Whistler Session: Terpene Isolation, Dabbing Culture and Jamaican Hash Heritage

0:02BubblemanWell, hello, hello, hello, and welcome to Hash Church, episode 17, live and direct from Whistler, British Columbia. Now, what I'll do today that I don't normally do is I'll go mute the YouTube chat so you don't have to hear that, and I will send out the links to the crews. We've got, I've sent the link out to 11 people today. If I hear the link in this room, I will mute it.

0:34BubblemanSo please, just, you know, you can do that. Don't come in with the mic on, buddy.

0:40SpeakerWhoever's got their sound on, please.

0:42BubblemanOh, Aaron, you're muted. It's Tony, I'll mute it. You got... Tony's going to need to get himself some headphones because his mic is causing muchos problemas. I think his speakers are so loud that my voice comes through. But welcome, both of you, Tony and Aaron. And man, I'm glad it worked for you today, Aaron. How's that work? Bubble man's world. Dude, that works perfect, Tony. What did you just do that made that work so good?

1:16BubblemanThat was literally usually when people... What about now? Yeah. That sounds good. As long as when the rest of us talk, we don't come through, that's perfect. It's really perfect. Welcome, guys. Welcome, Aaron and Horatio and Tony. What's up? Oh, Tony's... You guys can hear me, can you?

1:37AaronYeah.

1:38BubblemanYeah. Yeah. Well, I just sent the link out. I'm glad that it worked out for Aaron this time. He wasn't able to get in last week, and he was trying, and hopefully it works as well for... How about now? Hey, Tony.

1:55SpeakerDoes it sound better now? It sounds great. Okay. I used Apple TV, and the Apple TV was interfering before, so now you won't have that.

2:06BubblemanOh, dude, that's so good because, you know, you're one of our sort of premier people for talking and sharing knowledge, and people are always very anxious. I'll tell you, I got so much shit for accidentally muting you last week. People were in the room going, fuck it, I'm leaving. If I can't hear Tony talk, I'm out of here.

2:27SpeakerHow are you doing, though, and Horatio and Aaron? Dude. Johnny B. Johnny B. Johnny B. I've lost 20 pounds since Europe, bro. Damn. Getting rights, buddy. You know what? I think we're both on the weight loss program. That's for sure.

2:48BubblemanFuck, good for you guys, man. Good for you guys. That's got to feel good. Well, you can actually breathe. I don't think of you guys as like... Thank you for joining us.

3:29BubblemanAnd all of that's fine. It's right up until that point where you drop the melts. You know, you've got your little container of the melts and you drop it and you go to pick it up and you can't pick it up and it's like, fuck this.

3:40SpeakerSee, that's what was happening.

3:42BubblemanFuck this. Welcome, Todd. Good morning. Kay was feeling a little under the weather, but Todd made it. I see he's got his morning smoothies, his morning doobie, his morning de-nail. Any other morning things you got going on under the table there, Todd, that we should know about?

3:59ToddMorning girl.

4:00BubblemanAh, the morning girl. That's what I was looking for. Terrible of me. Kay overlooked the necessities, bro. I know you like to live a good life. Welcome, Dr. David Allen.

4:19SpeakerWhat's up, Aaron? What's up, Todd? How are you, brother? Happy New Year. What's up, brother? Happy New Year. Are you home in Holland? Shit, bro. This is where I'm at right now. I'll just let you look out my window. Ooh, that was a Cali sound. Oh, let me click on that. Wait a minute. Oh, what's up, bro?

4:38ToddWe got you home. All right, that's a lot. You're in Canada. Holy shit. Where are you?

4:46SpeakerWho, me?

4:47ToddYou look like you're in a land far, far away, bro. Motherfucking getting this fucking Adonald snowman high and shit.

4:57SpeakerI'm in SoCal, bro. SoCal? Isn't that snow? Watch this. No, that's white light.

5:05SpeakerWhich we call, that's what we call sunny and warm today. Beautiful day. Oh, that is, I'm down with sunny and warm. That's much better than Amsterdam's cold, wet, and miserable.

5:20SpeakerI have to say, Canada was excellent, and I miss the snow.

5:24BubblemanDude, well, you know what, when you go to Canada, Canada's a big country, it's like saying Russia's nice or something, but you came to like the most epic place at the most ridiculously wonderful time with such a great group of people that, I can tell you, I spend 50 to 100 days in Whistler every year, and that trip Was truly like a special trip.

5:49SpeakerI thank you for that, Mark, because it was special.

5:52BubblemanI thank you for that, actually, Aaron, because, you know, funny enough, you were really the force that put that trip together. I'm always going up to Whistler. I invite my friends all the time. But the minute you said you were coming to Whistler, man, my friends were calling me up going, hey, are we going to Whistler? Are we going up to Whistler? And I'm like, dude, I'm always up in Whistler.

6:10BubblemanWhat changed your mind? Fucking unity in the community, bro.

6:16SpeakerRespect.

6:16BubblemanEverybody wants to smoke Aaron's good weed. Hell yeah. Well, we were taking care... You know what? Really, Matt, Matt was taking care of all of us. I mean, really, I felt like I didn't really have the best of the best, but Matt really made our trip. I mean, he had... What did he have? Eight different kinds, Aaron?

6:36SpeakerI just know I smoked all of the barb pretty much, bro. You did smoke all of the barb. It was by far like When you got to pick out of all the nine or twelve jars, whatever it was, it was... I opened all of them, I looked at the color, and I was like, that barb, and I just... Every time I work up the piece, and... Yeah, that shit was bomb.

7:01SpeakerBut, you know, I think I'll... I'll throw a shout-out to Tricom Heavy Extractions right now, and I'm about to hit my kosher full melt that they made for some of my friends over here.

7:10BubblemanHell yeah, dude, I'll tell you, it was... It was fun hanging out with Remo the other day and hitting... We had a little session. I don't know if you guys saw it, but we smoked six different kinds of herb that he had grown with his new nutrients. Tony's just open blasting here in Hash Church right now.

7:33BubblemanThat torch is so old school. Listen, he unplugged all his electronics. It's totally safe.

7:39SpeakerI just prefer, I mean, it's funny because all I have is full melt on me. Of course you do.

7:46BubblemanAll you have, you poor bastard.

7:49SpeakerI come heavy. I got something similar. I got some cataract killer. I'm sure it's nothing like what Aaron's got right now, though.

8:00BubblemanYeah, he's hitting the 90U Kosher Dry Nug Run.

8:06SpeakerIt ain't fresh frozen over here, boys. How is it? It's really good, bro. All right. I wish I had like an e-nail or a d-nail that I could use, but I'm not so technical like you guys these days, you know? I'm just using this. I'm making a sponsor.

8:25BubblemanAh, it's a quartz. I got my d-nail here. I guess I could... Are you saying you need a d-nail, Aaron? Is that what you just said?

8:34SpeakerI'll get one. I just got this little piece right here.

8:37BubblemanWell, let me help out and talk to Brian and those guys and see what they can do. I'm sure we could whip up a little DNA army, maybe like a pelican case one that's like the ninja nail. It's sealed in a tiny little pelican case and you just roll in.

8:51SpeakerSo it's safe all the time?

8:53BubblemanIt's safe all the time and it's easier. I mean, you're putting it in and out of a pelican case if you're carrying it with you anyway. And what I find is people buy these things thinking, oh, I'm just going to put it in my office. And then you realize the importance of having it, and then you take it to Amsterdam and you blow the power at the Sensi Seed Building.

9:12BubblemanOh! That's my story! Oh wait, that's right, my story was blowing the power. I blew the power at the Krasnopolsky, my bad. That is hilarious. Did you see my video, Todd, of me pooching my D-nail that I put up in Amsterdam this year?

9:27ToddNo, technically. I should have made a video of mine, though.

9:30BubblemanI put a video up going, hey guys, how's it going? I'm just plugging in the D-mail, and then I'm walking around, I sit down, and then I'm going to take the hit, and I'm like, what the hell? And you can see it happen as it's happening. I'm like, no. No. And I start kind of walking around the room. I'm like, oh, fuck, fuck. And I literally thought it was really funny, and it was a neat sort of honest moment that I should share with people.

9:53BubblemanAnd man, did people laugh. Oh, man. You hear me in the background in the kitchen going, fuck!

10:02SpeakerFuck!

10:06BubblemanYou know. For you today, David? Can we hear you today, Dr. David Allen? No, he's still playing. He had to do this last week for, you know what, it doesn't matter. Persist. You're always worth waiting for. Even if you've got to redo everything and get your Bluetooth back on, we want to hear what you have to say. So whatever you do, don't get upset with shitty technology and not show up.

10:40BubblemanPower outage. Wow.

10:42ToddThat was a big hit, Aaron.

10:44BubblemanMatt just sent me a picture of a tree that just about fell on his house. He's got a power outage and he's not able to make it into Hash Church right now. Oops. Yeah, Rick's seen the video. He knows. Why does Matt always have an excuse? Say? Go ahead, Aaron. I was going to say, why does Matt have an excuse all the time? Well, you know what?

11:09BubblemanHe honestly doesn't anymore because Matt now has moved. And because he doesn't live far away, he used to drive two hours every day to and from his place. So that I kind of hinted at him is hash church time now. Once a week, not every day. He's saving 14 hours a week. He can use 12 of them to do his growing and trimming and seed breeding and such.

11:31BubblemanBut I don't know. I think that he should come in and make his way into hash church. Both of you guys, out of all the people that I've been getting emails about, I mean obviously people are stoked. On all the regulars, they're stoked on Horatio and Johnny B and Dave and Todd and Tony. But they're also really stoked to hear more from DNA. They're stoked to hear from Matt the Great Gardener.

11:55BubblemanYou guys have a lot of information. And although you have social media and you guys do all the shows, there's really not that many places that people could literally come and just hear you drop knowledge. Every once in a while, once a week here in Hash Church. So I'm happy that you're here, brother. How do I get to the little chat bar on the side? Go to the top left on this box with your cursor, and there's a little blue box above the green box with the arrow.

12:24BubblemanThere it is. Yep. There's not always people chatting in there, but we got quite a few people chatting in... Hash Church right now, and if anyone has any questions, you know, for anyone in the room, we're just, it's early, everyone's earlyed up, so we're going to hit a couple of bowls and start sort of getting Hash Church going. We're hoping that Samantha's going to come in today.

12:47BubblemanI guess I could also send the link out to our good friend, Mr. Robert Connell-Clark. He was such a pleasure to have in church the other day. Yeah. He's not back yet.

13:01SpeakerWhere is he in Thailand?

13:04BubblemanIs he in Thailand or is he in Amsterdam right now? No, Amsterdam was last week. Ah, yeah, so he was just there for a short period. Hash Church. Well, he did send me a clip the other day saying, hey, listen, send me that link to Hash Church whenever you can. So we make sure we send that out to him.

13:26BubblemanOh, wow, Horatio is saying he just lost power at his house. Wendy, Wendy, Wendy. Did he dump out of the chat? Is it Canada we're talking about? Yes, Canada. It's windy as fuck up here in Canada. Major generalization. Hey, welcome, Samantha. Hey. And Samantha's boyfriend. I forgot your name already, bro. What was your name again? Ben. Ben. I won't forget again. Ben. Ben and Samantha, right on guys, glad to see your smiling faces.

13:58BubblemanYou know, I noticed the other day as I re-watched the video of Samantha 800 times with like a thousand different people, I noticed that you not only smile with your mouth, but you smile with your eyes. And I think that is something that we really appreciate here in Hash Church. So I thank you for that.

14:19SamanthaThank you. It's good to smile. You're never fully dressed without a smile.

14:24BubblemanRight? And you know what? I think that it's, I mean, everyone loves to see everyone smile, but it's especially powerful when, you know, you tell the most Amazing story of just, you know, like what most of us can't really fathom. We've all had different roads, and I'm not going to say anyone's road is more difficult than anyone else's, but wow, man, the road and the cards that you were dealt and the way that you dealt with them, it's a huge inspiration.

14:51BubblemanAnd I'd say that, you know, you talking in Hash Church the other day was pretty much by far the most... Inspirational moment we've had and these are the things that I'm trying to recreate. Getting more people... Oh shit. Sorry. I missed D420K. Johnny B, did you not send the D420K the link? We got D420K coming in here soon. Sorry about that. I guess that's spaced. It's very hard for me to remember to send out Links to so many people, but I do apologize.

15:27BubblemanD420K is... Oh, he's saying nope. Okay, well, I don't really have time for past church drama. I'm sorry I forgot to send the link out. I do apologize. I feel bad now. That's not the best way to start church, but what are you going to do? Do a dab. I'm agreeing with that. I'll take a dab. That sounds like a plan. Got a little bit of the CBD Renee here.

15:54BubblemanAnd how did things go, Samantha? Did some people send you an email? Did you get in touch with anyone? Did anyone sort of...

16:04SamanthaYeah, yeah, yeah, we've had great response actually. Quite a few people have got in touch, which has been fabulous. And yeah, really good response. People have been really nice. And I think for me it just shows what a lovely community the cannabis community is. Everyone's so sharing and caring and just wants to help really. So it's really nice.

16:28BubblemanAwesome. Well, that's great to hear. It is true, you know, it's... In this community we have this incredible demon that sits behind everyone watching them so closely and in certain countries people are a little more afraid than others and even after the little bit of help that we, you know, the help really came so naturally. It wasn't forced. It was never asked for. You know, it was just a matter of hearing your story and people saying, hey, I want to help.

16:56BubblemanI have gotten so many emails from so many different people that have All sorts of different problems since this moment. And lo and behold, they're all looking for help. So it'll be an interesting thing to see how we can figure that out. I mean, people want to help people. And we're in this weird gray area right now where we've got a guy like Tony, a company like United Cannabis, and guys like Kay from Tricom Technologies moving these things forward.

17:26BubblemanBut at a rate that it's, you know, it's not available. You can hear about it, but then you can't go and buy it or acquire it. So it's this really, really strange gray area that we're in right now that, well, I'll just look forward to getting out of this area and having it just be like, man, it's everywhere. You can go here for it. You can go there for it.

17:47BubblemanYou can acquire it through a bunch of different companies are doing a bunch of different things and we need to get there sooner than later.

17:55SamanthaYeah, I would... Yeah, definitely, definitely.

18:00SpeakerThat is like the fundamental driving force of why I decided to kind of try to branch out past River Rock and then create the programs and the products and then put it into United Cannabis. And people are like, well, I don't understand why you would do that. It's because we're not allowed to cross borders or country lines with medicine, so it makes it extremely complicated to try to duplicate...

18:26SpeakerThese types of higher quality products in the UK or different places. And so to me, they're access points. They're production facilities that can productize medicine that allow for more access. And at the same time, it's breaking down the walls and creating reform, innovative reform along the way and trying to make sure that everyone's not left out. And I think that's where the Where you see such a big strength in the community is because there's different types of divisions of the community.

19:02SpeakerThere's obviously the social and recreational side. You've got hardcore medical cannabis components that are out there now. You've got hemp, industrial hemp. You've got nutritional sectors. You've got newer sectors coming up, stuff that we're going to really push on in the biotech world with. Different types of technologies that we could use on a gene level and try to help people in conditions that we feel that perhaps cannabis could be a missing link.

19:36SpeakerSo it's really about everybody trying to break down the same wall at the same time and then some people are getting to that wall faster but the community is still there with those people and everyone should have a voice right now because it's forming. So if people say, hey, we need to release people from prison that are in prison for cannabis and there's a condition to that, then that should be part of the entire movement.

20:02SpeakerIf somebody says, I need to be able to access certain types of cannabis-based medicine, then that should be part of the movement, as well as completely understanding that this plant is socially acceptable and can be used responsibly, just like alcohol in our society. And it should be allowed for that use too. So that's why I think the community is so strong because everyone's fighting for like a civil right for the plant and some division of that plant.

20:36SpeakerYeah, Tony, I think... Tony, can you hear me?

20:40ToddYeah, I can hear you loud and clear. I think you're totally right. I think this is a human rights issue. The more you get into it, the more it is. Lately, I've been pushing what I call adult use instead of recreational use because I feel that it's a fundamental human right to existence. Our medical rights should be inalienable human rights, whereas if you're sick, there shouldn't be another human being in the way of you getting a simple plant or a flower that could remedy your Well, there's no surprise that this is...

21:39BubblemanAnd not accident. It's not accidental. This is an agenda. And I think the more and more I learn about the incredible, you know, having Dr. David Allen last week talk about the endocannabinoid system as really the endocannabinoid signaling system, this really opened my eyes and my thoughts to how the endocannabinoid system is working. It's signaling things. It's signaling hunger and sleep and memory and it's signaling all of these biological functions and that's really how it's able to regulate Our systems.

22:10BubblemanAnd to think that we've been kept from that, really the entire medical establishment probably exists right now based on that. That one simple fact. Let's keep them from phytocannabinoids. We'll allow them to have essential amino acids, but we'll confuse and muddle the information so they really never consume them in a proper dose. If you remember the gentleman who won the Nobel Peace Prize for discovering vitamin C, The doses that he talks about are in the grams and the doses that people take them are in the milligrams.

22:45BubblemanSo most people taking vitamin C get almost nothing from it. I had a good friend who spent six years in prison in Texas. He was a Hawaiian grower. He was taken from Hawaii, extradited to Texas. He was a vegan who had never consumed meat and all of a sudden he was in a prison being fed bologna sandwiches. I know you know this all too well, Todd. And so He used vitamin C in prison, hyperdosing it, and basically kept himself from getting really ill.

23:15BubblemanSo I think it's an agenda that they keep us sick.

23:19ToddWell, I'd like to point out, you know, it's funny you say that, because if anybody watched the Michael Morris documentary called Sicko, he was interviewing the French health minister, and he asked the French health minister if he thought we would ever have socialized medicine in America, and his response was simply that, oh no, you have too many people, and if they were all healthy, you could never control them.

23:41ToddAnd I thought, wow. I mean, to think that the medical system being unaffordable would be a mechanism of social control, it never entered my mind until I heard him say that. And truthfully, they outlawed cannabis before we knew what vitamins and minerals were. Because when they were pushing this legislation federally through in the 30s, we didn't have vitamins and minerals in our system. Thank you so much for joining us.

24:31SpeakerI've totally forgot where I was going now. Fuck. Hey, welcome to Hash Church, dude. That means... You're right. I think you were going to say welcome to both the... It wasn't about the... Say again, Tony. Sorry. I was trying to see if I could pull that thought for you.

24:49ToddWell, my thought was, Tony, Aaron, you're right. It wasn't about the chemicals or the chemistry when they outlawed it. It was about fundamentally hemp competing with natural agricultural products that they were trying to replace. Like bringing in nylon was the way that they needed hemp to get off the scene or they would never compete.

25:07BubblemanBut you know what? Let's take it back even further and let's go back to before these guys, the businessmen, the corporate douchebags. I took over going back, I don't know how many, 100, 200 years, about 100 years. But before that, we had religion. And what did religion do? Religion went into every culture. Christianity, when I say religion. Christianity went into every color, and it removed the sacrament that was plant-based.

25:34BubblemanIt removed plant-based sacraments, and it replaced them with the blood of Christ, i.e., alcohol. And so, this goes back so, so far of them wanting to fuck with our herbs, wanting to seriously remove sacraments. Do you know what a major historical context that is? Like, how major of a turning point for every culture that had the Christians come in and strip them of their sacraments and say, no, no, no, you don't need this plant, you need this booze.

26:03SpeakerSo... I agree with everything we're all saying, and I think to add to that, to really simplify it for those who are trying to look into the cannabis industry, not knowing anything, it's simply as this. We've all seen when we grew up as kids in grade school what happens when we remove bananas out of society. Just remove bananas. Bananas no longer exist on the planet right now.

26:30SpeakerAnd if you remove bananas, a lot of things start to happen to societies. Look at the movie like Castaway or if you're on a deserted island and all you had was coconuts and that has electrolytes, it has food and proteins and essentials. Remove the coconut. That's how essential it is. So what that would do long term, just like taking opiates, long term how it breaks down the system and the signaling system, we never have a chance to even turn the signaling system on, let alone we start to degenerate it Thank you so much for joining us today.

27:29BubblemanYeah, and that's, you know, comparing, it's interesting when you compare the bananas. Anyone that's ever traveled to the Caribbean. What about tomatoes? A fair amount of times. Tomatoes. Don't even mess with my tomatoes, man.

27:41SpeakerYou won't have no pizzas, bro. Ooh.

27:46BubblemanI need pizza.

27:47ToddYeah, I need pizza too.

27:51BubblemanHey, we're 28 minutes into Hash Church. We've got over 300 people. Once again, I do want to apologize to D420K. I know he's upset right now. I forgot about him and forgot to send him the link, and he's one of my closest friends. So I apologize, D420K. Hopefully we can get you back in here and smoking a bowl and understanding that I'm human, I'm fallible, I make mistakes.

28:14BubblemanThis is one of the main reasons I don't fuck with BHO. I would potentially blow up. Man, that fire sounds nice, dude. Hey. I'm here at Devin's again. He's got a nice little whistler fire going. Say hi, Dev. What's up, Dev? Yeah, good to see you, bro.

28:41SpeakerHow are you?

28:42BubblemanAwesome, man. Just been enjoying the snow. We're finally getting more snow back here, so making the best of it, dude.

28:47SpeakerNice, bro.

28:48BubblemanWell, be safe. Be safe. Yeah, funny you should say that. He damn near crippled himself about a week and a half ago. Last time, last week's Hash Church, he was sitting here with a very badly bruised lower back. Up here in Whistler, what we have is we have the healthiest of people destroying themselves.

29:12SpeakerMy back is still fucked up.

29:15BubblemanDude, that's not funny. And B, that was from the Coca-Cola tube park. How do you even tell that story?

29:23SpeakerDude, you would have been getting helicoptered out of like this, the kiddie, it's like the most kiddiest of kiddiest places you can go on the mountain. Okay, well here's the thing. And you get injured.

29:35BubblemanBut here's the thing. Do you not think that when we were going backwards on that tube, right at the top of the peak and you thought you were going to fly, weren't you more scared then than even in the bobsled?

29:50SpeakerUm... Bob Sled was pretty fucking, like, I look at that, I show that video, like, every other day, bro.

29:58SpeakerAnd I can't tell you, like, Tony, you're going to see the video, bro. We're going to be on the plane together, and you're going to see the video, homie. I'm going to show it to all of you, like, there's, like, something I could broadcast on the TV on the plane, I'm going to, like, put that shit up there. Because it was so fast, and, like, just... Just the way you feel going into it, my back's already sore.

30:22SpeakerAnd now I've got to pull four G's. Mark watched me sink into my thing. Four G's, I just kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller. I was like, holy shit. And finally we were going uphill and slowing down for like two football fields.

30:40BubblemanAnd what you should mention, because a lot of people might not understand G-force, but four G's for Aaron... Is about 795 pounds of pressure that would be pushing down on his body around the, I guess, final three turns. I believe that's where we were in the three and a half to four G range. I mean, my God, was that, I tell people to this day, that was one of the funnest things I've ever done, like for 40 seconds.

31:08SpeakerYou guys were together in the sled?

31:11BubblemanYeah, dude, like, together is an understatement. It's closer than I've ever been with Aaron.

31:21SpeakerI'm glad I had some strange chick in front of me.

31:26BubblemanYeah, you know, when you go up to Whistler, it's always nice to get some of that strange.

31:33BubblemanYeah, what a funny experience, really. All right, another bong rip is in order. We won't have the loud fire going the whole time. We're just getting the kindling going. So it's a real, hopefully nice, warm feeling for you guys at Hash Church to hear the crackling of the fire.

31:51SpeakerI'm wearing shorts here in California.

31:53AaronI don't know about you guys.

31:56SpeakerIt's about 70, 67 degrees right now. Almost 70 degrees. Not like, really no clouds.

32:10BubblemanTough living that Cali life, man.

32:15SpeakerIt's hard to leave it when you have other opportunities elsewhere.

32:19BubblemanSpeaking of opportunities, you want to give the room a little lowdown on the latest and the greatest from DNA Genetics? You can go as deep or as shallow as you want to go. A lot of people want to hear about it.

32:32SpeakerI want to point to my left, to the guy to my left, but I don't know. On the bottom little screen where it has the cameras, I don't know who's on my left on there, so I'm pointing to my left. I'm going to defer it to that dude. What's new? I don't know. There's a lot of things new. We've got the Grow Your Own Collection coming out soon, which is basically we've been working on a plan to produce varieties in greater numbers.

33:06SpeakerCertain varieties greater than... Don says it's 85 in Aruba, by the way. He can't get it to work.

33:14BubblemanDamn. We need to go chill. We gotta go see Don in Aruba after our next trip to Jamaica, Tony.

33:20ToddWhoa, whoa, whoa. What are the laws on cannabis in Aruba? That's Dutch-owned, isn't it?

33:26SpeakerNo, it's not so... I don't think my Dutch medical would work there, Todd. Oh, man. But are they still on the gilder? What do they use for currency?

33:41BubblemanYou know, I have no clue, bro. Don't they have American dollar much like Panama with the amount of offshore bank accounts that happen?

33:49SpeakerEverything's barter. It's barter with seeds. No, they're bartering with fish, man. Homie goes out. He showed me his bank yesterday. He caught like 20-something fish, bro. And then they just sell it to the restaurant. Boom. Has Don done the spearfishing yet? I don't think he can get below 10 feet without his ears hurting. That's what I tried to tell him. That's what we all said. Remember? I might get in trouble for saying that right now.

34:23BubblemanHey, you know what? Some people can equalize and some people can't. My wife had a terrible time trying to equalize while scuba diving in Southeast Asia. Took her Way longer than the rest of us just to get down to like, you know, 40 feet, which really is, when you're in the tropics, 40 feet is as deep as you really have to go unless you're looking to see a specific thing or go down a wall.

34:45BubblemanOnce you get into the 80 to 100 foot range, you're looking at nitrogen narcosis potential. You're looking at a very limited amount of time that you'll be able to stay down there as you'll use your breath four times faster than you would at, say, 20 feet. And then sometimes, in order to acquire, or to not acquire the bends, there's also stops that are required as you come up.

35:09BubblemanWe've got that on. Toddy B. There, thank you. He's quick. He's quick. He's not mucking around. That's very awesome when you guys can take care of that for me. Then I don't have to worry about it. All right. Get Mr. Cookie in here.

35:23SpeakerOh, wait. See, I'm getting text messages now from Don since he can't get in on this thing. For some reason, he says...

35:34SpeakerHe freedove 25 feet. Oh, wow. Okay. Did he shoot anything? Well, I have to wait for another text message. He can't get on this fucking thing. I heard in Aruba, they don't have cell phones. They have more of a typewriter that sends text messages out. Like a big one that you wear on your wrist? Yeah, no, it's like... And then you, like, hit a button, and that's, like, how you have to text message.

36:08BubblemanSo I sent the link out to Jibs and Ken, so we might see those guys at the Tricom Heavy Extracts factory later today. Is that the same link you sent me, Todd? I mean, Mark? It's the same link, yeah, it should be the same link.

36:23SpeakerYeah, he just hit me up. Kevin says... He'll be in the lab in a bit. Thanks. And then he says, thanks, homie. So he'll probably set up the computer while they're in the lab making hash today.

36:37BubblemanThat'd be great. I'd love to have those guys in here making some hash. I mean, how great would that be? Hash Church and, you know, I've only made hash in Hash Church a couple of times. Just to have it in the background. It's like music. Thank you for watching.

37:17BubblemanWhat else? I guess what I was going to say earlier when we were talking about the prana and the sort of products and the, you know, with Samantha talking about getting people help, you must get the most unbelievable abundance of emails in regards to this, Tony.

37:33SpeakerYeah, that's why I was talking about trying to get off Facebook because it's like hundreds of messages that I can't even get to. And then we try to, so we're trying, we actually have the link with the software, so it's The whole time was, I was just doing this out of River Rock, but the actual link that we have for the Act Now program doesn't require patients to be at River Rock.

37:57SpeakerThe whole idea was to get it outside of that center and expand it to as many centers as possible so people can access it. That's what I've been gearing up to do this year, and then from there, that's what Vegas is for, and that's a state that's reciprocal. So any patient that has a medical card can actually visit There's a reciprocal state there. And that's why it's important.

38:23SpeakerAnd then California with the tribes, it's interesting to see that was the feedback on that because people must think that we just kind of like picked it out of the air and was like, hey, we're just going to go and start growing on tribal land. You know, like that's been a year of talking, dancing, dating before you get married. You know, it's a long time making sure that you can consult with how each sovereign nation has their laws and their governing laws and stuff.

38:58SpeakerAnd those types of things take a long time because there's a lot of concept and thought and culture and spirituality. Like in Jamaica, there's, you know, spiritual Rastafarian use, cannabis. There's also places for that in native and tribal culture. You know, and each tribe has their own type of unique Concerns. So that takes a long time to like talk about things and get to know each other.

39:22SpeakerIt's like when we became friends, it's easy for us to become friends because we're kind of the same age, we're in the same industry, we've been around the same time. We appreciate, you know, the plant for its entirety and we appreciate hash and so we have this common bond and it's easy. But imagine if someone didn't have that common bond but wanted it. All of these people wanted to have the same freedom and wanted to have the same expression to help people, you know, because they're natural healers, right?

39:55SpeakerAnd so that's been a year in the making and now what we're going to be able to do is work with farmers in California and be able to process and cultivate on tribal land and be able to get the products into the marketplace. So it's been a long process and it's all coming from those emails. It's all coming from the contacts from people because the worst part is not being able to help somebody when you know you can help them.

40:29SpeakerAnd at first it used to keep me up. It used to make me cry all the time because it was like the worst feeling. And now it's like I feel like I just have to work as hard as I can, put my head down and say, okay, how can I get that there? As fast as possible. And, you know, work within the legal laws and limitations of what everything that's on the board offers.

40:52SpeakerSo with the tribes, it's something that they don't need to wait for California to get their laws together because they have their own. And then they have exemption just like they do in other things. And so it's a natural fit. You know, they already have tobacco and they have other things. So for me, it's kind of like jump-starting the system, and I hope it inspires legislation in that state to, you know, come together as a, you know, one of the biggest markets in the country and try to figure out a way, you know?

41:29ToddWell, you know, Tony, it's interesting because going back to what we were saying about equal rights, Cannabis is non-indigenous to North America. Congress has been allowing the DEA to eradicate it specifically because they quote, it's not indigenous to this continent. And to give the native people the right to cultivate something that was brought here by us, the Europeans from Europe, And not give us, the people who brought it, the right to cultivate it, is a little strange.

41:57ToddI mean, not to sound weird, I mean, the Native American people started cultivating it after we started populating North America. They didn't have horses either. They didn't have horses, they didn't have cannabis. And now, to say the natives have the right to grow something we don't. I just think it's wrong. I mean, I'm for their rights. I'm pro-Native Americans on every level, but this is such a stupid twist of policy.

42:24ToddAnd I hope that people wake up to this and realize they should have the rights that their Native American brothers and sisters have, because we're the ones that brought this stuff in the first place.

42:34SpeakerYeah, and that's what I hope it... Mark, is it like the Aboriginals in Canada?

42:44BubblemanWhat's that? What's that? I missed it.

42:46SpeakerAm I on mute? No, I heard you. I was on mute. What was the question? Oh, I was like, I'm saying, it's like the Aborigines in Canada, right? The Aboriginals in Canada have a different law they have to live by or Canadian law?

43:00BubblemanYeah, they definitely have their own sort of scene going on and they have their own lands and they have, you know, treaties and they're exempt from taxes and certain things. So they're definitely, like, governed by their own laws, yet at the same time, those laws... You know, seemingly are within this other system, so they're not really forced to live by the laws, yet, you know, well, my good friend Chester, who I believe Chester's going to be coming into Hash Church next week, he's got a little girl named Cadence and her mother, she suffers from epilepsy and she was having several hundred seizures a day and they've helped with some CBD strains to get her seizures down to almost nil, so they're going to be talking, but Chester was originally busted on Native land in Saskatchewan with 16,000 plants.

43:52BubblemanAnd so he ended up doing, I think, four or five years for this crime here in Canada, which was unfortunate because it really, I don't consider it a crime personally, but it shows you that growing on native land at least five to ten years ago was not going to fly with the government.

44:16ToddI spent five years in federal prison. I met a lot of Native Americans. I actually did Native American sweats with them at Terminal Island for years because they were so welcoming of me into their circle. And the only court that prosecutes federal cases on native is federal courts is the only court that prosecutes what happens on Native American territories. It's not the state of California. They all go to the feds, which is even more discomforting because it's such an unjust judicial system, to be frank.

44:49ToddNot that I know.

44:50SpeakerYou don't hear anything about the medicinal fact when you deal with the feds. Zero. Zero.

44:59SpeakerBut like I said, on the hoping of inspiring things, I'm someone that likes things in writing. And so that's where you heard the murmurs about the feds releasing that they wouldn't come after that on tribal land. Now what has to happen with that is someone has to follow up with that and have that in writing. And that has to be a part of history, not just a verbal or a paper that comes out.

45:27ToddSo that's what I mean by hopefully... And I don't want to sound like a dark side of anything, but I've had lawyer friends that were helping out the tribes up in the Dakotas trying to grow hemp. And honestly, the American government has basically gone back on everything they've ever promised the Native Americans. So not to sound like I don't trust the proclamations of freedom being made by the United States government, but we have a lot of reason to question them.

45:57SpeakerFor sure. We have to change them. I agree. We have to change them.

46:08BubblemanA lot of people asking questions in the chat. They're asking if Canada has a constitution. They're asking if... Talking about... Oh, people are messaging me. I'll kind of say it one more time. This is not the time to message me to try and get into Hash Church. You need to message me... Early on throughout the week, and I vet the speakers. So if you have something you want to come and talk about, we welcome you for sure.

46:35BubblemanBut I am not able to just send the link out to anyone that says, hey, send me the link, send me the link. So please just send me an email, bubbleman at bubblebag.com, or hit me up on Facebook, and we'll vet you and we'll get you in to talk about what you need to talk about. All right.

47:00BubblemanI think it's time for another rip.

47:05BubblemanA little de-naily. We got fresh powder up here in Whistler. I think about 20 centimeters fell in the last 24 hours, so it could be a short hash church today.

47:27BubblemanWe got sound? Anyone got sound? Can you guys hear me or are we just in quiet mode?

47:31ToddWe were quiet, but who's going to Spanibus? I saw DNA is one of the sponsors, man. I look forward to this. Are you going to go, Mark?

47:39BubblemanYou know what? I am going to go, and I'm absolutely stoked on Spanibus. So many people have gotten in touch with me just from different places that Tony and I visited last time we were there. Wanting to kind of have special events at their private clubs and stuff so we'll probably be holding it down at HQ which is Hemp Quarters. Definitely one of the nicest spots that I saw in Barcelona while I was there.

48:05BubblemanWe unfortunately didn't get to the Strain Hunters spot but I have since talked with one of the gentlemen from the Barcelona spot and he invited us down there as well. I think those will probably be the two. I really like the quality of both those places and I could see myself spending a decent amount of time there.

48:23ToddHave you checked out Ben's museum? Have you checked out the Hash Museum in Barcelona yet?

48:29BubblemanNo, I still have not. I can't believe we didn't get to check out that museum.

48:34SpeakerHave you seen it? No, I want to see it. I think this year would be the time for me to see it.

48:39ToddYou're both going to be blown away, honestly. It's fantastic. It's over 1,000 square meters of the most polished collection of cannabis culture, history, hemp, It'll floor you. The cabinets are custom hand carved with cannabis leaves in them. It took Ben 12 years after finding this building to actually open the museum in 2012.

49:12SpeakerI know he's been working on it for a long time. You know, I know he's had it for a long time. I know he's had the one in Amsterdam that he could never open also for a long time. You know, that changed. You think it's something else now.

49:27ToddWell now it's the Hemp Gallery. Well technically Ben bought the old tattoo museum on that street that I can't pronounce that's right down the street from the Hatch Museum and turned it into the Hemp Gallery. And because of stupid laws the one in Barcelona is considered a gallery because they gave him shit about a museum. So if you go you'll see Hemp Museum Galleria and it's It's beautiful, though.

49:54ToddIt's literally the diamond in this world when it comes to cannabis culture. I've never seen a collection as broad, as full, and also, in all honesty, as displayed anywhere close to as nice. It's unbelievable.

50:10BubblemanWell, I'll tell you what, Todd. We should make a point on doing a nice video for Bubble Man's World. Maybe you could take us and walk us through the museum. And we'll do a little show for everyone so they can see exactly what they need to go to Barcelona and see.

50:25SpeakerYou know what?

50:26ToddIf we're there on a Sunday, Mark, we could do a hash church there. I know Ben would let us, you know, have the keys, so to speak, and go open it for us and let us do it.

50:35BubblemanWell, hash church at the museum in Barcelona sounds like a good call. That sounds like we could do it in the hash port. Where all the hash pipes are, that'd be great. Absolutely. One day, one day Hash Church will be done in a warehouse with mountains of hash. Like two stories of hash will be just right behind me. And we'll just be like...

50:57ToddI saw that Richard Branson owns a resort in Morocco. Maybe we could go do Hash Church from there and go find your mountains of Moroccan hash.

51:04BubblemanSomething to do on a weekend. Absolutely, man. You know what? We'll... Hey, Aaron. Want to go to Morocco and see what's his face? How do you all go? Oh, of course. Zach is like, I'm coming. What are you talking about?

51:23SpeakerFirst I got to take my ass away from California.

51:27BubblemanYeah, I guess that's hard, huh? That Cali living can really sort of suck you in.

51:31SpeakerIt's really hard. Like I said, it's like, you know, there's opportunities other places that I could be. Do I need to be here? I love you guys.

51:42BubblemanAs you get to a point in your life, you realize, well, it depends on if the work you're doing is bigger than you. If the work you're doing is bigger than you, then you're forced to go to spots that maybe you won't even be stoked to be, but that's where you need to get the work done. But hopefully we all manifest ourselves to be where we want to be.

52:00BubblemanWe've got a great big world. All sorts of it needs help with the topics that we're all focused on. I don't think... Any one spot is going to be the spot. I think that information used to be more like a mighty oak tree, and that they could chop the oak tree down and keep the information from everyone, but it seems as though now we're all more like blades of grass.

52:22BubblemanNo matter how many they mow down, we just keep growing.

52:29ToddThat was very poetic, Mark. Because they keep mowing us down, for sure. Dude!

52:36BubblemanThey do it, and it's literally as violent as a lawnmower.

52:41SpeakerIt feels like it. No lie. I'm the type of guy that's like, there's like the land between us and the land between the government, and I'm just throwing down squares of sod right on the grass. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And everybody's like, what is he doing? He's just putting grass everywhere on their lawn. He's just going right on top of their lawn and throwing grass on top of it.

53:04SpeakerWe're planting right there.

53:07ToddWell, I'd like to suggest a mass planting. What we really need is like on the 4th of July here in the United States, the Day of Independence and Freedom we supposedly all have, we should all go out and plant cannabis. See how free we are. Just go plant flowers. We should encourage it. That's a DNA Army mission right there.

53:29BubblemanWell, you know what? I'll tell you something, Todd. Recently, it was just last night, actually, I watched a recorded show of Jimmy Fallon. Late night, I was like, I'll throw on Jimmy Fallon. And this dude comes on as the guest, and I'll probably pronounce his name wrong. I think it was LeClaire. He's a rapper dude. New, hot artist. And he sung this song, America. And dude, this shit was almost like, it was almost like Ice T's old band, Body Count, in the sense that it was heavy and metal-esque, but really it was full-blown hip-hop.

54:03BubblemanAnd the shit that he was singing, I'm telling you, man, there must be some freedoms in America for him to be able to go on a TV show like that and sing. I mean, the whole song was called America, and it had an American flag behind it, but he wasn't singing in the best of light. About America. It was pretty heavy. I was kind of like, how did they let him lie to him and tell him he was going to play one song and then just play this other song?

54:29BubblemanAt one point he's singing a verse. About America, I'm not from your country. I'm the one that makes your t-shirts. I work in the sweatshops. And man, I'm telling you, powerful lyrics that you could just see in no way, shape, or form would that ever be allowed in like North Korea or in China or like certain countries that, you know, that I'm just saying you guys do have a level of freedom.

54:54ToddLet's be honest. I'm not saying we don't. And I'm really fortunate to have been born, honestly, in a country so progressive. I honestly came, my home state is Rhode Island, and I'm totally proud of what's happening in Rhode Island. They're experiencing change from the top down right now, whereas here in California, where I've lived since 1992, it's been a struggle from the bottom up, because our governor wouldn't allow us to change the law here.

55:20ToddWay back in the early 90s, we did the initiatives we did with Jack Herrod, Dennis Perrone, and finally the medical one passed, but it's been a struggle all the way for our rights, and we see progressive nature in New England and Rhode Island happening with the legislators taking the lead and changing this from the top down. Last August, I was honored to be able to go back to Rhode Island and rent the Rhode Island Convention Center and do three days of lectures, teach people how to grow medicine, basically out of my next book.

55:50ToddAnd it's fantastic to talk to people because police chiefs, fire, lieutenants, they're being told by the state powers that be to leave us alone. And this must have happened after alcohol prohibition ended. At some point, Jack Daniels went from being an outlaw with a still in his backyard to just being a guy with a business and the same cop had to drive by and had to change the way the cop thought about Mr. Jack Daniels being Outlawed and now something everybody has in their bar.

56:23ToddSo there's a change happening that's awesome in America right now, but I still find it really ironic that we celebrate freedom and we can't grow hemp in our front yard or we'll have the great oppression of all the powers that be on top of us.

56:42BubblemanVery true, very true. So here we are in this dichotomous experience of living in North America. We have certain freedoms, and then we have other not-so-certain freedoms. And, well, you've just got to remember that it's a big world out there, and we're definitely in a more progressive part, and there's a lot of people that are still, you know, living in the sort of Nancy Reagan platform of just saying no.

57:08BubblemanThere's still people dealing with that. I think one of the things that I like about Hash Church the most is not necessarily, you know, getting... Finding a viral hit or getting someone who's really known to start liking it, but just talking to the youth. The youth that's sitting out there every night at their dinner tables while potentially experimenting with cannabis. From what I saw, generally there was the people that got the most into cannabis in high school and afterwards.

57:36BubblemanTended to stay away from alcohol. It was almost as though if you could find cannabis early enough, you could use it as your guiding light to lead you without the help or without the hindrance, I should say, of alcohol.

57:52ToddYep. I agree with that. I don't really drink. I don't really drink. I don't know. We hit a lot of ganja.

57:59SpeakerSmoked a lot of ganja. I smoked a lot of hash. I don't drink. I don't really drink. I mean, I might drink every now and then. But I think you don't, I mean, I learned not to drink from getting too drunk one time, you know, pretty much. Get taught a lesson. Don't eat Dave's bonbons, you know, those lessons, you know.

58:25ToddYeah, I've never talked a lot in Amsterdam with their hashish bonbons. Oh, my, my. But moderation is the key to success, I think, honestly. When we talk about inspiring stories, there are so many in cannabis because I think it really led us down a path of natural oneness. We were more open-minded to trying things like eating healthy or exercising and taking care of ourselves. Cannabis definitely brings together the mind, body, and spirit, which really was the three focal points of martial arts.

58:59ToddYou know, balancing these three elements of our life and cannabis has been just a fantastic part of it. It's funny because, you know, my friend Adam, you guys know Adam Schroeder who made the union, he went and worked on I Am Bruce, which is a documentary about Bruce Lee and before we did the Culture High. And he called me up saying, do you know the one thing that comes up in every single interview that we do when people are talking about Bruce Lee?

59:24ToddAnd I said, what's that? He said, marijuana. And he said it was the only thing found in his system when he died. And he says, but the family didn't want them to put it in the documentary, so it went unmentioned. But I think a lot of people that are trying to fucking better themselves and to find balance in their lives, find cannabis to be a major tool for that.

59:46SpeakerYou know what's creepy about that? I woke up this morning and I was thinking about Hash Church and I was thinking about the endocannabinoid system. And I was thinking about Bruce Lee's style, the nose style. I kid you not. And then you brought up Bruce Lee, and I was like, oh my God, that's so creepy. But it's true.

1:00:07ToddIt's a coincidence. You know, my point, and you know, not to, is that honestly, we are the culture. We're not the counterculture. You know, if you like Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Stones, those are all stoners. I mean, if people have ever sang along to, you know, Got to Get You Into My Life by Paul McCartney, they're singing along to his love song to marijuana. And we're so cast out as being the counterculture when we aren't the counterculture.

1:00:34ToddWe are the culture. If you took cannabis out of this culture, there's no jazz, there's no rock and roll. There's a lot of elements of this that you're not going to like about plain Jane planet Earth. And when we get cannabis to be equalized like it is now, like if we could normalize it like we do beer, We are going to see such a change in the way society interacts with one another and the way they remember each other and the way they become friends.

1:01:05ToddIf we had been drinkers, Mark, do you think that Positronics would have had that long-term vibe of bringing together so many people? Instead, we were smokers, so when we left, we remembered what we talked about the next day. We remembered who we were hanging out with. We remembered what we did, and we didn't have a hangover. We felt great.

1:01:25BubblemanThe next day, we remembered 20 years later, Todd. I know, I know, I know.

1:01:33ToddIt's true. That is true. We should try to get Bernard in here one day.

1:01:38BubblemanOh, absolutely. I have always respected Bernard. I was lucky enough way, way back in probably the late 90s, early 2000s to meet Noel, to meet Noel Van Schaik. And Mark Rose, my manufacturer, introduced me to Noel, and I went to Harlem, and I I stayed at the Willie Wartle coffee shop and we got to smoke hash and herb and really just, Noel was like, I just respected the duties.

1:02:06BubblemanHe's a heavy, heavy cannabis warrior. He does not take shit from anyone. He's got the most epic freaking story. If you actually, Tony and I were doing a little documentary and we got it on tape and when that comes out, man, I'm telling you, the hair on the back of your neck stands up when you hear Noel. Tell his story. But Noel introduced me to Wernard, and Noel, back then, if you remember, he had the original seats from the first Mellow Yellow coffee shop, and he had them in his little museum in Harlem.

1:02:40ToddWow.

1:02:41BubblemanYeah, it was a very cool sort of, like, to me, that was, you know, meeting Noel and Marushk, I believe was her name, it was just like really getting into that older school. I had Matt Werner five years prior, but as a complete and total stranger. Still had a few interactions with him, but you know what it's like to meet someone just on a whim compared to being introduced by someone that actually knows them quite well.

1:03:09SpeakerI've got a good story about Willie Wartell. That was actually one of the first coffee shops I rolled into. I tried to sell me...

1:03:24SpeakerPepsi sprayed weed, okay? What they do is they, right before they cut the plant down, they spray it with Pepsi or some sugary substance to make the plant, as it's drying, it turns the plant completely white with sugars, right? And then they sell it to you and then they're like, oh yeah, it's just covered with keef, you know? Come on. And you're like, you're looking at it and you're like, there's something fucking wrong with this weed, man.

1:03:53SpeakerYou know, and I shit you not, bro, Willie Wartell's, bro, it was like, there's like an indica, a sativa, and another one that you go upstairs, whichever one that was. And I was like, I'm like, who are you trying to fool? And I shit you not, it was sprayed with Pepsi, I know this for a fact, because after being in Amsterdam, you know, for years after that, I, you know, like, Willie Wartell's used to sell our varieties on their menu, so I, like, I mean, we've grown into Amsterdam, so it's like I've seen the shit that they abuse weed.

1:04:26SpeakerIn Harlem. In Harlem. Dude, I've seen weed with like sand on it, weed sprayed with fiberglass on it, weed with fake keef. I've seen it's like you just look under a microscope and it's like they've done everything, bastardized it to make, you know, you want to buy one kilo or you want me to make that into two kilos type of shit.

1:04:53BubblemanYeah, the prohibition-based mentality. This is the real bummer that why so many people go to Amsterdam and are disappointed when they buy strains from pretty much any coffee shop there. It's just non-flushed, a lot of chemical-grown strains. And I don't think that that's really, it's a prohibition-based mentality. And it's in a place that is so expensive where you can pay 80 euros to park your car for the day for the day.

1:05:22BubblemanLike, it's just nuts, dude.

1:05:23ToddIt is so expensive. They just wait driving at every cost there. You know, but there are a lot of people that grow really good herb. I mean, I've had the good fortune of hanging out with Don and Aaron and had awesome herb, you know. Before they spray it with fiberglass?

1:05:43SpeakerTurns out not. My peoples, my army, don't have to worry about that shit. That's hilarious. Yeah, they have a different sales tactic over there, Bubba, man. You know, that's a totally different market there. I'm saying, you know, I'm saying like some coffee shops will try to pull that shit on you. Absolutely. You know, and then there's, you know, the bulk sales people that will also pull that shit on you.

1:06:08SpeakerBut the reality is what you're usually getting at a coffee shop is grown by a small grower who's not producing more than maybe 10 kilos at most. You know? So you usually, you know, it's at, but there's those commercial, the PP that they buy and they sell at five different strain names, you know, or ten different strain names at ten different coffee shops, and it's all bought at the same place, and it's not flushed, and it's dried in the same room that they're growing their next crop in.

1:06:42SpeakerThey cut down, they plant the new crop, and they dry their herb.

1:06:45BubblemanI guess it brings us to the importance of standards. I hear a lot of people saying, oh, let us just have our dispensaries, let us just grow and sell to whoever we want to, and it's like, well, okay, but, you know, at the expense of who? At the expense of the patient? At the expense of the person who is the person you're actually making profits off of?

1:07:05BubblemanBecause there's so many, I mean, hundreds of dispensaries, thousands probably at this point across North America, and

1:07:16BubblemanThey really need to adhere to a standard. We all don't have the same standards in life. You can tell that right off the bat by just going into different people's bathrooms. Some people don't give a fuck, and some people give a fuck, and then there's everything in between, right? And so it's kind of the same thing with how people grow their herb. I mean, I know conscious people that I would literally think, you know, no, that's a good person right there.

1:07:40BubblemanLiterally tell me, oh yeah, I sprayed deadly chemicals on my plants while they were in flower. Just needed to do it. Had to be done, man. I wasn't going to lose the whole crop, and I'm like, whoa. So it gets into the ethics and the morals of this industry that you see so many people that are fighting legal cannabis. They want to keep it more on a roots level, but the

1:08:08BubblemanThen we need standards.

1:08:09ToddThat, Mark, you know, because it's become a race to the bottom, in my opinion, here in California. Because now producers are not given anywhere near the kind of compensation they were given ten years ago for their efforts. And now what we've seen is these retail shops, these cannabis clubs become wealthy, if you will, while the price has gone up for people on high end jobs. I mean, now an eighth of cannabis is 65 bucks easily in one of these cannabis medical dispensaries in California, so it's higher than it was when it was 400 an ounce in the 90s.

1:08:50Todd4,800 a pound wholesale and retail for like 64, that was 400 an ounce. Now people pay more than that retail and producers are paid way less. And because they're paid way less, they're actually doing very unethical things in order to harvest their cannabis. And I think that it sucks because what's really, what's happening with this quasi-legality is it's hurting the end consumer, if you will, because there's nobody checking, there's nobody doing any regulation.

1:09:20ToddAnd honestly, it shouldn't be this expensive because now if they're going to legalize it, it should be like this bong. It should be just figure out how much it costs to make, double the price, sell it at wholesale, somebody else retails it, and it's a day. And I think that The growers are going to have to get used to the fact that cannabis may be $10 an ounce for the best buds you've ever seen because grandma is legal to grow them down the street and is willing to sell them for that cheap.

1:09:46ToddSo I think we're going to see this whole industry get flipped on its head.

1:09:51SpeakerI love it. I love it. We can grow mad cannabis, $10 an ounce, whatever, $10 a pound. I want all that resin. Farm resin. Farm resin.

1:10:05ToddBut there are people opposing legalization right now because they feel like it's going to destroy the price of cannabis. When we tried to pass 19 in California, Humboldt, Trinity County, and Mendocino County all voted no. And you know, the problem is that we've got to let go of these prohibitionary prices. We've got to let go of all the profiteering. And we've really got to get our freedom because that's the only way we're going to get really good prices, legalization, standardization, no chemicals, organic growing, what we want really, what's good for us.

1:10:39BubblemanWell, that's it. Prohibition-based mentality growing is going to be a thing of the past. You can see the people who are the first people to call out a guy like Tony as a sellout are the people who love prohibition. They love making three grand off a pound of weed. They think it's just wonderful and great. They don't need standardizations. They can sell microbial bacteria-contaminated cannabis to people that they think that they're helping, and they're just quite happy with that system, but People with a larger vision are going to move this to where it needs to be.

1:11:16BubblemanThere's no way that we can continue to base our profit margin off of our friends going to prison. That's what the cannabis profit margin is based on right now. It's based on people going to prison and being locked up and people's lives being destroyed rather than It being like an essential food source. Okay, well, let's give it the value of an essential food source. Maybe, okay, two bucks a pound for tomatoes.

1:11:39BubblemanThis is more valuable than tomatoes. Let's make it four or five or ten bucks a pound.

1:11:48SpeakerA salt and pepper shaker full of dry sip to go on your salad, sir?

1:11:56BubblemanDude, I got one right here.

1:12:01BubblemanWhat are you saying, Tony?

1:12:03SpeakerAll right. Let me give you some real-world experience. I'm actually in the market in Colorado with, I don't know, 12 to 15 licenses. I have started as a caregiver, seen the laws evolve, and been doing what I call adult use and the world's coin recreation because it's almost impossible to get people to understand adult use.

1:12:34SpeakerYou've got the retail, you've got the medical, there's wholesale, there's processing. So seeing all of the different angles in the industry and being in it both sides, you see different types of prices and the way things have fluctuated. And so it's kind of been, you see things happen differently in the wintertime than you do in the summertime slightly, with maybe 10% now. Thank you for joining us.

1:13:30SpeakerSeveral hundred dollars per pound, in my opinion.

1:13:34BubblemanHey, I take that.

1:13:36SpeakerThat's why pills are some pills are more expensive, right? You know, just like in the pharmaceutical industry. Some pills are going to cost you $100 a pill. Sure. It's made with the same exact shit as the pills. That's why I preach with the, I sat with a group of doctors and people this week, That want to take on the Act Now program in Colorado. And they love the whole idea and the combinations of things and like the charts and everything.

1:14:06SpeakerSo they're going to start to come on board. And they asked me how much it cost. And I said, oh, if someone that's an Act Now patient, it's $0.80 for 10 milligrams. And they were like, really? They were like, that's really cheap. I'm like, well, it's $1 for members and like $1.50 on the retail side. Once we get it there, and he was just like, that's so cheap.

1:14:29SpeakerAnd I'm like, well, isn't that the point? I'm like, the point is to get really good medicine to the people as cheap as possible, not the other way around. And so that's also the driving force there. And so I've seen even what the cost of goods and what you could break down a plant into every type of category possible. So I could tell you that there's a certain We've got a lot of people that are going to be interested in this.

1:14:57SpeakerWe've got a lot of people that are going to be interested in this. We've got a lot of people that are

1:15:25SpeakerWe're penalized for even being the type of business that we are, and then you have to look at how low could you possibly go. Well, you couldn't even maintain to be in business any lower than $25 or $35. That's also controlled by how much they can buy.

1:15:41ToddYou know, Mark, you know, I just want to point out, Tony, I feel that it's also in the self-interest of the bureaucracies that are attempting to regulate us to keep the prohibition era pricing on par because that's the only way they can come up with their ridiculous numbers of expectation for basically raking us over the coals. And one thing I would like to mention is that there's no other industry that I can speak of in Colorado.

1:16:07ToddYou can make ammunition, bombs, knives, any destructive device you want. You can make wine, whiskey, probably Everclear. I'm not sure what that is for that. You guys got cameras looking over you, and no one else in any of those aforementioned industries has gotten the scrutiny on them. And you're growing flowers in the greenhouse. And I just feel that we're giving up so much of our freedoms for something that's not fair because we should be demanding equal rights in commerce as we are in life.

1:16:37ToddBecause, you know, if they're going to impose this ridiculous and expensive sanctions on you guys that are just doing normal stuff, like if your family was into wine and you were talking about grapes and it was a winery, there wouldn't be, Closed circuit cameras going directly to the police station monitoring your every move. And this is like, what's the difference? The winery is far more destructive towards society than any cannabis business could ever be.

1:17:05ToddAnd the truth is that we're letting go of so many of our freedoms to get such little amounts of liberty, if you will. And I've got to say, I think that I understand what you're saying, but I don't understand Thank you so much for joining us today.

1:17:49SpeakerIt's just you can't do it for a certain cheaper thing. So what I'm saying to you is, and that's in that model, and you're correct. Like if you had some chains taken off, which I agree with you 100%, it would definitely help. But you have to understand that, you know, we have 80-something people there with six or seven different divisions. You know, we try to run it as tight and as cost efficient as possible.

1:18:12ToddOh, you know, don't take this, Tony, you know, listen, this is no way a reflection on your personal business practices. I feel, you know, I know people, where you're coming from is really a good place. And, you know, I dig on what you're doing and don't take this as me talking about you. We're really having a general conversation. Some of my best friends own some of the biggest clubs in California.

1:18:35ToddAnd we have these conversations too about price fixing, about what that means to the hash industry. When you go in and a club won't sell a gram of hash that's over 60 bucks or whatever, you know, what does that mean? I mean, it sucks. Imagine if you walked into a wine store and there was no $1,000 bottles of wine because there was no interest in producing because the wine store fixed all the prices of the wine and wouldn't buy anything over $30.

1:19:01ToddIt would suck. And in a way, that's what's happening in some of these stores in California. And, you know, talking about these problems, I think, is the best way to bring them to light because sometimes people, consumers, don't even realize there's an issue until people like you and I go, you know, we don't like this or we think this should get changed or this little thing should get spoken about.

1:19:21ToddAnd it brings light to the issues, if you will.

1:19:25SpeakerYeah, and I think there's also a fear in normal businesses that, To deal with the cannabis industry still, like we even have that, even sometimes just like getting shirts printed. Oh, you're in the cannabis industry? Yeah, we're not even going to deal with you. Like, really? You know, and there's interesting, and there's still that fear too. And those walls need to come down because then what would happen is states could have boards, groups that they form and boards that they could form that would come together to talk about the pricing and things like that.

1:19:55SpeakerAnd what I've seen is it's kind of naturally found its way In the Colorado market with wholesale and different things, so in wholesale you can see anything from $2,200 to $2,800 range, but very rarely is it over $3,000 and sometimes you might see it under $2,000, but the quality is something you wouldn't want to mess with, you know? But the $2,200 to $2,800 range. And what I'm saying that about ultimately at the end of the day is it's a good thing because it's not $10 a pound or $100 a pound because that gives a lot of jobs when you're able to have something like that.

1:20:37SpeakerAnd if you're still able to deliver, you know, like we deliver full milk for $35, you know, to a person. That's killer. You know, it's just... What I'm saying is it gives you a certain gauge of what could happen in a state if certain regulations and environments were imposed. So this is just gauge one, if you will, the Colorado model. I don't necessarily say I agree with it or not.

1:21:09SpeakerIt's just a model that we have to work within. So each state needs to really think about it and look at what has evolved here, look at what evolves in each place, and eventually, There needs to be some kind of, you know, group that comes together that can offer, like, national advice and a committee. I mean, the government needs to allow that type of next involvement, like they do with alcohol and they do with the ammunition.

1:21:37ToddIt's the next step. Our equal rights in commerce is our next step and I think that's what has to happen. We have to start talking about it with that kind of regard that what we're demanding is simply the same treatment we're giving to other industries and to be considered a demographic that we are. I mean we're a huge demographic when you look at how much money and impact we have on the culture and the society.

1:22:02ToddIt's a very healthy alternative to what we've been given in the last 60, 70 years when it comes to alcohol, beer, and tobacco as our Friday night specials. When you add hashish and cannabis and ganja to the mix on Sunset Strip and every little boulevard like it across the nation, it's going to change the vibe considerably. I think we'll see a lot less violence, a lot less anger.

1:22:28ToddI think it's going to change the whole scene considerably. So much, you know, and I think that it's going to also blow up. When you see legalization happen in places full on and, you know, you can go do fields in San Diego that are just as far as the eye can see at Ganja, I think it's going to have huge impacts on the prices. It will be not economic to grow cannabis indoors using lights, I think, honestly, after legalization.

1:22:54BubblemanFields of DNA. What do you think about that, DNA? What do you think about that? Do you see it moving into an outdoor?

1:23:03SpeakerThey need seeds, bro. It all starts from seeds, bro. It's true. And then they need to keep all the strains alive in tissue culture, you know, and obviously you grow some strains from clones, but realiztically you need seeds.

1:23:21BubblemanWhat is the DNA Army's collection right now? What are you guys housing for your strain bank?

1:23:32BubblemanOh, a lot of things.

1:23:35SpeakerI don't even know. I couldn't even tell you right now.

1:23:37BubblemanDamn, you got to get that shit down and like, you know, like the DNA Bible. Open it up and see exactly what's available. And someone wanted to know when your cookies tangy drop was happening. Is that a thing? It's already been selected by our friends at Gold Coast. Ah, the Gold Coasters. You know what? I need to get in touch with those guys. You should give them my number if you see James or Aaron.

1:24:04BubblemanAll right. Tell them to give me a shout because I definitely... Those are good guys. That's a great... Everything I've ever seen from them was pretty much, and I'd say this, two years in a row, both things that they showed me were like the nicest bud I saw while I was there. And in fact, two years ago, or maybe three, they gave me a bud of like White Walker Kush or something.

1:24:33BubblemanI don't even know. I just gave it away right away. And the guy standing next to me was Emilio from Trippy Sticks, who Todd had just introduced me to. And I was like, oh, here, have this bud. And so I gave it to him and he kind of was like, oh yeah, yeah. And later he came up to me and was like, dude, what's up with that bud?

1:24:49SpeakerLike, where did you get that bud?

1:24:50BubblemanThat bud was so killer. Like, what? That was like LA bud, bro. Like, I can't even believe that bud was in Amsterdam. Like, who had that bud? I was just like, what fucking bud are you even talking about? It was their White Walker.

1:25:06BubblemanAnd I think of as Emilio as a guy that's not smoking on swag. Is that accurate, Todd? You're laughing.

1:25:15SpeakerTodd's mad because I'm eating a banana. I had a banana. Todd's mad because I'm eating a banana. He's mad. Hey, sometimes you've got to have a banana. Oh, my God. Aaron, I love you. You're responsibly poetic.

1:25:36BubblemanNever eat a banana on video, hey? He's very comfortable with his sexuality.

1:25:43ToddI didn't want to go there, bro. I didn't want to go there. My writing, eh? I didn't want to go there. I didn't want to go there. It's a bobsled ride, guys. It's all it is.

1:25:57BubblemanIt's a bobsled ride. And by the time you get to the end, you can be doing four to five Gs, so hold on tight.

1:26:05SpeakerDude, I thought I was going to hit a pin on there. There was no way.

1:26:11BubblemanDude, you were so funny. And not only did you think you were going to hit a pen on there, I'm pretty sure you thought you were going to get a picture of you hitting a pen on there. There was nothing.

1:26:23SpeakerNothing happening. I was holding on for dear life and praying that you were not going to let go and just end up on the ice behind me and then I get dragged out with you.

1:26:38BubblemanYeah, that would be something.

1:26:44BubblemanHey, so Samantha, did you start yourself up a YouTube page or any other pages that we can share with the audience?

1:26:58SamanthaWe are going to get a YouTube page up, which I have created, and yes, we shall be doing. There will be stuff in the pipeline.

1:27:07BubblemanAnd so would that be youtube.com, I guess it's backslash user, backslash Samantha Elvey? Is that the name of your channel?

1:27:18SamanthaUm, I don't, do you remember what it is?

1:27:21BubblemanNo, I don't.

1:27:22SamanthaI can't remember what it is. That's okay.

1:27:25BubblemanHuh? We'll look into it.

1:27:28SamanthaAnd look it up.

1:27:29BubblemanYeah, look it up because people will want to know and that's how we stay in touch.

1:27:35SamanthaI've started writing some blogs that I'm going to post in the soon future all about cannabis and me using it medicinally and promoting it a bit. So that will be exciting. I'm looking forward to posting those. So keep an eye on the blog.

1:27:53BubblemanYou have a really unique situation because the UK seems like a place that desperately needs some good activism.

1:28:01BubblemanIt seems as though a lot of my friends that are from the UK that seem to climb in the cannabis movement and get themselves to a certain position, it seems like a lot of them leave the UK, so it would be nice to see a strong activist voice with a strong story.

1:28:22SamanthaWe might be leaving too, so I wouldn't... We will still, even if we leave, we'll very much be a real big activist for the UK, but for us at the minute, it's just... Neither one of us cares about going to jail, we're not in the wrong, it's the law that's wrong, but... You know, it is sort of scary knowing what to do. You know, it has been, you know, last week was the first time I openly spoke about using cannabis.

1:28:52SamanthaAnd it is a worry knowing how open, you know, you can be. And when I do start posting stuff... You know, is it going to attract trouble? You know, that is a worry for us. You know, there was a case, I remember the woman's name, another woman that was blogging about using cannabis and she did get, the police did come round and did arrest her and, you know, it's a bit sketchy so, yeah, I don't know if we will, depending on how Things go over the next sort of coming months, you know, I don't know if we will stay in the UK because I want to be able to access medicine and I want to be able to use it safely and I want to be able to promote cannabis and, you know, without having to worry about, you know, the police coming around.

1:29:35BubblemanYeah, it seems like a pretty ridiculous worry to have to have when it's something that just is clearly essential to well-being. Oh, and welcome Jen Doe, who just came into the room.

1:29:47Jen DoeGood morning.

1:29:51BubblemanOh, the mountain is awaiting. Soon I'll be snowboarding down Whistler Mountain, going through Million Dollar Ridge and loving life because the powder will be fresh and lovely. Then we'll start getting down a little further and it'll get a little kind of choppy and bumpy and mashed potato-y. Then we'll get right into rain, icy, slushy, nasty, horrible shit. It's quite a wonderful full life spectrum you get on a run like that.

1:30:19BubblemanThe enjoyment and the non-enjoyment, all combined. Okay, Todd, well thanks for coming in. You want to say bye out loud? You may.

1:30:29ToddBye out loud. Bye. Bye, Todd.

1:30:33Jen DoeIt was good seeing you briefly for about 12 seconds. Is this your daughter? She's adorable. Who is that? She's adorable.

1:30:50BubblemanHey, Todd, Todd, that question was asked 300 times in the YouTube chat. I literally had to say, why is everyone tripping out? On this girl, and, okay, yes, you have a young face, that's very nice.

1:31:08ToddLauren is not my daughter, oh my god. I know. That's quite funny, though, actually. So, for those of you watching, actually, yeah, Lauren's going to be the editor of Camp XXX, the online magazine, while I'm working on producing the THC Expo, because I don't have any more time to put on the website, and she is now going to be putting her time on the website, so...

1:31:33Jen DoeYou know what it is? It's the perspective. It's like you're sitting right in front of the camera and she's sitting in this perspective that's so far out that literally you look like you are 12 and in your pajamas and just jamming with your dad.

1:31:48ToddIt's true that we really didn't get dressed for church, to be honest, or do much preparation other than make a smoothie and roll a joint. But, yeah, you know.

1:32:00Jen DoeIt's nice to meet you. I'm sorry to call in. Sorry for coming in and calling you a child. Nice to meet you guys. It's kind of funny actually.

1:32:09SpeakerI got older last week with my naked body.

1:32:13Jen DoeI was like, cool, can I get my kids in here? Because they keep wanting to hang out and I have to lock my bedroom door. I'm like, no, no guys, it's not you that can be in here. You got to stay out there. Hey, Hash Church is kid friendly.

1:32:26SpeakerKid friendly.

1:32:29ToddHey, Mark, remember the kid's toy box was next to the pollinator in Positronics?

1:32:36SpeakerYep.

1:32:37ToddOh, that's a photo I'd love to have right now, right? The dad in front of the pollinator, the kid in front of the toy box, both of them happy as shit.

1:32:46SpeakerGreat.

1:32:48ToddYeah. Well, everybody, peace and love. Yeah, that is great. 300, Todd.

1:32:55Jen DoeWhat happens when you come in late is you don't know what's going on and you make an ass out of yourself, so.

1:33:02SpeakerWe none of us knew what was going on.

1:33:04ToddThat was hilarious, man. And Aaron, thank you for making me laugh so hard. That is just great. First the banana. It's just awesome. And I guess we'll all see each other at Spannibus. Or in L.A. All right, I'll drive down and say hi. Well, aren't you going to come down for the cup, Todd? Oh, it is, yeah. I'm dying to see. What is that? The former prison guard known as Rick Ross performing at High Times.

1:33:32ToddThat ought to be stupendous.

1:33:34SpeakerOh, yeah. I'm never there at that time.

1:33:37ToddNo, no. Just for the awards. But you know what? I'm down, actually. I'll come down for it, for sure. And if you're ever coming up to the Bay Iron, you know, you're always welcome.

1:33:47SpeakerYeah, you know, I'm actually going to be in Oakland on Thursday.

1:33:54ToddHit me up. I have guest rooms if you want. You're more than welcome. So there you go. Well, everybody, Mark, I wish you could come down here. One day. One day soon. It'll happen. Well, you'll all see in Spanibus then. I'll actually talk to Ben, see if we can get Ash Church lined up. We'll have to see what day it falls on.

1:34:15BubblemanYou know, we could do a cool thing. That would be really, really fun. All right, everybody. Peace.

1:34:24SpeakerAll right.

1:34:26BubblemanSee you later. And then Tony's rocking the Rubik's Cube. You know, recently I saw they have contests where these guys will stare at a Rubik's Cube for, like, I think about 20 seconds or 30 seconds. They're allowed to look at it and move it around and stuff. And then they put a blindfold on, and then in, like, 60 moves, they complete the Rubik's Cube. With the blindfold on.

1:34:53BubblemanThis is like a contest they do. I could not believe that there was a person that had a memory that could not only photographically see, but then go through in their mind the moves that they would be required to do without seeing and make all the colors on the same. For those of you that are wondering why I brought this up, Tony is playing the Rubik's Cube right now.

1:35:15SpeakerYeah, I used to do blindfold chess like that.

1:35:20SpeakerYou play chess, somebody else moves for you and you call out the moves. Takes me 45 seconds to do that shit.

1:35:28BubblemanYeah, Aaron's needs 45 seconds. Who are you joking? I bet you you'd get gold first place. Aaron from DNA Genetics.

1:35:36SpeakerI would have to peel the stickers.

1:35:40BubblemanYeah, that's my style. Just peel the stickers, put them where they belong. Okay, I'm done. This is a little bit of a cheat, isn't it? I've never heard from... From True and Ramon today. I sent them the link. Never heard back from them. Oh, and Full Melt Stew is another person I forgot to send the link out. See, I just can't remember. There's actually now so many people that come in.

1:36:08SpeakerYou had to remember to send the link. I woke up thinking about Hash Church. I set my alarm for this ship this morning.

1:36:15BubblemanThat's awesome.

1:36:16SpeakerSo did 400 people. Yeah, I was like thinking about Hash Church and Bruce Lee. I was thinking about Matt's page and what we got here and we can bake and...

1:36:28Jen DoeI have to admit it, I said it and then I actually like turn you guys on to like watch you in the background and listen while I'm trying to make myself semi-presentable for church, so... Semi-presentable for church.

1:36:44SpeakerSemi-presentable for church. I didn't get my rhythm on here. I didn't get my rhythm on here. I'm done. I'm done.

1:36:52Jen DoeYeah, that's pretty much what I did.

1:36:54BubblemanWhen you're not talking, Jen, make sure you mute your mic. We're all reverberating from your speakers right now. There we go, thanks. And I'll do the same.

1:37:09SpeakerLong rip.

1:37:20SpeakerLong rips.

1:37:23SpeakerSome people have been asking if I've been quite quiet because my arm has been really bad, of course, and I'm now getting to the point where I'm alleviating my pain.

1:37:32BubblemanIt's great to hear that, John, but happy to hear that you're alleviating your pain.

1:37:38SpeakerTook a few caps and I'm feeling a lot better. How have things been with Johnny B.? Well, you know what? Things are doing very well. The LED light is killing it. I'm very, very happy with what's going on with the growth of it. I'm very impressed with the density of the resin that's happening, and I'm looking forward to making a hash with it very soon.

1:38:10SpeakerAre you using LED? Is that what you're using? It's really doing very well. I'm getting nice hard rock buds. The gland has looked definitely bigger, bulbous. There's more density in the resin by the looks of it. I mean, it's just what I'm filming and what I'm seeing, but I'm definitely happy with the amount of resin I'm getting from the LED and the type of bud development. I'm happy with it.

1:38:37SpeakerAs in growing for years, I'm impressed with this particular LED light. What about the... The surface area or size of your buds and the yield of the actual plant matter. Right now what I'm looking at is I really want to start weighing it because I'm seeing that the LED, like say with the barber bud, hand in hand, they're both looking very, very similar, where the MLP, the My Little Pony, I'm feeling that the LED is finishing quicker with that particular strain because it's got more of a sativa and people are seeing it in the video.

1:39:07SpeakerSo I'm seeing how the LEDs would probably come into really good effect for growing sativas, maybe for saving on power and just the development that I'm getting on those two particular strains, but It's just the first round, so it's really hard to say, right? Six strains, first time going at it, the next time I'm going to do, you know, I'm going to keep going and seeing how the development goes with different strains, but I'm definitely looking forward to keep using it, for sure.

1:39:32SpeakerAnd, of course, smoking it and seeing what, hey, it's just exciting. It's something to see it's actually working. Are you using a supplemental light? Nothing, no, just the LED light right now. Is it that same one that Murray has?

1:39:51SpeakerIt's the same one. Looks like it's meant for like a gymnasium. It does, doesn't it? Yeah, it's originally made for in stadiums and for using on like cargo ships for bringing out natural light over people to work and stuff like that. And then someone put it down lower, they changed the chip in it in a different driver and it's working, so.

1:40:13BubblemanYeah, I've got one. I use it as a supplemental light. I did vaporize some of the Astro Boy that Remo had. Remo's already bloomed out a few strains with it. And so I saw the Astro Boy the other day from it.

1:40:30BubblemanIf you watch the video of the six, I think he's actually, no, I've got that video up. We both were doing hopscotch on our videos, so he would film like a scene and then I would do the next scene, so. We smoked six different kinds of herb. I vaporized them. He had nice flavor on the Astro Boy, and it was definitely Astro Boy. I could pick it out.

1:40:49BubblemanI definitely couldn't say that it was better than any Astro Boy I've seen grown with HPS, but I guess that's going to be a personal preference, really. I don't think I've ever seen a new light that has...

1:41:06BubblemanBlown me away where, you know, like when people say, oh, I grew the turpenator and it gave me 20% more resin, and then you ask them how they know that, but they have no answer. I think that the light works, but rather than use only the LED light, I like it as a supplemental light. It's so bright that you can, what I literally do is I put it on its side, I don't even hang it, and I just face it blasting right on my plants.

1:41:31BubblemanAnd it seems to, they seem to like it. For sure. I thank Johnny B for getting me the light. That's for sure. He just brought it by one day and was like, here, I got you one of these.

1:41:39SpeakerThat's what he did. It's a giant light, man. It looks like it should be in the stadium. No shit. It's powerful. I wouldn't just grow with that one. I would put that at the very top of your room and maybe you'd spread out in the aisleways. You know? And just use it as a filler, you know, supplemental.

1:42:07BubblemanYeah, it sure blows away T5s for supplemental lighting. I mean, T5s are popcorn compared to this LED light. When I turned that LED light, you were there, weren't you, Aaron, when I turned it off? And then I showed you what it looked like when I turned it on?

1:42:21SpeakerIt was like a stadium, bro.

1:42:25SpeakerIt was like a stadium. I mean, the thing is so big, bro. I mean, like, literally, imagine, like, It means like probably what, 20, 30 pounds? Yeah, there you go. It's not meant for like growing in your closet.

1:42:42BubblemanYet, yet, yet, we're growing in closets with a stadium light bulb. Because that's how Johnny and I roll.

1:42:52SpeakerYou know what, for anybody who's looking at saving power and wants one bulb, I think it's great to get like a 12. What's going on now? I think it worked very well. You'll get good density budding, good medicine, and you'll be happy with it. Plus, it's got a five-year bulb. I mean, it's good for certain people, yes, and for myself, I'm definitely going to keep testing it out because I'm curious because hydro is definitely going up like crazy, but I will always use my HPS bulbs because it's just what I'm used to.

1:43:21BubblemanI want to welcome Mr. Rick and, of course, Biggie, and, of course... I like that Biggie's right in between Ramon and Rick.

1:43:36SpeakerGreetings from Amsterdam, from cold and wet Amsterdam. Can you hear us? Alles gut, boys. Alles gut. Alles gut.

1:43:51SpeakerWhat's puffin'? Just puffin' some 90 Fresh Frozen. Oh, snap. Some cheese, though. Yummy.

1:44:01BubblemanA little 90 fresh frozen, a little 90 dry nog run. I got this shit that's like seven or eight years old, this crazy Hindu Kush hash that's like so dry, so dry that it smells mildly stale, but just has the most awesome buzz to it. Nice. Yeah, it's like the cannabinoids, as the terpenes degrade and disappear, and I guess So too does the modulation, but the modulation doesn't necessarily get worse.

1:44:31BubblemanYou know, I find that when I save hash for these long periods of time, that I'm often surprised in what I find.

1:44:44SpeakerTurns into different things, I guess, CBNs and CBGs. It's nice, we're smoking some, oh yeah, some Nicole dry sift also. Yeah, some Nicole...

1:44:57BubblemanOh, that Nicole was lovely. That was definitely in the top five of hashes that I saw while I was in Amsterdam.

1:45:03SpeakerYeah.

1:45:04BubblemanJust had a great taste to it, and it reminded me, when I saw the resin, of Barb. Like, it was Barb-esque. It has a similar quality in the way it's greasy, and it's just fucking nice.

1:45:20SpeakerBarb's finished over here. It's definitely a sad day when Barb was done.

1:45:24BubblemanDamn, dude. I think you guys need to get some barbed like cuts or seeds or something. Like just throw that shit in the garden. It's always nice to have just at least one barb in the back of the room. I'm telling you. I think they share genetics though, don't they? They both got that shish keberry. Exactly, dude. Exactly. And I saw that the minute I smelt the Nicole, I was like, I was kind of like, this smells like shish keberry.

1:45:47BubblemanAnd it was a woman who showed it to me. We were at the Cannabis Cup, the house there where everyone puts their entries in and stuff. We're on the top floor, and I can't remember her name. She's a real cool woman with blonde hair.

1:45:58SpeakerI think she was in... What's that? Marianne?

1:46:02BubblemanYeah, Marianne. So she was the one that came up to me, and me and Tony rolled in, and we had the D-nail, and we're like, all right, let's get this party started, and Buddha was there, and Soma was there, and it was like, she came over and was like, hey, check this out. You know how everyone's always saying, hey, check this out, and I'm like at the high times house thinking, fuck, this is not going to be good.

1:46:22BubblemanYeah. And it was. It was awesome. Is that what Nicole is? Is Shishkaberry also? Oh, she has it in her for sure.

1:46:34BubblemanThat Shishkaberry, that yellow cut, there were two lines. There were two phenos or traits. There was a yellow and a red line of the Shishkaberry, which I can't even remember what the Shishkaberry was now. It was like the Afghani crossed with some other... It was the first strain I ever put in a two-bag kit, like an isolator kit.

1:46:56SpeakerRed Afghani crossed to each other. Ah, there we go. Also the Kish, like with K-I-S-K, which is different than the Shishkeberry.

1:47:07BubblemanYeah, the Shishkeberry, dude. Oh, Breeder Steve, he was the breeder for that, and so it was in our circles, you know, and we had both lines, the red and the yellow, but the yellow was the one that stood out, and I would put my life on it that both the barb And Nicole have the yellow line of Shishka Berry in them.

1:47:27SpeakerYou know what I like about Breeders Steve? Tell us. He's all about the terpenes, bro.

1:47:35ToddYeah, dude.

1:47:36SpeakerThat's what he's about. He's about the flavors and where his drive got him to the point where he's at now is he don't even fuck with cannabis. He fucks with grapes and he loves his terpenes, bro. And he's Winning awards with his fucking grapes. Yep, he did actually.

1:47:55BubblemanAfter two years, he got 100 points on his ice wine, which he named the Sweet Tooth. And that 100 points was the first time any winery in Canada had ever been awarded a full 100 pointer. And so he got that after two or three years of having his winery, which is Rollingdale in Kelowna, B.C., for anyone that wants to check out Steve and support his latest ventures.

1:48:18BubblemanWhat Steve always said was, Because people, when he got into the wine, they wanted to know how long he was into wine. So instead of saying, like what he would say was, well, I've been into aromatic intoxicants for about 25 years. So he would never say that he was into wine because he wasn't. He had just gotten into wine, but he had been into aromatic intoxicants. For many, many years prior to that, and I think it's, you're right, his olfactory is on point.

1:48:46BubblemanHe was always one of those breeders whose hash melted and whose bud crippled you. So I understood that whatever he was using, his ability to choose strains and to find traits was directly connected to his olfactory. Because his strains always had sweet skunk and sweet tooth and, oh man, like, Grapefruit. Just some really nice, tasty strains that came from Steve over the years. And they did, he worked with DJ for a little bit, I think, too.

1:49:19BubblemanExactly, yeah. Steve and Dan became friends way back then. Another flavor guy. Yeah, and Steve brought Dan into our community, which was just another unbelievable, you know, to be able to have him in your community. I'll never forget my favorite experience ever with DJ Short. Was at one of Mark Emery's Tokers Bowls. And we were in the basement making hash. We had the bucket out. We were hand whipping some hash.

1:49:43BubblemanAnd it was like, you know, Mark McCoy was there from Rip Tech and Naboo from the Overgrow Days. And a bunch of cool people were around. And we were all kind of like, here, I'll stir for two minutes. You stir for two minutes. Dan was there. He was stirring. And then all of a sudden, Mark comes downstairs and he says, we've got to go to the restaurant right now.

1:50:01BubblemanWe're 15 minutes late. The bus is out front. So we all pick up the bucket. Go jump on this school bus, and I'm sitting next to Dan, and we're spinning up the batch on the school bus while driving through the streets of Vancouver. Man, I'll tell you, that shit, we got to this restaurant, it was all like this sort of Middle Eastern, with the chicks and the belly dancers, and the, oh, it was so, so good.

1:50:25BubblemanWe pulled that batch inside the restaurant. I've never in my life since made a batch of hash That started in one place and ended up literally like three places down the line before we were pulling it.

1:50:37ToddIt was awesome.

1:50:45BubblemanYou got to respect DJ Short. He definitely always also had the fire. That blueberry, my goodness. He's got some good tips too if you ever pick up his book. Does anyone know the name of his book or should I be looking it up?

1:51:02SpeakerDJ Short book. You've got to look it up. Actually, that's one of our new, we have a new DJ Short thing that we're doing. Like an old DJ Short blueberry crossed with like a DJ G. That's going to be good.

1:51:20BubblemanSo his book is called Cultivating Exceptional Cannabis, An Expert Breeder's Story. So if you guys want to check out DJ Short's book, original breeder of the blueberry, at least that West Coast, late 70s, early 80s, dankety blueberry wonderfulness. It's worth picking up. Definitely worth checking out. This couch is probably the most uncomfortable couch.

1:51:55SpeakerI think I've got to go like this.

1:51:56BubblemanThere we go. That's a relief right there. Sitting on like a 2x4 with my skinny little ass for like the last two hours balancing on this fucking...

1:52:07BubblemanBut hey, I'm still happy to be here.

1:52:13SpeakerHow long have we been on here?

1:52:15BubblemanAh, just under two hours. We haven't heard from Horatio yet today. You've been so quiet, bud. What's going on?

1:52:24AaronI got a lot on my mind. I mean, stuff from the start of the show when we were talking about standards and Anytime I'm trying to create something new, I usually go quiet and churn and churn and churn in my brain. But going back to things like microbials and how are we going to mass produce the type of extracts people need in their derivatives. And I'm just working on like how can I standardize the quality of even questionable material.

1:52:55AaronCould I produce a destructive process that eliminated Bacterials, microbes, could I distill it off through hot air and other processes to pull the cannabinoids out of whatever situation they're in and lock them down so that it's one clean, it's fully decarbed and with the lowest degradation possible. So I'm chewing and chewing and chewing in my brain as usual. And still thinking about my lotion, which I have sent out for processing to see if I can get that hydrosol to work as a natural, you know, aphrodisiac aromatic for people that they can rub behind their ears and it's just using a byproduct of a process.

1:53:39AaronSo I'm kind of quiet.

1:53:41BubblemanThese are the things that Horatio thinks about. Awesome. It's good on you, dude. It's good that someone's thinking about these things because I'll tell you, most people are not.

1:53:54BubblemanSomeone just asked me if Jen could elaborate on her move. I guess there's people out there that are from Utah, and they're like, they want to get the fuck out of Utah, and then they're like, oh, she was from Utah, and she got the fuck out of Utah. I wonder how she did that. So yeah, this dude, Walt Wright, just asked that question, and if you want to answer it, Jen, feel free.

1:54:16BubblemanHow did I get out of Utah?

1:54:19Jen DoeI actually met somebody, and... He gave me the opportunity to move out of state. It was actually really hard. And I just talked to somebody about this last night because I was talking about, you know, them being able to move to a different state. And they were like, well, I have kids. And I was like, you know, it's really unfortunate that a lot of people think that just because you have kids, you have some sort of chains holding you to a certain place.

1:54:48Jen DoeWell, I kind of felt like that too. But in the end, it's like, well, My kids are going to be happy if I'm happy. And so, you know, it's just a step that you have to take if that's what you want to do. I wanted to be able to expand what I was doing. Clearly couldn't do it in Utah. The whole, like legalize it in Utah, people don't want that because everything's underground.

1:55:16Jen DoeNobody wants to hand over any of their profit to the state. You know, it's hardcore down there. They don't want cannabis users there. So, I mean, I was very blessed to have an opportunity to be able to take that step and have somewhat of a support system already put in place. And without that, I mean, I might still be stuck there right now, at least until I could find some sort of a way to get out.

1:55:45Jen DoeBut you just have to take that step. Like, if you want to get out of there, you just have to move. If nothing's actually holding you there, like, it's funny because we have this mentality in Utah where I used to call myself a lifer. I was like, oh God, I'm a lifer. I'm never going to leave this place. It's horrible. Utah's great. Don't get me wrong. The laws suck.

1:56:03Jen DoeBut yeah, like, I don't know if it has to do with the culture or the way that we're brought up, but you kind of feel like you're there for life. Like, you're stuck. You're in this bubble and you cannot... Reach outside of your bubble, but people just have to realize that they have that power. You just have to pop it and get the fuck out. Just move.

1:56:25Jen DoePack your shit, find a place, and move. It's not as hard as it would seem, and it's a whole new world here. I'm still trying to figure out what I can say and what I can do to not get in trouble. I go to these events, and I still smoke weed, and I'm like, Making sure nobody's looking and it's just, it's this whole mentality that is just driven into us and it's about being able to step out of that and just not have that mentality and realize that you do have that freedom to leave.

1:56:58BubblemanAlright, speaking of mentality, when you said it's a whole new world, as the mother of three daughters, did you not hear it in the Disney song as you said it?

1:57:13BubblemanI only have one dog.

1:57:18Jen DoeYeah, well, I'll tell you what, my kids love it here. They're so happy we moved. They were also in the bubble, so it was one of those things where they were only willing to move because they knew it would make me happy. Like I said, I raised my kids knowing about cannabis and how it could affect our lives if anybody else knew about it. And so the opportunity for us to be open, like, was quite a shock to them as well, but they love it.

1:57:47Jen DoeThey're like, it's medicine. Finally, people aren't, like, looking down on us for it, and I don't have to feel like my mom's a drug user. You know, in Utah, I'm a drug addict. Here, I help people. Like, I grow medically. A caregiver. There's such a different perception. A what?

1:58:05BubblemanA caregiver. A giver of care. A giver of care.

1:58:08Jen DoeExactly. So it's, Yeah, you just have to get out of that little bubble and move. Just move. Just do it. It's easy.

1:58:18BubblemanI agree. I did it as well. And I never, I just, I moved out here. I knew barely any people. I knew one girl, Hillary Black, who would later start the BC Compassion Club later that year that I would become one of the first growers for. And I came out with very little cash to the West Coast and just got my hustle on and was like, I'm not going back to the prairies.

1:58:48BubblemanI'm not going back to minus 40 degree temperatures in the winter. And just, I don't know, I feel like a West Coaster, even though I was not born out here. I feel like it's where I belong. And I've traveled all over the world. I've been to You know, to Asia, like Thailand and Korea and India and all around Europe and Central America and the Caribbean. And I've done a lot of traveling through North America as well.

1:59:16BubblemanI'm always happy to come back to the West Coast.

1:59:21Jen DoeI agree. I feel like, like in Utah, I always just felt like there was something missing from my life. And when I came up here, I actually came up to the West Coast when I was Gosh, I want to say I was 18 is when I took my first little trip out here. And from that second, I was like, that's where I'm going to live. I'm going to live in either Washington or Oregon.

1:59:41Jen DoeIt just spoke to me.

1:59:45SpeakerThe best coast.

1:59:48Jen DoeThe best coast, yeah. I love it here.

1:59:51SpeakerIt's hard to move away from the West Coast.

1:59:59BubblemanI'm telling you. Well, you got it, right? And you're down in Cali, sort of in that, like, you've got all the warm weather and the fruit trees and, like, a whole bunch of stuff that we don't have in the northern, yeah, the waves.

2:00:12SpeakerThe waves. I lived in Amsterdam, too. That's the West Coast.

2:00:18BubblemanIt is. I was always tripped out the first time, you know, Doug and Mark and those hoodlum guys were like, we're going surfing, and I'd be like, what? You like surfing? Seems kind of cold.

2:00:34SpeakerYeah, the sea. It's not like really any waves in the sea over there. I think they should paddle boarding, but it might be a little too rough. Oh, dude, for sure. Holy shit.

2:00:51Jen DoeSo we don't have any of that in Utah. We're landlocked. We have I had some good friends from Utah that I met. If any of you guys are watching, I met you guys in the late 90s on String Cheese Tour. I think we actually met up in Whistler.

2:01:25BubblemanAnd then would see them at every String Cheese show and they were pretty well in with the band. They always would get me the VIP sticker thing that we'd go backstage and puff bowls with the band and with different people that were there. It was Charlie and who, what was the other guy's name? Zach? Charlie and Zach? They would literally find me at a concert by looking from a distance Where the biggest clouds of smoke were erupting.

2:02:00BubblemanLiterally no joke, that's how they would find me. And man, it happened on a multitude of occasions where they'd just come up and find me and be laughing so hard. And I'd be like, how did you find me? And they're like, bro. And it was because when you exhale hash, it's a darker smoke. It's a thicker, darker smoke when you exhale hash. And so I guess that's all I was smoking.

2:02:21BubblemanAnd I was blowing these big plumes out. I'd always have like a glass pipe or whatever, you know, put it in the hoodie. That was always a great way to get a nice piece into the show. They'd be searching your bags and looking in your pockets and shit, and I'd just have like a big marble slinger bubbler in my hoodie, walking through security while they're like taking the guy next to me, this poor bastard's getting his Mickey of whatever taken, and I'm just walking in with my bubbler like thinking, this is how it should be.

2:02:51BubblemanGood times. So I say, I shout those guys out. Get in touch with me if you're watching Hash Church. They always had a, you know what, I won't even say it. They had a nasty term for all the people from Utah that they would always call, really, not themselves, but just like, I guess the typical brainwashed Mormon person from Utah. I guess that was the person they had a little nickname for, but yeah.

2:03:18BubblemanIt's not very positive, so I won't talk about it here in Hash Church.

2:03:23SpeakerHey, those guys just got a hold of me, and they told me they haven't been seeing you at shows lately because they've been looking for the smoke clouds.

2:03:34SpeakerYeah, true story, man.

2:03:36BubblemanTrue story. Happened in Vancouver.

2:03:39SpeakerI was just at a show, the Foo Fighters, David Grohl's birthday show.

2:03:44BubblemanDude, how was that?

2:03:45SpeakerI heard that was, like, really good. It was pretty fucking epic, bro. My buddy's a security guard for Foo Fighters, so if they come to Vancouver, like, find out and then let me know and I'll get you in backstage and, you know, you can puff my boy out and everything and it's all good. We'll go check out the Foo Fighters.

2:04:05BubblemanI'm always super uncomfortable backstage, I have to admit.

2:04:09SpeakerYeah, well, you just go listen to the show, smoke some weed backstage, go listen to the show, or smoke weed at the show, whatever.

2:04:16BubblemanWell, we know when it's good, it's good. Like I said, those dudes bringing me, they were from Utah, and they literally knew the string cheese incident since they were young. So it was like literally going and puffing with those guys was more like puffing with you and Matt and Flav at the table in Whistler, whereas you know most of the experiences people have when they go backstage.

2:04:34BubblemanIt's like, oh, this is awkward and uncomfortable. Thank you for watching.

2:05:05SpeakerLike he was just sitting in his seat and the security guard was right behind him and he blew a cloud out and the wind blew it right past him backwards and blew right past the security guard. And then the security guard turned around. I looked at the security guard. My buddy didn't even pay attention. He took another big toke off the joint, right, and then blew it out.

2:05:24SpeakerAnd then he turned around as the smoke is turning around and hit the security guard. And the security guard's like, oh, you You know you can't be smoking in your seat right here, right? And I was dying laughing, bro. But I've seen that same security guard at multiple shows now, and he's like, I know you. And I'm like, yeah, I know you too. So don't fuck with me.

2:05:44SpeakerI smoke some weed. And just don't mess with me. He's like, don't worry, bro. This show's all good to smoke. You know?

2:05:51BubblemanYou. It's always the weirdest vibe when you can't smoke at a concert.

2:05:56SpeakerIt's even weirder when you're smoking and then Some father rolls up with his teenage son and wants his son to get a better look, so he asks you if he can get in front of you while you're smoking a joint, and you're like, well, yeah, I'm going to be a nice guy. But then you realize the smoke is just blowing at his teenager the whole night.

2:06:18BubblemanMaybe he just really wanted to get his teenage son stoned but didn't have any good weed. Smelt your tangy from across the room and was like, I think we should just get a tan from that guy.

2:06:31Jen DoeBut Dad's trying to get out of that concert early, so he's trying to put the kid to sleep.

2:06:36BubblemanLater that night.

2:06:42BubblemanAwesome. Very good.

2:06:51BubblemanAre you in the YouTube chat, Johnny B? All sorts of people are asking questions and talking about you, telling you that they're fans of your channel.

2:07:01SpeakerI have been out of the way for two seconds and I'm talking with... I don't have a very good day. This morning was kind of waking up here, getting things going.

2:07:19BubblemanYou know, it's funny. I was guessing, because Samantha never mentioned where she would move, but if you live in the UK... And it's pissy rainy all year long. It's like living in Amsterdam. You're definitely going to Spain or Portugal or Mallorca or like one of those spots. It's like you're definitely not like, we're thinking of moving like... Sunshine. Yeah. Sunshine. And have you ever found that being in warmer weather gives you less pain in your body?

2:07:50SamanthaOh, yeah, most definitely. Yeah, that's another main reason that we want to move as well. It's like my pain is so much better in the summer, but like now it's worse because it's just, it's so damp and cold. It's just, yeah, it really affects them.

2:08:07BubblemanYeah, that makes sense. It's the same. I always feel, not that I'm in like extreme pain or anything, I just, I'm getting older. I broke like 16 plus bones. And when I go to a warmer climate, just little things that I almost didn't even notice before are gone, and then I really notice them when they're not there anymore.

2:08:25SpeakerI'm like, wow, that was like pain I was dealing with. I'm never going inner tubing again down the snow course. Listen, it's okay to go inner tubing. You just can't drag your ass. Dude, I went over that thing backwards, and then it fell on my ass.

2:08:43BubblemanHe went over right at the end going super fast. There's this like bag. I don't know what the bag is. It's just like burlap material. It might be sand, yeah. And it's just supposed to slow you down, but he was dragging his ass and the bottom of the tube is just a little piece of material. So literally it was probably like getting kicked by Andre the Giant right in the ass.

2:09:05BubblemanDevin is shivering right now at the thought because he just overshot a jump about a week and a half ago and landed on his Cossacks. And bruised the entire back of his spine. He was like walking around like a 70-year-old for a while.

2:09:21SpeakerTake it easy, Devin. So the people in China are being assholes. I think Rachel is going to have to talk about that. And I was also going to mention, Samantha, did you manage to read all that information I sent you? Let me see what kind of discussion this is.

2:09:40BubblemanWho are you asking that question to, John?

2:09:43SpeakerWell, someone in the chat is asking about THCV, and it happens to be a few of the strains that I particularly like for my pain, and Horatio actually would probably know a little bit more about that, because he's got something good for that. And I was also asking Samantha about the information that I sent her, if she managed to read all that, how that was working out with the amino acids and stuff that we were talking about earlier last week.

2:10:07SamanthaYes, I have been reading through it, Janet. I think I probably need to read it another ten times before it's like fully in my brain, but I think I am slowly but surely understanding it. So yeah, I've got some amino acids on order, so hopefully they should be here soon. So yeah, I'm looking forward to trying those out, definitely. So yeah, thank you for all the information, and yeah, just please keep sending me more, because I feel like I've got a lot to learn.

2:10:37SpeakerExcellent, yeah, I send you some every week, so I'll send you some more at the end of the day today. And I'll compliment everyone as I go forward.

2:10:49BubblemanAwesome, Johnny B, always helpful, always helpful.

2:10:55SpeakerYeah, T, T, B, and Horatio, we were talking about that, and it was when he gave me the certain... Tony seems to have the areas. I can unmute you, Tony.

2:11:31BubblemanUnless I push the button at the same time.

2:11:34SpeakerI don't, I couldn't, I wish I had more information in studying and testing on THC-B and there's more quantity of it to know more, to be able to preach more educated on it, but I always find that in the inactive acids and activated versions of cannabinoids that there seems to be an antagonist and an antithesis. When something, when there's a combination of four We're going to talk a little bit more about what we're going to talk about today.

2:12:03SpeakerWe're going to talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about today. We're going to talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about today.

2:12:28SpeakerAnd the way we're absorbing those amino acids is being affected. It could be that that element in its whole plant, that's why that little bit of THCV in, say, the raw juice we're using or in the whole plant is just enough to stimulate or balance or do something within that system. So I think there's still a lot to be learned about it, but that's where my head and thoughts are at with that particular compound.

2:12:58AaronWell, Tony, one of the things I noticed in looking at, okay, well, you've got this micro compound that is a THC. What does the V really stand for? Because we all hear, okay, THC is great for pain, and I'm like, well, that didn't work. And, for instance, we tend to think of cushions for pain, but this THC V only works on backs. It doesn't work on gallbladder pain.

2:13:24AaronSo it's not a global pain statement. It seems to address a certain type of pain. That's why last week I had questions about CBDV, which is starting to show up in the testing because it seems to do the same, not the general statement CBD, but it goes acutely in for convulsions. And the why, and especially because only certain people are testing enough to go, hey, you know, you're getting a little, this 0.5 is coming back consistently.

2:13:51AaronDo you have any data on it? Because CBDV I got it from a lab panel where they were all talking about Humboldt County and the big CBD race and what they were finding that was coming up as anomalies. And that's when I was like, okay, well, that's that subtlety that may be why CBD in weed is so medically beneficial, but the hemp CBD seems to be a flat statement.

2:14:13AaronIt could be that we just haven't tested for the .25 that shows up in this V variable that's showing up under THC and CBD.

2:14:23SpeakerYeah, and I think it's also directly related to the spectrum of light with that particular strain. So, like, if you grow greenhouse or outside, especially in Humboldt, and the crew that you're talking about, I'm friends with Martin with Project CBD, and they do a lot of different kind of research on their own. I tend to concur a lot with them, and they said the same thing with...

2:14:47SpeakerThese little micro percentages of other types of cannabinoids like CBDV and things like this. And so I just don't think there's enough information out there just yet, but that's why I also like everything in its raw and whole plant because I also think those activation points are very, very important. And so like we were talking last time about the categories and why I was doing this with the 1, 2, 3, 4.

2:15:16SpeakerIt was that way so you can actually build and stack different ratios and combinations of raw cannabinoids with terpenes in the body daily. So you could have a breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime dose and you could have inactive during the day and active at night. So you're getting a full spectrum and with all those particular ratios. And that's why I liked heating them and activating them in 30 minute increments because I'm just trying to Be like a, just give every possibility out there, you know, because then when you go to test something, that's what this whole, that's what this is about.

2:15:54SpeakerThat's why I engineered it this way. So if you were to engineer something and you would say, okay, we're going to do some rodent and some human clinical trials and we wanted to target specifically acute pain, you would want to have the ability to know what the strain was, the genetic was, repeat the extraction process, duplicate those, Extracts in those products so that way you can apply those methodologies and get the results so that one day, you know, somebody will be like, aha, you need 0.2 CBDV with one milligram of CBD activated, you know.

2:16:33SpeakerAnd I think it's important to understand that all of those things have to be captured early on, not when the plant's aged and dead. So that's why I've never really been such a big component or a fan of hemp CBD, like hemp products, because it's aged, it's a dead plant, it's something taken with different types of solvents, and it's like the furthest away from the starting source, the whole plant.

2:17:01SpeakerYou know, and you think of whole plant medicine, so it's on the full other side of the spectrum. And I think you would see in that, when you look at the age spectrum, Different variations. So we know we have CBGA, then there's THCA and CBDA that branch from that. So you would imagine that the other 85 also have their acid forms. And then based on the sun spectrum or the light intensity or what part of the year that is and how much light and day, it's going to stimulate certain trigger patterns within those terpene profiles and those cannabinoid profiles with that particular light.

2:17:36SpeakerAnd as that develops on the plant, And you take that off of the plant, it also has its aging period and its heating period. And so there's all these little tiny micro adjustments along the way that we can't forget about. We need to leave room for those, the ability to study them. So I'm just trying to create like the first pieces on the chessboard and go, okay, now we have the chessboard.

2:18:00SpeakerWe haven't even started playing yet. You know, we just needed to create the options first. And so I think it's still way early But I do think that it's good philosophy to understand that there's no way it's just CBD or just THC. That was isolated in the 70s. That was tested a long time ago. There's no way it's just that. You know? Profile.

2:18:28BubblemanProfile, cannabinoid profile, pure plant profile. It's all coming back to this. Profile, and that's the complexity of it and the lack of science was really one of the ways they were able to, I mean, you think that if it's helping regulate and run a system like the endocannabinoid system, it's not going to be a simple molecule. It's not going to be a simple one and only the one.

2:18:54BubblemanIt's going to be a diverse range of phytocannabinoids and terpenes and terpenoids and, you know, What I call the full profile, the plant profile, because you have a terpene profile, you have a cannabinoid profile, but then you have a full plant profile. And I think that's what, I think that's what now that we're able to look at the plant like that, we can look at it more as something that will be extracted to get the raw essence out of it, you know, the phytocannabinoids, the hash.

2:19:31BubblemanOopsie, there we go, full screen.

2:19:40BubblemanGo into the chat here for a second and read out a few things. People are talking about humidities and such. People want to invite a bunch of different people into Hash Church as well. They were talking about getting Subcool in one day or maybe Soma. Crockett was one person that they asked if he could come.

2:20:02BubblemanCome to Hash Church one day.

2:20:06BubblemanMy computer's freezing up a little bit if I sound like I'm pausing at awkward moments here, guys. Just have to wait. There we go. She's back.

2:20:27BubblemanWhat's going on in Amsterdam, guys? You guys are smiling big.

2:20:31SpeakerWe were just talking about calling up Soma, inviting him in.

2:20:36BubblemanI sent him a link on his page on, I don't know, it's like a Facebook page, Soma Mission or whatever. I just sent it to a private message. But I think those pages, when I get messages like that, they don't notify me because it's not a personal page. You actually have to go check those pages for a message to come in. So I didn't think that he was going to see it and then come in right away.

2:20:59BubblemanBut yeah, well, invite him in.

2:21:01SpeakerAlways welcome to come in. And your screens over at his the other day.

2:21:07BubblemanYeah, and if people in chat have questions, you know, we've got, you know, we had, well, Aaron's here from DNA. We got Rick DeLisi, whose father's serving an insane 98-year sentence in Florida. Ramon next to him from OCD Labs, killing it in the extract game these days. Horatio, the D-limonene extractor. Jen Doe with her boob cure, Cannabis Cup winner. Johnny B with all his positiveness and his education.

2:21:35BubblemanWe got Samantha with her unbelievably inspirational story. Tony V as always dropping knowledge like, you know, like bombs. Knowledge bombs. So if you have, and I'm Bubble Man. You guys know who I am. So if you have questions for any of us, feel free to shoot them out. Because we're here to chat. We're here to talk. We're here to answer your questions. And, you know, We're down to 330 people now, but we did have, we had about 410 at one point today, and I'm never worried about how many people are in the chat.

2:22:11BubblemanI'm always happy to see that 6,000 to 10,000 people watch Hash Church generally every 10 days or so after an episode, and we get up to close to 10,000 views, which is good. I'd appreciate it, actually, if you guys... I'm going to promote Hash Church tomorrow once I put the live event up, and then I'll put that link on my Facebook. If you see that link, I would definitely appreciate you guys sharing it on your social medias, getting it out there so more people can be exposed to the information.

2:22:46BubblemanIf you think that we should invite someone on, if you have a particular person, feel free to get in touch with me. Bubbleman at bubblebag.com. You can send me an email and just put hashchurch in capital letters in the subject. And the only other thing I wanted to mention was hashtags. The hashtag bubblehash and the hashtag bubblebag. Start using them on your social media and you could find yourself winning a little bit of a prize, a little bit of a bonus from Fresh Hatties.

2:23:19BubblemanIt's not going to be anything illegal, but it could be like a set of one-gallon bags. It could be a set of dry-sift screens. It could be a vaporizer. I want to give some stuff away, and I thought, what better way than to just go right off the bat, random, Instagram hashtag, bubble bag, bubble bags, and bubble hash. I can go into those hashtags, and if I see a picture that inspires me, or if I just click on a picture or whatnot, I'll leave you a little message on your picture.

2:23:48BubblemanEven if it's Twitter, I'll reply, or if it's Facebook, and let you know that you've won something. So all you have to do is use the hashtags, and something may or may not be coming your way. I always have the hardest time trying to promote myself in any way. I always feel like, oh, this is like a sellout, I shouldn't be doing this. But I thought, well, if I'm giving things away and just asking people to use hashtags so I can find them, to find their inspirational photos or stories or whatever...

2:24:16BubblemanAnd then send them a nice little gift. That can't be a bad thing, can it?

2:24:19SpeakerCan it? I want to go snowmobiling.

2:24:24BubblemanDude, listen, I called Flav yesterday. I texted Flav yesterday and I said, I said, I said, sell your fucking house. Buy a snowmobile, buy a house, because he's thinking of selling his home and moving into my area. And I'm like, man, that would be so amazing if his family could move closer to me, even though he's not very far away now. But really what I'm more concerned with is him getting a snowmobile so we can go out and have epic fun.

2:24:53BubblemanAnd he texted me back, I have three rigs for sale right now.

2:25:02BubblemanSo he's thinking about it.

2:25:07SpeakerBro, this is insane video, bro. Which one?

2:25:12BubblemanOh, God. It's just wide open. Dude, I know. Okay, Aaron's watching the video that I just re-released on YouTube about 10 minutes ago, and it is called Snowmobiling Heaven. And it was a day that I had up with a couple of friends, Chris and Ryan. We were up on the Pemberton Ice Caps, and nobody was there, and it was Bluebird, and it was Fresh Pal had just fallen.

2:25:37BubblemanSo it was completely insane. Everywhere we went, there were no tracks. And all those tracks you see, in fact, are our tracks. So with the first sled video where you see a few tracks, those are ones we already made. So that's why I ended up making the second sled video after the snowboard clip where I go up that one big face. And at first, it's just going up a mountain.

2:25:59BubblemanBut you can tell as it gets steeper and steeper and steeper, the front of the sled comes up into view of the camera. I was blown away at the quality of that video when I watched it a couple of days ago, and it's why I made a video to put on Bubble Man's World, because I thought, you know what? People need to see this shit, so you can check that out on the channel, no problem.

2:26:24BubblemanAnd Jen, you can go snowmobiling. You're on the West Coast.

2:26:29Jen DoeSo I actually hate the snow. I was just joking.

2:26:35BubblemanOh my gosh. No. No. No.

2:26:40Jen DoeYou know what the problem is? I don't think I've ever had the appropriate snow gear. As funny as that sounds, living in Utah, like, I don't like to be cold, so I don't know why I chose water hash, but I hate being cold. I have certain, like, I have certain muscle spasm issues in my back, like in my upper shoulders right here and stuff. And so when I get cold, my shoulders will raise up like this to my ears, and they just nod up like crazy, and it gives me migraines.

2:27:10Jen DoeYou know what, it's like a switch.

2:27:13BubblemanThere's a switch. I've spent eight-hour days in the backcountry where there's no indoors. We sit and hang out on our sleds. We sit on snow and have meals. Sometimes we stay even later, and it gets darker. And, uh, I don't know why, but it must be, what do you think, Dev? Is it the layering? Is it just that there's a switch, isn't there, where you just don't get cold anymore?

2:27:35BubblemanWell, we're not out there shivering on the mountain.

2:27:37SpeakerWell, you're layered up, really.

2:27:39BubblemanThat's what I mean, though. Like, when we're hanging out at the igloo or whatever, and we're hanging out for hours, are people, like, shivering and freezing? We're sitting on ice.

2:27:47SpeakerYeah. It's like, no, it's like, you're still going up in the sunshine when the sun's there.

2:27:53BubblemanI don't think it has anything to do with the seven liters of, uh, Fireball that they drink, but it's possible.

2:28:02Jen DoeFireball will always warm you up.

2:28:05SpeakerYeah.

2:28:05Jen DoeNo, I'm kidding. Not after too much.

2:28:09SpeakerI want to try those fried tequila shots. They look crazy.

2:28:15Jen DoeThey are so good. If anybody hasn't heard about those, oh my gosh, they were amazing. They didn't really taste like tequila either.

2:28:27SpeakerAll I can think about right now is snowmobiles. Bingo.

2:28:32BubblemanYou just saw that video, dude.

2:28:33SpeakerYou're watching that video again? I'm watching this video right now. It's just like nothing up there. It's just snow on top of a mountain.

2:28:42BubblemanYeah, and then when you go over the mountain, there's just more mountains on the other side to go over. Yeah, but it's just snow.

2:28:49SpeakerIt's just snow. It's just snowpack. You know? It's wide open. Oh, sneaky. Thanks for serving it up, Dev. You're going right to a little lake and shit? That's badass.

2:29:13BubblemanYeah, and you know what these crazy bastards up there have done, Aaron? Tell me. They've gone and they've built... Okay, so the snowmobile is like the helicopter. It's limited to a certain distance that it can travel. So we have gas cans, and we can use a little bit of the gas, but you need to be able to get back. So what they've started to do, well, they've done this for decades.

2:29:34BubblemanThey've built cabins, little tiny makeshift cabins that are just in the middle of fucking nowhere. And it's just for gas drops. They bring gas tanks there and bring gas there each time so they have gas. Sleep there maybe because you get there late and it takes a long time. And then keep going further the next day, deeper into the backcountry, like more than a day into the backcountry on a sled, which to me is pretty fucking psychotic.

2:30:07BubblemanIt's Narvar, dude. It's like, especially because it's not like when you go that far that now they're going to be careful and smart. They're still hocking off 80-foot cliffs and doing all sorts of gnarly shit back there because no one's just back there to drive their sled. Around, sitting down, I hope.

2:30:29BubblemanNot a day in, anyway. Yes, Hash Church has turned into Snowmobile Church.

2:30:36SpeakerPretty cool, bro. But you smoke hash on the snowmobile, so it's part of the religion.

2:30:41BubblemanWell, you know what? What we're going to do in the near future is we're going to go to that very same spot, the Pemberton Ice Caps, and we're going to go find the ice cave, And we're going to just go in there and make a little batch of bubble hash, and I think that it will be truly a video, potentially one that has the most potential to go viral of anything that I've ever produced.

2:31:03Jen DoeYeah. So I'll buy all the gear, and we will dress me up in about 12 layers so I look like that kid from A Christmas Story. And I'll just kind of waddle in in my big-ass clothes, and then I won't be cold. And I'll come home and make bubble hash with you guys in an ice cave.

2:31:20BubblemanPerfect. You know what? It's even less than that. It's Leafa. You just need an under layer of like wool, merino, Leafa, and it's real tight. It fits your body, your legs, and your upper body, and it's almost like the way a neoprene suit works in allowing water to get in between your body and the neoprene, and then your body warms that water up, and you have this sort of thermal layer between you and the cold ocean that you're scuba diving in.

2:31:45BubblemanLeafa works in a similar way. It wicks sweat properly. And it just keeps you warm. Like, I don't really know how to explain it any better than that. But I also really don't like being cold. But I love the snow.

2:32:02Jen DoeHey, what's up, Mars? What's up, Mars? My daughter was really upset when we moved, only because she misses the snow. So when she went back to Utah just for Christmas to visit her dad, she was like, it's okay, Mom. I get to go sledding. And I was like, all right, cool. So... She gets her snow down there.

2:32:22SpeakerHi, Mom. Hi, Mom. How are you, sweetie?

2:32:26BubblemanGood. I saw a picture of you on the quad. That looked pretty awesome.

2:32:36SpeakerAnd pretty cool. I know. Are you going to be in the X Games? Tell them about your rock climbing. And I go dog climbing now and it was good.

2:32:52BubblemanOh wow, that's great to hear. I'm happy to hear that. Here look, I have a picture of you on the quad. There you are with your quad.

2:33:00SpeakerYeah.

2:33:01BubblemanWoo! That's awesome.

2:33:08BubblemanDNA Army, growing every day. Growing every day. She doesn't even know.

2:33:15Jen DoeMake him want to grab my hands and make him say hi.

2:33:17BubblemanIt's awesome. It's awesome.

2:33:21Jen DoeWe should have a kid hash church where we just introduce some of the little ones. I think that would be pretty cool to get their opinions on some stuff since they're so involved with our lives. It'd be kind of cool to hear the smaller perspective.

2:33:37BubblemanDevin's like, yeah, get them all puffing tough. No. My kids don't smoke.

2:33:44Jen DoeNo, they don't smoke. And I think that would be an interesting perspective for them to give, actually, because my kids don't even consider smoking at all. It's medicine. They don't even blink an eye at it.

2:33:57BubblemanMore into vaping, eh?

2:33:59Jen DoeYeah.

2:34:00SpeakerI'm going to sign off, you guys. Daddy calls.

2:34:06BubblemanThanks for coming out, Aaron, and say bye to Mars. Say hi to the fam, and... We'll talk to you hopefully next week.

2:34:14SpeakerYeah, I'll be around. I'll make it around. I'll wake up to Ash. Awesome, dude. All right, you guys. Take it easy. One love. Peace, guys.

2:34:28BubblemanYeah, I'm going to go up the mountain in the next 20 minutes or so, but I'll keep Hash Church going for a bit. First, I'm going to have an off-camera sneeze.

2:34:42SpeakerOff camera sneeze.

2:34:43BubblemanI thought so, but I don't think I'm going to now. Once I said it, it was just like, nope, no you're not.

2:34:50SpeakerNo you're not. I'm just sitting here talking with Mike. A lot of people know Mike and his fight with his cancer story and stuff. And we had some pretty amazing news when we went to the hospital last week. And I think we'll maybe jump on him in here and he may be able to tell a little bit of what he's doing lately with his cancer and his fight with cannabis.

2:35:06BubblemanAwesome, dude. That'd be great.

2:35:10SpeakerSo I'm going to send him out the link here. Hopefully he'll know how to jump in and know that he has to mute everything in the beginning. Mike's got some pretty amazing news and hopefully with more testing we'll be able to see exactly what's going on. But if people don't know, my neighbor Mike, he got diagnosed with a rare type of cancer back in August. One section in his rib, the other in his spine.

2:35:34SpeakerHe's had it in the past and he'd be fighting it basically for most of his life. And after six months of hardcore cannabis therapy, first with bubble hash to 30 grams of shatter and to Rick Simpson oil and to Horatio drops and to whatever we can compile Mike with, and his last test, I hope we can get in here, came back as a result that the doctor was very confused and he's ordering more tests.

2:36:01SpeakerHe couldn't find the one specifically in the rib. Thank you for watching.

2:36:35BubblemanYeah, it's just always good to hear a positive story. I guess it also shows that, you know, there's a lot of unknown variables. And that's why when we're getting into all of these different snake oil salesmen that are going to sell you CBD, this and that, all these different stores are available.

2:36:58SpeakerI've just got LinkedIn.

2:36:59BubblemanI've just got LinkedIn. I've got mic talk because I'm going to be not sounding good through his mic, but welcome, Mike, and go ahead, buddy.

2:37:09SpeakerYou'll have to turn the YouTube data off. What? Fine, whatever. Whatever.

2:37:27BubblemanI'm going to mute Mike and when he gets his situation figured out, which is simple, you just have to close the YouTube chat down because what's happening is all of our voices from that chat, which is on a delay, are being picked up by your speakers or your mic.

2:37:44SpeakerMike was next door so I'm going to anticipate there will be a knock on my door any second. So I'm going to go open up my front door and he'll see me.

2:37:52BubblemanAwesome Johnny B. Awesome Johnny B. Little technical difficulties here, people. We are only human, after all.

2:38:02BubblemanAh. Oh, wait. Yes, yes, there it is. Perfect. All right. We're good to go. Mike's going to give us an update on his condition. John did tell us a little bit about it last week, but it'll be great to hear about Mike in his own person. Where I was going with that, just as Mike came in, was that... You know, if you're out there and you're sick and you're looking to get better, I don't think, you know, aside from really a few people right now out of the masses, I just say seek out more than one source.

2:38:34BubblemanSeek out more than one thing. If you think you only need CBD, think again. Find a whole plant extract. Find something that's, you know, safe. A lot of people contact me all the time asking where they can get it. If I lived in the U.S., I wouldn't think twice about having a friend In California or Washington or any of the friendly states that have dispensaries, I wouldn't think twice about buying a small amount of concentrate and having it sent to me.

2:39:00BubblemanI'm not trying to promote everyone to break federal laws. I'm just saying that when it's about life and death and when it's about a small child not seizing epileptic seizures for the entire day and night or when it's about someone being able to recoup back some of their life and get away from pharmaceutical drugs, Well, then that's something that has to be considered, you know?

2:39:25BubblemanSo, and then for people in Europe, I mean, it's the same thing once again, you know? You have these few places where you can get things like that. I mean, really, we think of Amsterdam as a place as, oh, ha, ha, ha, you can go to Amsterdam and get stoned in the streets and go to the coffee shops and have this great time, but really the importance of it to me nowadays is when people in Europe tell me that they're having problems, and I'm able to say, well, if you can, Make it to Amsterdam.

2:39:50BubblemanIf you know someone in Amsterdam, like go to Amsterdam, you know, get a little bit of concentrate and get it mailed back to yourself or I wouldn't personally carry it over a border. But everyone has to make their own personal decisions when it comes to, you know, this insanely strange area that we've been, this gray area that we've been placed into. Me now less than some. For having a federal exemption in Canada.

2:40:14BubblemanBut I still feel it. I travel a lot. I go to different countries. And when I'm in those countries at the border, at the customs, I feel, I hope I cleaned my bags well enough. I hope I cleaned my denail well enough. You know, I worry about these things that seemingly I don't really think I should have to be worrying about. Like that shit takes years off my life.

2:40:34BubblemanI feel the stress. And it's like it's not really an ideal thing. When the drug dog just keeps walking back and forth beside you at the airport in Kingston and you're just like, you know.

2:40:46SpeakerI got stopped in customs. It was the worst thing ever. They surrounded me and he was like, drogas. And I was just like, oh no, this isn't real. All of a sudden, three, four of them surrounded me, started going through my belly case, looking at the titanium. Everything was clean. I cleaned everything, but they were looking at it like, they were like, they took the nail, they took the dabber, and I was like, oh, it was the worst thing, worst feeling ever, though, like sweat dripping off my forehead, just.

2:41:24SpeakerYeah, customs. I found they don't like you carrying dabbers in your hand luggage for some reason. Well, I know why.

2:41:31BubblemanBecause they can't understand dabbers. Listen, Martin gave me a glass dabber one year, and I put it in my Pelican case and forgot it in the back between the material. And I go through, and I think it was in Jamaica. And it was like they kept putting it through the x-ray thing, and then they opened it up, and they're just like, they're like, what? Is this? And I'm just like, oh, oh, it's like, I guess that could look like something that, I'm like, in fact, yeah, I could fuck someone up with that thing.

2:42:02BubblemanNot that I'm the type of person to do that. I showed them that it was glass and that it would break very, very easily and they were kind of like, okay. So they let me have it and I ended up probably passing through maybe four or five different borders of four or five different countries in the year that ensued with that thing and A few times had them be like, what is that?

2:42:23BubblemanOf all the things, the big glass bong and the denail with the wizard and the resin glands and all the dabbers and the titanium carb caps, the only thing they're tripped out about is the glass. I guess it shows up as a different color, potentially one like ceramic, and I think ceramic weapons are not appreciated at the airport securities anywhere in the world. All right, John. John has Mike.

2:42:54BubblemanWelcome back, Mike.

2:42:55SpeakerHello, how are you? I remember when Mike came over, you know, pull on a bong, and he just did the nicest bong rip, and I was just about to say high five, you know, but, yeah, well, here's Mike, and he'll tell you more about his story with his beginning at the All this fight with pharmaceutical and where he stands with, I told a little bit about the doctor's appointment, but maybe get up to it.

2:43:16SpeakerA little bit more about maybe why you're using cannabis now in the background and let people know what you're about. Well, everyone knows John and cannabis is because of John. I was on pharmaceuticals, something like $1,500 worth of pharmaceuticals a month. My wife was up like $350, so it was $1,850 a month and I was all paid by my extended healthcare plan. And that was probably actually more than I was making at the time as it was.

2:43:40SpeakerSo it's quite a bit of money out there in pharmaceuticals. It's poisoning my body. It was doing all kinds of things to me. And over the years and things like that, I've just had enough. Discovered I had cancer and I got disciplined different. So I ditched it all. So 2011, I got rid of, well, nine of them or something. I think I got one in the pocket.

2:44:01SpeakerI lost like 35, almost 40 pounds between January and September. I've lost all weight because of the pharmaceuticals. And I've been gradually going on cannabis and tinctures and everything else like that. And what was it, 90 days, 100 days now I've been doing regimen. August 28th is when Mike came over here. And August 28th is when Mike was diagnosed. He came over to my house. And at this point, he'd be trying cannabis caps on and off, giving me caps, and slowly introducing him to cannabis, to slowly growing your own food, taking amino acids.

2:44:37SpeakerIt's been quite a good change for Mike. Everybody around him has seen it. His own father, who worked as a law enforcement for years, has totally endorsed it, so it was really cool to see. It's awesome, man. Just more in the story, but yeah, when he got diagnosed, I said, okay, Mike, it's time. I said, one day it's going to happen. And it started off with... Thank you for joining us.

2:45:19SpeakerAnd I'm so grateful to them. I really appreciate it very much. It's definitely made a difference. When the doctor saw on the screen here, he's got... Yeah, let me get him up to the appointment. So for a little bit, then Horatio, I don't know how you got into Horatio drops and a little bit more about what you're doing with him. And then from Tony getting into microdosing, we were talking about that.

2:45:40SpeakerSo it kind of led into now you have an alarm. He keeps it in his pocket and... Every hour he takes dosages, he takes ripped Simpson oil, you've got to basically, your baked goods of course, he's cooking.

2:45:57SpeakerThen we got to the doctors, I remember what happened leading up to it, your anxiety and a lot, so I need you to tell them. The anxiety was so much so that it spins off from November last year when I was supposed to have had an appointment with the doctor and suddenly got a call from the secretary and he cancelled. And no reason, no nothing. And that was it.

2:46:20SpeakerSo I called back. I didn't get an answer. I tried to get back some answers. And again, it was just crazy. It was almost two months. It was just like nothing. Finally got a bit of a lead on something into hearing more January and whatnot and some radiation and some other things and other news and whatnot, which is all good. But we want to find out how the character is going.

2:46:39SpeakerSo now I finally got another appointment. And now we sit down in January, and he never said nothing to me about apology or nothing like that for canceling the appointment. What we did is we sat down, we had a look on the screen because he wanted to make a point. And so he's got this one picture here, he's got another picture here, he sent me for an x-ray, he says, come on in the tub, look at this.

2:46:58SpeakerAnd then I could see the picture side by side, and you could see how they're parallel and they're identical. And he was looking, oh, here's the tumor over here, and he's talking like this, and Okay, then he goes deeper into the picture, he goes shallower into the picture, he can't seem to find it. Well, there's another one in your rib, and he goes ahead and changes the picture, and over there, and it flashed, there it is in the rib.

2:47:18SpeakerBut, okay, we really have to pinpoint where it is exactly on the rib. He was puzzled. He was very puzzled. He was puzzled, the look on his face was really, really just, it was really... He was puzzled, he had no idea. He says, I'm ordering a CT scan. The CT scan is right across the office, right there. And when you're finished here, you come to my office, and we're going to view it.

2:47:41SpeakerAnd I'm going to call you in seven days. I want to see this. So I thought, well, that's kind of cool. So I'm just waiting for the call now, and we're going to see what happens. And hopefully, it might be this week. It'll be this week. Hopefully, it'll progress to an even bigger scan. And the big scan I'd like to see is maybe the MIBG, which is the big, expensive scan.

2:47:58SpeakerIt's probably $5,000 or $6,000 just for the scan by itself. And then they can do another pinpoint finding and see what they're looking at. So we'll see.

2:48:08BubblemanAwesome, Mike. That's fucking great, dude. It's good to see you too. You look good, man. You got like good color in your face and you look... I'm feeling better. I'm feeling a little better. Excellent. Well, we love hearing stories of people getting better and feeling better because, well, there's just too many people who are getting sick. My goodness, it's unbelievable. It's too bad... David Allen wasn't able to get back in here and he's always good to, I love his perspective, I kind of love the way he thinks and he's definitely got a pretty broad spectrum of knowledge when it comes to the endocannabinoid signaling system as he calls it.

2:48:47SpeakerI was just talking about, well you know what, yeah, I just wanted to let you know, everybody's been asking about Mike so I kind of wanted to just bring him in and you know what and People getting to know him from my YouTube channel and stuff because he's definitely a great help in making Hash together and being the neighbor. We've been helping each other out quite a bit, so it's been a lot of good stuff.

2:49:11SpeakerIt's kind of better here, too, anyhow, instead of individual. We're an extra neighbor. Why don't you sit here and have the same camera?

2:49:17BubblemanWhen are you going to get your channel, Mike? Do you have a YouTube channel coming?

2:49:21SpeakerI have a YouTube. I have plugged it in now and then when people have asked. So where else should I put it? Touch your YouTube channel right now.

2:49:28BubblemanWell, just tell us right now and then I can punch it into the...

2:49:32SpeakerIf you look under Torah Kitchen, that's what I label it, T-O-R-A-H, kitchen, at gmail.com. No, your YouTube channel? That's YouTube channel, yeah. I just label it that, by kitchen. Nice. So Mike's been doing some cooking. Yeah. So basically it's like cooking things on there.

2:49:51BubblemanThomas Root says, Mike is the man. So glad you're doing so much better. God bless the cannabis. Oh, here's a great quote by Aldous Huxley that was mentioned much earlier, but now Thaddeus Bong-Takel has mentioned again. Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left. Great quote from Aldous Huxley. Sorry. Feed your endocannabinoid system. There it is. It's a valid thing.

2:50:20BubblemanPeople might think you're insane, but the next time you're sitting down with mom and dad and they're enjoying that beer after work and that third glass of wine for the day, you can bring up cannabis and not feel like you're a criminal.

2:50:40SpeakerAll right.

2:50:42BubblemanWow, no cell phone for you either, Samantha? Who was telling me? Remo. Remo does not have a cell phone, has no cell phone. Blew me away. I couldn't believe that Remo had no cell phone because I text him all the time and now I'm like, oh right, I'm texting his wife Sandra. Oops.

2:51:02BubblemanNow there's a trusting relationship. That's how trusting Remo is. He just lets Sandra do all his texts. Awesome.

2:51:10SamanthaI just use Ben's phone. We just have one phone and just share it. I just don't see the point in having two. I don't need it.

2:51:19BubblemanYeah, it's true. In this day and age where everyone thinks they need one, I would be very hard set. I mean, it's weird. If I go somewhere and I don't have it and it's not working or whatnot, it's great. I love it. But I do feel that it would be hard for me to Do the business and touch the amount of people that I do without A, a phone, and B, a computer and an internet connection, which often the phone is.

2:51:44BubblemanWhen I don't have an internet connection, my phone just acts as a hotspot for my computer so I can just, I have internet anywhere I go, which is very good.

2:51:56Jen DoeI'll tell you what, the best thing I did was got my kids' phones. Like, if they need to be picked up somewhere, I just call them. It's great.

2:52:06BubblemanYeah, it's pretty nice. Yeah, it's pretty nice. It's kind of insane. I'm going through it with my own eldest child right now with the phone. It's great because we can call her and she can text us. I was just telling her the other day as I dropped her off into the city that if she ever had any worries whatsoever, she could literally text me 911 and I would literally come right to her location because we had this whole conversation about the Find My Phone app.

2:52:33BubblemanAnd she turned hers off. And so I said, well, why did you turn that off? And she's like, well, I don't want you to know where I am. And I'm like, well, I don't care where you are. Don't you understand? You can go wherever you want. I only want to know where you are if I need to know or if you lose your phone that we can find it.

2:52:48BubblemanSo she was kind of like, oh, okay, yeah, because I don't follow her around and tell her that, hey, I don't want you at this mall or I don't want you at that movie theater. She has complete freedom to do what she wants. I feel that we gave her enough skills in life that she can go out and make the right choices. Yeah, she's a young teenage girl who still has to be protected to a degree.

2:53:12Jen DoeAbsolutely. The best part about my children's phone is it automatically gets them to do what they're asked. So if their chores aren't done, I'm taking your phone. It's done. Ten minutes, it's done. It's great. There's a lot of benefits to the phone, but yeah, people are worried about What you were just saying, and the fact is, is I don't have to babysit my kids. They're at the age now where I've taught them, like, what's right and what's wrong, and I don't feel like having access to technology is really going to change the skills that I've given them, you know?

2:53:47Jen DoeSo it's all about teaching them, not restricting them.

2:53:50BubblemanSure. We limit them every time. We don't... You know, like, I have a kind of a, the rule that I like is that we, all of our bedrooms are in the upstairs floor of our house, and it's just like, you know what, the cell phones just get plugged in at bedtime, and you go upstairs, and they're not, they don't come up with you. So it's like, keep them downstairs, you don't need to be on them, and like, because kids would not be able to, like, could you just picture yourself as a teenager, like, didn't you even talk on the phone until like 3 in the morning, like, with your boyfriends and stuff?

2:54:20BubblemanLike, I talk to my wife, because we've been together like 25 or 6 years now together, and so when she was 15 and I was 16, we used to just talk to each other on the phone until the wee hours of the night. It would have been, I'm actually frightened to think what it would be if we had cell phones. What that same experience would be if we had cell phones with like Snapchat and like all these like pictures and cameras, like oh my god, as a parent, maybe we should change the topic.

2:54:48BubblemanI'm getting a little flustered.

2:54:50SpeakerYeah, I was going to say, use your phone to buy hash. What's that, Johnny B? I said I use my phone, so I can find out how to buy hash, like a hash. Ah, yes, and to take control... The first time I got a pager, I got a pager back in the days, it's just so... Well, of course, so I could sell. So we can sell hash, and I never got it for any other reason.

2:55:13SpeakerThat's why we got phones in the old days. Pagers are great. Pagers and cell phones, back in the early...

2:55:19BubblemanThe best one was when Fido came out, the new company, it was Fido, and they had a commercial where an orangutan went up at the counter and got a phone. And the whole premise behind it was like, you can be doing all sorts of illegal shit, we don't even need your ID. This was the beginning of the pay-as-you-go phone, which really, whoever came up, I would guarantee you that whoever raised that money Was like a criminally minded person because that was their market.

2:55:49BubblemanThe pay as you go phone, I don't even know how many I bought and threw away, like hundreds, hundreds. Just buy them and toss them, buy them and toss them. And that's one person. There were thousands of people doing it just in Vancouver.

2:56:03SpeakerRollways, they were $99. They were great. Buy them from 7-Eleven, use them for like a weekend and they're done.

2:56:09BubblemanAnd my friend Alex went to get one one time and the guy was like, I need to see your ID. And my buddy's like, no, you don't need to see my ID. And the guy's like, no, I need to see your, this is when they just changed the rule, but they still had the orangutan commercial on. So my buddy's like, you got a bloody orangutan getting one on the commercial and he doesn't have any fucking ID.

2:56:26BubblemanSo that's basically how he got his last phone without ID. Maybe they are back to no ID, but there was a short period where I guess the RCMP were cracking down. On the pay-as-you-go phone. Pay-as-you-go phones. That's, I mean, really, here's the thing about the police force. How hard is it to figure out something like that? I mean... Like, you're trying to catch people doing illegal shit, and you can't just figure out, like, oh, wow, pay-as-you-go phones would be a great way to fucking catch everyone.

2:56:57BubblemanLike, just like in Vancouver, when the big thing was to change money, because all the Americans were coming up with American cash, and then when you changed it, you got 1.4, 1.5 on the exchange rate, but you could only exchange a certain amount of money without ID. It was under $10,000. And so, actually, substantially less than that, even. Maybe it was, like, $2,000. It was some weird number.

2:57:20BubblemanMaybe it was 10. Yeah, you could do about, I think it was 10. And so you would go in and there were on one street on Robson, there was like eight of these money places. And you could just like hopscotch your way like, no, no, no, no, no. You got like a couple hundred grand US or whatever. You're just like, I'll go do like 10 Gs here and 10 Gs there.

2:57:39BubblemanAnd eventually the RCMP opened one. And man, that was no good for a lot of people. Holy shit. People just bringing their cash. For all their illicit shit, right to the fucking RCMP, on camera. Yeah, that's no good. Here's to less of that and more of a legal cannabis model. As fun as the old days were, cowboys and sort of like a, it was kind of like a bit of a gong show when cannabis was in its full glory.

2:58:16BubblemanIllegal stage in Canada when British Columbia was doing billions of dollars annually and sending so much cannabis down to the States. It was incredible to be up here at that time in the city and be in the scene. It was just a wild time, like literally, I can't even express how wild it was, just this sort of fucking like, Wild American dudes would just show up out of nowhere with different plates from different states and just like ready to buy a hundred pack of herb.

2:58:51BubblemanReady to go. The good old days, as some might call it.

2:59:03BubblemanOh, there's the little one. Our second little one in Hash Church today. Welcome to the congregation.

2:59:12SpeakerSay hi. Hi.

2:59:15BubblemanWhat's up? I like your dress.

2:59:18Jen DoeVery nice.

2:59:23SpeakerThanks.

2:59:32Jen DoeIs that your youngest?

2:59:35SpeakerYeah.

2:59:36Jen DoeYeah. That's my youngest. We've got older ones, but they're busy on their phones.

2:59:44BubblemanAh, yes. Ah, yes.

2:59:46SpeakerJordan's busy eating and Jordan is busy on her phone. Come here.

2:59:51Jen DoeOkay, what?

2:59:56SpeakerJordan is busy on her phone.

3:00:00Jen DoeJordan's busy on her phone. See, I've noticed the older one's great with her phone. The 13-year-old is horrible. She gets restrictions.

3:00:08SpeakerAnd I still Have my phone.

3:00:10Jen DoeYeah.

3:00:11SpeakerYeah. Okay. Go for it. It's an 115.

3:00:19Jen DoeShe doesn't have a real phone. She has an unactive phone. Ah, yes. Ah, yes. It's a 4S, she says.

3:00:27SpeakerNo, I just said it's a 4S.

3:00:33Jen DoeThat kid is more technology inclined than half of the adults that I know. Like, if I can't figure something out on an iPad, she will take it from me and be like, hold on, Mom. There you go. Amazing.

3:00:47BubblemanYeah, they're on it. Yeah, they're on it.

3:00:53BubblemanWell, almost at an end here for the day. Hash Church, I'm going to get myself up the mountain for a few runs and Get my cardiovascular going because, you know, cannabis has its medicinal properties, but I think that being active and getting your blood flowing is also very, very good. Of course, the inspiration and the fresh mountain air, I personally can't get enough of it, so I will bid you all a farewell for this episode 17 of Hash Church and thank Thank everyone for coming out.

3:01:28BubblemanThank Todd and Aaron who were in earlier and Rick and Ramon and Horatio and Jen and Mike and Johnny B, Samantha and Ben, Tony V as always. Thanks for coming, buddy. And thank Devin for once again letting me host a hash church here starting at 9 a.m. in the morning while all his roommates are still sleeping and I'm just like yelling and taking bong rips and I do appreciate it, brother.

3:01:56SpeakerAnytime.

3:01:57BubblemanGive thanks. Well, thanks for tuning in, everyone, and tune in next week where we'll have many of the regulars, but we're also going to have a visit from Chester, who's coming in with Cadence, the young girl with epilepsy, and she's got a very powerful story, so you'll definitely want to tune in for that. Have a great day, everyone. Please. Happy buffing.