for, you know, something you would be confident to send to the test would be a method to gravity isolate powdery mildew on plant material.

2:19:48SpeakerI don't know. The best thing I'd say with that is don't use material that has powdery mildew. If it has it, you've got to throw it away. That's a hard thing. If you find it, throw it away. If you have something, the only other methods I've heard of is if you water cure something, if you soak it in water right when the plant's fresh. That's either a water cure type of thing or a We pulled the palliative motor off the tire plant and then we got to put it into a, let it sit out and then maybe freeze it again.

2:20:25SpeakerI don't know how to separate it once you run it or put it in oil. I don't even want to mess with it.

2:20:34SpeakerOkay, so there is a mutual agreement. There's a... Even I was concerned that, well, there's the mildew, but then there's the mildew seeds, and those have a whole different nature in water and weight, and it's something we can't see where cleaning up dead plant material, most people... Thank you for watching.

2:21:10JohnnySterilize the shit out of it and you can still be able to consume the cannabis as in itself and that's where actually sterilization would come into play. I think if I sterilize it, it would break. I mean, it's still a viable product, right? But that's why it's in the freezer and stuff because I'm not going to throw away eventually something that I can consume as my medicine on a constant basis.

2:21:31JohnnySo, I mean, for me, putting it and sterilizing it at that point is basically is what What I was going to do anyways, that was already my train of thought to begin with. But, you know, it's just kind of playing around to see if there is a method or another way of being able to do that. But for me, I mean, sterilizing it and then going from there is going to be what I will eventually do with it.

2:21:53JohnnyAnd I'm pretty much okay with that at that point, so.

2:22:01SpeakerWell, that's kind of what I meant by when it has a profile that's worth saving, then sterilization and all the things that don't work with recreational smoking but are for your needs, it usually means sterilization to produce an oral product. Because some people are, you know, it's just like if you get an ACDC or Haley's Comet or a Charlotte's Web and you know this is desperate times and desperate measures, it's just don't think you're going to smoke it or really produce a fun product, but consider the fact you're going to probably blow away all your terpenes in the sterilization process just to hold on to the base cannabinoid ratios.

2:22:41JohnnyNot unless you put it in a pressure cooker, you're not really losing those terpenes in the water.

2:22:48SpeakerYeah, but we've got ice. Sterilization works in many ways when it comes to pushing and pulling. You may be pulling off the THC out of the plant material instead of staying with the physical material. So that would be more like a hot air extraction to work as a way of cleaning.

2:23:08SpeakerAnd that hot air would destroy your turkey. So that's what I mean by the way you're going to clean it is probably going to cost you because you need to separate it from the actual carcass material.

2:23:24JohnnyI'll do a video on grinding it up and putting it into my compost. I mean...

2:23:35JohnnyI'm not a big grower. People think I've got tons of it around and stuff like that, so that's not the fact. But anyways, yeah, no, it's just something that happens, and a lot of people do this here on the West Coast, especially in BC. A lot of people have pattern movie problems, and they figure they have all these different methods, and it goes to market. There's too many clubs that have this problem in town and stuff like that.

2:24:00JohnnyI do see it way too much. From spraying it with different chemicals and stuff like that so people can't see it. But it's an issue that just needs to be more addressed. People need to know. I mean, if it's there, it's like other people mentioned. If you're a farmer and you've got a diseased crop, you get rid of it and you start again. And I think that's what really a lot of people don't do.

2:24:22JohnnyAnd me, myself, I don't do that. And I have to learn that that's what I have to do. Next time if it happens, that's what will have to happen. I'll just destroy the crop, so. Keep my fingers crossed I don't have to do that. The room is being completely cleaned.

2:24:37SpeakerWell, like I said, it's just how extreme of a measure to save it. So the measure is usually outside of everyone's means. And like you said, there's a lot of fake ways that aren't worth it. So the general advice is going to be, unless you're buddies with some expert who has tons of spare time, Thank you for watching.

2:25:25SpeakerWe're on Hash Church, and this is about, you know, how far can we get medically, and when is it time to slit your wrist to save the body? And when can you, when should science come back and save our asses? So, you know, that's kind of what we're talking about. And right now, it's still slit your wrist to save the body.

2:25:42JohnnyYeah, no, that's exactly what I want to discuss about that, so. You know, good information people need to know. It's, um, okay. Can't make hash with powdery mildew.

2:25:59SpeakerYeah, but it doesn't mean you can't make a topical product in the end. It's just you have to let go of what you want and start to work with where it's appropriate. After sterilization, you have now a shit ton of body cream to help last you a long time. It's just not going to be the way you want.

2:26:23BubblemanThat's all. Hittin' that Tazo tea. Not sure if that's a popular brand, but it's what I be hittin'.

2:26:34JohnnyOkay. Hittin' some, uh, some diesel again.

2:26:42BubblemanGood people. Let's see what everyone's sayin'. Horatio's right. Horatio's always right. Anyone? Anybody ever saw someone with jars in their club?

2:26:59SpeakerCalm that. Ha ha. We're laughing. Who wrote that? Who wrote the Elliot?

2:27:03BubblemanHoratio's a machine. Come on, let's go smoke up Horatio's ass hour.

2:27:11SpeakerDon't go smoke up my ass. Last week's experiment was a disaster and a mess and a bunch of burnt shit. Don't. He's not always right. Composting is risky.

2:27:23BubblemanHow do we make it resist in the soil?

2:27:25JohnnyYeah, okay.

2:27:28BubblemanI won't compost it. The man's got his tea. Yeah, I got my tea.

2:27:32JohnnyIt'll probably sit in my freezer for years because just, I don't know.

2:27:38SpeakerNo, that's not acceptable. Composting is not risky. I'll teach you an 18-day hot compost method in which the entire pile hits 70 Celsius and we kill all viruses and those type of things. Shitty, lazy composting is risky.

2:27:57BubblemanThat's what I was going to say. I'm glad you said that very thing. So whoever just mentioned it's risky to compost if you've got PM. It's risky to be a shitty, lazy composter if you have PM. You've got to really sort of tighten up your statement there because otherwise it brings in a broader spectrum of people that don't fit into that category.

2:28:21BubblemanOr something like that.

2:28:23SpeakerWell, yeah, you're talking to a guy that can start a compost heap in negative weather that's steaming in the snow, so... Yeah, don't just assume all composting is the same.

2:28:38BubblemanSteaming in the snow. Horatio's just thrown the gauntlet down for the Compost King Award.

2:28:54JohnnyWell, someone just asked me, did I have mites with those lockdown pads? Funny, of three plants in the room that had mites, I lowered the temperatures down to like 65, so they really didn't can't and went absolutely nowhere. And yeah, they're fine. They're gone. They climbed to the top of the stock. I did a video on it and stuff like that, and you can see exactly where they all lied in the ball.

2:29:20JohnnyAnd now the room is being completely cleaned.

2:29:27JohnnySo work being done.

2:29:30BubblemanSo were they wet off of your buds?

2:29:34JohnnyNot one plant. The one barber bud right near where my drain is. The one side where the drain is is where it is. So it has to do with that drain. So that's what I have to concentrate on right now. And I put painting around it. I'm painting all around the drain and stuff like that to seal it off. And I'm putting a cap on top of that drain because there's no reason for there to be open because it was pumped for a bathroom.

2:29:59JohnnyAnd... It's just, you know, it's just doing it over. It needs a good clean. Gotta do it. Gotta do it for the people. I have to take care of what has happened. You know what? I've always run a tight ship and, you know, you let things go a little bit, but all new stuff.

2:30:27SpeakerExcellent.

2:30:27JohnnyIt's important. If you want good hash, it starts with the grow room. And that's exactly where it all starts with, is the grow room and the grow room. And, of course, the genetics. I mean, that's always a key factor.

2:30:43SpeakerHave a decent grow room. You have a decent grow room as well, yeah? Two different grow rooms?

2:30:55BubblemanSorry, I just, John will have to remember to mute his mic when he's not talking. That way, I don't think he heard your question there, Grateful Pete. I just muted his mic, though, but if you do have a question for him, you can ask him again, and then when he unmutes his mic and answers you, I'll just ask him to mute his mic after he finishes answering.

2:31:16PeteJohnny, you have two different rooms, yeah? And you're growing. So it's quite a good room. So you're pretty lucky. I mean, in some, you know, in retrospect to some of us. But it looks pretty good from what I've been watching on your videos. I think it looks pretty great.

2:31:36PeteEspecially the new yoga room, too. Good for you, man. I'm thinking about doing that myself. I'm partially, like, disabled, so I was thinking about doing that shit myself, man. I start hurting a lot more the older I get.

2:31:54JohnnyAt Heat, yeah, definitely something, like I said, it was in the back of my mind. Mark kept telling me over and over, and one day I did it, and I thanked myself, and now I just got to watch. You can't do a lot of the next stuff, but good for you, man, 100%. Yeah, thank you. You know what? I do my best to grow my own medicine, and that's what I took a look at, and when I took it down, it was like about half the room is full, and I kind of laughed, and someone was commenting on Canopy, and It's in a video, so anyways.

2:32:27PeteLet them. They're always going to complain. What have they got going? You know what I mean? Let's see what they got. But anyway, it's you. It's all about what makes you happy and what does you. What does me and what does the next person. What you take from it that's positive. That's the thing. People just don't know because they've never been through things like maybe me or you have been through.

2:32:47PeteYou know what I mean? It takes a little wake-up call for us to appreciate Really the gift that's being given and that's the plant and the resin that's being taken from that plant. That's precious. I mean, man, my life was stopped in the blink of an eye and I was in perfect shape, 50 inch back, 19 and three quarter inch arms. And when I heard your story, brother, when I couldn't walk for 18 months, man, I was like, hell yeah, I got to meet this guy because we're on the same level, brother.

2:33:20PeteI mean, like the From the whole, you can't, you can't, like, tell people what you've been through. They, they don't know. You know what I mean? And it's like, just do you, because I fucking feel you, brother. You know, there's a lot of people that do. And we love what you do, man. You're a positive person. And I laugh my ass off watching you and Mike, man.

2:33:39PeteIt's great. So, yeah, screw them.

2:33:41SpeakerThanks, everybody.

2:33:44JohnnyThanks, everybody.

2:33:49JohnnyFor all your good comments and stuff like that. You know, and I mean, it really, it changed me is because Mark showed me about the difference with the glands and that separation. That's where it all came into really taking a better look because I was already doing the decarboxylating and taking a look at how that worked, but getting to the pure plant and learning more about the hash and the resin is just, you know, it's what we do, guys.

2:34:13SpeakerYeah, that's it.

2:34:17JohnnySo it's like, thank you, Mark. Thank you, and thank you, Tony. Guys, everybody's doing great stuff in this industry. Thank you, everybody. Hooray show. Wow. You know what? Everybody's putting a lot of work into this, and that's what's good. It's great. Thanks, buddy.

2:34:39SpeakerWell, just for all your viewers watching that are like, well, what am I going to do about my PM? You know, what's going to happen to me? I'm in Johnny Boy's situation. We've got a couple other strategies that I know people in the lower mainland haven't looked at. And I looked at it when I moved into my new location just for sterilization. But we can reset your rooms with a high-level ozone treatment.

2:35:04SpeakerAnd that will dead everything, every seed, every possibility of anything in the room then going to the next room. And you put all your equipment in the room and you kill everything that's potentially in it. So it's very similar to when people try to use CO2 to kill bugs by gassing the room in between cycles. But we can use between the UV filtration because, again, I don't know how much trade secrets we want out in the public domain, but There's a light tool that I'll be using on plant material so that the PM never can develop and elaborate.

2:35:40SpeakerAnd it's in a form where you can see the PM dies, turns black, and you brush it off way before you get into flower and even into flower. So that's not a tool that's rentable. You've got to bring that in from the EU. But we can rent an ozone generator. And I'm not ready to... Put my foot down and say it will work on the plant material, but I know it does strip all the terpenes out of the plant material, so there's a good chance it would also function in that sterilizing state.

2:36:11SpeakerIt's just your material is wet. It would have to be dried to be left in an ozone environment for 48 hours. But there are many opportunities. Aaron just posted my secret weapon to the group, so if he wants to...

2:36:26AaronIt's not really a secret weapon, it's a public...

2:36:29SpeakerIt's probably because people don't do the work. It's your secret weapon, it's my secret weapon, but how many people are wearing up the 2,000?

2:36:38AaronI know guys that are in Austria that have been using the clean light. In Austria, it's 100% legal to grow, but it's 100% to have flowering plants on your premises. It's illegal to have flowering plants. So that being said, Austria is one of the largest clone markets in the world right now because that's all they do is clone. And our friends over at one of the biggest clone places, I believe it's Flowery Fields, Daniel and I can't remember the other guy's name.

2:37:19AaronWhat they have is they have a trolley that they roll up and down the middle of the aisle that has clean lights everywhere. Up the center of it facing both directions so that you can get both rows. And then a wing that goes over the top. And they just walk down. If you're on it too long, you'll mess up your plants. And it's a UVC light, so you can use UVC to kill almost all these molds.

2:37:48AaronThey use it in the rose industry and a lot of the commercial flower industry. You could also...

2:37:56AaronOne thing about the clean... Also, I don't know if you guys ever use any plasma lights, but plasma lights also contain UVC in them, too. So you're not getting as much of a UVC dosage like you would with the clean light, but with, let's just say, I can speak just for the Gavita plasma light, it does put off a mild bit of UVC, not... Not enough to harm you.

2:38:29AaronMaybe if you're just sitting under it for like, you know, three days straight yourself, it might harm you, but I'm not spending that much time under a specific light in a room. It also has UVC, so, and that also helps reduce mold and mold spores.

2:38:51SpeakerAll right, so we're totally on the same page in all its applications. It's just the $2,000 for the pro handheld unit. It's not a big deal to me. Well, I just don't own one. I don't own one yet. Give me a chance to use it twice and do a video.

2:39:12AaronThey've been out for a long time.

2:39:15SpeakerYeah, no, that's what I mean. People don't do cross-disciplinary research. So to me, I'm like, oh no, there's no way you can produce a million molds without PM. There's a solution. Oh yeah, the Austrians got it. I'll get one. But it's one of those things, I'm in that state where I don't do anything until I know I have my bases covered. That's why everyone's like, why don't you grow?

2:39:37SpeakerI'm like, you don't even know. I need a clean light, buddy. I won't even try until I walk that thing around the entire structure every two weeks. Because of that, that's why I told John, I'm like, there's options. Don't give up. But a lot of people aren't going to run out and get a clean light. Of course I am. That's kind of why I said the other solution is viable, but ozone generators are usually rentable.

2:40:04AaronMaybe Mark could post that link on YouTube for everybody to have, just in case they want to keep their plans. I mean, this company should, you know, we're bigging up their product, Clean Light, remember?

2:40:21BubblemanYeah, I will, absolutely. I'll put the link to Clean Light. You've already linked it up, but it's cleanlight.nl. And I'll also put it in the comments section of Hash Church. So that's one of the gems that happened to get dropped here in Hash Church today. One of the gems.

2:40:39SpeakerYeah, they've got the one that they run down the massive rows. Those are the kind of things I figured Tony would already know or when we met we'd talk about, but you guys already know. The scale that works, because I was looking at it for how quickly could I do the same thing to pasteurize the hash instead of doing it on a larger scale with the plant material when you know you've got a bad situation.

2:41:05SpeakerBut Without it in my hands, without that three day test to show the white to black, I don't typically spread, I don't personally spread information, I can't prove, but in my research I already know, oh this is such a done deal, so you've got the experience to let the cat out of the bag.

2:41:23AaronIt works, like, you know, my buddy, they, you know, these guys are pulling like 30,000 clones a week. You know, and that's just not at full production. So they need to have their rooms cleaned. And they've used everything. They've used all the sprays and everything. And they find that the clean light works better than a lot of the sprays as a preventative, you know. And, yeah, they recommend it.

2:41:59AaronI know our friends over at Serious Seeds, I know they use, I believe they use, I think they rep the product. Maybe they distribute the product in some sense of the way. Because I know Thomas, which is serious, he always has one at the cup or something like that in his booth.

2:42:18SpeakerYeah, I saw him in a video. I think he said they were going to be bringing it to America. And when I went, the price said coming soon. So I was like, okay, maybe I should bring it in from the EU. The conversion is going to be brutal. But The main benefit is UV light. It's your whole environment. It's your ballast. It's the gaps between the ballast.

2:42:39SpeakerIt's in all your fans. It's in all your equipment you can take apart. You can use it on your bubble bags. It's really going to be the standard piece of investment because as long as you don't point it at your buddy or get it on your hands... I mean, even when I got two clones right now, I tried to use high-intensity fluorescence to basically poison my way to a sterile plant, knowing that UVC is basically one of our endgames.

2:43:07SpeakerIt doesn't work on Botrytis, and it doesn't kill insects, but it does... Pretty much do everything else we need to do. So it's a major partner in real standardization. Even, yeah, like I said, down to extract your material and we'll just run it across the hash. But from veg to finish, you can be using it to benefit you in every crack and crevice. And it will kill Botrytis as long as it hasn't infected the inside of the plant.

2:43:35SpeakerOnce it's on the inside, then the light doesn't penetrate, but To knock out Botrytis in your fan system and your ductwork, that can all be done with just that base model at 1,500 euros.

2:43:45AaronYeah, I mean, I think you could, you know, I probably forgot where I was going.

2:43:55JohnnyOn Monday at the show, I'll be ordering a few in. So it'll definitely be a hot seller here in the Pacific Northwest.

2:44:09SpeakerYou're already all over it, John. How are you feeling, buddy? Well, there you go. You got your solution, John. You're going to get the store to haul it in. Well, there. We didn't have to pay for it. So keep your stuff frozen.

2:44:25SpeakerLove you, guys.

2:44:30AaronOh, well, I remember. I was going to say it was about the botrytis. Most of the time, I feel like Botrytis starts actually more inside, deeper inside of the plant. Usually it's maybe from like maybe a bug flying on your plant and dying, and that bug molding up because of the moisture inside of the bud, or a bug taking a poo, a caterpillar pooing on your plant outside, then that little poo will turn into a mold, and then your bud will rot, create botrytis, and then, or picking up, Are picking off the leaf during the flower cycle and then the lights go off and then that dew, because when you pick off the leaf there's a little bit of moisture that comes out of it, then right there then usually it will start to mold and become botryous and then you can just break the bud off of the plant.

2:45:29AaronI don't know, Tony, you should, you know, you've seen it a lot in the greenhouse too, I'm sure you've run into it.

2:45:35SpeakerYeah, those things that you said, But also, like if there's a leak in the greenhouse and you see like water drop on a branch, then it usually builds from within the bud itself and goes out and then it turns brown. You can see it from the inside out. You just have to cut it off. It's part of farming. You just... Now what do you think about wood carrying it over through cycles?

2:46:03SpeakerBecause I know that I built a room that was just for drying. It was like sunchokes, just plants. It has nothing to do with bud. No complicated structure, just basically stem and leaves. And I've done multiple drying cycles, but then I had that last cycle in which I just didn't clean out the dryer. I just didn't care anymore and fucked the crop. And I came back and it had all fuzzed out.

2:46:27SpeakerAnd I'm like, that's strange. It was bone dry, and everything else that I dry in a bag is fine, but this environment, the wood persists through the crops, and I don't sterilize what was really just a shed and a stove running in some type of dreadful closed loop. But when I switched out all my trays to plastic trays, I... Just watch the lag time of the trash I would leave behind.

2:46:53SpeakerJust looking at how does it perpetuate versus when is it living in the plant and when do I infect plants. Like when does a whole greenhouse just go to shit and you're like there's no way, there's no way. It's just it seems like it must be in the water and I notice it seems to move. You know, even from plant to plant or from cycle to cycle through greenhouses that are exposed to grass and open ground and greenhouses, basically in my case, I'm anti-wood.

2:47:20SpeakerThank you for joining us.

2:47:48SpeakerJust like you said, there's a drip from the ceiling. What was in that water? Was it the water, just the moisture, or was it the actual environment moving those? It could just be water. It could be a bug. It could be water. It could be a broken leaf. It's all of the above. All of the above. But what you said is right. You should always clean your air filters, clean everything you can, clean your lights, clean your light bulbs, clean whatever you can throughout your room.

2:48:14SpeakerYou could always do... When I had a basement, I would always just, like, do a pH and baking soda, like, power washer, and I had everything on poly, so I had white poly. And then I would just use the poly between harvests. It was, like, I don't know, 80 bucks every time I did my room. So I figured every time I would do it, I would just add everything on double-sided Velcro, take everything down, and then re...

2:48:46SpeakerI used to do like little different types of organic bug bombs inside the walls and in between stuff like just whatever you can do in between the cycle like starting over. Like it's a lot of work but you got to do it every time. Never have standing water like you said. Make sure there's not like leaks and little things that could go wrong, you know, because all that stuff does happen in nature when you grow outside.

2:49:14SpeakerWhen you go in greenhouse, the greenhouse is supposed to capture all the light spectrum from the sun and then add your supplemental lighting so you can capture the full potential of what the plant could actually do in its most controlled and natural environment, you know.

2:49:34SpeakerNo, I totally agree. That's the upside downside of like ozone. I'm like ozone kills everything. But it's eating my plastic. Who knows what it's doing to my motor. In a greenhouse situation, I'm like I've got six hours maximum or my bag to my typical plastic double loop greenhouse is on the go. It's on the go worse than leaving it out in the sun all summer. So it's a gift and a curse because if you cut it, you know, it'll eat your PVC, but it will sterilize the whole thing in a six-hour closed shebang.

2:50:08SpeakerBut that's kind of why it seems like the more money you put into your grove when it comes to those extreme circumstances, the better it will last. That's kind of why ozone is something I rent, I don't own because I don't want to get sloppy and dependent on it and then essentially corrode my entire structure. There used to be, I don't know if they still sell them, I call it a flashlight, but there was like this O3 emitter that you could buy, and you could set it on a digital timer, and I would have that come out at different times to keep a certain low level on the plants early on, so it never developed it, so I used it as a prevention.

2:50:49SpeakerAnd you could buy one, they're like 300 bucks, they emit O3 ozone layer.

2:50:56AaronI think botrytis is way worse than powdery mildew. One is usually sometimes you don't actually see botrytis and you can see powdery mildew.

2:51:13SpeakerYeah, that's true. It's two different things. Well, what can we say about using the black light spectrum? Like, I've never looked at, could I see it, like, infect a plant, and then look at what could I see in the stem and other structures? Because, yeah, powdery mildew, you can see, but that's kind of where I'm like, but try to say you only see by the scope when it's too late.

2:51:37SpeakerBut I haven't gone through, you know, basically other agricultural testing university papers to see what in-field stuff do they do to test for botrytis. I'm sure there's some type of litmus test where we can either get it or get it where it is in the environment.

2:51:54AaronThere's also... There's signs. Yeah, there's...

2:51:58SpeakerThere's signs.

2:51:59AaronSorry, go ahead, Aaron. I was going to say, I've always seen, like, Like a yellowing leaf, that would be the first sign that I've always noticed is like in that one spot, the rest of the plant would look beautiful. Just above it would look beautiful. But there would be one yellowing dead looking leaf. And then when you look carefully, you can see it's totally rotting and molded out.

2:52:27AaronAnd you usually can just pick off that whole piece of bud with no problems. Like, without even a pair of scissors. It's so rotted and molded.

2:52:37SpeakerWear a glove. It's kind of nasty. Yeah, I was going to say, it's like the... When you touch it, it poofs. That's the way spores are set up. That's kind of why it's... Yeah, when we get into Botrytis, you pretty much have to kill the whole room because everything you touch is... It's just like an explosion. Same with PM... Yeah, Pete, I would say that protagonist is a lot, like if you're talking indoor, I never had that problem.

2:53:08SpeakerThe only time I've seen that is when people use LEDs and the plant doesn't properly kind of, it transpires just inappropriately, I guess you would say. It's like when you see leaves touching each other and it leaves a little bit of water between them, that's because there's a relative humidity range in which the plant should be living in and absorbing its water and nutrients and giving off and absorbing It's got to open up little pores to receive CO2, and it has its whole process that it goes through.

2:53:39SpeakerAnd there's little dynamic ranges of temperature that it should be during the day and at night. And there's also ranges of when it's best for feeding, things with the greenhouse. And so with indoor, you shouldn't, in my opinion, be experiencing a lot of the prodigious type of stuff. But as Aaron said, it would be noticeable because you have the green and the green, and then There'd be a yellow leaf right there, something off.

2:54:06SpeakerYou know? Well, just to jump in on the yellowing subject for everyone else to know that one of the ways I feed fish is with a yellow balloon in a pond because most plants Thank you for joining us.

2:54:40SpeakerAnd basically pests that the environment is basically weak and the immune system is going down. So even the difference between cleaning up your dead leaves immediately versus leaving them in the environment can perpetuate a problem versus start to stem it off. Just for everyone that's listening. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so the plants on the inside, like, so if you have this, like with LED lights, I always found that the, it kind of was like, you know how we go, like humans can go tanning, Thank you.

2:55:11SpeakerThank you.

2:55:37SpeakerI haven't really seen that ever in an indoor as much as I've seen it outdoor. And that's, I think, because of, like, a bug or a leaf was pulled. It's such a big connection between the stem and the leaf now versus indoor that when you break it, you hear it snap and you see, like, a little sap. Or, like I said, a water leak that comes from, like, one of your...

2:56:05SpeakerThank you for watching.

2:56:22SpeakerI find humidity is an issue indoors. Whenever I've had those issues, it's been when the humidity's got too high, or like you said, when temperatures have got a little bit too cold, deep into flower, and they're not drinking as they should do, like past week five, that's when it becomes an issue. 100%, so I can understand why with LEDs that's going to happen, because you haven't got that kind of ambient temperature that you're getting in the room, and they're not quite drinking as they might do under lights.

2:56:49SpeakerSo yeah, that's when I can see that happening. Yeah, and people with LED, they get to about week five or six and then all of a sudden it's just like weird wet stickiness at their environments. What's going on? So, something to look for while you're in your LED experiment, John.

2:57:07JohnnyYeah, well, I will definitely take a good look at that. I actually did a macro photo of all the plants and there was no problem with it or anything. But, yeah. You know, good to see, good to pay attention to. Definitely it's about controlling your temperatures and definitely humidity is a key.

2:57:24SpeakerHumidity.

2:57:27SpeakerWhat's up with, we've been talking about shitty forms of hats. You know, we've been talking about the runoff with disease. What about let's talk about

2:57:48SpeakerLet's talk about the good of hash, you know?

2:57:51JohnnyYeah. I have been. I mean, talking about how the different microns are just so great for me and how tasty it is and the terpene modulations of this fucking New York City diesel like full melt dry assist. Yeah, like we got to somehow soon we'll be able to just trade that shit back and forth across borders and stuff. We're looking forward to that.

2:58:14SpeakerHell yeah.

2:58:15JohnnyI think we're going to be old when that happens. You know what? At least I can come visit and go to the places where I'm able to.

2:58:22SpeakerThat's true. See?

2:58:29BubblemanAs long as I can make hash wherever I go, I'm pretty happy. As long as I can do that. Just let me make hash. I don't even need to bring my hash everywhere I go. But let it be set up and made easy so I can make hash wherever I go and I have to say it is pretty much like that right now. It's not usually too difficult to make hash wherever I go.

2:58:52SpeakerYou should go visit your friend in Banzuayi or whatever that was. In where? The guy in the beginning of the show. You talked about him in some Banzuayi or... Bahrain. Remember your friend?

2:59:06BubblemanOh, in Bahrain. Bahrain. Bahrain. Yeah, that would be one spot where I just don't generally go to places where they try to kill people that use cannabis.

2:59:19SpeakerI won't even do a stop off in an airport if they're too strict. I'll make sure to go via a friendly airport.

2:59:27PeteI'm with you on that. That's for sure.

2:59:30SpeakerWe call Oklahoma here the no zone because it's 99 years in prison for making hash or having hash on you. And... It was the life sentence, so they decided to make it 99 years. After a year in Amsterdam, they could probably swap me and get THC just off of any part of my clothing or any part of my existence. So I get worried when they just go through my pockets, bags, anything like that.

2:59:57SpeakerIt gets to the stage where I have to hoover everything out and buy new clothes. Because once you're comfortable being around cannabis legally, and then you have to start worrying about traveling to countries where it's not, it becomes an issue where you have to not only worry about Not deliberately taking stuff, but any kind of mistake where there might be like a microscopic amount in some lint and some wild country wants to say that you're fucking smuggling because you've got a micro dot of cannabis leaf stuck to your foot.

3:00:30PeteI got something definitely to say about that. Someone brought that up not too long ago, I think on the Hash Church. Ever since I got my license, and I don't know if you know this, Bubble Man, but I increased my license to the Netherlands, yeah, because I live in Amsterdam. And I went from 5 grams a day to 10 grams a day, and I explained to her why, because the plant matter not being part of the actual medicine, and that I'm actually deprived because I needed for chronic pain.

3:01:02PeteIt's a longer story, but in any case, I'm able to travel. If I come home for a month, anywhere in the EU, I can travel with 300 grams a month. I've been a fan of cannabis recreation for a long time, but after getting hit by a bus on my motorcycle and eating it for chronic pain, arthritis, post-traumatic stress, anxiety, A multitude of things. I mean, it's so relieving to be able to travel with like cantaloupe kush and kosher kush and, you know, all these great strains that work for my condition because I need it for my pain.

3:01:43PeteYou know, I can't go and get Vendor Cam. It just doesn't work for me. You know, I need to be able to use concentrates. I told my doctor and, you know, she understands that and she said, well, you know, you have to do what you have to do. You have to, you know, provide yourself with the right kind of medicine for your conditioning.

3:01:59BubblemanIt's just not covered under the license?

3:02:03PeteWell, I'm covered within reason because everything that she's told me that I can do, she said I'm able to do.

3:02:10BubblemanI just mean if they caught you with oil, they would be fine with that or they would be like not fine with that?

3:02:16PeteI think, well, because it's probably solventless, I don't think it would be an issue. Because I make my own dry sift and then I press it in parchment paper and it's not used with anything, so, you know. Yep. My Hitman, I traveled with my Hitman. I brought my Roar. I brought some stuff I had from the Champs Expo.

3:02:36BubblemanI've never seen Ponds and Trades available through the Dutch program. That's why I asked. So I wonder if it's much like the Canadian program.

3:02:44PeteIt just depends on who you know, too. I mean, I like BHL once in a while, too. It depends on who does it, you know.

3:02:53BubblemanI'm talking about the legality of your license. Whether you are covered to use concentrates in Holland and the rest of the EU, or if you're only legally allowed to use herb. That's what I'm trying to get out of you.

3:03:06PeteWell, on the paperwork itself, it's kind of a loophole, I think. Because there's a section that says concentrate. It's a Dutch paperwork, alright? And it says the concentration of And then she fills out that area and it says, cannabis, whatever, Indigo or this. These are the active ingredients. And then that Concentrati area, it says concentrated cannabis. And then she puts in cannabis in that area. So I think that was only she filled that in after I had explained the fact that I feel more pain reduction using concentrated cannabis forms, whether it's Dry Sift, BHO, you know, whatever, Bubble Ash.

3:03:56PeteYeah. Or just dried cannabis. I mean, I love dried cannabis, but, like, concentrates work. You know, they do. They work, especially when you have chronic pain.

3:04:05BubblemanI think so as well. I think especially when you have all sorts of different things, that pure concentrates are going to be way better than diluted cannabis.

3:04:14PeteYeah. I mean, I bake, too. I like to make my own cake. And I'm never going to do it again, you know. It's always relaxing and it's great, but you have to be able to provide yourself with enough medicine to be able to bake that. You can't just go down to the pharmacy and buy that, you know?

3:04:34BubblemanTrue enough, yep, true enough. That's why you bake it in your own kitchen, the old bake it up in your own kitchen.

3:04:40SpeakerHell yeah.

3:04:42BubblemanLike a wake and bake.

3:04:44SpeakerYeah, you're in the morning.

3:04:46BubblemanI am in the morning right now. I went and met up with Christopher from Oil Slick yesterday, and him and his girlfriend were in town, and we went and had a nice big session at the CCHQ Vapor Lounge on the top floor, and we headed over to one of my favorite restaurants in Vancouver, Joey's, which was just phenomenal. My goodness. So good.

3:05:08SpeakerMedicated people's?

3:05:16SpeakerWhat's that? You're having medicated pizzas.

3:05:19BubblemanNo, no. I had like an herb crushed salmon with crispy mashed potatoes, and I think he had like a steak and fries, and his girlfriend had some other dish. I can't remember. But it was all very, very delicious, and we had a nice vapor session afterwards in the restaurant, and then we proceeded outside. To go set up my D-Nail in the car, because he said he had an inverter, it was a 350 watt, and he said, it'll work, it'll work, and I'm like, I don't know man, mine's kind of like a beefed up D-Nail, it's not like your average D-Nail.

3:05:49BubblemanHe's like, no dude, I've used tons of different D-Nails. We plugged it into the converter and it would not heat up my D-Nail at all. This thing's more than 350 watts, a 350 watt inverter did not heat it up past like 91 degrees and it climbed super slow. It's kind of random. So I pulled out the Quartz Banger. Wonderful time for the Quartz Banger. I have to say it goes in the fab egg real nice, heat it up with the torch, and get really tasty rips right out in front of the restaurant like we're the fiends that we are.

3:06:25BubblemanSo if you're listening, Christopher, good times.

3:06:29SpeakerWhat's that, John?

3:06:33JohnnyI was going to say, like always, we're always sitting outside a restaurant and I was hitting on some type of piece of glass or overlooking some beautiful scenery or something like that. It's always, it's our medicine. We do it right in front of a shop with drug rent if we have to.

3:06:47BubblemanHere's a funny one. This guy says, oh, let me read it. He says, I should have a gong. Then when I ring it, everyone could all take a bong rip.

3:07:06SpeakerAlright then. I don't see everyone taking a bong rip. I did hit the bong. True's on it.

3:07:42BubblemanThat was funny. I had it set on auto, so the camera was flipping between the three of us taking a rip as we were making sounds. The camera was just like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. It was pretty funny.

3:07:59BubblemanIt recorded it well.

3:08:08SpeakerThis cantaloupe kush is so tasty.

3:08:10BubblemanOh, there we go. This guy says I don't need a fucking gong. There's an effects thing on the side here.

3:08:20BubblemanFind the effects. Let me find the effects.

3:08:22PeteYeah, you have control of that. I saw that earlier. Oh, there we go.

3:08:25BubblemanGoogle effects. I'm like, oh, what's this do? All right, here we go. Here we go. Getting something new. Thanks, vet. Med vet. Med vet's like, pfft, dude. You don't need shit, bro. We got everything you need right here. Those are just really cheesy, like, oh, wait a minute, sounds. Let's go back. Let's go back. All right, here we go. Oh, wait, here we go. Is everyone ready?

3:08:54BubblemanIs everyone ready?

3:08:55SpeakerWe are.

3:09:16AaronHash, Hash just, Hash Church just took it up like we got technical now.

3:09:21PeteYeah, this is going to be a true old school session right here, brother.

3:09:33BubblemanI'll tell you, that last rip was absolutely...

3:09:39AaronWhat's that, a cash register? Money.

3:09:52AaronNow we gotta listen to Mark play with every single fucking button.

3:10:00SpeakerThis is like when everyone had hats on and that fake shit. That can be the foul noise for when someone comes in with their mic or making loads of noise.

3:10:08BubblemanAlright, I will limit it, and I will only use the gong for when we really need to bother it. I will really try to limit it. 361 people, only three minutes ago we had 400 people. 39 people left when I hit that last sound effect. I'm joking. Maybe. I'm sorry, Hash Churchers. Wow, you got a trippy effect going on, Tony. It's like everything's kind of blurry to the side of you.

3:10:45BubblemanOh, getting for the black and white action, eh? Tony's got the fucking proper shit going on. Maybe you need some facial hair, eh, Tony? Let's see what I got going on here for you. Look at that beautiful... It's a beautiful, epic glacier. I'm going to go check it out.

3:11:08AaronOh, he's got a crown.

3:11:17SpeakerThe king.

3:11:19BubblemanNo, give John the crown, dude. He's the king of Holland. You've got to admit, you're from Amsterdam. Look at John. Yeah, there we go. Does he not look like the king of Holland?

3:11:28PeteI'm almost 40, but I'll wear that for a little while, Aaron.

3:11:35PeteHey, maybe after we go off YouTube, we'll show and tell.

3:11:43BubblemanThat sounded dirty. Oh, someone took my picture. I'm doing this right now.

3:11:50SpeakerI'm just playing around myself. It's kind of fun.

3:12:05JohnnyThis is, uh... That's how, and it doesn't even hold it like that, so it'll be a war bond. Oh, I better check.

3:12:18BubblemanOkay, wait.

3:12:21BubblemanAwesome.

3:12:21SpeakerCool, huh? Cool.

3:12:32BubblemanJust reading some messages from people that I'm getting while we're in church. I get all sorts of different messages coming in from all sorts of different ways. And so I try to keep up with it. It's a little bit complex. That's a good look for you, True.

3:12:51BubblemanIn the doghouse, are you, brother?

3:12:55BubblemanGrand doggy perps. Well, that would have been a perfect time for me to say, are you in the doghouse, brother?

3:13:04SpeakerYeah. Nice.

3:13:11SpeakerHe's making a Chemdog hybrid.

3:13:15BubblemanTony's rocking. Oh, wow. Tony's rocking the dog pirate. Arr. All right. Oh, that's a good look for you, Tony. That's the one right there. In Bozo. Straight up. It's Aaron rocking over there.

3:13:36AaronI got two faces, yo.

3:13:38BubblemanDude, what the fuck is that? Is that a balaclava or like a gummy bear Batman or something?

3:13:45AaronWhatever I can find. I don't even know how to take that shit off.

3:13:49BubblemanFine, man. All right. Good that everyone's having a fun time with their... Tony's got a snorkel.

3:13:58SpeakerI'm not. I just don't know how to turn it off now.

3:14:01BubblemanYou gotta go to the bottom and click the X that says remove all effects. I shouldn't have been so nice though. Where is it? Right at the bottom. At the bottom? Way at the bottom. Yep, MedVet's laughing. He says I broke Hash Church by sharing the effects tab.

3:14:23Johnny372, we went off a few more hours.

3:14:27BubblemanDamn you MedVet.

3:14:34SpeakerHey, Johnny B. I can't figure it out. There it is. John's pulling up the phone. Oh, dude.

3:15:05BubblemanWhat mask is that, Aaron?

3:15:09JohnnyWasn't that a dual bong rip? That's why I had two bongs in my hand.

3:15:15JohnnyI heard two big bongs, so I had two bongs. What was that? Two dongs, John? You said two bongs, so I grabbed two bongs.

3:15:32BubblemanJust talking. Hey, speaking of Josh, it's been Andy and Mason, the three random dudes that I met at the BCMP Vapor Lounge yesterday on the top floor while I was waiting for Christopher, who came up from Oil Slack. These were random nice dudes that I met and got to give a really good lowdown on sort of the differences between I mean, they just walked by and saw the mothership and kind of were tripping on it.

3:15:57BubblemanDidn't really know what it was, but had heard a little bit about the egg. They weren't sure this was it. And then they were real excited, so I invited them to sit down and I went through the OG Kush and the NYC Diesel and the... CBD Rene, even my seven-year-old Hindu Kush, Bubble Hash, and just, and the Barb, 99% actually. So we sat and had like a small gauntlet with these three dudes that had never smoked full melt dry sift or bubbled before, only oil, and it was an interesting education, just in a short.

3:16:30BubblemanYou spoiled them, educated them, I think you spoiled them, you ruined them for life. I kind of tried to explain that to them.

3:16:38SpeakerAt least you gave them the pre-warning. I think that's always fair. As long as you tell people first, I'm about to make a snob of you, be warned, and then do it, then that's fair. Yeah.

3:16:49BubblemanI said to them, I said, it could be a while before you see this again, or you could make the right choices and you could just have it in a very short period of time. You know what I mean? Some people are just all over that shit. They just figure it out. They're like, I need to have that. I'm going to figure out a way to do it.

3:17:08SpeakerYep, totally.

3:17:17BubblemanI missed a little bit of that, but just try to remember to mute your mic there, Johnny B. It comes back and reverberates when it's not on mute. And I'll mute mine now.

3:17:42BubblemanWell, now that no one's talking now, now I have to unmute my laptop.

3:17:45SpeakerDamn. Just log me out for a second, Bob. Do you also tell oil guys when you're about to hit this, you're not coming down anytime soon, and they're about to get fucked up even though they think they have a tolerance?

3:18:02BubblemanYeah, that was interesting because they all definitely said like at least about 30 or 40 minutes later that they were surprised at how high they still were. Because we hit all the flavors in all of like six minutes. It didn't take a long, it's not like we sat there and like puffed, you know, for 40 minutes. It was just like I did a round, a round, a round, a round, boom, I hit these guys hard and fast.

3:18:23BubblemanAnd then like half an hour later, they're like, wow, we're still really high. I'm like, yeah, well, of course, man. I'm like, what do you think?

3:18:29SpeakerPeople are used to equating the level of highness to the length of the session. They don't realize that when it's a serious saturation that this thing is going to be a serious length of time before it wears off.

3:18:43BubblemanI think they were particularly noticeable of the high when they got up. That's when I always would notice such a high. And dry sift is such a full profile that really the first time you really get rocked with a dry sift rip, a dry sift rip is... It's a somewhat memorable experience. That was the first time I ever heard If It Don't Bubble It Ain't Worth the Trouble in 1995 when I saw it drip down the stem of the pipe and Rob was all excited.

3:19:12BubblemanHe's like, look, look at it, it's just dripping right down the stem. That's the good stuff right there. I was like, oh shit.

3:19:19SpeakerMy first dry sift was at the DNA in Amsterdam.

3:19:25PeteExcellent. Yeah, a couple of years ago, fucking I was awesome, Cannabis Cup. It changed my world. First hit of Dry Sift, oh my God. What kind of Dry Sift was it? Man, it was New York Sour Diesel. Very lovely. Yeah, man. I smoked some two-year-old Chemdog with Ed. Fantastic. That was also probably the oldest hash I've ever smoked, and it was the most tastiest.

3:20:03SpeakerTotally changed my whole world.

3:20:08BubblemanMy friend has some in Amsterdam that's 24 years old this year, and I smoked it when it was 11, 12, 13, 16, and 17 years old. 17 was the oldest I smoked it at. It was full melt dry sift made in 91.

3:20:23PeteI was like a sophomore in high school.

3:20:27BubblemanYeah, I graduated that year. Jesus. What strain was it, Bob? It was the B67. It was like the old school skunk number one. Yeah.

3:20:47PeteI grew up in Maine in New Hampshire back in the early 90s, and we used to smoke a lot of NL number five, NL number one. And we also had some like goo and purple jasmine, some real funky stuff grown by some bikers back in the day that was only had by some really, really, really rare people. They didn't like to part with it too often. It was very expensive.

3:21:15PeteBut man, if I could get my hands on that, I've been looking for it for years. I'd love to actually find out exactly what it was. This stuff, I had a feel and a taste and a smell like I've never seen still in like the 23 years I've been smoking. And I've seen a lot of strains and I've never found anything like it.

3:21:37BubblemanIt could go into that book like urban cannabis legends or urban cannabis myths, you know, were they real? Are they just stories? Because everyone has that story of that one just ridiculous herb that they saw, of course, when they were younger. Which I think has a lot to do with the way we see it when we're younger. The way we experience it is so much more like, I don't know, I can just say I have a few stories myself of just different herbs from my past where I'm just like, man, I haven't seen anything like that since.

3:22:11BubblemanMaybe they're lost. Did we lose that much? Because that hurts if we did. Yeah, I hope not.

3:22:20PeteI hope I find that. I really do someday. All of a sudden it just comes around and someone's growing it and I'm smelling it and going, what the hell?

3:22:28BubblemanYeah. And then you could like get the terpene content profile and the cannabinoid profile and really have like a full understanding of what it actually is regardless of what anyone wants to call it.

3:22:38PeteThat made it stick inside your mind that, you know, like, yeah, exactly.

3:22:43JohnnyIt was like when I was doing the Tangy, it was like, what the... Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. It was amazing. Right? So, I mean, it was such a different, amazing flavor. And I mean, smoking weed, it took me right back to finding that new terpene. So when you first try something for the first time, those flavors are outrageous. I can go back when I was younger and I was trying different herbs.

3:23:12JohnnyAnd those flavors, they stick out because you've never tasted anything like that before in your life. So they're so unique. And I hear it from Mike a lot because he's new at smoking herbs. So, The flavors and the pines and all the different aromas he gets from it is quite unique. I think Horatio, he smiles when I said that.

3:23:33BubblemanAll right. Joe Human wants me to make it verbal that they need 107,000 signatures.

3:23:44BubblemanTo legalize freedom in MS, people can grow nine or less at home, medical, recreational. So I'm not sure where, I guess you would Google that unless he wants to put something more up that I can direct people to. If they want, if you're living in MS, what is that, Mississippi?

3:24:03PeteYeah, Mississippi.

3:24:04BubblemanSo if you're living down in Mississippi... Oh, look, there's D420K. He's in the YouTube chat, but he's not in this chat. Well, I know I sent him the link to this morning. He's in the group. That is for sure. All right. Sorry about that, guys. My brain freezes a little bit when I look at some of these other chats and stuff. Okay, maybe Joe Human's going to bring something up.

3:24:33BubblemanMore, no, yes. Is the creator, oh, Kelly Jacobs is the creator of Initiative Ballot 48. So I guess you can Google Kelly Jacobs and Ballot 48 Mississippi. So that would be one way. And, yeah, however, if you're in that neck of the woods and you want to help, help Get more freedoms in regards to cannabis and being able to possess and grow it, then I guess you might want to research that bill and figure out getting behind it.

3:25:07BubblemanMississippi. Cool.

3:25:13BubblemanThat's good. Has anyone talked about how the tribal nations can now trade interstate?

3:25:26BubblemanTony. Tony? I'm not sure. It was weird. He was just a set of hands there for a second.

3:25:36SpeakerIt was proper.

3:25:50SpeakerLet's hear some about the power of the Native Indians to get ahead of all other cannabis industries by their interstate power. Well, Reuters did an interview with us on this trip, and that's going to come out probably Monday. We also have a video that I'm going to put out that's already done that does an interview of Barry inside getting a videoed The owner of Foxbury and the reporter from Reuters.

3:26:25SpeakerAnd that kind of gives you an insight. But basically people have kind of a misunderstanding of how that works. And each tribe has to create its own ordinance. And in those ordinance, they have to have different types of commissions and rules. And so this has been worked on since early in 2014. And they're really strict. There's a commission's office, EPA office, The tribe doesn't actually work with this particular thing, doesn't actually have tribes working on the land, more of being kind of like an enforcement and agency with it, with their own ordinance, just similar to how a casino would be set up on their land.

3:27:09SpeakerAnd so the synergy in which we create is the ability to Also work with, they have a different type of herb farm and root farm and some different things that we can incorporate in our topicals and things. But the part that works really well in that sense of California is that there's a large grow facility, but it's not anything near like where people are like, it's all taking over, they're going to be growing so much.

3:27:41SpeakerIt's like 100,000 square feet of total space and of that there's, Thank you. Thank you.

3:28:21SpeakerIt's a really fluid plan to allow us to actually make all the products that we want to on this federally protected piece of land, if you will, that's exempt because they have their own ordinances and laws. So shipping it between tribes,

3:28:42SpeakerI mean, there's potential to do that, but these things are strategically laid out among Californians, so they're eight to ten hours apart. So you're, the whole point of why you would have three different points in California is because it's a long state, and so you have different markets for different parts of the state and different types of current networks that exist. So it's honestly just a first step approach The tribes are taking in the direction of medicinal herbs.

3:29:14SpeakerThey look at cannabis as a medicine, like a natural medicine. And so they don't pay a state tax. They pay a federal tax. They have laws that they have to enact. They have compliance that they have to follow. And there's systems that have been in place for them for quite some time now. So it's a way for us to get product to market a lot faster. We'll be able to actually do different things that we weren't necessarily able to do in California while the laws were being created in the legalization stage perhaps in 2016.

3:29:54SpeakerBut there's no state to state. Nothing leads to state.

3:30:00SpeakerNo, I mean that's still seriously more advanced in those synergistic opportunities than any other, you could say company or group of individuals that I've seen in at least the headlines have been able to do. I mean we have lots of corporations in Canada but They can't accomplish anything real and significant in the world. So even though it's not like what people think in a state to state transport and some above the law scenario, it is a major step to being like a normal world business where there is no taboo and they could get closer and closer to where that could become a possibility.

3:30:41SpeakerYeah, no, I agree. That's basically it. And the fact that, you know, with states still dealing with 280E, it's a crippling tax to any type of business that's trying to produce a seed-to-product type of business model. And so, you know, I think it gives us a little bit more, I say a little bit more sense of freedom to be able to, I don't know, do it in a time that's still volatile there.

3:31:14SpeakerBut there's still a big, huge patient base. And so, you know, our main objective is the Prana line of capsules, of linguals. Obviously, we want to be able to bring DNA genetics and seeds and be able to do through and through products that way with live resin and full melt and terp melt and all kinds of new terp stuff that we're going to do together. Just allows us to get into a market without having to have that full state.

3:31:46SpeakerThe state laws are just yet. So they build these ordinances and laws around already existing current ordinances in the counties. It's not like they're just saying, hey, we're going to put up this cannabis greenhouse factory right there. And there's nothing you can do about it. So it's definitely not anything like that. And it's not something that was inspired just because the DOJ came out. This is something that was being talked about for almost a year now.

3:32:26BubblemanI like your tree and Roman background, Tony, as you're speaking so seriously. It's very cool to see they have these trees, Roman background in the background. Very good, very good.

3:32:43SpeakerBut yeah, my brain's a little hurt from that trip, though, because there was a lot of back and forth on this jet to get to places.

3:32:53SpeakerAaron was on it. Are you complaining of the side effects of the jet setting life?

3:33:03SpeakerIt's definitely deep in my ears and inside here since I got back.

3:33:10BubblemanYeah, maybe one day international travel will become just a better experience than it currently is.

3:33:20SpeakerI'm not complaining about Jet Set. You can use Jet for transportation, though. As soon as I can dab on board, then it will be a much better experience.

3:33:28BubblemanYou can just come on with your whip and just plug it right into the little...

3:33:33SpeakerInto the seat. It should come with a special seat for dabbers where it just folds out and it's got the nails set up. You don't want to smoke on a jet, though, because then the pilots themselves are subjected to the smoke. And, you know, when you're going like Mach, almost Mach 1... The key is to train them high. If you train them high, then they're cool because then they've trained that way and then they know how to deal with it.

3:34:00SpeakerSo they just have to make sure that they don't get too high when they train and give them a good level of cannabinoid and then let them train. Then they'll be special smoker friendly pilots. Well, of course there are. Think of Snoop Dogg's pilot and Lenny Kravitz's pilot and the Rolling Stones. Oh, there are pilots that are well-trained. They're called celebrity pilots.

3:34:22AaronYou guys got to think about there's different planes. The plane we're on is like, literally it's like a military air vac plane. It's what they used it for in Norway, I think it was. It was Norwegian or some shit. And it's a jet. It's definitely a jet. A thing goes super fast. And, like, I don't know if they used it as a fighter jet or nothing, but it was pretty fast.

3:34:55AaronAnd that being said, you know, Tony, maybe you could try the, what do you call it? The bobsled, bro, if you want to feel some G-forces.

3:35:07SpeakerThat's what I was going to say. I'm like, you're talking like this is a bobsled jet. Like, you get in the jet, and it's like, we've got to go to the next row. Get in and suit up. I thought you guys were champagning it and dancing and no seatbelts and everything I've seen in the video.

3:35:23AaronFor me, it was like 30 minutes in the air. That's it. That's where you need to go. That's how fast we were going from L.A. To Northern California in 30 minutes. Boom. Going 800 miles an hour.

3:35:43BubblemanThat's very fast. Come on.

3:35:48SpeakerYou're getting a lot done now.

3:35:50BubblemanYou're getting a lot done. Breeders Steve and Neville are my heroes. Well, that's interesting because the first time I ever met Neville was with Breeders Steve in Arian's apartment right above the greenhouse off the Damrack, the Damstrat. Say that again. Just the first time I ever met Neville was back in like 2000, 2001 maybe.

3:36:21BubblemanAnd Steve was really in good with Arian back then. Arian just was like, it was a unique way to hang out with Arian, I'll say that much, because I was just like, wow, he was just so nice and so hospitable to Steve in every way, shape, or form that, yeah, it was a good experience. And that he had Neville hanging out upstairs in the apartment on one of the occasions that we went up there.

3:36:46BubblemanHoward Marks was also up there that time. That was the first time I'd kind of seen, met any of those guys in person.

3:37:01BubblemanWhen is Colorado going to finally get a public place for people to come and puff without worry? It was great to visit last June, though was a bit worried not knowing anyone there and being from a strict state.

3:37:14SpeakerNever. They're going to get worse. They're going to try to really crack down this year on all kinds of shit. So you have to remember that the MED here in Colorado is ex-cops. People that were ex-cops for the last 30 years have generally probably been arrested. You're also now in charge of their marijuana enforcement.

3:37:36AaronSo they have a strict... All they can do is trust cops, bro.

3:37:46SpeakerThat's it.

3:37:46AaronThat's the only people they can trust. Some cops that don't trust us. Yeah, sure.

3:37:53SpeakerI think there'll be other places in the world that I'll open up for smoking soon. Thanks for letting me know. You saw what they were doing in Jamaica with the sex and everything. They're making me crazy.

3:38:13BubblemanTake it easy, Ethan. He's going out to brave the mountain, but I just can't do the slush. I'm going to go poach the hot tub at the Westin Hotel, which should be fun. They've got a nice hot tub indoors and outdoors. Probably go up to the outdoor one, but if it starts raining too much, then just head on into the indoor one. It's tough living up here in Whistler.

3:38:34BubblemanI tell you, I could write a book on hot tub poaching here in the city or the village of Whistler because there's a lot of beautiful hot tubs with amazing views in different areas and if you And look like you belong there, you can get in pretty easy, which is just awesome.

3:38:56PeteWe've done that here in the Mediterranean as well.

3:38:59BubblemanNice.

3:39:02BubblemanSomeone in the chat is telling me, Joe, he's telling me that we met back in 2004 at my gallery, The Melting Point, and I shared a 17-week haze with him in a charcoal-sized brick of blueberry bubble hash. Back in July of 2004. That sounds good.

3:39:21SpeakerVery good.

3:39:25BubblemanYeah, I did hear the news, Michael Boyack, that Howard Marks had inoperable cancer, and you know what? It wasn't a huge surprise to me because he looked very sick when I saw him in Amsterdam get inducted into the Cannabis Culture Hall of Fame or whatever that was there. That was... I think it surprised a lot of us to see that he had... His health had been failing so much.

3:39:49BubblemanIt was unfortunate. Definitely was a big fan of his book and am a fan. I like Howard. Super nice dude. Enjoyed the few times I got to sit back and have conversations with him. And I hope he does well with it. I hope he kicks his ass. I hope he survives his cancer.

3:40:12SpeakerWell done. And then with that,

3:40:15BubblemanSeems like a lot of the old guys aren't really under the understanding of consuming it orally, you know?

3:40:22PeteIt's so good, dude. I've been juicing a lot lately, and it feels so good in them.

3:40:28SpeakerYep.

3:40:29PeteEverything works great, you know what I mean, when you juice. I like to work out, too, so it's like when you juice, you feel like you're getting what you're missing, you know? In so many ways, it's so healthy. I mean, everything I've done for like nutritional research, it's the healthiest thing you could possibly do. And hemp protein, add that in your diet, whoo.

3:41:01PeteYeah, it's all good for sure. You know, a few abs, a good heart.

3:41:10SpeakerAnkyloma, yeah. I think I'm going to take off from the house church.

3:41:15BubblemanYeah, I'm going to shut her down in about 18 minutes, Tony. It's been almost three hours, but thank you very much for joining us. As always, it was a pleasure. Thank you for having me. I'll give you a call a little later on today, maybe. All right, man. Peace, Tony. Good to see you again.

3:41:32SpeakerPeace, Tony. We'll talk to you soon.

3:41:36AaronManana. Manana.

3:41:39SpeakerManana.

3:41:40AaronFor real, man. All right. All right, you guys. I think I'm going to check out with Tony now too.

3:41:50BubblemanAll right, Aaron. Thanks for coming in, bud. Sorry I waited 44 minutes to send you the link as you were like literally I think you texted me at like 6.30 in the morning or 7 in the morning like where's the link for Hash Church, man?

3:42:04AaronHey, whatever. I'm here. Thanks for having me. Thanks. Thanks, bud. You guys have a good game.

3:42:19BubblemanLooking forward to this, just sitting in a room that's slightly cold for three and a half hours and I've sort of, I've almost got that little bit of a shiver in me. I'm going to be looking damn forward to hitting the hot tub.

3:42:36PeteI'm envious. I think I'm going to laugh. I think I'm going to go join my missus for a little while. It's almost 10 o'clock at night here.

3:42:44BubblemanAwesome, dude.

3:42:45PeteWell, thanks for coming in and sharing your stories. Cheers, man. We'll see you again next week. Have a good one, dude. Good to see you. It's true. Johnny B, appreciate it. Take care. All right.

3:43:03JohnnyBen. Who's Ben? I'm definitely making hash today, guys. And, you know, I'll probably do that later. And I think I'm going to wash that. Oh, that would be the watermelon that I grew back in September. And it was very fine. So that's my next run.

3:43:24BubblemanThat sounds good.

3:43:25JohnnyYeah. You know, you got to do that. It is hash. We make hash on Sundays, 50 Sundays, hash church. I should make hash. I've been to Dry Sift, yeah. Actually, there is one old plant upstairs. Someone made a comment, there's one hanging in my garage. I forgot about that one, too. A good old day for making hash, of course, as always.

3:43:48BubblemanYeah, every day is a good day for making hash. You can't go wrong with that, I'll tell you.

3:43:51JohnnyIt's just... You got to dig in the air freezer, too, and make some hash.

3:43:56BubblemanYeah, you know, I've got my leaf frozen and saved, so I can juice that and I freeze that, what I juice, and I've got, you know, pounds of bud that I've just got frozen that are ready to, like, they're ready to go. I keep them in a nice moisture-free environment so they don't have any, I've gotten rid of any type of ice or freezer burn or moisture that's getting trapped in the bags, and it's just a matter of, like, feeling them a multitude of times.

3:44:34SpeakerWell, I mean, I haven't done this yet because I don't freeze, but there's also those packets that remove oxygen that you do in the Mylar for storing, like, dried foods. But for freezing, you can also, those oxygen suckers, they take the oxygen out of the bag, which also, pretty much, it also changes the way the ice forms, so it doesn't form in the same shape that tends to destroy the cell wall.

3:45:02BubblemanRight. Right.

3:45:09SpeakerSo, you know, maybe somebody on one of those survivalist websites that orders them by the 50,000 pack will give it a shot and see how it helps preserve their bud.

3:45:18BubblemanNice.

3:45:19SpeakerThe survivalist websites.

3:45:30BubblemanWell, you know what? I think I'm going to call it a church here as we have a nice moment of silence, and I want to thank everyone for coming in. We had a good church, I think. It was almost four hours, three hours and 45 minutes, so shit! Thank you all for tuning in. Very cool. I hope that we discussed some things that were valid content to you guys.

3:45:51BubblemanOtherwise, I want to thank all my friends just for coming and shooting the shit with me on this Nice Sunday morning, afternoon, and evening, depending on where you are in this big world of ours. So, thank you, True. Thank you, Horatio. Thank you, Johnny B. And thanks, everyone that was in church today, and all the people in chat. Thank you. We were close to 400 people today, so let's get it up to 500 next week.

3:46:20BubblemanI'll hit up live... The live event on my YouTube channel and you guys will be able to save that link, copy that link and shoot it out onto your social medias to see if we can't get a nice large group next week. And we'll invite Rob Clark and Dr. David Allen and some of the people that missed today. Hopefully it'll just be another great hash church. Thanks for tuning in everybody.